Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - michael c

2371
Current Talk '04 II / Re: the vicki switch
« on: March 16, 2007, 02:51:02 AM »
i always thought that alexandra moltke's placidness perfectly suited her character's melancholy nature.

but being something of an alexandra enthusiast i did notice that during her final few months on the show she seemed practically sedated.i mean she took the trouble to learn her lines.she never screwed up.but her delivery was detatched and disinterested.

to me it seemed like something must have been going on in her personal life.she just wasn't 100% there.

2372
Current Talk '07 I / Re: Who did the best voiceovers?
« on: March 16, 2007, 12:43:31 AM »
my vote goes to alexandra.i loved the "my name is victoria winters..." voiceovers.it had the quality of a girl reciting a passage from her diary.

joan and grayson are both great as well.

for some reason i find it discombobulating when an actor(not an actress)reads it.

kathryn leigh scott erroneously stated in one of her books that the only criterion for reciting the voicoever was that one didn't appear in the opening scene.i have recently watched several episodes where alexandra reads the voiceover and then appears in the opening shot.the same thing with grayson.

2373
Current Talk '07 I / Re: In support of the Jason McGuire storyline.
« on: March 14, 2007, 01:49:24 AM »
i love the jason mcquire storyline.joan bennett and jason patrick were brilliantly matched.it was some of the most vituoso writing and acting ever on the show i think.

it's true that during the first year all of the characters(the collins family,vicki,burke,the folks down at the evans' cottage)have their own storylines and subplots.

with the conclusion of the jason plot that changes.from june 1967 on no one ever has a storyline that barnabas does not factor into in some signifigant way.this shift is abrupt but decisive.it's also kind of remarkable when you consider that barnabas was supposed to be a thirteen week character and he ends up driving the whole thing for the next four years.

it makes one wonder what the writers had mapped out for the other characters has barnabas not taken off the way he did.what would have been next for liz after the jason storyline has she not been sidelined?

i agree with iluvbarnabas in that nancy barrett faired better than most in that she was more malleable.she could play the ingenue but she could also be flawed.this opened up storyline possibilities to her that were not available to alexandra as victoria(or later on kathryn leigh scott as maggie).for whatever reason the writers decided that vicki could only express virtuos qualities.this limited what her character could do.

as for joan and louis i think that in general they did better in the historical time periods(god bless naomi and judith!).the writers seemed a bit unsure about how to use liz and roger in the "present" once the show went into supernatural overdrive.that said they did provide some much-needed normalcy and continuity to the otherwise nutty situations.

2374
Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0249
« on: March 12, 2007, 06:53:52 PM »
in general i've noticed a preference for a type of shoe very specific to d.s..it's sort of a low,squat heel but not a flat.the toe is usually squared-off.

it's a very "square" shoe but i kind of like it.it provides a satisfying "clack" on the stone floors of the foyer at collinwood.

the worst is when one of the characters has to appear in her nightgown.then she gets this super wierd "bed shoe".it's not a slipper exactly.it's harder.it's really dowdy. ::)

it's funny how the show embraced certain 1960's trends while managing to avoid others completely.for intance no one ever wears textured or colored stockings.it's always a "sheer".no one ever wears those god-awful white "go-go" boots that were fashionable at the time either.

2375
liz"i'm sorry roger but it was jason's wish that we turn this place into a b&b.if you'd like you can work in the gift shop.otherwise you'll have to leave.now if you'll excuse me i've got to get lunch on the table...we're having lobster roles."

2376
Current Talk '07 I / Re: Cancellation
« on: March 11, 2007, 05:58:06 PM »
i guess if i had been a fan at the time i would have been devestated by the show's cancellation.
but as a contemporary viewer i have found the five year cycle to be quite satisfying.i'm really not sure how much more i could have taken...and this is only having watched sequentially from episode one through the summer of 1970.i still have yet to watch the 1840/1841pt storylines.

as for the much maligned leviathan and 1970 parallel time storylines i was quite surprised at how much i actually enjoyed them despite their many(deep)flaws.

where the whole thing began to lose steam for me was during the summer of 1970 episodes.perhaps i was just sort of burned out on it but i couldn't muster up much enthusiasm.

as for the 1840/1841pt storylines i still can't work up any interest in them.from what i've read here they're sort of all over the place.some people like them and some don't but for whatever reason i'm really caring less and less about whether or not i ever watch them.

i'm having more fun rewatching some favorites. :P

2377
Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0250
« on: March 11, 2007, 05:41:26 PM »
lydia makes an interesting point.

when i first watched these episodes a few years ago i watched them on vhs.so via the process of ordering the five episode tape,watching it a few times,ordering the next volume,waiting seven to ten days to recieve it and so on my memory of maggie's abduction and imprisonment was that they lasted for several weeks...perhaps even months.

but having rewatched these episodes again recently on dvd i was surprised that in fact this whole period was quite brief.from start-to-finish perhaps three weeks.

2378
Current Talk '07 I / Re: Where are the costumes?
« on: March 07, 2007, 02:36:08 AM »
what i'd like to know is why some of the "present day" costumes got lots of use while others only got one or two airings.

for example in 1967 julia gets this really lush salt-and-pepper tweed number.it was yummy.yet i recall only seeing it once.contrast this to that lime-green get up she wears for her entire run as dr.hoffman.similarly i remember towards the end of her days on the show vicki got a lovely emerald-green sleeveless with pockets and big brass buttons.again,one use. ???

then out of the clear blue sky sometimes they'd come up with something totally new.both carolyn and maggie got several new ensembles in the 1970 episodes...some of them featuring the then scandalous maxi-skirts!

