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The original film is a masterpiece of course. It's hard to imagine a better (or equal) "Mrs. Danvers" to Judith Anderson, although I would expect Diana Rigg would have done the role justice, too (speaking of a BBC version I saw too long ago to remember very well).

I was really looking forward to last year's film of "My Cousin Rachel" after reading the excellent novel by DuMaurier, and the trailers looked very good. The more I read about that version, though, the less I wanted to see it, and never did. I learned about the book from catching the last 15 minutes or so of the Richard Burton-Olivia de Havilland film version which caught my interest, though I never watched the DVD after purchasing it a few years back.

I've never actually read "Rebecca," but I've heard that it is jarring and troubling by the end as far as the characters of Maxim and his wife, as is the case with "My Cousin Rachel."

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Calendar Events / Announcements '24 I / Collinwood Snow Globe
« on: November 18, 2018, 12:58:14 PM »
Has anyone purchased the snow globe from MPI? I'm wondering how accurate the model of Collinwood is, and who may have designed it. It looks quite good.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: The dark shadows of Rebecca
« on: October 13, 2018, 06:56:21 PM »
I also remember somewhere way back in time on this forum we discussed the parallels with "Rebecca," and I'd be willing to bet that mention of Collinwood burning was compared to "Rebecca."

MB, I've found as I get older that I sometimes make "discoveries" that I later find in older notes I had made before but had forgotten ...

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I caught a B&W movie from 1960 I hadn't seen or heard of before. Missed the beginning, but the onscreen TV guide listed it as "Horror Hotel." The imdb.com says that was the U.S. title. The original (British) title was "City of the Dead," I believe. Christopher Lee, always a favorite, was chillingly menacing as he sent a hand-selected student of his to her doom when he recommended a small New England town that she go to conduct research on witchcraft. There were many echoes or maybe even precursors of other films of this type. One could see the concept as similar to that behind "The Wicker Man," broadly speaking, and the innocent girl arriving in a small town with supernatural goings-on was of course the opening premise of our own DS with Vicki Winters. The town residents in robes accompanied by chanting and atmospheric music has no doubt been done countless times, but it was echoed about 8 years later in "Eye of the Devil." The haughty demeanored innkeeper seemed like a rehash of Mrs. Danvers from "Rebecca," and the cowered mute servant girl trying to help the heroine was a character type played by Sian Barbara Allen in "You'll Like My Mother" (a thriller, but not supernatural). The overall film structure also roughly paralleled that of "Psycho," and the discovery of the innkeeper's body toward the end was a nearly shot-by-shot copy of a scene from "Psycho." TCM host Ben Mankiewicz noted the similarities with "Psycho" in his commentary at the end but did not explain them other than to say that the source for "Horror Hotel" was an independent story and filming had begun on "Horror Hotel" shortly before filming began on "Psycho." A little online research shows, though, that "Psycho" was released in the U.K. several months before "City of the Dead," so they had obviously copied the "Psycho" scene rather than the other way around. Overall a movie well worth catching.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: DSF's Importance to Me
« on: July 21, 2018, 01:50:17 PM »
My former co-worker who retired a year and a half ago, had watched the entire original series not long before that with her brother, who had been diagnosed with prostate cancer. Her brother has since died, my friend retired and moved to a larger city nearby where she has rented an apartment in a Victorian home with a tower (same area I have talked about in the past). She e-mailed me recently that she has begun watching the series again from the beginning and will watch the entire series. Retirement has its perks! But I'm sure this current viewing has its melancholy associations for her, too.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: OT - Roma/Gypsy Heritage
« on: June 11, 2018, 04:57:57 AM »
Keep me posted, Gerard!  [ghost_mellow]

As I messaged to Gerard, it now looks like the Roma was on my mother's side rather than my father's, which actually seems like a better fit with respect to temperament, view of the world, etc.

- Philippe

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Speaking as a casual viewer with casual interest - I found the Stanley Kubrick version very effective as a film. I vaguely remember watching the mini-series when it aired and remember being irritated by the kid. The TV version did not have the impact of the movie.

