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I'm breaking my self-imposed (temporary) exile again, only to let people know that the movie "The Fall of the House of Usher" airs tonight on AMC at 11:40 P.M. E.T. (But beware -- AMC's times are often approximate.)

I think there were a few people who were interested in this and other Poe adaptations.  "House of Usher" is supposed to be one of the best, and there's also the DS connection ...  In one of the first couple of episodes of the series, Carolyn (in that fakey high-pitched voice she was using at the beginning) welcomed Victoria to "The House of Usher."

This was one of my favorite Poe stories and I can't wait to see what the house looks like.

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Angelique's return
« on: May 10, 2002, 02:27:59 AM »
She did die in 1795, and she is not a ghost.

In one of yesterday's episodes Julia told Vicki that if Cassandra is Angelique, she's not a ghost -- she's flesh and blood.

I believe Angelique physically resurrects, though she has the ability to slightly alter her appearance (e.g., her hair).*

At a later point in the series, Angelique taunts the imprisoned Victoria with the fact that she is flesh and blood.  The scene parodies one of the resurrection scenes of Jesus recounted in the gospels, right down to the specific language.

We don't know just when she resurrected herself (through Satan's power) as Cassandra, but it may have been fairly recently, allowing enough time for her to scope out the current Collins family before springing her plan ...
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*And physical mannerisms -- see my "Kitty Cassandra" post.  Altering one's physical mannerisms is NOT an easy thing for anyone (other than a trained actor) to do.

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Current Talk '02 I / "Kitty" Cassandra
« on: May 10, 2002, 02:15:36 AM »
I know I said I wouldn't be posting here for a while, but I'm just going to sneak in for a minute.  After all, it's not every day that Cassandra Collins arrives on the scene!

And what an entrance (and impression) Lara Parker makes as Cassandra!  I vaguely remember finding her entrance thrilling in my childhood viewing -- though I was too little to realize (until another kid pointed it out) that this scary new lady was really Angelique.

Maybe that isn't as unobservant as it might sound, because what I notice now are some subtle changes that Lara Parker gives Cassandra, differentiating her ever so slightly from Angelique.  

Many of us have highly praised Nancy Barrett's versatility in creating a host of different characters during the course of the show, but I think we may have somewhat overlooked Ms. Parker's abilities in this respect.  Her role as an actress on the series was more limited than Ms. Barrett's since the only character she played besides Angelique (and Angelique alter-egos) was the heroine (Catherine) in 1941 PT.  If her Cassandra is any indication, Ms. Parker had more potential for creating different characters than she was able to realize on the show.

Specifically, I'm thinking of her mannerisms as Cassandra.  Cassandra seems to have an even more single-mindedly evil streak than Angelique, if that's possible.  There's an intensity about her that surpasses Angelique, a conniving manner that ripples barely beneath the surface at every moment.  Her movements are catlike.  In her scene with Elizabeth, she seemed like a tigress eyeing her prey and barely restraining herself from pouncing.

LP's feline mannerisms remind me of another actress I admire, Ann-Margret, who has subtly mimicked feline movement in her mannerisms in several of her more predatory roles (and I'm not talking about "Kitten With a Whip")!.

Even Joan Bennett seemed unnerved playing under LP's relentless focus, as the veteran actress fumbled repeatedly for lines.

Grrrrrrr ...  Or should that be "Meow"?


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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Converted Characters!
« on: May 09, 2002, 02:12:00 AM »
I like your avatar's caption, Happybat!

Nƒ¤kemiin!

:)




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Current Talk '02 I / Vexing Questions from Yesterday's Eps
« on: May 09, 2002, 01:52:10 AM »
Hmm, would you want to look like Jeff Clark if it meant you would be normal (or is that immortal?)?

Is Dr. Lang's home a duplex, or divided into town homes or condominiums?  I was puzzled the first time when Julia apparently had walked right into the house and knocked outside Dr. Lang's door, which opened into a hallway.  Then yesterday I noticed that there's a nameplate reading "Dr. Eric Lang" on the outside of this door.  Maybe this is just an office in his home where he sees patients ...

... And offers to give them electorcardiograms when they say they think they're going to have a stroke ...

Dr. Timothy E. Stoke's home also appears to be an apartment, but I was never sure ... people walk right in there, too, and his door opens into a hallway ...

Angelique's portrait ... does anyone find it as alluring as Roger does, with that sort of Mona Lisa smile ...?  Was any mention made of when Angelique had this painted, or did she just conjure it up?  My guess would be that she had it commissioned shortly after Josette's portrait arrived on the scene in 1795 ... though I think it has been pointed out in the past that she's in servant's garb rather than dressed like a lady ...

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And this will have to be my last post until the week after next, so that I can complete two projects ...  Administrators have my permission to disable my account to prevent me from returning in that time ...  ;D


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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: Signature Lines
« on: May 08, 2002, 03:44:57 AM »
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I've upped it a bit. See if that's enough.


Thank you!  I'll see next time I change my quote.  Most of the others I have waiting in the wings are a bit shorter, but I'm sure I'll eventually find something lengthy again ...



