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Current Talk '08 II / Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Pilot - Part 1
« on: September 18, 2008, 05:06:53 AM »
If you meant Chapter 5, could you please hold that thought until next week's discussion?  This week's episode completes the DVD's Chapter 4.

Oops, sorry about that - I'd forgotten that a viewing schedule was posted giving these guidelines ... I don't have printer capabilities at the moment, otherwise I would have printed it out to refer to.

About Elizabeth's accent ... perhaps Jean Simmons hasn't completely shed her own accent and this may be her own normal way of speaking.  No doubt she could do some kind of "American" accent, but it was probably decided that this "fit" the character because of her cosmopolitanism, education, etc.  Ben Cross's accent serves him well since Barnabas supposedly spent time in England.  But since he actually hadn't gone to England, then he must have decided to do his best approximation of an accent, which just happens to be indistinguishable from that of a native Britisher.

I agree, I always felt that Carolyn was presumptuous in calling Victoria "Vicki" before she even met her.  Like you, I have nearly always referred to "Elizabeth" and "Victoria" in my posts in the past; it seems more respectful.

I noticed Ben Cross's tan (or dark makeup) as well, and would have preferred a pasty vampire look in his early days out the tomb after 200 years.

Good going with the "Cross" comment, I hadn't thought of that.

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Current Talk '08 II / Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Pilot - Part 1
« on: September 15, 2008, 06:35:47 AM »
I rewatched "Scene 5" last night and thought it was well done ... but now I can't remember anything about it!  Except, does anyone else think it strange that Barnabas' coffin is so exposed?  Anyone walking down the basement stairs would easily see it, and why is it on some sort of pedestal?  You'd think it would have been hidden a little more out of sight.

Great line (though unfortunately I'm forgetting the entire line):  Mrs. Johnson:  "Barnabas Collins must be a wonderful man."


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Current Talk '08 II / Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Pilot - Part 1
« on: September 13, 2008, 08:37:49 AM »
I haven't finished watching the first episode yet with my new DVDs.  I quickly skimmed through Midnite's summarizing of missing scenes (which had been restored on the VHS release but not on the DVDs).  Wow!  I hadn't realized so much was missing when I began watching earlier this week - a few years have passed since I viewed the series on VHS.  Watching it now, I felt the pacing was good and tight ... but from some of the things Midnite wrote -- for example, Roger telling Elizabeth about his talk with David -- I would agree that much of the backstory and character development got cut before the pilot aired (and restored only on the VHS version).  I remember some of those scenes now from my earlier viewing of the VHS.

Reading other's comments, I find myself nodding in agreement with almost everything.  Then, when I read the next comment taking another view, I also say "uh-huh!"  There's so much here, though, I don't know where to begin ... so I'll try to finish watching and get back here tomorrow night.

The things I had been thinking about so far were as follows:

I like the DVD packaging with its portrayal of Collinwood (but not of Ben Cross - it looks silly).  I wonder what they used for Collinwood for the DVD cover - it looks more like computerized artwork than a real house, but it's very scary looking.  The brief glimpse I've had so far of the actual Collinwood of the series is that it looks fake (I know it's a model, and they put a lot of work into it, but it still looks like a model.  Wish they could have filmed a real house.)

The bats are scary - and, incidentally, are playing a role where I'm living now.  I've never lived anywhere where there were large amounts of bats - until now.  I wouldn't have known what the horrible sound was had not one of the movers told me "it sounds like bats out there."  There must be thousands.  As I left the clubhouse last night and was walking accross the green to my apartment just after dusk, I could see them flitting through the air.  When they fly they make only a few twittering sounds.  One of them brushed the top of my head.  It wasn't scary seeing how small they are - but at night when it's warm, I have to shut my bedroom window because they are so loud when they are in the trees.  It sounds like sort of a rubbery chomping.

Inside the DVD case, the picture of Vicki under the first DVD is really beautiful.  I think she was a nice choice to play Victoria.  I am finding Carolyn less irritating this viewing - in fact, I'm finding her attitude rather amusing.  Stay tuned, because I couldn't stand her when I first watched the series.

The scary scenes seem frightening in a realistic and violent way - like when Daphne gets attacked.  I'm not sure, I think I like a little more distance and unreality in my vampire movies.

Another thought was on the cropping of the top and bottom of the frame on the DVDs.  Something looks strange about it - it doesn't look quite the same as a widescreen movie, something about the composition of the shots.  I would have preferred the full frame as it was shot for TV.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to tell when the first episode is over.  I was surprised that there weren't any opening credits.  I've gotten to the scene where Barnabas says something like, "Father, I'm home."  I think the first episode on the VHS was about two hours but don't know how long it was in actual broadcast and on the DVDs.


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Merci!  I'll have to listen to these once I have my own internet service.  YouTube doesn't work on the public computer I'm using where I live.


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I don't recall that song from the show at all, though I recognize the title as coming from the poem by Robert Burns.