But ... if I were more of a Stephen King fan and had read the book, I might have felt differently. I am usually a purist when it comes to movie adaptations of literary works, and usually wonder why the screenwriter(s) seem to think they know better when they make significant changes to a work. Such changes are rarely "improvements," IMO.

So when I read in the linked article that the character of the father was all wrong in the movie version, I sympathize. It seems like the role was conceived as an "off-beat, Jack Nicholson part," rather than King's story of an ordinary man slowly unraveling ...

I've been affected by the movie versions of "The Shawshank Redemption," "Delores Clayburn" (sp.), and the original TV version "Salem's Lot." All told really good stories (credit to King, there) and were done very well. But the only one I've attempted to read is "Salem's Lot." I may go back to the book some day, but with all the many characters depicted, the writing was too "popular fiction" for me, not enough depth. I can see where many readers would really like it and think I might have liked it better at a younger age. Not to knock it, and I do think King has come up with some remarkable stories.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: OT - Roma/Gypsy Heritage
« on: May 30, 2018, 03:49:53 PM »
Nice to hear from some long familiar names (if not exactly faces …)!

Gerard, it wouldn't be a great surprise if you had Romany ancestry. To tell the truth, I've never heard of the Galicia you speak of until I looked it up just now. (Not to be confused with the one in Spain.) With my background, discovering a Roma ancestor was something out of left field (though the gypsies have had a presence in Scandinavia since the 1500s so it wouldn't be impossible there, either). Even more unusual than the thought of European Romany ancestry, is the fact that this all goes back to India. I really can't picture having ancestors from India. The Roma are believed to have left India about 1000 A.D., but some historic postcards I found online from Auvergne show a gypsy couple who look like they could have just left India.

I might clarify that this is not my direct paternal bloodline (so probably no worry about curses …), though Mathieu is an ancestor on my father's side. I suspect that by his generation, he may have been only 1/4 Gypsy. (I'm actually descended from him twice, though, so got a double dose of DNA.) I guess the family members I've told about this think this is all so far back in the past it has nothing to do with them, hence their lack of interest. (Gerard, if you are ever interested in doing DNA testing, I would be happy to tell you what testing you would need that would allow you to confirm any Roma ancestry.)

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Current Talk '18 / OT - Roma/Gypsy Heritage
« on: May 29, 2018, 02:41:31 AM »
I'm posting this because if any of my friends might appreciate this, it would be Dark Shadows friends. I've met with only the mildest (to zero) interest from family members with the exception of my mother, who isn't actually affected by it. The subject of gypsies has come up many times on this forum, but I never dreamed I would have a personal connection to the Roma people. It's in the much distant past and I wouldn't want to overstate the case, either.

My genealogy pursuits in recent years have been supplemented by genetic genealogy, i.e. DNA testing. I'm no expert but I have given presentations and co-presented to genealogy groups on some basic aspects. Some results from testing have remained puzzling and it's easy to brush them off. One of these were filtered tests of my data that showed Spanish ancestry. Confident that I have no Spanish ancestry, I didn't pursue these curious findings for several years and only took another look at these results recently. They showed Basque, Andalucia, La Mancha, and a handful of other regions of Spain near the Bay of Biscay and along the French border. In my searches for what Haplogroups and subclades (more precise subcategories) these might include, I came upon an article from 2007 from a journal of genetic research that outlined 12 subclades that define the genetic profile of the Iberian (Spanish/Portuguese) Roma.

Almost in a spirit of following a lark, I began searching my data for each of these clades/SNPs (there is only one testing company that provides this analysis). Each one I checked for, it turned out I had – but the clincher was a specific subclade originating in northern India. For someone with Nordic and French heritage, that is hard to fathom. The administrator of this Haplogroup writes that in European ancestry, this subclade is found only in those with Roma heritage. So, yes, I have a gypsy ancestor somwhere, and more specifically one from Spain.

