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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: August 09, 2012, 12:03:01 AM »
Well, yes, the werewolf bit--and the projectile vomit--were totally unnecessary, at odds with the general tone, and pulled me out of the movie.

well put. the "magtoria" compromise left me disengaged out of the gate, but gradually i got into the film's groove and it started to grow on me...

then the carolyn "reveal", and the film's cacophonous, out of left field climax, again pulled me out of the story and forever left a sour taste in my mouth.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: August 08, 2012, 08:15:30 PM »
nice theories but i'll not make excuses for bad/sloppy writing...

unlike the old on-the-fly nature of the daily show the film had five years to work out the kinks. at any point in the production someone should have looked at this situation and realized that it made no sense.


it was a colossal gaffe and, like turning carolyn into a werewolf in the movies last five minutes, pretty unforgivable.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 08, 2012, 07:58:00 PM »
thanks for the clarification lydia...


i would find it surprising if KLS had that to say. on the contrary since she enjoys inserting herself into the center of all things DS i'll bet she was pleased as punch that "maggie" ended up having a part in the film.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 07, 2012, 04:18:30 PM »
with all due respect i think that you were so pleased that maggie was unexpectedly in the film you're willing to overlook anything. like the fact that she changed her name on the way to a job interview she was already expected for. [ghost_rolleyes]

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 07, 2012, 03:05:34 AM »
this is second hand but i heard on FB that during the q&a with KLS she was asked what she thought of the maggie/vicki "merger" in the film...

supposedly she replied that it was "ridiculous" and "made no sense". i'll second that. it was my least favorite part of the film.


can anyone here confirm her remarks?

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 06, 2012, 02:51:05 AM »
AND since the depp film has largely left theaters and will very soon be out on DVD you'd think they might have actually, you know, showed it at some point in the event's programming.


or were they running HODS for the hundredth time???

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 06, 2012, 02:34:53 AM »
having learned during this filmaking process, although not at this fine board, how many emotionally unstable and even disturbed people there are in this fanbase i guess maybe they wanted to keep people pacified and not "upset" anyone.  [ghost_rolleyes]

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 05, 2012, 07:30:55 PM »
interesting. odd but interesting. i'm stunned pierson wasn't plugging the dvd release like nobody's business.


i suppose i shouldn't be that surprised given that the 1991 series is a virtual nonentity within the fest community. it would appear that the whole enterprise concerns itself almost exclusively with the OS.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 05, 2012, 06:42:10 PM »
i guess there are different ways of looking at things but i can't consider a 100+ million dollar film, with an a-list cast, that's just been released around the world and seen by millions of people and made many, many millions of dollars a "small part" of dark shadows. at all.


it strikes me as HUGE. which is why it's odd it seems to have gotten so little play at the fest.


i mean what's "bigger" on the DS landscape at the moment? some crappy, juvenile comics? another of lara's awful books? weird.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 05, 2012, 05:10:03 PM »
other than parker and smyth's brief remarks what was the attitudes about the film at this year's fest anyways???


it's sounding like it barely came up...which is remarkable given that a 100+ million dollar film based on this source material just came out two months ago. i mean scott and parker were IN the darn thing and since it's been released to the public they're no longer bound by confidentiality agreements. didn't they have anything interesting to say? what about pierson?

was there any merchandising other than scott's book? or was the whole thing the elephant in the room? there certainly are many at this board who enjoyed the film, were fans of it in abundance?

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yes the 1991 series greatly shortchanged most of the collins family to focus almost entirely on the barnabas storyline. characters like liz, roger and david were more part of an important "establishing presence", like collinwood itself, than fully realized characters. a situation largely repeated with the recent film.


i would rather have seen the "present time" characters and situations fleshed out much more than the hasty and ill-conceived 6-episode 1790 sequence.


so with characters like liz and roger sidelined, and references to the cannery and other family businesses virtually nonexistant(was the cannery ever even mentioned?), burke's other purpose, aside from his romance with victoria, would have made absolutely no sense...

but i agree he was an important OS character that's been notable by his absence in subsequent retellings. i'd have liked an appearance somewhere but it never seemed to fit into the context of the story the producers at hand were trying to tell.

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on the OS burke was already a well established character when barnabas was introduced and a romance between him and vicki was being setup since the series' premier. so when barnabas set his sights on vicki a rivalry was instantly established. and at this point angelique had not yet been introduced and vicki was not really the "present day" josette variation per se in the same way she is in other variations on the story.

however in the 1991 series with vicki the josette incarnation they decided to launch into the barnabas/vicki romance right out of the gate. and with angelique introduced almost immediately that became the romantic triangle. had the series progressed to a second season it looked like a peter bradford storyline was being set up so in terms of a romantic rivalry in season two again burke would have been superfluous.

again with the film with vicki established as the "josette figure" from the outset and angelique already onboard the josette-barnabas-angelique triangle was the conflict...even though this part of the story was, for whatever reason, much more underplayed than in previous tellings.

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i just viewed the "trailer" on youtube and it was hilarious. i'd like to see more.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 02, 2012, 01:49:14 AM »
i guess roger davis wasn't there selling pictures of himself with his ex-wife jaclyn smith like he was last year...


always in the height of good taste. [ghost_rolleyes]

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 02, 2012, 01:25:26 AM »
one thing that struck me at last year's fest was how approachable...and readily available...most of the DS stars were.


when i arrived friday evening(granted, probably not the most populated time)david selby...david selby...his wife and an assistant were sitting alone at a table selling david's books. i got his autograph instantly. for a large part of the weekend it was a similar story with most of the actors. there were some peak times but david, kathryn, marie, christopher pennock, and most of others were pretty accessible. only lara parker was inundated for most of the time.

speaking of lara and kathryn what were their new offerings this year? or the new offerings in general? anything worth hunting down?