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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: Christmas_Season Theme
« on: December 07, 2007, 02:59:45 AM »
indeed!

some of us are in league with the devil,others pray to the great god ra,while i personally pledge allegiance to an indian warlock i met in barbados. [santa_wink]

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david,

this is all many moons ago but if i recall kate(miss jackson if you're nasty!)had developed a reputation for very diva-like behavior.

apparently she was hired to be the "star" of 'charlie's angels' but was quickly overshadowed by her "jigglier" castmates.much to her dismay.

then by the time she appeared on 'scarecrow and mrs. king'(around the time this pole was done in the late 1980's)she was supposedly very difficult and demanding on-set(i forget if money was somehow involved in all this).

a far cry from her "ingenue" days on d.s..

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Current Talk '07 II / DS Fashion (was when was this interview done?)
« on: December 04, 2007, 05:27:59 PM »
considering that a major department store furnished the wardrobe it's surprising that they didn't get more clothing to wear...some ensembles got years of use.

elizabeth's insane chartreuse "hostess gown" thing makes it's first appearance in 1966...and it's still being worn in the h.o.d.s. movie in 1970.

julia's green tweed suit gets a good four year run.

they did seem to update the wardrobe periodically.during the 1966 episodes they seem to be wearing one set of outfits.in 1967/68 another.for late 1969/70 another.after each trip through time(where the actors don historical costume)they get a few new things.carolyn and maggie both got almost entirely new wardrobes after 1897.they splurged on 1970pt also...the outfits there from what i recall were never used in the "present" which is saying something since as a general rule they didn't think these episodes would be watched more than once and they could have saved here and thought no one would notice.it was a nice touch.

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Current Talk '07 II / DS Fashion (was when was this interview done?)
« on: December 01, 2007, 04:31:31 PM »
willie,

a long,long time ago when i was young and innocent on this board i posted a topic called something like "maggie wears the shortest skirts".

it was about how for whatever reason the producers were more experimental with the costuming for maggie than they were with carolyn and vicki.it's true.maggie definitely had the cutest clothes.there was a kickiness to mags' wardrobe the other 'ingenue' actresses didn't get.

at some point around 1970 they went even further and tried to turn maggie into a true fashion plate with her own credit on the show that read "miss scott's clothing courtesy of junior sophisticates" or something like that.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: betsy and alexandra and kathryn
« on: December 01, 2007, 04:21:21 PM »
patti,

you're right about maggie...she was indeed "flawed"(especially in 1966 when she was collinsport's town gossip).

but at heart maggie was essentially a "good girl" as was vicki.carolyn got to be downright nasty which they never really did.

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Current Talk '07 II / DS Fashion (was when was this interview done?)
« on: November 30, 2007, 03:50:54 PM »
just a funny little note about this interview...

whoever was conducting it asked alexandra if she had a favorite vicki dress...to which she laughed and replied that no she did not and that vicki was not very "stylish".

'ya think?! [hall2_rolleyes]

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: betsy and alexandra and kathryn
« on: November 30, 2007, 03:46:15 PM »
it's true that for whatever reason the writer's decided that of the three "ingenue" actresses nancy barrett's characters were allowed to be "flawed"...and for a particularly scrumptous period in 1967 carolyn was a royal b*tch!

where as alexandra and kathryn always played the goody-two-shoes.

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Current Talk '07 II / when was this interview done?
« on: November 29, 2007, 05:35:00 PM »
i bit the bullett and have been "trading up" on the "beginning" dvd's.

to offset the expense i found a funky little record/book store that is willing to buy the "collector's series" tapes from me.we haven't discussed a price yet so we'll see.

big question.the collection promises a "new" introduction and interviews with alexandra moltke.yet in them when she's discussing her current work she speaks of her documentary film 'PORRAIMOS' as an upcoming project...and it was released at least five years ago(2002 i believe).

so i wonder when and what this interview was done for.was the dvd release held back for a few years for some reason and this interview was shelved until then?