I've learned a lot about the Roma in the past several weeks, but have also found how much of their history remains a mystery – including in France. The DNA results indicate an ancestor within the last 450 years. Sounds like a long time, but my most likely ancestor was one from Auvergne in south central France who later migrated to the northeastern France of my great-grandfather. My seventh-great grandfather, he lived in the late 1600s and early 1700s. In the late 1580s, Spain decided to rid the country of the gypsies, and many likely fled into France. Within a couple of miles from my ancestor's home in the Clermont-Theirs region was a an area that seems to have been a refuge for the Roma. It is still found on some maps, and called "Bohemia," but in the Occitan form of the local language. A canon of the church living at the time of my ancestor and in the same city was also a poet who wrote sympathetically of the "Baumians," and I believe that this was an area where gypsies were safe for a few generations.

What has this to do with me today? Well, I still have a trace of his DNA. We don't have DNA from every ancestor – by 400-500 years we have too many ancestors to still carry DNA from each one. So I have inherited something from a Roma forebear - DNA, yes, but also a sliver of a heritage I never would have expected I had.

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Current Talk '18 / Re: Ron Sproat and Barnabas
« on: May 13, 2018, 05:26:14 PM »
I read through this thread at the end of April and was excited to see this topic revisited. But I thought I would read through my Word files saved from previous discussions about who created the character of Barnabas Collins before posting any comment. My file from a thread in April 2004 is 14 pages long and I began to feel a little bogged down and didn't remember all of the personalities involved precisely after - it doesn't seem possible - 14 years. The discussion began with a quote from Art Wallace saying he had created the character of Barnabas. There were some sharp comments, claims, and counterclaims. It all seemed too much of a muddle for me to reach any conclusions, let alone comment. More sharp comments were exchanged in an article posted some years later that I copied and dated "April 4, 2013" -- surprising how discussions about the creation of Barnabas seem to recur in April -- in which Mamorstein takes swipes at Ron Sproat and Joe Caldwell, with Caldwell responding in kind. Too bad the topic became so contentious. Some of the discussions among the various creators of the show may have been forgotten by others, or the memories of some became self-aggrandizing. Nothing appears to have been documented regarding the creation of Barnabas. It does seem that many contributed to the character in different ways. I will content myself with that thought.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '17 I / Re: Memories of Thayer David
« on: March 17, 2017, 07:19:05 PM »
These are vivid personal recollections of David Thayer, wonderful to read - thanks for sharing! Interesting that in his case he actually was something like the character we most identify him with - Professor Stokes.

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I completely missed this thread about Decades television when I posted the previous posts today. I did look through the Announcements page and didn't see anything there. Looks like I've been out of the loop for a couple of years regarding Decades.  [hall2_sad]

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Also, at the end of the credits after each episode is a new credit and logo I have never seen associated with "Dark Shadows" before: "CBS Television Distribution."

When the series aired on the SciFi Channel, the owner of the series seemed to be "Worldvision Enterprises."


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Current Talk '15 I / Dark Shadows Marathon on Decades TV Right Now
« on: October 30, 2016, 09:06:15 PM »
I discovered this by accident late last night and am sorry I haven't had the chance to post until now (mid-afternoon Sunday). A channel that must have been added in a recent cable upgrade, called "Decades," has had a DS marathon all day yesterday and through today, Sunday (October 30). I happened to catch this at the point where the Jason Maguire storyline was wrapping up, and then just before going to bed saw that a memorable aspect of the series had been reached with Barnabas hosting the costume party at the Old House, with the Collins family attending in the original clothes worn by their ancestors. Today the color episodes have been reached.

Thank you, "Decades" TV - it's exciting to see DS airing on TV.


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Funny, I don't seem to be familiar with "House of Dracula" from 1945. I've never cared for the original "Dracula" with Bela Lugosi, even thought the screenplay, I believe, was by John Balderston, who adapted a Henry James novel as "Berkeley Square." But I had read the novel at a young age and no movie ever came close to doing it justice.

I enjoyed revisiting two of the Lee Hammer Dracula movies on TCM, too, and hastened to make certain I had all of them on DVD (had to order "Scars of Dracula" and "Satanic Rites of Dracula" to complete my library.