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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Leaving the Past
« on: May 08, 2002, 03:40:23 AM »
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Yes, the exterior of the house that Vicky loved so much was seen once during that storyline, but it was not the same exterior as Dr.Lang's residence.


Thank you for clarifying this, Cassandra. Perhaps I saw that one shot of the House by the Sea during my first viewing, because for some reason it has been haunting me and I wanted to see it again.  But I definitely missed it with this current run.

Another DS house that resonates with me is Rose Cottage.


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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / Tomb of Ligeia, Continued
« on: May 08, 2002, 03:37:25 AM »
I had trouble when I searched for the previous thread by this title. I was supposed to enter something about my previous age and my maximum age since last posting, which I couldn't figure out.  Then I went to my profile page and that usually has something at the bottom of the page where you can search for the posts that person has made, but that wasn't there this time -- that may have had something to do with the page taking five minutes to load, so I finally hit "Stop."  Since I wasn't sure if the page had fully loaded, I hit "Refresh" and then got a blank page.  I tried backtracking to my previous page and that made me leave ds boards.  So I closed my Explorer browser and brought up the Netscape browser.  I was surprised to see I was still logged in, but when I tried to begin a new topic, it asked for my user name and password, as if I wasn't logged in.  So I decided to log in (again?), began a new topic, and there was no box to write the message in!  There was only a tiny box about the size of a small "o," but square.   >:(

So now I've gone back to the Internet Explorer browser, brought up dsboards, and it looks like I'm already logged in ... ::)

Boy, I better have something important to say after all that ...

All I wanted to mention was that I was finally able to view the movie "The Tomb of Ligeia," which was recommended by Darren Gross (I hope that's his last name; if not, I don't know where I came up with it ... I seem to have a problem remembering names of characters, actors, and posters ...).  Darren mentioned the movie as having inspired the Angelique/Alexis part of the 1970 PT storyline,  I think it was.

Although I don't remember that aspect of the storyline well enough, I could vaguely see the connection, at least if Angelique had "willed" herself to live even after death.  I think this may have been the point of the original Poe story, too, having quickly glanced at it last night (I know I read it years ago, but don't remember it).

There didn't seem to be as many parallels between this movie and DS as there were between "The Haunted Palace" and DS, but I found "The Tomb of Ligeia" to be infinitely superior.

The movie is gorgeously filmed on the actual site of a ruined abbey, with lots of interesting camera work and subtle performances.  I don't know if it was due to my lack of sleep or not, but this was one of the most confusing and puzzling movies I've ever seen -- very intellectually engaging!  I'm not sure I entirely figured it out, but I definitely want to watch it again.

I would definitely recommend it to anyone who likes the 1970 PT storyline (though that's one of my least favorites) and is interested in exploring its connection with this movie.

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Converted Characters!
« on: May 08, 2002, 03:03:03 AM »
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In a way Gerard Styles is a very tragic character:  as you say, he starts out as Quentin's friend, then becomes a shady opportunist, and "regresses" to someone truly evil but only while possessed by Judah Zachary.  

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Maybe you can classify Gerard as an instance of a character that changes more than once - four times, to be precise, if you assume that he started out as being Quentin's good friend.    


I think it's questionable whether Gerard Stiles was ever really "Quentin's good friend."

The Nancy Barrett character who knew him from way back said that the Gerard she knew was "an opportunist," but not a murderer (or whatever).  (Your use of "opportunist" was the exact word Nancy Barrett used to describe him, Happybat  :) .)  However, even she may not have known about his other identity as Capt. Ivan Millar, a pirate, long before he met Quentin.  I would tend to suspect the motives of such a ruthless and unprincipled character as that, especially when he's befriending someone from as prominent and wealthy a family as Quentin Collins!

-Vlad


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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Converted Characters!
« on: May 07, 2002, 05:31:31 AM »
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Vlad,

With regards to Gerard, he did befriend Quentin and the Collins family in the beginning. Correct?



Under rather suspect circumstances, yes.  It appeared from the beginning that he had his eye on Samantha the moment he arrived at Collinwood.  And the circumstances surrounding the supposed deaths at sea of Quentin and his son (sorry, I can't remember all these names the way others on this board do!) were also suspect.

As I said, the best that was said about him was that he was a 'hustler," (I know that isn't the term, but I can't think of it offhand) -- and that was by a good friend and associate (whose name I can't remember name offhand either -- the Nancy Barrett character).

The fact that he was involved in illegal shipping activities -- pirating -- under a different name (Captain someone) tells you something about his character.

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However, I do agree with you about the TLATKLS's Rachel Drummond. The criticism of the character may be due to a lack of understanding on the part of the individual(s).


Yes, Rachel Drummond was a classically Victorian character, basically an example of the Victorian ideal woman -- chaste, pure, innocent, naive.  KLS's performance was exactly on target.


Luciaphil asked:
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I'm curious, Vlad.  Could you elaborate on why you think she was a successful character?

I'm one of the critics--I always thought she was really very thinly drawn on the part of the writers.  



In the context of my comments, I meant that this was one character who remained true to type -- i.e., Rachel Drummond did not have a ridiculous turnaround as a Handmaiden of Count Petofi.

