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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0709
« on: January 15, 2009, 08:39:30 PM »Didn't Beth say she was seeing a gentleman? I don't think Dirk qualifies.
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0707
« on: January 15, 2009, 08:29:17 PM »But I like the idea of an event that we actually saw happening there being cited a century later as a family legend.
Yes, I thought that was cool too.
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Rules of DS Vampires
« on: January 15, 2009, 08:10:23 PM »
No problem, a search of the Robservations board, and...
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Silver does seem important as a repellent on DS-- if it's used in specific ways. Joshua made sure the cross affixed to the inside of Barn's coffin was silver. Were the crossed candlesticks used against Tom made of silver? (I don't recall fire pokers used on a vampire, but I could be forgetting something.)
I don't doubt the other methods are painful, but was wondering if a silver bullet or arrow through the heart might hurt less. Yeah, I'm being considerate of the vampire's pain threshold.![[cheesyg]](http://www.dsboards.com/SMF/Smileys/classic/cheesyg.gif "Cheesy(Green)")
Burke and Sam and completely demoralized when Sheriff Patterson tells them there was no sign of Maggie at all. All they saw at the cemetery was a big, ugly dog (Barnabas?)
Methinks the bit with Roxanne was probably some kind of personal thing, rather than to do with anything needed.Thanks!!
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I don't think any vampire was ever dispatched with a silver bullet on DS, come to think of it. So can we be absolutely certain such worked?Barnabas provided Joshua with a gun and silver bullets so his father could destroy him, so he must've been certain it would work.
Silver does seem important as a repellent on DS-- if it's used in specific ways. Joshua made sure the cross affixed to the inside of Barn's coffin was silver. Were the crossed candlesticks used against Tom made of silver? (I don't recall fire pokers used on a vampire, but I could be forgetting something.)
I don't doubt the other methods are painful, but was wondering if a silver bullet or arrow through the heart might hurt less. Yeah, I'm being considerate of the vampire's pain threshold.
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0706
« on: January 15, 2009, 07:17:12 PM »They should have had a sealed envelope in their lawyers office just in case.
Along with this note from the Collins family: If you are reading this before you're supposed to, you are definitely our kind of lawyer.
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0704
« on: January 15, 2009, 07:08:09 PM »
Are we all pretending that we don't notice Petofi's box on the drawing room fireplace? ![[snow_wink]](http://www.dsboards.com/SMF/Smileys/classic/snow_wink.gif "Snowman Winking")
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0707
« on: January 15, 2009, 07:04:24 PM »
If I were Edward, I'd be having the mausoleum torn apart. Not that they'd find anything, but it's his only clue to the secret.
What I love about this ep is Sandor's line to Carl that there must be gypsy blood somewhere in the Collins line since "no one in the family trusts anyone else!"
A legend of the tower room indeed. Technically, Naomi only collapsed there, right? I wonder if that tidbit was inspired by the real life legend of the Seaview/Carey Mansion tower room. Something about a pregnant nun who hanged herself in there, so they boarded it up for years. Or something. I seriously doubt the story's veracity (and for sure the room now has students sleeping in it), though I don't doubt that the mansion is haunted.
Forgive me, Lydia, for referring again to a storyline that hasn't happened yet, but Quentin's story about the tower room being empty for 100 years is just wrong. In 1840 it was a happenin' place, and it got used even in the original timeline. But maybe the Q-man was just trying to unsettle Rachel so he could hit on her some more.
Anyway... Josette's portrait is back!
What I love about this ep is Sandor's line to Carl that there must be gypsy blood somewhere in the Collins line since "no one in the family trusts anyone else!"
A legend of the tower room indeed. Technically, Naomi only collapsed there, right? I wonder if that tidbit was inspired by the real life legend of the Seaview/Carey Mansion tower room. Something about a pregnant nun who hanged herself in there, so they boarded it up for years. Or something. I seriously doubt the story's veracity (and for sure the room now has students sleeping in it), though I don't doubt that the mansion is haunted.
Forgive me, Lydia, for referring again to a storyline that hasn't happened yet, but Quentin's story about the tower room being empty for 100 years is just wrong. In 1840 it was a happenin' place, and it got used even in the original timeline. But maybe the Q-man was just trying to unsettle Rachel so he could hit on her some more.
Anyway... Josette's portrait is back!
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Calendar Events / Announcements '15 II / Re: Dark Shadows: New Audio Dramas from Big Finish
« on: January 15, 2009, 04:43:40 PM »also one quick question on the downloads for the DS audio plays which i found on another site someone had uploaded there. is it free to join? & do you have to buy something to download it? or is it free to join & free to download?
& as for which one is my favorite so far? the x-mas one. that's so far my favorite one. i can't wait until i listen to the next one. which i plan on doing within the next day or so.
