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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
« on: December 26, 2010, 02:57:06 PM »
there was something super-chic...and super icy...about leviathan liz.

i'm recalling lots of little black dresses and gobs of jewelry.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '10 II / Re: The Doctor Woodards in Movies
« on: December 24, 2010, 04:41:56 AM »
i haven't seen "the exorcist" in many years since before my DS days. who did gerringer play?

i'd watch it myself but it remains the one movie i cannot watch. it terrified me as a child and continues to do so to this day. even now when i see linda blair as a middle aged woman she scares the hell out of me.


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i actually haven't been following the preproduction of this too much but i gave this a look...

alot of the articles are phrasing it with a question mark("kirsten van wagner as victoria winters?")so there still seems to be much uncertainty about it.

she is quite stunning. i guess i'm relieved she's not a short haired blond. vicki's such an ingenue i don't mind an unknown actress portraying her. in fact i'm sort of expecting alot of semi-unknowns in this production(besides depp of course)for some reason.

my guess would be that liz and maybe julia will be the only bits of stunt-casting or semi-big names.

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: "Cutest couple ever" or not?
« on: December 19, 2010, 07:14:39 PM »
if i may go off on something of a tangent so much of what made the show work(or not work)was the chemistry between the actors involved.

for example in this viewers opinion jonathan frid had it IN SPADES with lara parker and grayson hall. yet despite josette being barnabas' "great love" i never found him to have it with kathryn leigh scott. on the same note he didn't have it with donna wadrey as roxanne either.

but again he had it with alexandra,nancy and joan.

scott for her part had nice chemistry going not with frid but with joel crothers(obviously),david ford and john karlen. for this reason a maggie/willie romance seems to be a fan favorite even though that never quite came to fruition on the show itself even though it was suggested. those two actors played so well off each other. apart from everthing else i never bought for a second the maggie/nicholas pairing because there was zero chemistry with astredo.

the nice interplay between joan and alexandra would also play a part in the fan's favoring of the liz-as-vicki's-mother theory as much as anything else.

for what it's worth despite their being partnered up as the show's marketable "antiheros" in later years i never cared for scenes between frid and david selby either. [santa_lipsrsealed]

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: "Cutest couple ever" or not?
« on: December 19, 2010, 04:01:57 PM »
frid and karlen did have a chemistry that first year that was never quite matched.

later on grayson hall sort of steals some of karlen's thunder as barnabas' sidekick and once they make barnabas "nice" the relationship's not as much fun.

willie and jason mcquire made a great "couple" too. great chemistry between karlen and dennis patrick.

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i thought the article was an interesting spin on things.

it's sort of a loaded thing. for actors who find themselves involved in any sort of "cult" thing while they may not achieve fame and fortune in the traditional sense(which of course can be fleeting anyways)but something else. something that takes on a life of it's own.

i guess it's sort of a trade-off. one has to make the decision to embrace it or try and distance oneself from it. interesting most of the surviving DS cast chooses to participate in it in some way. crappy,out of the way airport hotels. lousy food. the festival circuit is not glamorous but many choose to be engaged.

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
« on: December 16, 2010, 05:26:02 AM »
the "diva-rich" nature of this week's slideshow certainly continues with la millay's diner entrance as laura collins. one of my favorite character introductions too.

even before the whole pheonix thing got going i was hooked. diana's delivery was so odd i was just mesmerized by this strange woman and storyline.

as for the hat i suppose it could have been diana's own. note however how trim diana's suit is here and how increasingly blowsy her outfits get as the plot progresses. mostoller was certainly creative at disguising her "condition". [santa_wink]

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
« on: December 14, 2010, 12:01:00 AM »
boy is today's slideshow loaded with moments to cherish and remember. great stuff from joan bennett from all four years.

gothick i knew you'd be impressed. love the scene with liz and mrs.johnson from 1966. i recently watched the scene with naomi,abigail and countess dupres and i'm always mesmerized by the virtuosity of that trinity. alexandra later joins joan,clarice and grayson in this episode and as lovely as she is she's totally outmatched by these thoroughbreds. she almost disappears.

of the scene during the quentin storyline one thing i love about that period is that after having handed the show over to adam and company for most of 1968 the core collins family reclaims their rightful place at the storyline's center. great stuff.

and really, what can one say about liz's leviathan dream? it defies accurate description. it truly must be seen to be believed. [santa_shocked]

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
« on: December 12, 2010, 06:24:55 PM »
i'm sorry but i'm not really seeing your point lydia,

david was not a real person,just a character,and the actor playing him was just reading lines given to him by the writers. thus the writers had acknowledged that the character,and the actor,were growing up. yet in the next storyline he was written as a "child" again.

i'm not seeing what's "unfair" about my remarks.

