i vowed not to post in this topic again however...

unfortunately for frid the very nature of the barnabas collins character...a man with a "secret"...readily lends itself to a gay subtext whether it's intentionally there or not. an ascot wearing man with a "secret" who hung out with joan bennett and grayson hall.


i've heard from countless gay men who said that as adolescents they identified with the character on that level.

and when the actor who portrayed that character was a, i believe it was once called "confirmed bachelor", it simply opens itself up to that interpretation.

it is what it is kids...and scolding everyone who speculates on the subject isn't going to change it.

also i believe this balcony/overlook is where vicki witnessed josette's ghost falling from the chandelier.

oh dear...


sounds like more scooby-doo style adventures for the bobble head duo.

think i'll skip it. 

also isn't moretz slightly too young for the part?


i thought the character was supposed to be a high school senior(17-18 years old). hence all the drama at the prom.

digressing back to the topic of DS "purists"...

what's funny is that over on FB where alot of the more heated conversations over the film initially took place, and even a few silly deppshadows "hate groups" popped up, tons of people who post in the various forums there are now using images from the film as their avatars. every day people pop up in my "people you make know" box with a picture of johnny or eva or michelle...

true they're probably not the same people who objected to the film in the first place but it's definitely part of our "vocabulary" so to speak.

to me it's definitely more evocative, even with all the storyline changes, to the OS than the 1991 series in it's tone and sensibility. it's trippiness and strangeness recall that more than the florid and over-earnest soap-opera-ish-ness of the later series.

josette and roxanne were angelique's romantic rivals...

regardless of what one actually thinks of josette as a flesh and blood character she was a "presence" of tremendous importance throughout the series' run. remember "josette lafrenier" appeared soon after the show premiered. she was prominently featured enough in series mythology that whatever the viewer actually thought of her they, and through them angelique, had to recognized her significance.

hence they could get a feeling for angelique's tremendous jealousy around her. it translated to the viewer.

not so with roxanne. the writers just sort of threw it at the audience and expected it to take. it didn't.


so again, watching angelique go through the motions of trying to work herself into a foam over her just goes limp.

perhaps "wimpy" was not the best choice of words...


but my point was really that during most of the other time periods/storylines angelique was going up against a character who's importance in series lore was stratospheric. so while josette might not have actually posed a direct threat to ang she was still a force to be reckoned with.

roxanne was, in my opinion, the most poorly developed regular character on the series. it wasn't donna wandrey's fault. by the time she joined the program it was changing time periods every three months so there was never the time for any character development. yet in each new time period they just plunked her down and expected the viewer to somehow find her important and engaging and she just wasn't.

so during 1840 watching angelique try and work herself into a jealous rage over this poorly written and developed character just falls completely flat. it's a dud.