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have a great one gothick!!! [beer]

be good!

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: quentin in the "present"
« on: July 27, 2006, 12:54:19 AM »
gothick,

it's good to know that none of the mysteries being set up here get solved during the 1840 storyline because i have absolutely no intention of watching it.the 'summer of 1970' is my d.s. swan song.

buzz,

it's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment but quentin does tell barnabas and julia that chris,amy and sabrina have left collinsport.a stunning lack of any sort of a conclusion to a storyline that they allowed to languish for way too long.

they should have found some way for barnabas to reverse the curse in 1897 because once the show returned to the present and the leviathan storyline started it was obvious that this was not a priority anymore.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: DS Cookbook
« on: July 27, 2006, 12:45:23 AM »
luciaphil,

it was you who first turned me on to ms.lee in the "idol thoughts".i had never even heard of her.

but she's the worst!it's like cooking with the "stepford wives".wierd sort of 1950's era back-of-the-box cookery.
i like it when she adds some sort of flavoring extract to canned icing and uses it to frost a cake.

it comes on saturday morning so sometimes i watch it with my coffee in disbelief.

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Current Talk '06 II / a.k.a is quentin the new roger?
« on: July 26, 2006, 03:57:13 AM »
just a few more things then i'll stop...

there seems to be a distinct bit of revisionist history going on during the summer of 1970.in order to increase the perception that quentin was just this dyed-in-the-wool-been-around-forever character they commit a few glaring continuity gaffes.

during the picnic episodes quentin tells david that he has been asking to use his camera "for a year".a year earlier we were still squarely in the 1897 storyline and if anything david was terrifed of quentin and hardly likely to ask to borrow his camera.sloppy!

quentin also asks the ghost of daphne why she chose now to come to him when he had been at collinwood "all these many years".in fact he hadn't been at collinwood for nearly a century.sloppy!

also,since roger is absent from this part of the storyline("in europe")quentin sort of assumes his usual role.a suited-up,brandy-swilling sceptic squabbling with liz.

they really didn't have to do this here.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: DS Cookbook
« on: July 25, 2006, 01:06:27 AM »
i don't have diana millay's cookbook but i do have her silly book "the power of halloween" and in the back there are some scary recipes and tips...

vegetables stir-fried in apple juice?chicken coated with orange marmalade and lipton's onion soup mix?hashbrowns made with a can of cheddar cheese soup?if these sound good than this is your book. :P

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: quentin in the "present"
« on: July 22, 2006, 10:49:05 PM »
i agree that quentin should have been given the caretaker's cottage,or the carriage house,or even a room at the old house.

but i have a theory about why they stuck him in his old room at collinwood.this is of course total speculation on my part but 1897 had been the show's most highly rated storyline.by the time we get to the episodes in question here the ratings had dipped precipitously.so i think that by putting quentin in his old space(including that funky gramaphone)they were trying to revive nostalgia for that era.it was part of the quentin "branding" whether or not it made any sense.

but it is really lame that he's there.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: the hemline switch of 1970
« on: July 22, 2006, 04:28:24 PM »
I remember Marlo Thomas suddenly switching from minis to midis (or was it maxis?) in the last season or two of "That Girl."  For some reason, I found it very disconcerting at the time (and I know next to nothing about women's fashions!).

i know what you mean.

there is something sour about the drop from mini's to midi's.

the mini has a breeziness to it.it's girlish.it's unfettered and fun.the midi makes some for heavy weather.it sort of symbolizes that the bubbly,jet-set cocktail of the 1960's is over and the grim hangover of the 1970's has begun.

i re-watched these episodes last night and i couldn't take my eyes off that damned granny skirt.i was much relieved a few episodes later when carolyn returns to the mini. ;)

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Polls Archive / Re: Collinwood settings
« on: July 21, 2006, 12:45:16 AM »
i haven't seen HODS but i do have NODS on video and the change in location from the house used on the show to the one used in the movies is very noticable to me.

in NODS i didn't feel like i was at collinwood at all.

