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Current Talk '14 II / Re: Today in Soap Opera History (October 31)
« on: November 01, 2014, 06:39:50 PM »
I've heard the Joan Crawford "rumor" circulating around the fanbase for years too...


seems like the DS cast jumped around from soap to soap a lot in the late 1960s and early 1970s in general. there was a lot of crossover amongst the New York based soap community at the time.

'the secret storm' in particular was where several castmembers ended up at one point or another.

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Current Talk '14 II / Re: Diana Millay/Angelique
« on: November 01, 2014, 02:13:32 PM »
the black robe thing with the white lace collar?

laura must have left it in a closet at the cottage and ang just picked it up.

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Current Talk '14 II / Re: Diana Millay/Angelique
« on: November 01, 2014, 11:37:22 AM »
and Diana told me herself at a fest Curtis asked her to come back in 1969. she didn't mention late 67.

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Current Talk '14 II / Re: Diana Millay/Angelique
« on: November 01, 2014, 11:34:37 AM »
I've certainly never heard that suggested in all my years in the fandom. I feel like it would have come up at a fest or in one of the books which go into pretty specific detail about who was up for which part when...

perhaps that's one of the things that makes Diana/Laura an interesting figure in the whole thing. rather than just being another member of the "stock" company Millay was indelibly "the Phoenix". not "1795 streetwalker" or "1840 innkeeper" but just Laura Collins. that's her role (even though each subsequent appearance threw previously established continuity out of whack)

and lore has it Curtis was planning on bringing her back AS LAURA before the show's cancellation in 1971.

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perhaps some actors had some sort of informal agreement with Curtis that allowed them to come and go as they wished. Karlen certainly seemed to have had such and arrangement...


but really the only way to get "assurances" of their future availability is to get them under long or short term contract. off-contract "day players" are free to come and go as they please and take whatever work they find most suitable. if an abrupt departure left DS in the lurch they producers were free to recast or write the character out of the storyline, and perhaps a "bridge was burned" and the actor not asked back, but that actor was under to legal obligation to the program.

and in terms of "something better coming along" daytime soap work at the time was not particularly lucrative or prestigious. even the actors themselves have quipped at their somewhat meager wages. so other film, stage or television work might have actually been more desirable to them at the time.

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the OS aired when I was in college and at some point in it's run they (quite foolishly in retrospect) moved it to Saturday nights...

I recall going to "keg" parties and everyone crowding into the one dorm room that had a television set and watching. it was "must see".

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I hope peggy lipton's available...

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once the main character suddenly became a creature who could only exist at night most of the ordinary "daytime" sets...the Collinwood kitchen, the diner, the cannery offices...were jettisoned.

replaced by crypts, basement laboratories, and the 'old house' as a main location.

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Current Talk '14 II / CBS This Morning and DS
« on: October 13, 2014, 01:50:38 PM »
did anyone else catch this morning's episode of 'CBS This Morning'?

they did a story on television's "new" blood and guts "craze" featuring the current batch of vampire and zombie fare...

looking back at previous shows that dealt with the subject they showed clips from (of all things) 'The Muensters' and DS. the clip from DS was the opening shot of the ocean waves crashing and a shot of Willie opening the coffin and Barnabas' hand reaching out to strangle him...

needless to say the word "campy" was employed to describe the tone of the old shows.

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that pretty much sums it up...

but for some reason 'leviathan' has become the scapegoat in the story.

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the leviathan storyline definitely gets a lot more flack from fans that it really deserves...

it was deeply flawed to be sure. but most DS storylines were. but there's sort of this alternate universe "truth" in the fandom that it was the "reason" the series was cancelled.

the fact that it ran for another year and was actually cancelled in a time period that had nothing whatsoever to do with it (incidentally a "time travel" storyline for those who insist they were "better" than the "present day" episodes) gets ignored. it part of fan lore.

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the ross novels seem more "inspired by" the series than actually a cohesive part of it...

to be fair coordinating the publishing of these books with the day-to-day plotting of a shot live serial that basically made itself up as it went along would have been almost impossible in terms of continuity.

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in one that I read liz and roger have a brother named "professor veno"...

the ross novels really function in some sort of alternate universe.

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I believe you're right, Gothick. It's also the only time that Angelique puts in an appearance in the Ross novels,  choosing to torment Barnabas by looking exactly the way she did when they first met.  With raven hair and olive skin.

interesting...

I only have a few of the early Victoria-centered Ross novels. I assumed Angelique became a major player in the later ones like she did on the series. she only appeared in one???

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 II / Re: Sam Hall 1921 - 2014
« on: September 27, 2014, 06:20:40 PM »
thanks midnite...

I saw these postings early this morning on FB but could not verify their authenticity.

r.i.p.