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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Angelique's Personal Timeline
« on: February 08, 2007, 02:35:52 AM »
That was just a list, not chronological in her timeline, right?    You don't place 1840 after 1969?

If you're asking me, yes, it was chronological, and I do place 1840 last.  But PennyDreadful and Joeytrom proposed some intriguing theories (see the topic I quoted on p. 1) that did not.

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Was it still 1969 when Ang is last seen in the 'present'... I think it becomes 1970 during Leviathans.   ?

You're absolutely right.  She returned to the present in 1969, and Leviathans began in 1969, so I called that chapter in her history 1969, but as you said the storyline stretched into 1970.  And one of her 1795 adventures may have actually occurred in 1796.  Sorry.  I was thinking earlier that it might be why Brandon misunderstood the number of times Angelique revisited the 18th century.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Angelique's Personal Timeline
« on: February 08, 2007, 12:07:41 AM »
I'm hazy now on the 1796 that we saw between 1897 and Leviathans.   Was Ang killed?  Burned?

She wasn't, so that stopoff in 1796 following 1897 would be an extra trip that wasn't in the story.

I agree with Magnus about 1840 most likely being her final chapter (though I'd like to think she would be able to rise again, her powers restored, after Judah's death-- just as she regained the powers Nicholas had stripped from her once he had been destroyed, but I digress).

Here's a timeline of Angelique's deaths and near-deaths, lol:

1795-- Barnabas poisons her drink but the plan fails.  He shoots her, but he didn't do the "job well enough."  He strangles her until she is dead.

1968-- She is aged via Sam's changes to her portrait.  Trask sets fire to her, but it's temporary.  His rite of exorcism, however, is successful (though Nicholas brings her back).  Nicholas causes her hand to wither.  She's nearly strangled by Adam.  Nicky strips her of her powers, and she is again aged via the portrait.  Julia intends to kill her, but Angelique soon dies as an old hag in the Old House.  After she's vampirized, Joe threatens her with a letter opener.

1796-- She goes up in flames in the tower room.

1897-- Her doppelganger goes up in flames.
Aristede tries to torch her.

1969-- She merely disappears when Barnabas crosses into PT (meaning she is never again seen in the present).

1840-- Gerard/Judah removes her powers.  She is arrested as a witch (though later released).  We see her die as a human in Barnabas' arms.

Hmm, that's all I can think of.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Angelique's Personal Timeline
« on: February 07, 2007, 06:11:33 PM »
I'm confused about the evidence you mention wherein Angelique is the reincarnation of Miranda DuVal. What evidence was that?

Angelique's memories of her life as Miranda, yet references are made to her birth and childhood:
[spoiler]When Gerard called her Miranda DuVal, Valerie/Angelique recognized the name.  She recalled her life as a young servant, being in Judah's coven, fearing the spell he had over her and later testifying at his trial, his vow to get revenge on the Collinses and her, and his disposition.  And she is afraid he returned to make good on his threat.  However, Nicholas revealed that Angelique was born in 1774, and Natalie once described her childhood in Martinique.[/spoiler]

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Angelique's Personal Timeline
« on: February 07, 2007, 05:45:57 PM »
Quote from: MagnusTrask
Notes re Nelson...

Did you mean Brandon?

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I'm also used to the idea that Ang is immortal from being a witch.   Whatgood are powers if you don't live longer?  Maybe she's not.

It's safe to assume Ang becomes immortal.  [spoiler]When Ben torched her in the tower room ("Burn! Burn! Burn!") and Barnabas had her ashes scattered to the winds, it would have been curtains had she been a traditional witch.  Her immortality makes it even more bizarre that she would try to strike a deal with Barnabas to remain in the past with her (with Vicki's life as her bargaining chip); um, aren't they BOTH immortal?  Anyway, when we see her next in 1897 she is a muy powerful full-fledged bruja.[/spoiler]

Angelique is a work in progress.  Didn't Shakespeare write, "What a piece of work is Ang!"  ;)  ::)

I hope all went well for you this morning.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Angelique's Personal Timeline
« on: February 07, 2007, 08:48:50 AM »
Ok, let's recap here:

According to everything that's been posted since my last post, this should be the semi-correct (fully correct, unless I omit things which I tend to do sometimes) timeline for Angelique:

If I may, here's a slightly different timeline for Angelique:

1692 -- The young servant Miranda DuVal testifies against Judah Zachery.

1774 -- Angelique Bouchard is born in Martinique.  There is evidence to support that she is a reincarnation of Miranda.
(Angelique and Barnabas did not fall in love, btw.  He clearly fell for Josette, and it's debatable that what Angelique felt was really love.)

