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Current Talk '07 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0404
« on: January 12, 2008, 05:42:14 PM »
yes,

having jeff clark and ned stuart overlap so closely was weird.especially given that they looked and acted exactly the same.they could have done something to differentiate the two characters but they didn't.

my guess about this is that roger davis had a contract and Spoiler:
after jeff "disappeared" into the past the producers needed to create a role for him.
ned stuart was a pretty minor player.they could easily have hired a different actor for his few episodes so using davis must have been a cost-saving measure or a contractural obligation.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0404
« on: January 12, 2008, 05:18:15 PM »
i think that the loathsomeness that is jeff clark is a bizzare cocktail of the scripts and roger davis' acting style.

the character was supposed to be "confused" because he didn't know who he was(only on d.s. folks!)but because of davis' belligerent acting style he always seemed angry.

and the way that the dialogue for jeff and vicki was written it always seemed like they were bickering even though they were supposed to be in love.what's more alexandra moltke's placid acting style gave their scenes together an odd dissonance.

it was said recently on another topic that peter(jeff)and vicki actually look "cute" together.i never really thought about it but yes,physically.they do make an attractive couple. [snow_lipsrsealed]

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: End of the Road
« on: January 10, 2008, 04:36:47 PM »
i made it about half-way through this storyline and lost interest.

i enjoyed virginia vestoff's performance as samantha and other things as well but i wasn't inspired to cough up the cash for dvd collection 24.maybe some day i'll pick it up again.

i understand the latter part of this period concerns a witchcraft trial with quentin as the unjustly accused.that sounds super boring to me.vicki's trumped-up trial was plenty for me.

to be honest after 1897 i don't really understand the quentin character(is he good or bad?what makes him tick?)and storylines that feature him at the center kind of bore me. [snow_lipsrsealed]

i too would rather have seen the show go out with some resolve of the 'present day' characters.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 10, 2008, 04:22:31 PM »
yes!

among the many crimes-of-fashion committed in this series is the unforgivable blunder of putting the imperious elizabeth collins stoddard in pants!

i don't think the costume supervisor understood the importance of liz looking 'regal' at all costs.

dr. hoffman wore a few too many pleated trousers for my taste as well.

the styles of the early 1990's were very strange indeed. [snow_strange]

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 08, 2008, 05:12:17 PM »
lydia,

that's a very interesting point and one i never really thought of before.

other than d.s. i'm not remotely interested in the scifi/fantasy/horror genres.this version of d.s. seems to want to appeal to fans of those types of shows.

funny,the original series aired for many years on the sci-fi channel and the actors often appear at fantasy/comic book types of conventions but that's not my approach to it.for me it was always a soap opera with a supernatural element to it.it's of a secondary concern.the fact that a vampire is the star of it is almost incidental.


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Polls Archive / Re: Dark Shadows biggest LOSERS (present time storyline)
« on: January 07, 2008, 05:14:26 PM »
i don't like to think of any of our characters as "losers"...

however in the dark shadows universe nobody ever really "wins".it seems to have at it's core themes of loss,despair and unrequited or unfulfilled love.

everyone gets brief reprieves but some new catastrophe is always lurking around the corner.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 07, 2008, 05:04:45 PM »
i find the willie character to be unnecessarily gross and stupid.i'm not sure why they chose to write the character that way.this show seems to want to take itself very seriously but he's written in a very camp way.plus he gets too much screen time.

jean simmons is completely wasted as elizabeth.

on the plus side ben cross does nicely as barnabas,barbara steel makes a suitably duplicitous julia and joanna going a charming victoria.

but as a whole this version lacks,as as been said,the humor but also the charm,naivete and whimsy of the original. [snow_lipsrsealed]

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: Dark Shadows Vol. 1: The Beginings
« on: January 02, 2008, 04:41:16 PM »
b.

the acting in the early episodes was quite good because i think the pacing was slower and the plots more realistic(to say the least)then they were in later years.

later on when the pacing becomes extremely frenetic and the plotlines outlandish it was probably harder for the actors to absorb the material as easily.

that said there are moments of acting genius throughout the series for me.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 02, 2008, 04:28:54 PM »
yes gothick,

here we go on the fashion again(someday i'm going to get into trouble).

i haven't noticed carolyn's clothing too much because she hasn't been featured that heavily in episodes i've seen so far.she does wear skirts that are extremely short however...funny the miniskirts of the 1960's look cute and girlish but the one's from the 1980's look trampy.i'm not sure why that is.