B.Collins, you need to post your questions and comments about the audio plays in one of the Big Finish audio plays topics.
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0706
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:15:36 PM »
If ever a family needed a backup plan for insuring that an important family secret gets passed to subsequent generations, this one did. Particularly with its history of sudden and mysterious deaths.
I've witnessed incidents of people seeing ghosts while on their own deathbed. It's interesting that the writers had Daniel coming for Edith instead of Gabriel.
Well, Edith didn't call Daniel "father" (she was clear that he was Gabriel's, however) so when she talked about her mother's warning to her future husband concerning her inability to keep secrets, she probably was talking about her own mother. And how would her mother-in-law know this about her before the wedding anyway? I'm thinking there's more evidence that the secret wasn't passed by Harriet. In 1840 we learn [spoiler]that Daniel not only outlived Harriet by 10 years, but he hated, mistrusted and even murdered her,[/spoiler] so it seems unlikely that he would have told the family secret to her instead of his oldest son.
I've witnessed incidents of people seeing ghosts while on their own deathbed. It's interesting that the writers had Daniel coming for Edith instead of Gabriel.
Edith's mentioning of "mother" was about her mother or mother-in-law? Could she have been remembering when Gabriel told her the "secret" that his mother warned him (when she informed him of the "secret"), not to do so as she couldn't keep secrets?
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So, the secret went from Joshua-Daniel-Harriet-Gabriel-Edith.
Well, Edith didn't call Daniel "father" (she was clear that he was Gabriel's, however) so when she talked about her mother's warning to her future husband concerning her inability to keep secrets, she probably was talking about her own mother. And how would her mother-in-law know this about her before the wedding anyway? I'm thinking there's more evidence that the secret wasn't passed by Harriet. In 1840 we learn [spoiler]that Daniel not only outlived Harriet by 10 years, but he hated, mistrusted and even murdered her,[/spoiler] so it seems unlikely that he would have told the family secret to her instead of his oldest son.
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Rules of DS Vampires
« on: January 14, 2009, 09:36:10 PM »
Marvelous list. Another of Barnabas' powers was that he could also turn into a big dog, or at least it was strongly implied that he once did.
I do have a question or two regarding:
Nice! After [spoiler]Roxanne was destroyed, Randall placed a cross on the spot where she had stood while (literally) disintegrating.[/spoiler] Do you know if this had any significance in terms of preventing her return, or was it just a neat flourish?
I'm guessing that the wooden stake through the heart includes the use of a bow and wood arrow. Do you suppose that using the bow or silver bullets are any more merciful than using sunlight or a stake and hammer, which on DS were sometimes shown to cause excruciating pain for the vampire?
I do have a question or two regarding:
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11. Vampires can be killed in only three known ways: A wooden stake through the heart (although this can be reversed by simply removing the stake), Silver bullets through the heart, and Direct exposure to sunlight. Whether a vampire can burn, be decapitated, drown, starve, or some other method of destruction is unknown.
Nice! After [spoiler]Roxanne was destroyed, Randall placed a cross on the spot where she had stood while (literally) disintegrating.[/spoiler] Do you know if this had any significance in terms of preventing her return, or was it just a neat flourish?
I'm guessing that the wooden stake through the heart includes the use of a bow and wood arrow. Do you suppose that using the bow or silver bullets are any more merciful than using sunlight or a stake and hammer, which on DS were sometimes shown to cause excruciating pain for the vampire?
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Julia is singing my song
« on: January 14, 2009, 06:45:59 PM »
Hee! At first glance, I thought it was Harry Johnson, which gave a whole new meaning to Julia's expression...
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Julia is singing my song
« on: January 14, 2009, 05:50:55 PM »perhaps the good doctor's sentence should be finished: "If I could only think, I might remember where I put the prophylactics, Chris! Chris! Oh, Chris!"
Heh, heh!
I think that's Willie, which would mean they're freaking out because Barnabas was fashionably late in returning from 1796.
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0704
« on: January 14, 2009, 12:21:35 AM »
Ha, you're probably right about Liz!
Sheriff Patterson guessed that that since it was Roger's great uncle, it must've been a portrait of Benjamin (which was weird), and I think Roger just looked annoyed. So he didn't confirm or deny that it was his name.
The portraits in the drawing room during 1897 are, left to right, Jeremiah, the one we nicknamed Leonardo, Isaac, Theodore and Benjamin-- who looks nothing like the guy in the foyer.
Sheriff Patterson guessed that that since it was Roger's great uncle, it must've been a portrait of Benjamin (which was weird), and I think Roger just looked annoyed. So he didn't confirm or deny that it was his name.
The portraits in the drawing room during 1897 are, left to right, Jeremiah, the one we nicknamed Leonardo, Isaac, Theodore and Benjamin-- who looks nothing like the guy in the foyer.
