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Discuss - Ep #0874
« on: October 29, 2009, 11:44:19 PM »

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Re: Discuss - Ep #0874
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 05:51:07 AM »
One of my favorite DS lines of all time:  Pansy in response to Beth's query as to what is wrong with Quentin:

"What's wrong with him? He's in the wrong body!"   Talk about cutting to the chase!

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Re: Discuss - Ep #0874
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 06:22:39 PM »
Kitty remembers she came in 1795 and that she is Josette and has the memory of a dead woman.  She does remember about Angelique.  Kitty goes to Josette's room and Barnabas finds her.  This is a really good scene where she struggles with being Kitty or Josette and finally she accepts it and Barnabas and realizes he is human again.  It would seem that Kitty should stay herself and just add the memories of Josette, but the writers seem to make it an all or nothing proposition.  More like  a possession. 
Quentin/Petofi tries to send Pansy back to the grave and fails.  She manages to tell Beth who refuses to believe. but in the end comes to her senses. 
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0874
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 12:02:33 AM »
Did Charity/Pansy really think it was wise letting Beth know that Quentin really isn't Quentin? I've always wondered about that...I mean, Charity/Pansy did try to poison her once before. On the other hand, though, she was prepared to tell anybody and everybody that Quentin really isn't Quentin (apparently she has forgotten or forsaken Edward's warning what would happen if she did that). So maybe she wants help for the real Quentin, even if it's the help of a rival for dear Quentin's affections and the man who looks like the vampire she staked.

Quentofi was particularly nasty to Beth, seeing as she drew him back to 1969. He posed an interesting question though...did going to 1969, even for those brief moments, take away the power of his hand? I think it had to be it. My question is, if he had stayed in 1969 for longer, would he never have gotten it back?


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Re: Discuss - Ep #0874
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 01:28:50 AM »
Portrait, portrait, who has the portrait?

Playing Josette thing to death still.

Pansy says she can tell it’s Quentin inside Petofi’s body by seeing it in his eyes. How the heck can she through those dark glasses?

The extreme close up on Quentin’s face was a bit more than I wanted to see. Nice clean pores though.

Beth’s response to Pansy’s statement about Petofi taking over Quentin’s body is that Quentin has been doing some strange things lately. Excuse me, but when has Quentin not done strange things?

KLS going back and forth from Josette to Kitty was done quite nicely.

I must say that Jonathan Frid appears to be one helluva good kisser.
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0874
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 06:30:53 PM »
Pansy says she can tell it’s Quentin inside Petofi’s body by seeing it in his eyes. How the heck can she through those dark glasses?
Yes, I was wondering that myself.

It was nice to see Pansy hugging Quentin-in-Petofi.  She wasn't repulsed by the unsexy body.  She may be a homicidal fruitcake, but she's not all bad.

Petofi says he raised Pansy from the grave to inhabit Charity's body - or something like that.  How did that work?  Petofi wasn't yet at Collinwood when Pansy came and died.  Did he sense her spirit floating around?  It doesn't seem like the sort of thing Petofi would do.  But what do I really know of Petofi?

What must it like to be Kitty and to find yourself faced with the reality of Josette?  Barnabas says Kitty is the reincarnation of Josette, but, like alwaysdavid, I think it looks more like possession.  Kitty has acquired the memories of Josette, but there is no recognition.  It's "I am Josette, but I'm also Kitty," not "I am Kitty, and I am the continuation of Josette."

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Re: Discuss - Ep #0874
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 11:15:38 PM »
I don't know, maybe it's admirable that the writers were willing to throw themselves into concepts that most people found hard to grapple with at the time.    Reincarnation's sort of a hard idea to process.   
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0874
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 05:37:41 AM »
I don't see any difficulty in the idea of reincarnation.  The idea has been around for at least a couple of thousand years, and lots of people love to believe they're the reincarnation of some famous person.

So far, I think, the only person who has stated definitely that Kitty is the reincarnation of Josette is Barnabas, who wants to believe it.  I don't think there has been any detached determination that it's reincarnation, which may or may not have been due to a decision on the part of the writers.

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Re: Discuss - Ep #0874
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 06:19:51 AM »
The general public in the US had no conception of what reincarnation was supposed to be, though.   It's not exactly Judeo-Christian..... it would be easy to confuse it with possession, or whatever....
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