a look that look me aback was one weird combo that they put vicki in.she's almost wearing a victorian-type outfit of a long,floral print skirt,a high-necked,lace-collared blouse worn with a cameo brooch but they topped it with this athletic looking jacket.i had forgotten that type of look.it's really bad.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 02, 2008, 04:12:07 PM »
i watched another episode last night and i too was intrigued by the references to laura...they definitely seemed to be setting up a possible entrance for her in season two which to me would have made much more sense than getting into the quentin/chris jennings stuff so soon.for the laura storyline to have alot of impact david has to be quite young.it's odd that in the same episode that they introduced angelique they were referring to laura as a "witch".that's sort of confusing to viewers unfamiliar with the story.i would have been like "so who's this witch who cursed barnabas...laura or angelique?".maybe they thought that the whole "pheonix" thing was too obscure.

i do think that even in 1991 joan collins would have been much too old to play david's mother.

again i'll say most of the characters were woefully underwritten and underdeveloped.i don't know what to think of maggie as a "psychic" having an affair with roger.it's kind of random.i think maybe dan curtis wanted to include maggie but didn't really know how to so he just pulled this out of a hat.

one thing i really don't like is that by episode two everyone in collinsport is running around shouting "vampire!".it takes all the suspence and mystery out of it.in the original it was way cooler how no one knew what was going on just something strange and undefinable.if everyone in town knows there's a vampire it's sort of too much of a "spook show".oh,and those yellow contacts are so "thriller"!

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 01, 2008, 12:00:51 AM »
quentin in season two???

again blowing one's wad.

the weird thing about that(and this version in general)is that dan curtis tied to include too much of the original plot in too short an amount of time...and the only reason he did that would be to entertain himself and pacify long time fans who would demand that all of their favorite characters be included right off the bat.

the general public does not know who "quentin" or anyone else from the series is and to try and introduce too much to them is confusing.they're not expecting so-and-so because new viewers(and millions of them would be needed for a show to succeed)aren't familiar with the story.

it would have been wiser to flesh out the 'present time' characters and allow viewers to get to know them before getting into the time travel stuff so soon.

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Current Talk '07 II / how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: December 31, 2007, 06:49:51 PM »
for whatever reason i've never had much interest in the 1991 revival series...

however i found the dvd set at a local record/video store priced at a cool $14 so i just couldn't resist.plus all my favorite shows at the moment are in reruns/pre-emptions due to this seemingly interminal writers stike.

i'm only four episodes in so i can't say i dislike it but what i can say is it has me dumfounded.baffled.perplexed.

let's get the most glaring implausibilities out of the way first.for a show set in maine it's obviously shot i the blazing california sun(and no amount of dry ice can disguise this fact).what's more there are numerous shots of barnabas wandering around in said blinding sunlight.

a few fashion notes of course.even though this is technically a product of the 1990's it looks 1980's to me.three things i hoped to never see i my life.joe haskell with a mullett.david collins in 'coogi' sweaters and 'members only' jackets.barnabas collins in tight black t-shirts.and 91' maggie evans needs some serious hair conditioning...talk about frizz!the fashions,hairdos and make-up trends of the 1960's hold alot of charm for me.the early 90's not so much.

what i found most astounding is the pacing.why on earth did they try and cram an entire year's worth of storyline into a twelve episode season???why before they even established the present day characters did they thrust the show back to 1795?talk about blowing your wad.what were they going to do in season two?1897?

major characters like carolyn,maggie and liz are woefully underwritten.i'm not sure why maggie's original storyline went to this unknown "daphne" character.willie loomis is an idiot and seems to be a composit character of the original willie,matthew morgan and harry johnson.

that said i am getting sort of a kick out of it.i do think that if i wasn't familiar with the original material i would think this was the dumbest thing i had ever seen...there's just too much crammed in.the 1960's version get slammed for it's "campiness" but sixteen years later this "big budget" version is looking almost just as dated and cheesy.

like i said i'm only on episode four so i'll have more to say i'm sure. [a2a3]

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i don't mean to insult anybody's 'show'(and god knows ours has a "camp" reputation)but many of the shows on this poll surprised me...

i knew shows like 'dr.who' and 'star trek'(and d.s.)had wildly devoted "cult" fanbases but do some people really consider 'scarecrow and mrs.king' to be the "best show ever"?

there are several others that left me a bit perplexed as well.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: Dark Shadows Vol. 1: The Beginings
« on: December 28, 2007, 04:26:08 PM »
b.

dvd collection one should have a series introduction by alexandra moltke isles(victoria)as well as a collinsport history read by kathryn leigh scott(maggie).

there is additional commentary by alexandra and other members of the cast and crew throughout the collection.

if your set doesn't include these i would contact mpi.

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: No Slideshow - Eek!
« on: December 28, 2007, 12:09:15 AM »
it would be cool to try and find out what pre-empted d.s. on christmas day.

soap operas are always handled strangely on holidays.for instance this year "the young and the restless" aired it's christmas episode...from 1994!

the furs!the jewelry!the hairdos!
then they did something really weird i've never seen on a soap.as the 'newman' family toasted each other with egg-nog the actors actually "broke character",turned to the camera,and wished the viewers a happy holiday.weird. [a_xmas]