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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / Re: "The Uninvited"
« on: April 04, 2002, 03:24:59 AM »
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Love that movie am going to check my listings now but isn't SCiFI the same throught the country!!



I would have thought so, but from what others are saying, apparently not!

I checked the TV listings in my local newspaper today, and now it says that there is "PAID PROGRAMMING" in that time slot.  (Probably one of those ab tighteners.)

Then I checked TV Guide online, and it said the same thing.  Then I did a search in TV Guide online for "Uninvited," and in my area it's now scheduled to show at 2 a.m. on Friday, April 5.  I'm trying to figure out if that means "late night Thursday" or "late night Friday."

?!?

I kind of doubt the video stores here have it.  The "Blockbuster" store carries mostly just that -- "blockbusters" -- the latest tripe, in other words.




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Current Talk '02 I / Re: The Very Detailed Family History Book
« on: April 03, 2002, 03:50:01 AM »
I was wondering about all those things, too.  I know that Vicki was very interested in the family history, though, and especially in Josette, so she might have learned some of those things, and it wasn't shown on the series.  I did wonder whether Barnabas had told her some of these details.

Yes, she should have immediately realized that the ring that Countess Dupres described was Barnabas'.

I thought Victoria was actually coming across as a bit more mysterious -- even witchlike -- in that scene.

What I've wondered (and others have no doubt mentioned elsewhere) is how she does NOT seem to be aware of any of these deaths until suddenly right before they're supposed to happen.  You'd think that once she realized that she had been catapulted into the past that she would have studied that Collins Family History line by line!

On the other hand, maybe she DOES know which characters (I mean family members) are destined to die, but for various reasons has not said so.  But that's not too in keeping with Victoria, who tends to blurt things out without too much thought!




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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / OT - "Forever Knight"
« on: April 03, 2002, 03:41:36 AM »
I was excited to see that SciFi is now airing "Forever Knight."  I used to catch it late-nights when it originally aired on one of the major networks some years ago.  At that point, I had never had cable, so I hadn't seen DS as an adult (except for half a dozen episodes I saw whilst living in California, when it was airing on a PBS station).  Consequently, I was "vampire-starved," and "Forever Knight" got my blood rushing ...

As I viewed most of the episodes yesterday (having returned home early because of a snowstorm, and having made it without serious harm despite my car sliding down a hill sideways ... followed by another car that came down backwards ... a near-miracle that we didn't hit any other vehicles) I found it not quite as good as I had remembered ...

It seemed to me that the last episode that aired in the chain-reaction was the best, which showed how Lacroix had become a vampire in ancient Egypt (was this pre-Anne Rice?), and I found that episode especially good because you learned more about the AMBIVALENT (my favorite word lately) relationship between Nick and Lacroix.

Does anyone know whether these were the first 12 episodes of the series?  I haven't seen the first episodes yet that SciFi aired yesterday, but have it all on tape.

:o




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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / "The Uninvited"
« on: April 03, 2002, 03:27:27 AM »
Luciaphil recently called this movie to our attention.  It's supposed to be a classic film about a haunting that inspired certain aspects of DS.

Now, I noticed in my TV schedule that SciFi is scheduled to air "The Uninvited" late-night this Wednesday (actually early Thurs. a.m., at least where I live).

I can't wait to see it!  Set your VCRs ...

Now all I have to look for is those movies Gothick mentioned, which I had never heard of, and that Two-Headed Thing that wouldn't Die or whatever it is ...

::)


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Current Talk '02 I / Angelique: Terrorist? ... And Other Thoughts
« on: April 03, 2002, 03:19:48 AM »
Now that I'm recovering from my near-heart attack after receiving an e-mail message from the administrator that I had been removed from the board (were my comments on the supernatural really THAT controversial?), I've decided to REALLY push things ...

(I was relieved to find the thread saying that the same thing had happened to others, but my heart is still pounding ...)

Actually, my title for this thread is mainly an attention getter  ... While it MIGHT be an interesting topic to debate in light of current world events, I fear that such debate would not be healthy for this board ...

So, I RESTRICT my comments to this sense:  Is Angelique a terrorist, in a non-political sense?  In other words, does she seek to terrorize, cower, and strike at innocents without mercy or conscience to get what she wants?  Whether or not she has a legitimate gripe, does that justify her actions?  Oh boy, that actually probably could serve as a definition for a political terrorist.  Let's just keep the discussion from veering into current events and mention of specific nationalities or peoples ...

One might argue, on the other hand, that in Josette's case, at least, Angelique might actually be doing Josette a big favor -- Josette will not become one of the cursed undead.

Other comments upon viewing yesterday's excellent episodes ...

