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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 25, 2013, 03:06:30 AM »
Quote from: Gothick on March 25, 2013, 02:19:18 AM
The fandom started out in the early 1980s with small get-togethers here and there... for instance in the Magique discotheque, ...

Given this was a daytime drama of the 1960s which has broken every conceivable record (including managing to stay in print on home video for over 20 years... do you know how many entertainment products can match that record? not many at all)--I think the fandom has had a great run.
They started with the Shadowcons in the '70s. They started out fairly small I believe. My guess is that they had fewer than 200 people. The first festival was in'83.

DS held the record number of novels based on a TV show. I don't have absolute proof of this but I can't think of any show that could beat it for many years. Star Trek had very few. It wasn't until the late 70s or 80s that it beat DS. If you count NOVELS only and not novelizations of expisodes, Trek finally beat DS in the 80s. I don't count to Star Trek Log books either; they are based on the animated series. Besides they were mostly novelizations of existing stories any way. The last few expanded a half hour script into a novel length book with mostly new material. Man From UNCLE was second from what I can tell with over 20 books.Again, I haven't checked every single series but as a person who's haunted used book stores, it was uncommon for a series to have 10 novels. I feel fairly certain that DS was unrivaled until the 80s.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 24, 2013, 04:55:12 PM »
Quote from: michael c on March 24, 2013, 03:56:21 PM
my remarks were directed at certain details of a fan convention. not at any individual(s)at this board...


so while your attempts at sarcasm and mockery are certainly admirable directing them at me isn't really necessary.

but enjoy your little event.

I could be wrong, Michael, but I didn't take Darren's remark that way. As I interpret it, he was lightening the mood. I have a very wry sense of humor, and that's the sort of thing I might say to someone to get a laugh. I often tell my students that I DO NOT ALLOW SMILING IN MY CLASS. Of course they start laughing, and I inform them that if the behavior continues, I'll write them up. i think Darren's remarks were intended in a similar vein, not really directed at you but at the entire board in general. Maybe I'm reading it totally wrong, but that's my take.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 24, 2013, 03:08:55 AM »
Quote from: michael c on March 23, 2013, 03:33:35 PM
my main complaint in the last couple years is that the gatherings have either been scaled back, changed in format or broken up into lots of little mini events with a fractured guest list. even the "official" event, the cruise, I believe only has 3 or 4 confirmed guests. the traditional fest had over a dozen most years.


I have limited time and money to spend on this enterprise. id rather have one cohesive, full scale event each year than a bunch of broken up ones with random guest lists.

I understand your concern and sympathize. It was mentioned by somene else that the festival events had been getting smaller on their own. I know that certain actors were feeling left out because they weren't invited to the festivals if they happened to be on the opposite coast that year. I have a feeling, and it's not backed up with facts, that the organizers are tired of doing them. That's supposition and could be totally off base.

Any way, I think you were only exercising your rights as a member of this board when you posted. You were respectful and asked reasonable questions. Now that I understand your perspective, I'm able to empathize with your position.  I hope that the festivals continue and eventually bounce back to become bigger events. Perhaps with this year's alternate events, that will happen.   

