Kojak (after apologizing): "May I?" He takes a taste and says, "I thought it was coffee. It's just my style."
He makes her laugh by telling her that he has a number of nieces and nephews that also "hike".
She's more forthcoming. When asked for names of John's friends:
"He never mentions them. He knows it annoys me."
"We stay to ourselves. It's safer that way. Believe me, I know..."
"John's father ran of with one of my friends. John was only 6. Does that prove anything?"
Kojak answers: "It says a lot, Mrs. Cambell. It says an awful lot."
In the next scene, he catches her son as he's about to permanently silence his victim.
Gothick, I just don't see the frumpiness.