2379
Current Talk '07 I / Re: The Leviathan Episode's
« on: March 04, 2007, 10:52:33 PM »
I'd still like to know where the werewolf mythos came in. Was this an original part of the story? Because if not, Neil Gaiman is a Dark Shadows fan.

my leviathan is a bit rusty but if i recall as originally plotted the leviathans existed only as an "energy" or something of that sort.there was no physical manifestation.

the show during the begining of this storyline was basically divided in half.barnabas lead the leviathan plot and julia lead the remainder of the chris jennings werewolf plot.the characters involved in each plot didn't interact much with those in the other.

so my guess is that tacking the werewolf thing onto the leviathan thing was a clumsy late attempt to interweave the two storylines.it didn't make any sense as the leviathans were originally described.

2380
Polls Archive / Re: is it "morally admirable" to kill a child?
« on: March 04, 2007, 06:56:53 PM »
i've been rewatching the part of the 1967 episodes where barnabas,convinced that david knows his "secret",decided that the boy needed to be done away with.

i had forgotten how much energy they had given to this little subplot.it's really quite shocking.

self-preservation is his modus operandi during this part of the show but still killing a child and a member of your own family is pretty harsh.this deed might spare barnabas exposure in the short-term(if david did indeed know what he was)but in the end would have thwarted alot of his bigger goals.for example.

the police:as julia rightly pointed out if david disappeared the police would conduct an investigation of the likes the town had never seen.it's one thing when a waitress and the daughter of the town drunk turns up missing but when it's the heir to the town's most prominent family it's quite another.they would search the old house top-to-bottom.no amount of stalling and double talk from willie would keep them out.

vicki:supposedly barnabas is in love with her.but if david died she would be emotionally destraught.inconsolable.at the very least the collins family would no longer need the services of a governess and she would leave.

elizabeth:it's made pretty clear that liz keeps the house and the business afloat for david's sake.she expects him to carry on the family name.neither roger or carolyn seem to have the inclination to take over the whole thing so she might have decided to sell the whole thing off...including the old house.

julia:she always said her arrangment with barnabas did not include the taking of a life.if david's killing did in fact take place she would have ratted him out anyways and this all would have been for naught.

2381
well put mangus,

liz and roger were not so much a "moral" as a "respectabilty center".they provided a dose of normalcy and continuity at collinwood when so much going on around them was nuts.

when they disappear for a bit in late 1968/early 1969 barnabas and julia sort of take over that role as strange as that sounds.

2382
i think that vicki's "admiration" of barnabas in 1967 and 1968 are two totally different things.

i've been rewatching 1967 lately and i'm not 100 percent sure of what the writers were going for with vicki here in her blindness to barnabas' oddness.at one point she even threatens to call-off her engagement to burke if he doesn't stop his private investigation of barnabas.considering how desperately she was seeking an identity this doesn't make much sense.to us this comes across as extreme naivety but i think they needed for her to see him as kindly older gentleman and for her to be an innocent,trusting girl for this storyline to work.

at various points in 1967 barnabas' conscience does start to awaken but in general he is as mean as a hornet right up until the sceance that leads to the 1795 storyline.

after 1795 vicki's admiration of barnabas changes in that they become allied in their belief that cassandra is really angelique.they're on a slightly more level footing.

for most of 1968 barnabas' moral compass is all over the map.he's certainly not the bastard he was in 1967 but i wouldn't say he was morally admirable until the start of the quentin storyline.i skipped the late 1968 fake-vicki episodes and the conclusion of the adam plot(i just didn't care about it)and i was surprised at the change in the direction of the character when i returned to the show.with vicki gone and elizabeth and roger "away" for part of this storyline barnabas(and julia)does function as the show's skewed,by default "moral center".wierd. ::)

2383
Current Talk '07 I / Re: Relating to DS
« on: March 01, 2007, 02:35:30 AM »
i was thinking about this recently.

when i'm not actually watching it or talking about it here i "relate" to the show in that if i'm feeling bored or depressed or stressed out thinking about it cheers me up a bit.it's relaxing.

i don't share the show with anybody in my personal life.it's sort of my private thing that i can lose myself in for a couple of hours and it takes my mind of the stresses of the "real world".there is nothing else that gives me quite the same sense of escape.

searching for d.s. related materials at thrift shops,flea markets,used book stores and the like is also something of a hobby.i've actually found alot of stuff over the years.

2384
Current Talk '07 I / Re: Crushes on DS Stars
« on: March 01, 2007, 02:22:20 AM »
my d.s. "crush" is an especially odd one in that while i play for the other team(if you get my drift)as many of you are probably(painfully)aware i am totally smitten by alexandra moltke as victoria winters.

i can't really explain it.she's so pretty.she has such nice hair.i like the sound of her voice.

when she's onscreen i'm transifixed.even at vicki's vapid and wimpy worst(and she spent the better part of 1968 there)i like seeing her. :P

2385
Current Talk '07 I / Re: Marie Wallace visits Dark Shadows Forums
« on: February 27, 2007, 02:26:24 AM »
wow what an unexpected treat!

welcome marie.we've met several times at the fests.

i really enjoyed all three of the characters you played.it's great to have you on board! :-*