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Current Talk '12 II / are the big finish dramas canon?
« on: September 19, 2012, 02:38:09 AM »
Now to write an audio drama for Big Finish to establish this as canon.

are there those who consider the 'big finish' productions to be "canon"? [ghost_huh]

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 19, 2012, 01:13:38 AM »
gosh i can't believe it's been five years since i started watching this storyline and then put it down.


i strange it took me so long to pick it up again. i guess i mustn't have been enjoying it much then either.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 17, 2012, 06:46:37 PM »
true,

each storyline gives the character a slightly different setup. in one he runs a school and in one he runs a funeral parlour.

but essentially lacey gives the same broad performance. the seasoned viewer knows exactly what to expect when he first walks onto the set in the new time period. they always represents the same thing. i swear if he uses this expression "in league with the DEVIL!" one more time i'll scream.

incidentally why is a funeral parlour director acting as the prosecuting attorney in a court of law?

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 17, 2012, 03:56:57 PM »
even at it's worst it's still DS which in and of itself has moments of great pleasure.


and obviously watching a series about vampires, witches and time travel demands a major suspension of disbelief on the part of the viewer. still for me the whole thing works better when the foundation of the storyline is based in some sort of reality. and a witchcraft trial in the 1840's is NOT based in reality. while i don't doubt that some of the yokels in a dumpwater town like collinsport still believed in witches in 1840 to base an entire plot on the legal proceedings around it is ludicrous. and that' what the plot in question is based upon. not what the hoi pilloi are thinking but a trial in a court of law.

and i'm sorry but the reverend trask character is a clown. a bozo. a joke. why this guy gets taken seriously in every storyline he shows up in a complete mystery. even jerry lacey himself says in interviews that it was "mustache twirling at it's best". the character is too broad and too campy. it's like watching a cartoon. and nothing ever differentiates the "trask" character no matter what the time period. it's played like it's the same person. sort of like quentin. trask is a "brand" more than a character. to the viewer he's meant to represent the same thing every time. you don't even have to question it. it's boring.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Erica Fitz
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:52:08 AM »
i'd be willing to bet ms. woronko's fest appearance was a one time deal...


those "nurse pritchet" t-shirts must be in a goodwill bin somewhere now. [ghost_rolleyes]

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 17, 2012, 01:08:00 AM »
yes i was surprised to see that barnabas, julia and angelique...really the only three characters providing the viewer with any story continuity...disappear for many episodes at a time.

they're almost supporting players. the "stars" are the weird 1840 characters.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 17, 2012, 12:55:40 AM »
dear jesus!!!


i just watched the episode where quentin is formally charged with WITCHCRAFT and threatened with BEHEADING.

and who's the judge responsible for this outlandish charge but dr. lang himself ADDISON POWELL! back in action after a two year rest cure. and if he doesn't amp up the camp value of these proceedings no one can!

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 17, 2012, 12:02:17 AM »
true.

pretty much everyone is a creep. it makes for some fun exchanges, but it's emotionally disengaging. and really, after five years it's almost impossible to muster any enthusiasm for yet another round of temporary, disposable characters.


and it's so all over the place it's hard to remember, or care about, why barnabas and julia are even there. even they don't seem to know.

i've said this before but frid, hall and bennett seem particularly exhausted. the five-day-a-week grind seems to have finally worn them out.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:53:34 PM »
i liked leviathans too heather. and i loved 1970 parallel-time. flaws and all. [ghost_wink]


i just can't take this. [ghost_rolleyes]



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Current Talk '12 II / deppshadows "watching project"
« on: September 16, 2012, 07:23:52 PM »
apologies if this thought has already been posted but how about this...


on october 2nd the DVD of the depp/burton DS film will be released. obviously we will not all pick it up at the same time. but how about picking a night in late october, near halloween, when we all sit down and view it at the same time and then post out thoughts like in the "watching project".

the mods will pick the time and set the rules but it could be fun, right?

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 16, 2012, 04:19:23 PM »
yes and as roxanne was now barnabas' SYT of choice it would have been interesting to have KLS play a character with no association with josette.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:36:48 AM »
another little observation about kate jackson...


she has a natural, understated acting style that's slightly at odds with the high drama, high camp "DS style" of most of her costars. she's almost evocative of first year players like alexandra or joel crothers who behaved like normal people and not some over the top character.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:20:35 AM »
yes virginia vestoff's viperous samantha is one of the period's few high points. and any scene with ang at her most deranged is always worth a look.

flora's not bad but lacks the haughtiness that makes a joan bennett characterization so memorable. besides she's a pretty minor character with limited screentime. old timers like joan and louis are clearly no longer the series priorities as the late, younger castmembers dominate the proceedings.

as far as leticia goes she's just warmed over pansey faye for no apparent reason other than that pansey must a have been a popular character at the time. personally i found pansey fun for about five minutes in 1897 and then immensely grating ever after so having a carbon copy of her around for yet another storyline isn't helping.


gothick obviously i'm not through yet but you make it sound as though some of the 1970 mysteries reappear...because for the life of me i cannot see what any of this has to do with tad and carrie, who barely show up at all, the playroom, the java queen or any of the other plot points of the story setup.


i've been trying to figure out what else is missing and i think i know what it is...KLS! i'm not her biggest fan but she certainly lends her distinctively DS presence to all of the other time period and storylines and here her absence feels somehow like a void. while the "josette" element was certainly played out by this point without a KLS character swanning about something feels off.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 16, 2012, 03:34:14 AM »
yes i definitely "spotted the fin" with the 1968 adam stuff but the show redeemed itself...


this is definitely the "jump the shark" moment. this thing is done.


if i wasn't determined to watch this thing from start to finish i'd skip it.

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Current Talk '12 II / the witchcraft nonsense in 1840
« on: September 16, 2012, 01:48:47 AM »
i'm still desperately slogging through the 1840 episodes...


however once the "witchcraft" nonsense takes on steam i almost have to just walk away. i mean am i missing something here? why on earth are people in the middle of the nineteenth century, the dawn of the modern age, running around babbling about witchcraft??? why is it being taken seriously? by anyone?

by this point in the run did the writers just assume that those "kids that ran home from school" wouldn't know enough about history to understand that this concept was two hundred years out of date? or because it's DS are we just supposed to throw common sense out the window?

or was it just an excuse for jerry lacey to revive his unbearably obnoxious character from 1795?


incidentally who the heck is david selby supposed to be playing here? he looks and acts and talks just like "real time" quentin right down to the glued on sideburns. i'm surprised they didn't try and give him that stupid gramophone just for the sake of brand continuity. is the viewer just supposed to associate him with "real" quentin and thus give a darn what happens to him? i mean he's supposed to be a different character, right?

this storyline kills me. [ghost_rolleyes]