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
« on: December 11, 2010, 10:06:42 PM »
a few more words on the "sad plaid" suitcase and today's slideshow...

i read somewhere that budgets were so tight for the pilot episode that for the scene where vicki meets burke at the collinsport train station alexandra moltke and mitch ryan were asked to supply their own personal luggage. [santa_rolleyes]

in later years vicki tends to travel with the tiny blue suitcase that all the ingenue characters carry.

on to today's slideshow funny that during the leviathan episodes the writers acknowledged that david had indeed "grown up" and was a teenager only a few months later during the summer of 1970 storyline to have him revert to a "child" with a nanny and a playroom and a dollhouse. [santa_undecided]

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
« on: December 09, 2010, 03:40:41 AM »
i don't recall my whole commentary on the "sad plaid" suitcase but one poignant thing that comes to mind is that it was MONOGRAMMED.

i mean it's not like vicki went to louis vuitton and picked this up. so it's sort of bittersweet to think of her having this very cheap piece of luggage monogrammed with her initials. almost as if she was trying to prove to others,and to herself more importantly,that she did indeed have an identity. that she was someone.

another sad thought. that it was a gift to vicki from the foundling home's administration.

anyone trying to assess vicki's status via her worldly possessions(to paraphrase midnite "a handful of dresses,some ugly shoes",and this sad,cheap suitcase)would have an inaccurate view of her entirely.

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Sarah Collins
« on: December 06, 2010, 04:22:52 PM »
sarah was very tricky as a character and with a limited shelf life for one very big reason...

ghosts do not age and children,particularly at sharron smythe's age at the time,grow and change at a rapid clip.

just during the six or eight months she was on the program smythe grew alot. by the end of 1795 she looks much older than she did when her ghost first appeared in 1967. there's an early scene where sam picks her up and puts her on a stool to draw her picture and she seems tiny. by her final episodes she looks at least an inch taller.

besides by the time vicki was about to depart for 1795 she was so fed up with the lot of them that she left out of anger.

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
« on: December 06, 2010, 03:51:44 PM »
maggie abruptly goes from bright red to dark brown hair during this moment.

"ultra phantasmagorical" is certainly a colorful...and generous...way to describe this period on the series. i actually found these weeks to be so schlocky and juvenile as to be almost unwatchable.

the storyline was in it's last dying gasps but it wasn't going down without making alot of noise first. adam and nicholas were on their way out and with betsy durkin hanging around as vicki it was a very odd little moment.

but the show has a way of turning itself around and just a few weeks later the quentin storyline wiped the slate clean and returned the show to it's rightful self.

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
« on: December 04, 2010, 09:05:39 PM »
did liz ever actually WEAR that jacket or was it always over the shoulders?

funny that they just sort of drop the part of the plot that mrs.johnson hated the collins family and was just spying for burke. after the barnabas intro she becomes the devoted family servant but then nearly all the pre-barnabas plots get dropped.

i guess work is hard to find in collinsport.

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Current Talk '10 II / Re: Humorous moments in 1795
« on: December 04, 2010, 04:04:40 PM »
there's a scene early in angelique and ben's relationship where she asks him to do something and implies that he may get "a piece" so to speak as a reward and ben makes a brief move for her before she puts him off.

it's one of the very few times on the series where something of a sexual nature is even suggested(another being adam's attempted sexual assault of carolyn in 1968)even if it never comes to any sort of fruition as obviously the true nature of angelique and ben's relationship is quickly made clear.

but for a brief moment old ben probably thought a lowly servant girl was up for grabs. funny but for someone so wicked ang is actually pretty chaste. if anything she seems to want to be a good and loyal wife if that makes any sense.