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Messages - michael c

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i think we should be extremely cautious about repeating a rumor (simply a reference edited by admin).

emotions are heightened enough as it is without incendiary gossip.

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i don't think the music used in a trailer even necessarily has to end up in a film soundtrack.

it's just capturing a mood. the barry white tune used in the DS trailer is just heightening the 1970's sensibility for the purposes of marketing.

i wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't even end up in the final soundtrack.

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hi penny,

i'm not going to get into an abstract conversation about "rights" but i think you're aware of how intense and unpleasant the conversation has become on other unmoderated forums.

it's not enough just to not care for it or even dislike it. it's hated with a virulency that borders on madness. on one board apparently anyone who says they like the trailer is a plant for tim burton. that's not exactly rational thinking, is it?

to paraphrase nancy one can express disappointment without throwing sanity and emotional stability out the window.

we're fortunate enough to post on a board moderated by two sane, reasonable people and in general populated by such. for that reason i only post here and occasionally a couple FB boards but that's it. the bits and pieces i've read elsewhere are too scary.

as far as the first part of the trailer in concerned i think we're just coming from different sensibilities. by nature i'm not a horror person. in fact my interest in DS in general is anomalous. otherwise i'm not remotely interested in "the occult". the barnabas and josette "my darling" stuff just felt stale to me.

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for what it's worth a coworker(who's only familiarity with the series in listening to me prattle on about it)saw the trailer and had an interesting observation...

that perhaps the culture is saturated with earnest, melodramatic and self loathing vampirism. of gloomy/romantic antiheros and their goth-chick girlfriends. that perhaps depp and burton have gone out on a limb and done something that feels fresher. he's excited for the movie.

while it's not necessarily what i expected or thought i wanted the more i watch the trailer the more i like it. try as i might i just can't muster any angst or betrayal. we have...and always will have...our "serious" DS. it's our little gem and cannot ever be replicated. so i'm fine with an amusing take on the situation. other recent "serious" offshoots of the series like the audiodramas are sour and dreary.

actually the first part of the trailer...the "my name is barnabas collins" and the josette stuff look leaden and dull. the later looks more fun. if nothing else the sets and costuming and art direction look fabulous. several of the performances great.

so if i'm not a "real fan" so be it. i'm looking forward to it. last night i watched the trailer 20 times. [snow_silly]

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true claude...

the fest always has a slightly unsettling "edge". by sunday i'm always ready to get the heck out of there. [snow_wink]

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i'm with nancy,

what's happening "out there" is scary. very gross and scary.

i can imagine with all the present unhappiness within this fandom the fest could have a very toxic atmosphere.

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i just thought of all of those new images of barnabas and mrs.butterworth at the breakfast table...

how is it that a vampire is able to appear at breakfast?

in earlier shots of barnabas walking around in broad daylight we assumed he was undergoing treatments with julia(which of course he might). but in this scene he is clearly being first introduced to julia("who the hell is this?")as well as the rest of the family.

hmmm.

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thanks nancy.

as always you're a voice of rationality in a conversation that quickly devolves into histrionics.

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Victoria's got Carolyn's hair-flip? Is that what that's called? I like it.

by 1972 the "flip" was decidedly passe. carolyn stopped wearing it in 1968.

so combined with the extremely girlish frocks i'm wondering if it's a deliberate attempt to make vicki look sort of "square"? or overly naive? or otherwise somehow not really "with it".

just thoughts.

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incidentally it is getting HIDEOUSLY ugly out there.

i've already been told off royally because i don't hate this trailer.

the next few months are going to be absolutely excruciating in this fanbase. anyone who doesn't hate this had better go into the federal witness protection program because "real fans" are going to come and kill you otherwise.

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if one looks closely when barnabas announced "i'm a vampire" he's seated before a fireplace...not at the breakfast table. the shot is just edited to make it look like he announces it to everybody.

if i could guess elizabeth knows. and julia. but nobody else.

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despite the fact that we've now been basically told that the film is a comedy i'm amazed at how UNFUNNY most of these stills look.

other than barnabas and mrs.butterworth at the breakfast table it really looks creepy and gothic. i'm so confused. [snow_huh]

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the pictures are absolutely stunning...

it's amazing what can be deduced just from looking at a few stills. who's IN certain pictures and who is NOT.

with no planned sequels(yet)i'm thinking not everyone in the cast gets out of this alive. look for the clues.

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penny,

as much as "we" love the series i don't think the film will affect the "public consciousness" of it either way because, unfortunately, as we know it is hardly a highly regarded work.

outside of fandom for even those who recall it with fondness it is widely regarded as a classic piece of high camp. or an old soap opera with a vampire.

i doubt the movie will change the public perception.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Spoilers
« on: March 15, 2012, 03:28:18 AM »
there has been chatter elsewhere that that old comic book chestnut...

[spoiler]roger and liz are a married couple as opposed to siblings is in the film. that i find impossible to believe. we've been told otherwise and liz and carolyn are named "stoddard" and roger and david "collins".[/spoiler]