Strong acting by Grayson Hall as Countess DuPres.  In fact, I think this is some of the best work she has done in the series up to now.  She seemed very natural and real in her concern for Josette, her suspicions, her fears.

Louis Edmonds was superb, which isn't too surprising.

Has Vicki been visited by an Avon saleswoman in her jail cell?  It looked like she had had a makeover.  (Hope I'm not encroaching on Luciaphil territory here ...   ;)  )

Three clues ... I think these were 1) a lost ring, 2) the sound of glass breaking, and 3) a storm ...

I love the tension that this builds, but as those who have seen the complete series know, the tension will be much more prolonged when even more interesting clues are presented in the 1897 storyline ... and there'll be a further twist of the screw when we get to 1840, when the ingeniously devised clues even cross the centuries ...

A sense of hopelessness in the face of fate ... that's a feeling that I realize DS often gives us.  No matter what the characters do, if something is fated, it can't be stopped.  (Oh, there will be a breath of relief, of optimism, at a couple of pivotal points in the last few months of the series ...)

It makes me think:  would I want to know future events that may be in store for me?

Vlad



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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Joshua and Naomi
« on: March 30, 2002, 02:37:17 AM »
Midnite, thank you for the instructions on quoting from more than one post.   :D  (You'll note I DIDN'T quote/recopy your entire response directly above this in this post!   ;D )

I did transcribe the opening scene between Joshua and Naomi from the episode where she informs him about Sarah's death.  However, I'm on a public computer with a 15-minute time limit, so I'm not able to transcribe the dialogue now.  Upon viewing the scene again, I noticed that it was much more dialogue between the two characters than I had thought (rather than a "soliloquy" by Naomi).

However, I do feel that my impression was correct about the poetic language in this scene.  It was the heightened language of tragedy.  Perhaps that was introduced in this scene because it is the most tragic event yet to befall the Collins family.

In particular, Naomi's concluding line of the scene scans as iambic pentameter, the meter used by Shakespeare.  I'm unable to reproduce scansion marks here, but will use CAPS instead of the accent.

She's GONE -- / SAR-ah / -- our LIT- / -tle GIRL / is DEAD

(with the substitution of a trochee [?] in the second foot.

Many of Joshua's lines also scan in perfect iambic form.

(No time to reproduce here)

I believe the dialogue in this scene was deliberately crafted to evoke this heightened sense of drama, and that Bennett and Edmonds were conscious of it.


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My own experience is very similar to Donna's.

I tend to be a skeptic, especially when it comes to TV psychics, faith healers, etc. An early hero of mine was Houdini, who effectively debunked the "mediums" of his day (showing how they secreted "ectoplasm" in various body cavities, for example, that the "spirits" then produced). I am especially angered by those who prey on the grieving, though in some ways I think the "victims" get what they want.

On the other hand, I've had a handful of experiences (usually accompanied by a "weird" feeling, like Jennifer mentioned) that made me feel that there is more to our life experience than meets the eye.  (I would describe the "feeling" as similar to what you feel in a deja vu experience.)  I later read about hypnogogic hallucinations (apparently not uncommon; waking up paralyzed, with an awareness of a spirit presence in the room), which matched one of my experiences to a "T"; so I can't discount psychological explanations entirely even for my own experiences.



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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Joshua and Naomi
« on: March 29, 2002, 04:03:12 AM »
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I am still surprised not to have seen a topic for the amazing scene between Louis and Joan where they discuss the death of their daughter, Sarah.  I believe the scene played at the beginning of the first episode yesterday (Wed.)  It's the one where Joan has the line about the little bird she heard singing at dawn.  The scene is absolutely heartbreaking



The episode aired yesterday.  I viewed it late last night when I finally got home.  I wanted to post something about it, but this is my first shot at a computer.


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the expression of devastation on Joshua's face is still with me years after my viewing of it.  A wonderful moment between the two of them, and I defy anyone to watch this and claim Joan Bennett wasn't a great actress.



I thought the words of her soliloquy were lovely, though I also found her recitation to sound a bit like ... a recitation.  (Which is not to say that I haven't found Joan Bennett to have some very, very good moments in the series.)

(I was going to quote something from someone else's post here, but it looks like you can only quote from one post per response  ?!? .)

I made a note to check on who wrote that episode when I get home tonight. Whoever it was wrote lines that sounded positively Shakespearean. In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the lines scanned as poetry.

If I haven't taped over the episode, I'll try to transcribe her speech and post it here. (But I won't have computer access again till next Tuesday night, and this topic will be long buried by then ...)

In the meantime, some lines from Shakespeare that Naomi might well have spoken:



Grief fills the room up of my absent child,
Lies in his bed, walks up and down with me,
Puts on his pretty looks, repeats his words,
Remembers me of all his gracious parts,
Stuffs out his vacant garments with his form:
Then have I reason to be fond of grief.