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 23, 2013, 02:42:50 PM »
I have no wish to "stir the pot" either, but I'm curious why there's so much opposition to this event. I'm sure if the Curtis estate has a legal gripe, they'll exercise it if and when they choose to do so. Most cultish franchises have events that are fan oriented, so I'd be surprised and dismayed if they objected, but I guess they have the right to do so if they choose. But I'm wondering why certain fans are so concerned.  Is itout of loyalty to the Dark Shadows Festival group?  If so, I would advise you not to worry. As long as there are DS fans, there'll be demand for a DS Festival. Is it out of concern that Dan Curtis Productions might not get precious royalties off of it?  If so, let me assure you, this show that was supposed to play once and then go into TV obvlivion has been sold over and over in syndication, VHS and DVD releases, a series in '91, and now a major motion picture. This event will only increase awareness of the shows not decrease it. I think the positive effect will be minimal though; only 300 peope maximum will be allowed to attend. How many tickets were sold to the DS movie?  I hope the Friends of 91 DS event happens and is successful. I'm not attending the Doctor Mabuse event.  It's on the wrong coast for me and conflicts with work. I hope that is extraordinarily successful too and that everyone there has a blast. I'm excited about the movie.  I also plan to attend as many DS events as I can in the coming years whether they are put on by the DS Festival group or someone else.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 23, 2013, 02:02:43 PM »
Oh, at the very first Manhattan Shadows, I met Ann Wilson. She was passing out flyers for the DS Fest which was happening the next weekend.  One of the planners asked if Joe Lilley knew she was doing that. The answer was yes and he was fine with it. His zine promoted the festival and the festival oriented zines also covered his event. There was a feeling of cooperation, not competition.  We were all DS fans sharing the love for our show. I welcome the idea of having new events to celebrate it, especially since so many fans are disappointed this year by the lack of a traditional festival this year. It sounds win-win to me.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 23, 2013, 01:57:47 PM »
I can't speak to formal letters of the law, but I've been going to conventions all of my adult life. Except for the ones run by Creation, most of them were spontaneious events generated by fans for fans. First a question, where did you hear that this event was for profit? I've not heard that. But aside from that, the original festivals were not run with the express approval of Dan Curtis Productions, neither were their predecessors, the Shadowcons. The early Star Trek cons were all done by people who love the show.

As for this even competing with the festivals, I don't see it that way. In the 80s I went to every event I could. If that meant going to a Manhattan Shadows, a DS Festival, a DS Fellowship Fair (Louisvile, KY), and even an LA DS fan club event (which I combined with a trip to Vegas), I'd go. I'll continue to go to Festivals AND Friends of DS, if they continue and things go well. The only factor for me will be timing. I have a family now and can't afford to fly out for everything. I try to make DS events work with my trips to Newport RI. This year I happen to be on the East Coast for this event. Next year, if I can work it, I'll go to a festival. One year I went to a Manhattan Shadows event one week and to the very first festival the next!  No competition.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 20, 2013, 09:41:09 PM »
I forgot to mention this in my earlier post; I was using the Ipad and typing is so awkward on that "virtual keypad".  I give credit to the planners of the event planners for cancelling last year. They put in the work and tried to get an event together; it didn't gel. They could have kept the money and had the event.  When people showed up, they could have said, "Gee, we're sorry, none of the guests could make it, but we have a great weekend planned for you". That  has actually happened to me. I flew to Louisville, KY to attend a DS event and none of the scheduled guests appeared. It was very disappointing. I'm not sure what happened. If I'm quoted about this please include this point; I am not making any judgments about the planners of the event. Disappointments will occur in life Perhaps it was beyond their control. Perhaps they were amateurs. I am not suggesting that they were dishonest.  They did their best to provide a fun weekend. Still, I'd have been happier if it had been cancelled. People who came from across town, or drove a few hours had a different and more pleasant experience.

My dealings with the Friends of the '91 DS group have been positive, and I am confident that this will come together and be a fun event.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 20, 2013, 08:26:38 PM »
Quote from: David-Elijah Nahmod on March 20, 2013, 07:57:08 PM
Do you have the group shot of all of us standing in front of the Pyramids? Marge, Mike C, Guy & I posted it on Facebook.

