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the red hair is unexpected but if it is heathcote in the pictures it must be victoria escaping...

since she's wearing "modern" clothing it can't be josette or any other eighteenth century character.

we were worried about blond...and relieved to hear brunette...but it never occurred to any of us vicki might be a redhead. [ghost_shocked]

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those sheets don't look like they're saffron yellow...

if the candles aren't all blue that will be a major change from the original! [ghost_shocked]

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backtracking a bit i guess if this ivan kaye fellow has been cast as joshua(and not one of "present time" actors)we're not getting the traditional "everyone in the past looks just like someone from the present" routine. also there's been no indication that vicki(or anybody else for that matter)will be "travelling" back in time to the year 1772. it looks like it's just a straight forward flashback for the film's audience to see.

the "collins cannery" certainly looks dilapidated. unusable as a business in fact. if collinwood itself is in such disrepair i guess the family is supposed to be in financial dire straights? i wonder why that decision was made? if so how do they afford to pay domestic staff like a governess and a groundskeeper/handyman?

so many mysteries!

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for what these stats are worth KLS appeared in 310 episodes.

grayson hall leaves the other ladies in the dust with 474 episodes. nancy barrett stands at 403. joan bennett at 391. alexandra moltke at 335. somehow lara parker ended up with only 269 although she seems like she's in much more. interesting barrett doesn't come up much in the "leading lady" category much despite being the second in appearances.

no other actresses come close to these totals. make of them what you will.

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oh and i've been rewatching the leviathan storyline and as flawed as it could be one thing i do enjoy about it is elizabeth stoddard's return to front-burner status after being sidelined for so long.

ice-queen levia-liz is impossibly chic(for some reason she's majestically jeweled and coiffed during this period)and fun to watch. love it!

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CB you make very good and legitimate points...

i agree that josette...at least in theory...is one of the most important components of the entire DS mythology. she was an important "presence" long before anyone had ever heard of barnabas collins and maintained that for the rest of the show's run.

but what i've always found striking about josette...and i've said this here many times...is that for her stratospheric prominence and association with the entire scope of the show we actually saw very little of her as a real character. she was only around for a couple of months.

so what i think KLS has done over the years is to manipulate that association to her advantage and retroactively engineer herself into the show's "leading lady". but she really wasn't. it was the idea, the legend, the ghost of josette that was featured on the series so prominently not KLS's portrayal of her.

most of her time she was playing maggie evans...not josette dupres...who was for the most part a supporting character despite a few moments of storyline(and fashion credit)prominence.

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i guess there are different ways of looking at things but i don't see KLS as "leading lady" of 1897 at all. she was absent for most of the storyline.

she only played rachel drummond for a few weeks before departing for an extended hiatus. she returned towards the end of the time period as kitty hampshire but again it was only for a few weeks.

the way KLS tends to spin the yarn the josette/barnabas/angelique triangle was the driving force behind most of the show's run but that's simply not true. actually barnabas spent most of his active time on the series pining away for vicki(the better part of two years) and of course later switched his allegiance to roxanne drew.

i will say again that after alexandra's departure she was certainly principle ingenue in residence. the "junior sophisticates" credit was quite a coup as well. [ghost_wink]

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KLS is a nice lady but something of a smooth operator...

over time she's engineered her association with the series and in particular josette dupres into slightly more than it actually was.

depending on the time period and storyline "leading lady" status was granted to alexandra moltke, joan bennett, grayson hall or lara parker. at it's best it was never KLS with the possible exception of the three months she played josette as an actual flash-and-blood character during the 1795 period. there it could be argued she was the "lead".

true she did receive an elevation in status when moltke left the program and maggie was brought in as collinwood governess, junior sophisticate and resident ingenue-in-distress. but otherwise it was strictly supporting.

but like i said she worked her time on the series into a very profitable business. [ghost_wink]

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i don't know much about ms. cody but she certainly has thrown herself into the fandom quite suddenly.

has she ever been involved before? wasn't last year her first festival?

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thanks for the link mysterious...

interesting article. although calling KLS the show's "lead" actress is something of a stretch. [ghost_wink]

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0019
« on: July 23, 2011, 07:38:55 PM »
in hindsight i always find the simplicity of maggie's life remarkable in these episodes considering what happens to her...and where she ultimately ends up...in later years.

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i was not aware that ms. scott had sold pomegranate press...

when did she sell? at the fest every year she's still seated at a table filled with pom press books so it seems like she still has an interest in those books selling.

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indeed miss scott likes to keep her association with DS front and center. so there's no way she'd allow something as juicy as this film go by without attempting to participate in some way...

i'll bet pomegranate press already has a book in the works. [ghost_wink]

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Spoilers
« on: July 22, 2011, 03:09:43 PM »
although it would not be possible to "condense the entire run of DS" into a single movie what remakes of the original series...be it the 1991 revival, or the 2004 pilot(which i haven't seen), or this film(given the plot synopsis we've been given)...seem to try to do is condense the highlights of the first year and a half or so into an understandable story.

the introduction of the main collins family, victoria's arrival at collinwood, willie's release of barnabas, the introduction of julia hoffman, a conjuring up of angelique and a taste of the backstory of the whole thing with some sort of flashback to 1795(or, in the case of this film 1772). that seems to be about as far as we can get given the perimeters of a two hour film or the first season of a television series.

they don't attempt to get into the post 1795 plotting during the introductory period. it's too complex. the adam/eve/nicholas blair stuff isn't mentioned. if given the opportunity it would appear that they would like to jump ahead to the quentin storyline. apparently the 1991 series was going to introduce that in season two but it was cancelled. the thing with quentin is that he's a PROTAGONIST. he dominates his surroundings and requires his own storyline for his character to be understood properly. he can't just be hastily written into the background of the barnabas storyline as a supporting player. that's why he wasn't in the 1991 series during the first season and that's why he's not in this film. if a sequel is produced he, and not barnabas, might be the highlighted character.

as far as the program's later, and often questionable storylines, like leviathans and parallel-time, i don't know if any future version of the show would even attempt to get into that or create new storylines.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Spoilers
« on: July 20, 2011, 01:42:42 AM »
it sounds as if burton is falling into the same trap lara parker did with her novel "the salem branch" also set in 1972...

a heavy reliance on the presence of "hippies". the "summer of love" was in 1967. woodstock 1969. by 1972 it was already becoming an outdated concept and the country was moving in other directions.

i'm assuming one of burton's main reasons for setting the piece here was stylistic concerns. it's strange he's getting this particular detail wrong.