When did Jenny sing it?  Was it the same version as the one by the folk singer Eva Cassidy (whom I'm not familiar with)?  If the music was the same, was that appropriate for events taking place in the 1897 storyline?  Or is the song a traditional piece that was simply recorded by Ms. Cassidy?  Do the lyrics follow Burns' poem?  I know that Burns himself made use of old songs and poems that he heard in the Scottish villages.

Thanks for any additional insight anyone might have.

- Philippe Cordier


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I’m so glad I looked at this post because it provides the answers to questions I’ve had for years about the original Josette’s theme.  I don’t recall ever reading on this forum who had composed the original music box theme.  I found it a lovely piece that I’ve always wanted to hear again ever since I first watched the early episodes on SciFi.   Seven or eight years must have passed since then, and now thanks to the link posted here, I’ve finally been able to hear the original melody once more (somehow I never managed to get back to my videotapes).

I hadn’t realized that Robert Cobert had adapted his version from the first, but now listening to one after the other it’s obvious.  Thanks to Prof. Stokes for posting the information about the original piece.

Robert Cobern’s version is perfect - it’s a little more catchy than Farnon’s, but the first version works so well, too, and completely evokes an elegant lady’s music box.  The change from one to the other after several weeks of hearing the first Josette’s theme never bothered me.

-Philippe Cordier


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If anyone is contemplating getting the DVD set of the 1991 series, and you have a Target store in your area, you may be able to find it for less than anywhere else.  I just saw it at Target for $19-something, shrink-wrapped as a special with something called "Dark Angel" (which didn't look like it would interest me).  That seems to be a substantial savings over online outlets.  I'm assuming it's the same packaging and quality; it says it's the complete Revival series on 3 disks.

- Philippe Cordier (formerly "Vlad")

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After reading this post, I've decided I'd like to take part in the watching project.  It will be much easier, as someone else said, to follow through the complete run of the limited series than the other watching projects (which I haven't been able to participate in).  In fact, I hopped over to deepdiscountdvd and ordered the DVD set, which should arrive in time for the discussions.  I have watched the VHS version, but that was several years ago (hard to believe ... ).

I'm really looking forward to "talking" again with Victoria Winters and Cassandra Blair, among others, as well as more recent forum members.  I can already tell that this is going to be a high caliber group!  [ghost_azn]

- Philippe Cordier
(formerly "Vlad" - see other recent post for explanation of name change)  [ghost_smiley]



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I also would like to add that I love the new look of this board. I hope that I don't hurt anyone's feelings but that old brown look was not very attractive.

I found the last couple of color schemes difficult to read because of the dark colors and too much contrast with the bright letters.  The new color scheme is much easier on the eyes it's actually soothing when viewing the screen!  The blue scheme relates well to DS, too - it reminds me of the opening credits with the crashing waves!

I hope Taeylor will experience improvement in health.  I haven't been to the forum much in the last year or so and I haven't read any of your posts, but it's good to have people here who really care about the show.  Appearing to be a "fan" of an old TV show is not always going to impress others -- so it's good to find a community like this where people do share the same interest.

Being in a new location now where I don't know anyone makes this forum a comfortable place to return.  As I've entered a new phase in my life, I've also found I've outgrown my old forum name, "Vlad."  I've wanted to change it for a couple of years but my recent relocation and beginning a new chapter in my life seemed a good reason to finally follow through.  I've chosen the first name of "Philippe" in memory of my great (8th) grandfather in my paternal line.  And "Cordier" is similar to an old form of his (my) family name. 

It's really going to seem strange posting with a different onscreen identity, but the new name seems more appropriate now.

- Philippe Cordier (formerly "Vlad")


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DS can be a meaningful part of one's life.  In my experience, at times it has been one of the most important aspects of my life, and at other times less so - but it's always there in the background.  Interestingly, this has been the case both during highs and lows (employment, unemployment, etc.) - in other words, it's not just something to desperately cling to when life isn't so great.  How significant DS is often relates to the issue of time - illness, unemployment, and the like can mean one has more available time to devote to watching and discussing the series.

I've always wanted to increase the visibility of DS, too, with new movies and series.  But I'm thinking less that way now.  For many of us, DS was a special time during our childhoods that we can never go back to (unless we discover a stairway through time, or if the I-Ching really would work as it did for Barnabas ... ).  New versions will be something different from the version that has been part of our formative years.  In some ways, I'd like to keep that protected, safe, personal - for myself and for the devoted DS community.  I don't know that I'd like to see something that important and personal suddenly become faddish and popular all over again.  I'm satisfied with keeping DS a relatively small "sect," if you will  [ghost_smiley].

BTW, moderators, I absolutely love the new (?) look of the board - especially the color scheme an the lightning over Collinwood.

I've moved again and won't have my own Internet access for a while - but today I happily discovered that my apartment complex has a "business" center with free computer and web access!

