i'm with you on adam.i've complained about him here(ad nauseum)but it infuriated me that the writers took this dumb,boring character,who had nothing to do with anything that had ever happened before,and allowed him to hijack the entire show show for nearly a year.

when this topic was first posted i had yet to discover the charms of ned stuart and dirk wilkinson.both characters can take pride of place along side jeff clark in the most annoying category.roger davis was just the worst!

good topic.

i have always perceived victoria winters to be the 'classic gothic ingenue'.that's the way that the character was written.

when i first got into the show i was stunned by the negative and even angry reactions can sometimes get from fans.i've always found her supposed "i don't understand-ish-ness" to be greatly exaggerated across fandom. a situation only worsened by comments that alexandra moltke herself made in 1968 during a time when she was(quite understandably)unhappy with her storyline.

the mention of allison mackenzie is important.she was played by mia farrow whom also of course played the doomed rosemary woodhouse in 'rosemary's baby'.like vicki...classic gothic ingenue.if these characters were 'in on it' there would be no story.

it's important to remember that this type of girl was conceieved in the pre-feminist age.they weren't meant to be "dumb" but innocent.in today's context it doesn't play but the 1960's were a different era.

but back to topic.i haven't seem many of the other soap ingenues mentioned here but indeed vicki might have become a more extreme example of the stereotype once the show went supernatural because the way the plot was set up she always needed to be slightly out of step with what was happening around her.

in a story top-heavy with villians she was the single character on the show who was never "bad".i always found that endearing but of course it's a matter of opinion.

lately i have noticed some changes to our personal profile options.

for one it used to tell when a member was "last active".that seems to have disappeared.

another was the "show topics started by this member" option.i found that option to be particularly useful because often when i have a question about the show i forget if i already asked it and what the replies were and that was a handy tool rather than having to re-read all of my posts(which are now in the hundreds vs. the 50 or so topics i've started).

why were these options changed?

Quote from: mscbryk on October 28, 2005, 03:50:17 AM

there is a scene during 1897 when magda comes to collinwood bearing a silver bullet filled gun.

I don't know why this sentence made me crack up, but it did!    Maybe it was the "bearing a silver bullet filled gun" that did it.  Only on DS!

so true!sometimes when i'm watching i have to stop myself and say "am i really so into this insanity?"

of course the answer is always yes!

not an all-time favorite but i love it when a little scene sort of comes out of nowhere and stays with you.

there is a scene during 1897 when magda comes to collinwood bearing a silver bullet filled gun.she tries to gain entry despite judith's firm protestations.there was just some great writing and back-and-forth between the actors here and bennett and hall were both in top form.

no brick throwing here but the main reason that i'm disappointed that d.s. is not airing anywhere at present is that potential new fans aren't being exposed to it.

one just doesn't randomly start buying expensive dvds of a 1,225 episode series unless there was already some interest there.

i wasn't even born when d.s. premiered and would never have developed an interest in it if not for that original exposure on the sci-fi channel.

oh,and welcome mary elizabeth!

carolyn:"you need'nt fix me a drink burke...that hit of LSD i took in the ladies room at the blue whale just kicked in.this night is going to be so much fun!"

speaking of wacky dream sequences...

i've been watching dvd collection 14(part of the 1897 storyline)and it features not just one of the most bizarre dream sequences but perhaps one of the strangest episodes of the show period.

i don't want to "spoil" anything but let's say it tells of a dream of jamison's that features,among other things,a hand puppet,a birthday cake and present-time carolyn,elizabeth and roger.

i'm sure you guys remember what i'm talking about.it was so weird!it had a really saturated color palette that hightened the dream-like quality.i had to watch it about five times because i felt like i was hullucinating...which of course i wasn't but it was intensely weird.