Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - michael c

331
Current Talk '15 II / Re: Grant Douglas/Quentin Collins
« on: September 20, 2015, 07:07:13 PM »
while the rest of the cast got to play new and different characters in each of the time periods I got the impression DC was "afraid" to give Selby another role to play.

so even though they are technically supposed to be different people the various "Quentins" are supposed to represent the same thing to the viewer. if you rooted for Quentin in 1897 you're supposed to root for him in 1840 even though it's actually a different character. but it isn't.

they just glued the sideburns on and told him to act the same. it was more an exercise in "branding" than character development.

332
Current Talk '15 II / Re: Grant Douglas/Quentin Collins
« on: September 20, 2015, 06:12:10 PM »
to me he seemed the same as all the others. nothing really distinguished one from the next...


I guess 1970PT Quentin was angrier and more belligerent (and wore louder sports coats).

333
Current Talk '15 II / Re: Grant Douglas/Quentin Collins
« on: September 20, 2015, 03:13:22 PM »
if they had returned him to some of his more roguish ways during the later time periods/storylines it might have been much more successful...

but as it stood each successive "Quentin" was duller than the last. 

334
Current Talk '15 II / Re: Grant Douglas/Quentin Collins
« on: September 20, 2015, 02:59:35 PM »
I've always felt Quentin's stratospheric popularity within the fandom has much more to do with Selby's good looks and charisma than anything the character itself actually brought to the story.

335
Current Talk '15 II / Re: Grant Douglas/Quentin Collins
« on: September 20, 2015, 02:51:04 PM »
that's what drove me crazy too...


one minute he was a total stranger. the next he was a core member of the family mentioned on par with Roger and Liz. after 1897 I always felt like the character was being forced on the viewer.

and after Selby had played the character as such a wonderfully malevolent ghost in 1969 and womanizing cad during the first half of 1897 once they tried to make him "nice" (or whatever the heck he was supposed to be) he was as dull as dishwater.

they took all the "juice" out of Quentin. and then having Selby essentially play the same character for the rest of the series didn't do him any favors either.

336
Current Talk '15 II / Re: Murky/Inaccurate Memories...?
« on: September 20, 2015, 01:33:31 PM »
I'm not surprised Green wants to work with Burton again. I actually thought her "Angelique" was one of the film's strong points. her garish "look"...platinum hair, bright red lips... was supposed to be "too perfect" and evoke a nightmarish, dystopian version of the "American dream"...

and I get the distinct impression Roger, David and Vicki were the biggest victims in the cutting room. there was obviously supposed to be a lot more "there" but they were sacrificed to push Barnabas and Angelique to the forefront of the narrative.

337
Current Talk '15 II / Re: Laura 1785/1897
« on: September 19, 2015, 12:06:21 PM »
as much as I enjoyed seeing Diana Millay again Laura's presence in 1897 and the rewritten 1795 threw so much previously established continuity out of whack it was impossible to ever try and reconcile or make sense of it.

it was a rewrite.  [ghost_huh]

338
Current Talk '15 II / Re: 1970PT Watching Project Addendum Revisited
« on: September 18, 2015, 01:50:14 AM »
I like to think DCP gifted it to Joan in honor of her services.  [ghost_rolleyes]

339
Current Talk '15 II / Re: 1970PT Watching Project Addendum Revisited
« on: September 18, 2015, 12:43:52 AM »
A complaint I have about PT 1970 (a storyline I really love, btw), is that PT Liz was originally given outdated sweaters and off the rack skirts to wear.  Very mousy and dowdy. When she "came back" from her "rest," she was back to the standard issue "Elizabeth Collins Stoddard, Lady of the Manor" wardrobe.  And the dialogue about her anxieties when Quentin was late with her monthly check also disappeared.

at least she never appeared in "Liz's" chartreuse roll neck caftan thing (although it was probably still out at Lyndhurst)...

a similar thing happened with "Flora" in 1840. when first introduced she was sort of a doodlehead. however a few episodes in Joan, or someone, got cold feet and she quickly reverted to her standard issue imperious and "matriarchal" Liz-type of characterization.

340
Current Talk '15 II / Re: 1970PT Watching Project Addendum Revisited
« on: September 17, 2015, 12:25:12 AM »
thanks...

I always thought it was a nice touch that they splurged for new wardrobe for the "parallel time" period to differentiate the characters there from there "real time" counterparts.  there was virtually no crossover.

they composed a few new musical cues for the storyline as well so the viewer knew they were in an "alternate" time period.

341
Current Talk '15 II / Re: 1970PT Watching Project Addendum Revisited
« on: September 16, 2015, 02:26:41 AM »
and leave it to DC to pinch a few pennies by utilizing the rented period costumes for both applications.  [ghost_rolleyes]

342
Current Talk '15 II / Re: 1970PT Watching Project Addendum Revisited
« on: September 16, 2015, 02:22:48 AM »
I seem to recall Joan in costume in both the film and the series as well. maybe Louis too?

obviously Lara and David Selby did not come from the film shoot. I forget who else attended the ill-fated costume party on the series.

343
Current Talk '15 II / Re: 1970PT Watching Project Addendum Revisited
« on: September 16, 2015, 02:03:21 AM »
I've heard that cast came directly from the Lyndhurst shoot in their "period costumes" to the studio to shoot the parallel time "costume party" sequence. or vice versa...

I've never actually compared them side by side.

344
what has me stumped is the presence of Sheryl Lee in the cast...

as we all know Laura Palmer is deader than a doornail. so is her lookalike cousin.


and ghosts and visions do not age. Palmer died as a teenager and Lee is now in her 40s. is she playing a living flesh and blood character???

345
Current Talk '15 II / Re: Grant Douglas/Quentin Collins
« on: September 13, 2015, 09:50:49 PM »
in the other time periods they could write him a narrative purpose. in "the present" he was sort of useless.