Vlad


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Current Talk '08 II / Re: a REAL Dark Shadows music box?
« on: August 19, 2008, 06:03:06 AM »
I personally thought the "1991" music box was the prettiest.  I know I am probably among the few who did but it is just my humble opinon cousins!! [ghost_grin]

I thought that all the MPI music boxes were identical.  I don't remember what year mine is, or where it is right now.  It is cheapy looking to an outsider, but magical for those for whom its representation has resonant meaning.

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ProfStokes' announcement about a new book addressing parallel time and paranormal events on DS spurred me on to locate an article I had noted a few months back.

The article concerns inflationary cosmology, specifically "eternal inflation" or "chaotic inflation" theory as proposed by physicist Andrei Linde of Stanford University.

I think this article would be of great interest to such DS characters as the Parallel Time Quentin Collins (the one who built the stairway through time), Professor T. Elliot Stokes, and Count Petofi.

I'll include a couple of quotes below as well as a link to the article.

Quotes:

Inflationary cosmology has some jaw-dropping implications: that ours may be but one universe in an
eternally self-replicating “multiverse”

. . .

“Instead of a universe with a single law of physics, eternal chaotic inflation predicts a self-reproducing,
eternally existing multiverse where all possibilities can be realized,” Linde says.

Eternal inflation predicts that in some other universe, you are reading this article right now.
Not someone like you with a different haircut or middle name, but you, or at least a person who is
entirely indistinguishable from you. Not on another planet like Earth, but an exact replica of Earth.
This is the power of an infinite ‘multiverse,’ as emphasized by physics professor Alex Vilenkin of Tufts Univesity.
In yet another universe this article is in German, in another you just today found the cure for cancer,
figured out how to travel faster than light, and discovered the secret to immortality.


End of quotations.

Link to complete article:

http://www.stanfordalumni.org/news/magazine/2007/novdec/features/universe.html


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Congratulations on writing the book's preface, ProfStokes!

A book on these topics seems overdue.  It should enhance our appreciation for the time-travel and paranormal aspects of DS.

I've been meaning to post some brief experts from an article I read concerning parallel universes, which I've managed to track down once again.  But I'll post that elsewhere for discussion.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: 1840 storyline....love it or hate it?
« on: April 13, 2008, 07:52:43 PM »
Magnus Trask, MB, and Midnite - among others - have provided good (and convincing) explanations for many of the criticisms of the 1840 storyline.  Too me, 1840 was the most complex and therefore one of the most compelling and challenging storylines.

Complaints about loose ends, inconsistencies, or lack of explanation are par for the course for the entire series, so I don't see why some commentators single them out for the 1840 storyline. Perhaps there are more unexplained events in 1840, but if so, these just intrigued me further.  In fact, I've said in the past that I think the DS writers consciously left loose ends and ambiguities, which I think is one of the distinctive aspects of DS as a whole that give it texture and interest (not to mention longevity).  I'm not one who needs everything spelled out or wrapped up in a neat package.

A few years back I ranked all of the storylines, and although that's a somewhat artificial exercise, I chose 1840 as my favorite, followed by 1775 and 1897.  Despite this, the introduction of Barnabas is also a favorite, as is ... well, I could go on and on.  If I remember correctly, 1971 PT was my least favorite, but there are aspects I'm passionate about in every storyline and things I find to dislike in each of them too.

Here's a list of some of my favorite things that come to mind about 1840.  I won't be able to elaborate on them now.  However, a few days ago, before I saw this post, I came across a printout of a commentary I made on the 1840 storyline a few years ago, which includes some aspects not mentioned above.  I hope to retype and post that soon.

Like others, I loved the stairway through time.  I hope to make a post soon about parallel universes and our lives that may exist in them according to the theories of a reputable physicist at Stanford.

A few things I liked about 1840:

Ben
Gabriel
Desmond
Flora (elsewhere I've argued that she must have been born Flora Magruder)
Gerard
Tad & Carrie
Rose Cottage
Flora Collin's house
The complexity of the puzzle beginning with the Summer of 1970

- Vlad

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Current Talk '08 I / More DS Inspired by "The Twilight Zone"?
« on: March 13, 2008, 06:16:00 AM »
In mythology, Pygmalion is a sculptor who falls in love with his statue of a beautiful woman, which comes to life.

The idea has inspired many other works, including "My Fair Lady," a scene in Shakespeare's "A Winter's Tale," and an episode of the Twilight Zone that I saw recently on the SciFi channel, "A World of His Own" (1960).  In the "Twilight Zone" episode (which is excellent) a playwright, played by Keenan Wynn, has his creation, a lovely young woman, come to life.

In "Dark Shadows," Charles Delaware Tate has similar powers - Olivia Corey began life as a painting (if I remember correctly).  I used to be very impressed by how widely read the DS writers seemed to be.  Stepping back just a little from that view now, I wonder if they simply came up with this concept from seeing the "Twilight Zone" episode.

OK, I won't go that far.  The DS writers do seem to have been well read.  In this case, though, it seems possible that someone on the DS creative team might have had their memory of the Pygmalion story jogged by seeing the "Twilight Zone" episode, and then thought the same thing could work on DS - which it did.