Yes, I believe I do. I'll check my account when I leave work. FB is blocked at school.  I watched some video Guy sent me from that trip the other day. I looked...young....no gray in the beard.  I did not know the meaning of the word "haircut" in those days. Of course I wasn't married either. I wish I'd been able to go to Romania, but I had family respsbilities then.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 20, 2013, 07:38:13 PM »
Quote from: David-Elijah Nahmod on March 20, 2013, 07:34:26 PM
what is so divisive about this cruise? people can either go or not go, no one is forced to do anything.
I was one of about 10 fans who went on Diana Millay's tour of Egypt in 1988--it was WONDERFUL, unforgettable, and hardly divisive.
That was a great time, David! I also went on the Egypt trip.  I'd go on the DS cruise if it weren't for the timing. I can't take that large a block of time off in October.  I teach school, so if it were happening in the summer, I'd be there.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 II / Re: July 2013 DS Cast Reunion at Lyndhurst
« on: March 20, 2013, 07:17:23 PM »
Unfortunately, last year's event did not happen.  I was advised early enough to revise my vacation plans, and my check was returned UNCASHED.  I thought it was very professionally handled.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: NODS Podcast: Collinsport Historical Society Night of DS special
« on: March 11, 2013, 05:19:18 AM »
Gothick your point about expectations is a valid one. I knew up front that Barnabas would not be in the movie. I also forgot to mention that Cobert's music helps make it DS. Think about it. The Trek movies all had new music. Lost in Space had another score.I would like to know if John Williams was asked. If they never bothered, I would consider that to be a major blunder, one of many in that movie. MOst if not all TV shows that crossover to the silver screen end up having all new music. DS is blessed to have the same composer in all of the versions done in the 20th Century. 

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: NODS Podcast: Collinsport Historical Society Night of DS special
« on: March 09, 2013, 11:30:49 PM »
I have to disagree with one thing that was said on the Podcast. There was a point made, and I'm paraphrasing here, perhaps incorrectly, that NODS was not truly a DS story. I can't speak for everyone of course, but for me, it always felt like true DS. I started reading the Ross novel, the comics and watched DS in the first syndication in 1976.  For me DS was Barnabas, Quentin, and the...whatever.  The fact that it had Quentin and Angelique and haunted goings on at Collinwood made it feel like DS to me. It's true I found it disoncerting that Quentin was not a werewolf or immortal as he was in the novels and the comics. The feeling was strengthened by the presence of Nancy Barrett, John Karlen, Grayson Hall, and Thayer David. I had no idea who Pennock, Storm, and Millay were, aside from images from old magazines. I never had a problem with it as a DS story.  Keep in mind also, NODS is a reworking of the PT 1970 story and as such is still fairly closely linked to the original show.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 I / Re: "Stranded" in Seaview Terrace on the Syfy channel
« on: March 09, 2013, 11:23:27 PM »
Several people who I know and respect, including my daughter have experienced strange things there. My daughter left some objects in locked room. The next day, they were moved. Another friend felt something in one of the rooms, a presence. Again, she's a level headed, intelligent person.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 I / Re: "Stranded" in Seaview Terrace on the Syfy channel
« on: March 09, 2013, 11:20:53 PM »
No, Salve no longer rents the property. Denise Carey, daughter of the owners lives there along with a few boarders.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '13 I / Re: "Stranded" in Seaview Terrace on the Syfy channel
« on: March 08, 2013, 03:20:05 PM »
The whole thing was ludicrous.  I'm sure most of you know this, but in case a few are not aware.
1. There is power in the house.
2. The house is not abandoned. I'm not sure if they actually stated it wasn't but that's the impression I received.  The residents had to move to the gatehouse for the duration.
3. All modern electronics were either not shown or moved. In the sunroom, above the fireplace, there's usually a high def TV. That was taken out. In the ballroom, there's a projection video system for watching movies. You can kind of glimpse it for a split second in one shot.
4. The "old time radio" Mrs. Bradley was broadcasting on is a CD player/radio combo. The implication I perceived was that it was some antique they'd stumbled upon. They'd actually moved from a table in the sunroom into the ballroom.

Many people have claimed to have seen and heard things in that house. These are people I respect and find credible. However, I have spent about 60 days in that house over tha past couple of years. I've never seen or heard anything out of the ordinary. I remaine open-minded but unconvinced.

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