(Constance in King John, 3.4.92)




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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Sarah's Death
« on: March 29, 2002, 03:39:50 AM »
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Would have been nice to see the ghost of Sarah again in present day, but then again she did say at the seance she was returning to her own time and would never appear to any of them again. I would expect David to mention her once in awhile though, especially to Amy.



Forgetting (or at least not referring to) events of the fairly recent past seems to occur frequently on DS.  I'm assuming this is fairly standard for "soaps."  The story moves on, new viewers tune in ...

It tends to make the show less real, more in its own world.




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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / DS and Real-Life Supernatural
« on: March 28, 2002, 04:36:29 AM »
All of these old interviews we've been lucky enough to read made me think that, in all of the interviews with DS personnel I've read over the years, the only person connected with the series I know of who has expressed a belief in the supernatural is Diana Millay. Specifically, Frid, Edmonds, and Parker and perhaps others have disavowed any belief in it.  

That might surprise some fans of the series, even though we know - hopefully [goofg] -  that they are actors playing a part in a fictional drama. [roll3]  Still, it is a bit surprising , given the reputation of actors for being superstitious, that more of the DS actors were not believers in the supernatural.   I wonder if that's true of the writers as well.

On the other hand, I'll bet the fan base is quite different from the actors in this regard.  [sconf]  Any thoughts?


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Current Talk '02 I / Re: 1795 as a Greek Tragedy
« on: March 28, 2002, 04:25:41 AM »
Interesting comments about "Medea," Nicky. "Medea" is probably my least favorite of the Greek tragedies I'm familiar with, though that could be due to the production I saw of it a few years ago; it wasn't a play I had read previously, so perhaps I'd have a more favorable opinion upon reading it.   ;D

I'd be interested to read that paper you wrote on Greek tragedy and mythology!   :D  I don't recall the plays I read all those years ago as deriving from mythology per se (but rather, the Trojan War, Oedipus, the Bacchanals, etc.), but this could be an aspect of the tragedies I was unaware of (or am forgetting).

I agree with your comments about Angelique--at times you think no one could be more sadistic, and then you'll see another side to her character.  At this point in our viewing, I can't believe that I eventually felt she and Barnabas really did love each other by the end of 1840, I think it was.  

Creating that ambivalence within the viewer toward her character was a brilliant move, whomever was responsible.


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Current Talk '02 I / Re: More 1795 Comments
« on: March 27, 2002, 06:23:41 AM »
I had wondered about Angelique accepting the money from Joshua this time round, but as you've explained, circumstances were different with this offer, and her decision does make sense.  It's especially jarring that she's killed shortly afterward.

Just had to add a note about the "Moveable Cemetary."  The Eagle Hill cemetary where David used to meet Sarah's ghost was some distance away (I had the feeling it was about a mile) from Collinwood in 1967.

But in 1795, it apparently is right outside the front door of the "New" house, as Sarah runs out the front door after spotting Barnabas, and presto! she's in the middle of the cemetary, just steps away from the Collins mausoleum!

 ::)  ::)  ::)

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: 1795 as a Greek Tragedy
« on: March 27, 2002, 06:16:28 AM »
I'll definitely be scouring the TV listings for those movies, Luciaphil!  Thanks!   ;D   ;D   ;D

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Louis Edmonds and Frid Q&A 1991
« on: March 27, 2002, 05:48:27 AM »
Thank you for posting these, Nancy.  

I think that mfmiozza may have posted these interviews on the old VN board; at least on quick perusal this one sounds familiar -- I know I have it printed out somewhere among stacks and stacks of papers, but it's good to have them available again.

I've always felt that Mr. Frid would make a fascinating dinner guest!

BTW, I haven't heard anything about the biography of Jonathan Frid that was supposed to be published not long ago.  Has anyone read it?  I spoke with the woman (Malia Howard, I believe her name is) who wrote it when I was at the Festival in NY in August, but I didn't pre-order a copy.  Now I wish I had, as I had the money then but don't now!



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Current Talk '02 I / Re: More 1795 Comments
« on: March 22, 2002, 06:29:14 AM »
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An observation made in the episode where "Rev." Trask arrived ...

This was the first time I noticed that you could really see outside the front entrance of the Old House ... maybe it was the camera angle or something ... but anyway, you could see the wide front portico and its pillars beyond the front door.  

In other words, the view DID correspond with the outside shots we have of the old house.  There must be steps going up to the portico in front, just as in the slides!


More recently (i.e., when Trask was exorcising "the witch"), a large hedge seems to have been planted right outside the door, on the portico!

Could it have been in a moveable planter, I wonder?  Strange that landscape work should have been done when the family had already moved to the new house!