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as an aside a fan recently found the "original" (and short lived) willie loomis james hall on FB...


apparently he's "open" to hearing from DS fans. he looks pretty good. 

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: The Month of Victoria's Arrival
« on: June 29, 2015, 11:19:02 AM »
I'm somewhat ashamed to admit I still watch one of the few remaining daily soaps. 'the bold & the beautiful'...


like DS and in typical soap fashion a single show "day" can last for weeks. however unlike DS they have a special Thanksgiving and Christmas episode every year. on the Thanksgiving show the entire cast gathers at the home of one character for dinner. on the Christmas show they all volunteer at a homeless shelter.

the get around the continuity bugaboo by making these "stand alone episodes" that can get inserted into the week on the correct day but doesn't really effect the overall progression of any of the storylines. the actors are "in character" but for the purposes of those episodes characters that normally cannot stand each other "put their differences aside" for the day and focus on their good works or the "spirit of the holiday". so regardless of what's happening with the plot they can produce these episodes and acknowledge the holidays without really throwing anything out of whack.

there's no "cliffhanger" and the next day they can all go back to lying to, hating and backstabbing each other.

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I'm sure if you asked cody to make you one she'd oblige. she was the "star" of the show after all. [ghost_rolleyes]


"extras" include 101 ways to say "who are youuuuu???", '16 and a dollhouse' and 'how to use knee socks to distract from a developing bust'.  [ghost_blink] [ghost_blink]

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given the perceived "failures" of the 1991, 2004 and 2012 version of the story I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for another take on it...


and the "rights" to the property might still be tied up with the deep/burton deal even though it's obvious by now they have no intention of any further expansion of the franchise.

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: The Month of Victoria's Arrival
« on: June 27, 2015, 11:50:08 AM »
in other words Vicki's first 24 hours at Collinwood occupied over a month's worth of episodes.  [ghost_rolleyes]

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: The Month of Victoria's Arrival
« on: June 27, 2015, 11:37:29 AM »
the book 'dark shadows. the first year' does a breakdown of each show "day" during the first year...

given the snail's pace it moved during that period it wasn't a lot of "days". the "night" of Victoria's arrival in Collinsport lasted a week. her first full, action packed "day" lasted a staggering sixteen episodes. the entire bleeder valve/car crash incident occurs on that one "day" even though it was actually three full weeks of episodes. that mystery was solved on "day three".

all in all only 52 "days" passed until a certain "cousin from England" shows up at the front door.

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I'm waiting for 'the best of mrs.johnson'...

dvd "bonuses" include cast commentary on sour mayonnaise, stolen cigarettes, lousy new england boiled dinners, pillbox hats and the horror of coats thrown across foyer tables rather than hung up on a hook by the door. 

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: Discuss - Infamous Ep #0938
« on: June 21, 2015, 09:32:52 PM »
as I recall the recently married Jeb and Carolyn was the first (and only?) time we actually saw a couple in bed together on the show.  [ghost_blink]

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: Discuss - Infamous Ep #0938
« on: June 21, 2015, 02:53:01 PM »
Marie Wallace said in an interview that to this day she doesn't understand the Leviathan plot...


she just read the scripts that were handed to her but never knew where it was going.

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: Discuss - Infamous Ep #0938
« on: June 14, 2015, 09:29:49 PM »
by the time they started mentioning "claude north" (every five minutes) the time period was winding down anyways...


it was really much ado about nothing.  [ghost_huh]

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: Discuss - Infamous Ep #0938
« on: June 14, 2015, 07:32:57 PM »
by the time Vicki's witchcraft trial commenced most of the 1795 characters were dead or soon would be. it was sort of "denouement". the "action" of the period was largely over and it was just sort of wrapping things up...


since Vicki would be the only character returning to "the present" it was more about building a bridge for her to return in a dramatic way. it wasn't really woven into the overall story arc.

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: Discuss - Infamous Ep #0938
« on: June 14, 2015, 11:14:15 AM »
Dark Lady, I actually love PT 1970.  It is the last storyline with a plot that has a coherent development, and a finale that draws together all the loose threads in a satisfactory conclusion. Granted there are speed bumps--notably Aunt Hannah's abrupt disappearance once Hoffman comes back (she was evidently viewed as a surrogate for Hoffman, as Alexalique's co-conspirator), and the whole Claude North thing (I wonder if Brian Sturdivant just failed to show up for work one day--that's what happened with Craig Slocum).  I also enjoy getting to see Edmonds, Bennett, Thayer and others play such way-out characters.  John Karlen played an alcoholic writer, but Will H. Loomis was still more with-it than his previous characterizations--though I will always love Willie best of all his roles.  The Jekyll/Hyde plot isn't all that interesting to me, but every storyline has something that I feel the urge to fast forward through (in 1795, it's the Vicki/Peter stuff and Vicki's endless trial scenes).

The final weeks of Leviathan are memorable for that awful "Shadow" "special" effect.  Ah well.


as you know I'm also a great fan of 1970PT. it's planned brevity made for a nice, tight, concise little moment. it was visually very appealing and had it's own unique atmosphere. as I recall they even employed a different set of musical cues to heighten the effect of being in a "different" universe.

for me it was the last truly original storyline (if "original" is a word that can really be applied to heavily cribbed material) before the whole thing started to devolve into retreads. except for the brief jaunt to 1995 it was the last storyline/time period I was actually engaged in.

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it's still in pre-production but according to IMDb (which is often wrong) only maclachlan and a couple of other original castmembers are fully "onboard' for the season...

it looks like everyone else is just a one episode "cameo" which is quite disappointing.  [ghost_huh]

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: Discuss - Infamous Ep #0938
« on: June 12, 2015, 10:48:56 PM »
certainly 1968, and one could argue much of 1897, were told from a rather "adolescent" sensibility. it was the stuff of lunch boxes and bubble gum cards...


the introductory weeks of 'leviathan'...a young couple establishing an antique shop in town, paul stoddard's return from the abyss...definitely had a more "adult" sensibility. there were days when it seemed more like an episode of 'edge of night' than a show that had become synonymous with monsters.

which is actually what I liked about the period. it was wonderfully dark and atmospheric before it started to go off the deep end. and the todds were great, epically tragic figures in the whole thing. unlike some other figures in the story they didn't "sign up" for any of it but paid the ultimate price for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Current Talk '15 I / Re: Discuss - Infamous Ep #0938
« on: June 12, 2015, 03:12:57 AM »
given how far out the previous storyline...1897...had been I don't really get why everyone was so up in arms about this???

from 1968 on the show was completely over the top plot wise.