1795 -- The former servant to Josette becomes Angelique Bouchard Collins.  She has some powers, but doesn't always have control of them.
(Barnabas did not kill her by shooting her.  She survived the gunshot, only to be strangled to death by him in the coffin room.  Ben buried her body in the woods.)
Now in spirit form, she appears to Ben as a disembodied head and later testifies at Vicki's trial but is able to disappear at will.  For some reason that is never explained, her body disappears from the grave.
She is then banished to hell, but her spirit remains bound to her portrait.

1968 -- She arrives as Cassandra Blair, a graduate student at the University of Rockport, and marries Roger (after he takes off with her portrait, which Vicki brought to Collinwood).  She eventually loses her powers, then regains them after Nicholas' destruction.  She visits Elizabeth as Cassandra in a dream and again in the flesh, then is banished to 1795 (not 1897 as you wrote, at least not yet)-- at the point where her 1795 spirit was returned to hell-- as punishment for mistakes made in 1968.  She is burned by Ben and returned to Hell.  As time passes, her desire to return to Earth increases and she asks for Diabolos' forgiveness, and they strike a deal in which she can return with her powers intact if she can make a mortal man fall in love with her (but without the use of those powers).

1897 -- She is summoned through the fire in a black ritual.  Toward the end of the 1897 storyline, she disappears.

1969 -- She becomes a successful model, meets Sky, and takes his last name.

1840 -- Angelique claims to have wandered the Earth for 40 years, and obviously has no memory of the present, but we know she was in Hell during this time.  It's possible that Diabolos, displeased that she helped destroy the Leviathans, punished her once again by sending her back to 1795, but perhaps this time erased her memory (which would explain her rough treatment of Julia).  This is a cold Angelique (she uses the name Valerie, btw), though she has an amazing change of heart (and her powers improve) at the end of the 1840 storyline.

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Polls Archive / Re: A show of hands.
« on: February 07, 2007, 12:25:36 AM »
I guess the vote closes after a while.

That is determined by the pollster, and if a date is selected it can be found at the top of the poll; in this case TNickey2003 chose September 24.

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Games / Re: The Dark Shadows Alphabet Game
« on: February 07, 2007, 12:10:36 AM »
Z is for zoology-- a required pre-med course for the many docs on the show.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '07 I / Happy Birthday to Sunny_Collins!
« on: February 06, 2007, 07:45:11 PM »
Happy Birthday
 [sunny2]
Sunny Collins!

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Angelique's Personal Timeline
« on: February 06, 2007, 07:08:02 PM »
Quote from: MagnusTrask
If 1897 for Ang happened between 1968 and 1970, then why did she come to 1970 at all?   It wasn't for Barnabas, supposedly.    That's a really strange year to pick, to begin your new life in, 1970, and Maine, of all places.   I'm probably forgetting something.

You really aren't, because we're not even told how Angelique got to 1969.  She may have wandered the Earth since 1897 (but without Barnabas or Quentin) or she may have time traveled to that year.  We do know that she remembers being Cassandra, and that she has given up her powers and wants nothing to do with Barnabas.  But a clue to her arrival may be her portrait that's on display at Rumsonwood.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Angelique's Personal Timeline
« on: February 06, 2007, 06:56:09 PM »
No need to apologize, MagnusTrask.

Dom, I think this is what you missed:

Mrs. Dweeb Rumson in 1970

I respectfully submit a very minor adjustment-- that even though we first see Angelique Rumson in January 1970, she would have had to have gone from 1897 to some unknown point in 1969 to allow enough time for her to establish a successful modeling career, fall in love <ugh> with Sky, and play house with him for months.


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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Angelique's Personal Timeline
« on: February 06, 2007, 06:24:46 PM »
The previous timelines also skip a step between 1968 and 1897.

In 1968, she appeared to Liz again as Cassandra, then was delivered by her Master back to 1796 (as punishment for her activities in 1968; she told this to Barnabas), where she met up with Barnabas and begged him to stay in that time with her.  She was burned by Ben and spent 100 years in hell until she was summoned through the flames by Quentin and Evan in 1897-- the reason was, in the 1897 we see play out, to deal with Barnabas.  By now, she is one powerful witch.

This is an excellent topic on the subject.  It contains some marvelous theories for fitting 1840, and Miranda, into the equation:

Major flaw in the 1897 storyline

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Games / Re: The Dark Shadows Alphabet Game
« on: February 06, 2007, 04:19:32 PM »
T is for teleprompter.

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Games / Re: The Dark Shadows Alphabet Game
« on: February 06, 2007, 07:52:58 AM »
K is for Stephen King, one of the more famous DS fans.

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Games / Re: The Dark Shadows Alphabet Game
« on: February 06, 2007, 05:53:20 AM »
E is for exorcism-- what Trask thought he was doing in 1795.

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