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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2011, 02:38:15 PM »
I agree.  I've always thought a Mummy storyline would have been plausible in 1897 -- mostly because of the already established connections to Egypt.  Plus, the Edwardian era sort of lends itself to this type of storytelling.   I wonder if someday, the show could have returned to 1897 and played out a Mummy story??  Were enough of the main characters still alive?  Would a return to 1897 have even been possible?

One thing I've often thought about is how the audience seemed to accept "wilder" storylines when the show was in an alternate time, but often rejected them in the "present".  For instance, the Jekly/Hyde storyline worked (in my opinion) in parellel time, but wouldn't have worked in the real timeline.  A mummy story might have been accepted in 1987, but not the present.  Etc.   I even believe that both the Adam/Eve stories and Leviathans story would have worked well in a past timeline, even though they were rejected by the audience as they played-out in the present. 

We seemed better able to suspend our disbelief in alternate timelines, plus we had less investment in those characters.  In alternate timelines, nearly every character was expendable.  In the "present", we knew that none of the major characters would die, and that everything would eventually get back to normal.  That must have been very restrictive for the writers.    Does anyone else agree?

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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2011, 06:05:19 PM »
Hmmmm! That's an interesting theory! Even though I enjoy the Leviathan storyline a lot, it would have been cool to have them show up in an earlier timeline, but for some reason I don't think they would have worked in a parallel timeline, but that just might be because I find both those storylines painful to watch (with the exception of the Cyrus Longworth/John Yaeger story.)

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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2011, 05:02:32 AM »
Speaking of borrowing story lines. SUPERNATURAL this year has introduced The Old Ones as the big bad and guess what they call themselves......drumroll please......LEVIATHANS!   I don't know if Eric Kripke was fan but I am thinking there is a fan on the writing staff or they have found this information looking for story lines!    [bat7628]
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2011, 10:26:47 PM »
That's funny, TC! But H. P. Lovecraft invented the original Leviathans, so Supernatural may have gotten the idea from him rather than from DS.

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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2011, 11:55:31 PM »
Yes but HP didn't name them Leviathans...DS was the first to give them that name!  ;)  That is all I was trying to point out. Sorry if I wasn't clear!  HP referred to them as The Old Ones.
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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2011, 03:07:09 PM »
You're right, TC! And I should know better--my husband is a big HP fan.

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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2011, 06:33:52 PM »
One thing to keep in mind with respect to "what would have happened if Dark Shadows had continued" is that it appears JF did not want to continue playing Barnabas.  That is to say that he no longer wanted to have anything to do with playing a vampire.  That's why Bramwell came into being.  I'm not sure how well Dark Shadows would have been able to work without the potential threat of Barnabas being a vampire again.  In a way, they'd already done the "other vampire" thing with Roxanne. 

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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2011, 09:28:34 PM »
Sorry if I got a bit off topic...I just didn't want to start a new thread to tell everyone about that SPN!  As for DS continuing, I feel that if the show had continued it would have been wise of them to mix traditional soap elements with the supernatural elements.  The perfect example would be (for me) Laura The Phoenix storyline.  To me that storyline was a perfect balance of all the elements.   As much as I love the show after that period; I have to wonder how much better those latter story lines may have been if the writers who were writing at the start of DS and The Introduction of Barnabas had stayed with the show.  

As for Frid, I have to wonder how many more years he signed on for.  I am also glad that MB was able to clear it up a few years ago (for me) that Frid would have played Barnabas he just didn't want to play him as a vampire.  We got a taste of that in 1968 and considering they revamped him I guess it wasn't quite as popular with fans.    [skelleton_runs]  [candle_in_skull_2]
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2011, 11:05:57 PM »
It is stated in some 1969 fan magazines that DS was going to have a mummy story after 1897 ended but DC didn't like the idea and said it is because all a mummy does is drag its leg slowly.  That's the one supernatural plot he wouldn't use.

Jeremiah Collin's ghost looked something like a mummy though.

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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2011, 04:47:02 PM »
I am also glad that MB was able to clear it up a few years ago (for me) that Frid would have played Barnabas he just didn't want to play him as a vampire.  We got a taste of that in 1968 and considering they revamped him I guess it wasn't quite as popular with fans.
Assuming that Dan Curtis agreed not to make Barnabas a vampire ever again, and assuming DC didn't break his word, and also assuming that DC believed that defanged Barnabas was less popular with the fans...what would DC have done with Barnabas to yank up the ratings again?  Turned him into a werewolf?

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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2011, 10:52:31 PM »
Maybe a hybrid vamp/werewolf???
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Re: Dark Shadows 1970-71?
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2011, 01:35:01 PM »
Perhaps a storyline along the lines of 'The Enchanted Cottage'.  Quentin would live there without the benefit of the Dorian Grey portrait permitting him to look handsome upon demand. Jenny's obsessive/compulsive nature would be restrained but at times would get the better of her. Each would work hard to control their violent natures and they would deal with their problems and perhaps find true and lasting love. [hall_cry]
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