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0705
« on: January 13, 2009, 09:19:00 PM »
Now it's the Old House that's shown backwards in the voiceover.
I so want Judith's brooch.
Not to mention dead. Yikes!
You'd need a helmet to protect yourself from the insults flying about Collinwood, such as--
Judith to Quentin: "I shouldn't advise you to break things you can't pay for."
And (about locking the door to Edith's room): "You'll probably go outside and try to scale the wall."
Barnabas to Quentin (about why he hadn't mentioned his gift to Edith before) "I was too busy defending my good name, thanks to you."
Judith while looking at Quentin (about letting Barnabas visit Edith): "The sight of a gentleman might do her some good."
Quentin to Edward (referring to Rachel): "Your new wife? No, no, too pretty."
Edward (after Quentin asked Rachel if she's married): "Would it make any difference to you if she were?"
I so want Judith's brooch.
as a vampire, you'd have to be a monster ALL the time.
Not to mention dead. Yikes!
You'd need a helmet to protect yourself from the insults flying about Collinwood, such as--
Judith to Quentin: "I shouldn't advise you to break things you can't pay for."
And (about locking the door to Edith's room): "You'll probably go outside and try to scale the wall."
Barnabas to Quentin (about why he hadn't mentioned his gift to Edith before) "I was too busy defending my good name, thanks to you."
Judith while looking at Quentin (about letting Barnabas visit Edith): "The sight of a gentleman might do her some good."
Quentin to Edward (referring to Rachel): "Your new wife? No, no, too pretty."
Edward (after Quentin asked Rachel if she's married): "Would it make any difference to you if she were?"
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0704
« on: January 13, 2009, 06:42:46 PM »
While on the subject of Collins portraits (sometimes I can't help myself ![[rleyeg]](http://www.dsboards.com/SMF/Smileys/classic/rleyeg.gif "Roll Eyes(Green)")
), there's a large one in the foyer that Roger tells the Sheriff in an early ep is his great uncle. It's the one that Vicki says "boo" to in a very early ep, and in 1897 it's hanging in the same spot between the drawing room doors and the door under the stairs. Hmm, but didn't making him Roger's great uncle mean that not only should he not be hanging anywhere in 1897, but that he should also be another sibling to Judith, Edward, et al? ![[snow_huh]](http://www.dsboards.com/SMF/Smileys/classic/snow_huh.gif "Snowman Huh")
), there's a large one in the foyer that Roger tells the Sheriff in an early ep is his great uncle. It's the one that Vicki says "boo" to in a very early ep, and in 1897 it's hanging in the same spot between the drawing room doors and the door under the stairs. Hmm, but didn't making him Roger's great uncle mean that not only should he not be hanging anywhere in 1897, but that he should also be another sibling to Judith, Edward, et al?
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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0704
« on: January 13, 2009, 06:29:13 PM »
I think Sophie Baker/Barnes is super annoying.
Do you mean the portrait that looks a heck of a lot like Edmonds' Joshua in profile? The one I'm thinking of is small compared to the others, is in an ornate frame, and moves around the house during the series-- in 1966 it's at the far right of the drawing room (by the booze), later it's by the drawing room window, and at some point it can also be seen by the doors to the house ... though I don't think we see it in 1897. Fans have often referred to it as Joshua's portrait due to the resemblance, but I haven't been able to pinpoint the scene where you've said (at another time) that Barnabas says it's Joshua. And it was not part of Liz's list as she swept around the room pointing at her ancestors ("Isaac, Jeremiah, Theodore, Benjamin"). Interestingly, we can actually pinpoint who originally sat for the portrait I described thanks to Selby D. Pearson and Louis Edmonds.
Isaac is above the fireplace in 1897.
In the present time, Joshua's portrait is in the Drawing Room.
Do you mean the portrait that looks a heck of a lot like Edmonds' Joshua in profile? The one I'm thinking of is small compared to the others, is in an ornate frame, and moves around the house during the series-- in 1966 it's at the far right of the drawing room (by the booze), later it's by the drawing room window, and at some point it can also be seen by the doors to the house ... though I don't think we see it in 1897. Fans have often referred to it as Joshua's portrait due to the resemblance, but I haven't been able to pinpoint the scene where you've said (at another time) that Barnabas says it's Joshua. And it was not part of Liz's list as she swept around the room pointing at her ancestors ("Isaac, Jeremiah, Theodore, Benjamin"). Interestingly, we can actually pinpoint who originally sat for the portrait I described thanks to Selby D. Pearson and Louis Edmonds.
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Jeremiah's is still over the fireplace in 1897 right? Interesting that though he went from the former Collins family direct ancestor and builder of Collinwood to a second cousin of new direct ancestor Daniel Collins (and died childless), his portrait still hangs in the same place in the present time.
Isaac is above the fireplace in 1897.
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