Another DS 2012 star speaks -

thanks nancy. interesting remarks. [spoiler]some of the "spoilers" we've gotten thus far are promising some casualties. it would already appear that doctor hoffman bites the dust in the new film. so pfieffer's hope for sequels would imply that elizabeth makes it out alive.[/spoiler]

i actually find the storyline to be very imaginative. in fact i think it's the last truly original plot on the series before it starts to devolve into rehashes and retreads.

magnus i'd be willing to bet we come to DS for very, very different reasons and that's what's great about it. there's so much to take away.

for me the supernatural element is almost incidental. i'm not otherwise remotely interested in "the occult". i love the whole weird package. the sets. the music. the costuming. the actors.

for me DS is an atmosphere. an attitude. a mood. sometimes i care for the plot at hand more than others but i'm always sucked into the ambiance.

some of us come to the series for the vampires. others for the hairpieces and squat shoes. it's all fun.

i'm really enjoying this rewatch...

one thing i like about this storyline is that, for lack of a better word and in terms of DS, it sort of feels "normal". i like the atmosphere at collinwood.

"normal" of course is a relative term but what i mean is that there are not monsters coming out of the woodwork. it is largely about people and on DS after 1968 that is saying something. it is told with a slightly more "adult" sensibility than some other storylines.

yes there is a vampire and a ghost and whatever exactly angelique is here(a witch? sort of?) but there is not some overarching theme about a race of demonic creatures trying to take over the entire earth like there was during the later part of the adam storyline or the leviathan plot.

it's just about the crazy folks in the house up on the hill in their hairpieces and psychedelic prints. that's it. i like that about it.

carter's spoiler is much more of a plot twist than i thought would be revealed in the situation. i sort of regret reading it now.

[spoiler]still i'm not that surprised. this isn't a series remember. even though some sort of sequels have been suggested there's really nothing to prevent several characters from being killed off in this movie. it's not like they need to go back on air the next day. didn't we hear that angelique would die too? and even another character? i suppose that could be some sort of vicki/josette thing?[spoiler]

i highly doubt depp has the time for a sequel anyways. if it ends up being produced maybe it will focus on the younger characters.or perhaps some sort of quentin storyline.

definitely mixed messages(as usual)coming from this cast member...

it's a "soap opera" but also very "subtle" and hopefully "funny". that's alot going on.

nothing about the OS could really be construed as deliberately "funny" subjectwise. it was all pretty deadly serious. yes we could all chime in on a few droll drawing room scenes with roger and liz or julia at her most sardonic and say that it's "funny" but in general the tone was not comedic and we know it.

what COULD arguably be described as being "funny" as we all know is the series' much heralded "camp" value: the flubbed lines. the blatant teleprompter readings. the over the top performances. the dated costuming. the naive and technically primitive special effects.

THAT'S what carter seems to be channelling in some of her remarks about "really bad soap operas". we'll see. i'm still very excited and intrigued by it all but i think some serious camp is coming our way.

incidentally all of these remarks make most of the spoilers we read awhile back...which were quite serious sounding...seem increasingly unlikely. that's seeming like a fraud.

mysterious...

i see why you moved/merged the 'bazaar' thread into the main topic but unless i'm missing something the content of the post is gone.

it's unclear what i was talking about.

it looks like we've got an "inside man(or woman)" on the editorial staff at Harper's Bazaar...

the december issue has a "hot list" of 12 "need-to-know, must see, hear and read moments" of the upcoming year.

among such fashionable entries as a louis vuitton exhibit in paris, an elsa schiaparelli/prada show at the metropolitan, damien hirst and keith harring gallery exhibits in london and new york and most spectacularly a cecil beaton photography exhibit to celebrate the "diamond jubilee" of queen elizabeth ll's coronation at the victoria and albert museum in london is the release of DARK SHADOWS(we're number 10).  they even feature the cast photograph.

now that's some SWELL company we're keeping!