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Current Talk '06 II / the hemline switch of 1970
« on: July 21, 2006, 12:38:04 AM »
the show's costuming always has me on the edge of my seat.

but nothing prepared me for the drop in hemlines during the summer of 1970.

when the show premiered in 1966 skirt lengths were squarely at the knee and over the next few years progressively got shorter until we hit the panty-skimming highs of early 1970.that's how i was used to seeing the characters.

but i noticed something was amiss during the early episodes of dvd set 22(which i'm watching now)when liz shows up in a pink suit with a skirt worn below the knee.a length not worn on the show in years.but still liz was a mature women so it wasn't totally out of line.the full on visual assault occured a few episodes later when quentin,david,maggie and carolyn go on a picnic and carolyn appears in a full-fledged,calf-length granny skirt!the shift in proportion was jarring.i felt like some alien element had seeped into the show.around this same time maggie gets a zig-zag knit top and full length maxi and in general the make-up and hairstyles are looser and more natural.

i'm not old enough to remember the whole "mini" "midi" "maxi" debate of the early 70's but i can see here how all the fuss was started.it takes some time for the eye to adjust!

style-wise things had been slouching toward bohemia for some time but here the shift was abrupt but decisive.a visual cue that we're drifting towards gas lines,watergate and the symbionese liberation army. :o

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sedatives...hair bows...bleeder valves.

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liz:"david stop that!for the last time my cranium is not bursting through the top of my head..."

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Thoughts of the Festival...
« on: July 20, 2006, 01:19:53 AM »
i wouldn't worry too much about spoilers coming from any of the stars who are attending the festival.

as kathryn leigh scott has said in her books she cannot remember the progression of a single storyline.a couple of years ago i made the foolish mistake during a panel discussion of asking her a very specific question(whether or not she remembered the riddle used to escape her cell during her imprisonment by barnabas "one,two away they flew...")and needless to say she couldn't(i'll bet many of us can).

most of us probably know more about the show's various plotlines than they do.

even stranger was an encounter i had with diana millay.i asked her which of her two storylines on the show was her favorite.the 1966 one or the 1897 one.she told me flatly that she had no idea what i was talking about.when i reminded her that she appeared on the show twice(nearly three years apart)she told me that she couldn't remember anything about the show at all an in fact had never even seen most of it. ???

so spoilers probably won't be a huge factor.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: The Slap Heard Round the World
« on: July 16, 2006, 06:09:17 PM »
i agree gothick that the slap was genius.

i had heard tale of it but had no idea what episode it occured in.but when julia got up off that sofa and slowly walked across the room i totally saw it coming and the moment of contact was brilliant.i love julia's bored,exhausted look as she leaves.

vicki's little zinger is the icing on the cake of an all-time favorite scene. ;)

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: How much time passed in the series?
« on: July 16, 2006, 06:01:45 PM »
it's very difficult to say how much time actually passed on the series because of the way it was plotted.

as luciaphil has pointed out a single day/night can last for several episodes.

i think the most striking example of this is the night of the sceance that sent vicki back to the year 1795.
if you remember this "night" actually started with barnabas trying to drive julia insane with the ghost of dr.woodard.this sequence lasted in think for several episodes before we actually get to the sceance.then of course during the months that vicki was in the past only seconds passed in the present.when vicki returns to the present this same night continues for a few more episodes.

so nearly five months went by but it's actually still the same night on the show.that kind of thing makes it nearly impossible to try and establish how much time passed on the series. :P

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: quentin in the "present"
« on: July 16, 2006, 05:48:19 PM »
what they did with quentin here was doubly annoying because while they didn't give him anything interesting to do they also were determined to shove down your throat how important he was.

for instance when barnabas and julia encounter carolyn in 1995 she goes on about quentin in the same breath as she does her mother and her uncle roger and david.but before the storyline switched to 1970pt carolyn had little contact with quentin and he was only around collinwood for a month or two.she certainly didn't have the time to establish a close relationship with him or fill a scrapbook full of pictures of him.

i also think when barnabas and quentin are on screen together they sort of cancel each other out.that they are both such casper milquetoasts during this part of the story(with gerard our villian-du-jour)doesn't help.

with quentin in 1897 they created such a complex,well developed character it's a shame they didn't bring anything interesting to the table with him in the present.