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: betsy and alexandra and kathryn
« on: November 29, 2007, 05:23:25 PM »
nostalgia can bring with it a rosy glow...

in her interviews on the new dvd collections alexandra speaks in glowing tones of how unique and creative dark shadows was.she also speaks very highly of her co-stars.joan bennett like a "second mother".nancy barrett a bridesmaid at her wedding.louis edmonds a "drawing room comedy".very high praise for jonathan frid and john karlen and mitch ryan and thayer david and clarice blackburn.after she left the series she speaks of missing the "camaraderie".

so it's too bad that(roger davis aside)she couldn't have found in that a way to make her time on the show a more positive experience for herself at the time.

i agree with gothick about the diner set...i miss it too once it departs.funny but that set is the first place barnabas meets maggie and whenever i go back and re-watch that scene it's strange to see him sitting there when we come to associate him with much more gothic environments.i would like to have seen maggie go back to work at the diner too.i like that "sassy waitress" element of her persona that gets lost over time.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: betsy and alexandra and kathryn
« on: November 27, 2007, 04:38:00 PM »
another thought...

because i love the show and am also so fond of alexandra's portrayal of vicki it makes me sad to know that she "hated" being on the show.

but her "socialite" status makes her seem a bit like a spoiled brat in this regard.while a stuggling young actress would have been happy to have regular work...let alone a leading role on one of television's biggest hits...because alexandra didn't need the paycheck she could afford to walk away.

still she was a grown woman who signed a contract.she may have disliked roger davis.she may have been unhappy with her storyline.but she could have been more of a trooper for the sake of her co-workers and fans.

at any rate her feelings about the whole thing must have softened up at some point since she's contributed to several of the d.s. related books and is narrating the new dvd collections.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: betsy and alexandra and kathryn
« on: November 27, 2007, 04:24:56 PM »
i'm on the fence about kathryn leigh scott being "phased out" at some point.

there is something of a disconnect between kls the actress and her importance on the show and the character of maggie evans.while it is true that if maggie had never taken over as collinwood governess her importance in the "present" might have been limited(it often was)kls the actress' association with josette was so strong that she would have continued to figure prominently in the time travel storylines.

and of course this all depends on what her contract looked like.

ironically while i can picture victoria continuing on as collinwood governess in the present i can't picture alexandra factoring into many of the time travel storylines after 1795.the opposite goes for kls.she had more of a role to play in the past.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: betsy and alexandra and kathryn
« on: November 27, 2007, 02:10:00 AM »
hmmm...

alexandra was never as heavily made up(unbecoming perhaps on a demure governess)as some of the other actresses on the show(and as perhaps the world's chief alexandra moltke aficionado i notice such things)but this business of refusing to wear make-up and not brushing her hair just isn't backed-up with on-screen evidence.

in her final episodes she's wearing plenty of eye make-up and her hair is as lustrous and ribbon be-decked as usual.

be that as it may ironically she didn't do the one thing she could have to ensure she'd be ousted and that's flubbing her lines and stopping tape.as "bland" as her delivery is during her final months on the show she took the trouble to learn her lines.she never screwed up...and on this show that's saying something.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: betsy and alexandra and kathryn
« on: November 26, 2007, 07:26:45 PM »
i did once read an interview with alexandra where she said that she was having a "difficult" time with her pregnancy...so maybe that meant morning sickness.

as far as alexandra "refusing" to wear make-up i think that lara parker was probably just spinning a yarn.the producers probably would not have stood for such childish nonsense and i can't recall ever seeing her onscreen looking un-made-up.

b.t.w. on dvd collection 23 they interview sam hall who goes on to say that jaclyn smith...roger davis' then wife...auditioned for the part of vicki when alexandra left but that dan curtis did not like her readings.that would have been interesting.

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how was thanksgiving at collinwood?

did matthew morgan go out and shoot a wild turkey himself or was it always a frozen butterball?
how was mrs. johnson's cooking on the big day?you just know the turkey was scorched-earth stuff,the giblet gravy was greasy,the veggies cooked to within an inch of their lives and she made a mincemeat pie laden with lard and suet and gamy venison and it was a total gross-out that the family politely ate anyways.

hope everyone had a great day. [hall2_wink]

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Current Talk '07 II / betsy and alexandra and kathryn
« on: November 26, 2007, 05:31:51 PM »
i've been looking at besty durkin in this week's slide show...

i never saw her episodes.i skipped ahead because i just couldn't handle a "fake-vicki" and i hated the adam storyline and didn't care about it's conclusion.

however i've come to understand that she proved an unworthy successor to alexandra and thus she,and subsequently the character of victoria,were written out of the show entirely(enter kathryn leigh scott in the role of collinwood governess).

so just how bad was she to prompt this drastic move?

did the producers know that the character was going to be written out anyways and thus just hired miss durkin to finish out the vicki/jeff storyline?was she just intended to "fill in" for alexandra during her maternity leave with the thought that she was going to return?if the writers decided to write the character out anyways couldn't they have persueded alexandra(who was under contract after all)to stick around for a couple more weeks and play out this storyline(those a-lines would more than cover up a growing tummy)?

also,if the character of vicki never left than kathryn leigh scott's maggie would never have taken over as collinwood governess.what kind of storyline would have been in store for maggie?