I also said (or meant) that I thought this was one of KLS's best performances, aside from Maggie. Much better than her Josette du Pres -- she had much more of a period feel for this character, e.g. her posture and manner; and IMO her acting presented the character perfectly, without some of the infelicities that cropped up in her later performance as Lady Hampshire.

I grant that Rachel Drummond may not be as complex a character as the other two (i.e., Josette and Kitty), so maybe the simplicity of the character ("innocence") was easier for her to play, I don't know.  But I found her more believable in the role and well-suited to the period.

-Vlad

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Converted Characters!
« on: May 07, 2002, 02:51:08 AM »
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SPOILER........
There is also Gerard Stiles (another good to evil character) due to possession by Judah Zachery.


I might question this one, VAM.  Gerard Stiles wasn't exactly what you'd call a "good" or "nice" man even before he became possessed by Judah Zachary. Remember, he also used an alias and was involved in pirating!  The "Nancy Barrett" character in that storyline charitably referred to him as a "hustler" or some such (I know that wasn't the term used, but something like that) but claimed he wasn't evil.  Even that characterization of him is somewhat questionable, though, IMO.

My vote for one of the most dramatically changed (and least believably changed) characters is the servant Beth in 1897.  Her switch from sympathetic, caring maid to handmaiden of the dastardly Count Petofi was hard to swallow.  I suspect it had less to do with her intrinsic character and more to do with the decision to extend the 1987 storyline (too much so, IMO).

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Great topic, Cassandra!  I, too, am glad that some of the characters changed for the better (such as Mrs. Johnson and Carolyn), as you mention.

And even that a good, pure, innocent character, Rachel Drummond, remained true to her character (a very Dickensian character, much criticized on this forum, but that's another story ... though I'll just mention that I think it was KLS's most successful character other than Maggie).

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Signature Lines
« on: May 07, 2002, 02:36:57 AM »
MB,

Is there any way of expanding the amount of space available in the signature line of our profiles?

I've just tried my second quotation, and both times I've had to cut the quotes short due to lack of space.  Three lines (or whatever it is) isn't enough space for some of us verbose types!

Thanks.



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Current Talk '02 I / Leaving the Past
« on: May 07, 2002, 02:29:49 AM »
At first I liked the transition back to the present day when Victoria Winters returned from 1795 ... the tension this introduced to Barnabas; Victoria's lost love of an earlier century; the portrait of Angelique and the power it exerts over Roger; the introduction of Professor Timothy Elliot Stokes.

Then Dr. Lang entered the picture.   :(  I didn't care much for any scene he was in during my first viewing of the series, and now I've toyed with the idea of fast-forwarding through much of the upcoming storyline (though I like the Dream Curse). But as I watched Friday's episodes, I realized that I might miss some good material if I did that. For example, I would already have missed the significant, key point of why Vicki was "sent" back into the past:* 1) she saved Daniel when she killed Noah Gifford, thereby preserving the Collins line, and 2) she was destined to meet Peter Bradford, and their love will transcend time.

This last point reminds me of Gothick's mention recently
about the influence of the movie "Berkeley Square" on the 1795 storyline. I had never heard of this movie (nor of several others mentioned recently on this forum), which made me realize how much I am still learning about DS after more than three years of involvement here.  Either DS is very rich in material, or the people posting here are uncommonly insightful in mining information from the show, or -- as I suspect -- both are true.   :)

At any rate, a week or so ago I was looking up some unrelated information on the web; I think it had to do with "The House of the Seven Gables," a novel with which DS has much in common, including ghosts of the past, a history of witchcraft, a family curse, ancestral portraits, and, finally, a redemptive love that overcomes the cursed past (cf. 1841 PT). In the course of my web search, I came across mention of an unfinished novel by Henry James titled "A Sense of the Past," which turns out to have been the basis for "Berkeley Square." ("Berekely Square" was apparently a play first, then the movie, and was remade in the 1950s as "The House on the Square." Both movie versions receive high marks from critics and viewers, but neither is available on video or DVD.  I would encourage anyone interested in finding out more about how these movies influenced DS by requesting that they be shown on Turner Classic Movies and/or AMC.)

Another thing that caught my eye in Friday's second episode was the house of Dr. Lang.  What a wonderfully foreboding Victorian home!  Does anyone know anything about the actual house used in the exterior shot/slide?

Somehow I've managed to miss -- two times now -- the "House by the Sea" that was visited by Vicki, Burke, and Elizabeth.  Was an exterior shot of that house ever seen?  For some reason I wondered if it was the same as Dr. Lang's house. Or is this the first time we've seen Dr. Lang's?  Is this house also where

SPOILER

Angelique imprisons Vicki?   :o

It seems to me that we will be seeing a lot of the interior set of Dr. Lang's house, in various incarnations.  One of my favorite sets of the entire series is the Rectory in 1897, which I think may have made use of the Dr. Lang interior.

I've been sorry we had to leave the past behind.  The 1795 storyline was one of the very best of the series (#2 in my ranking).  It was a cohesive, engrossing story, very well-acted and executed.

I am still lingering in that past, but I know there are some wonderful things to look forward to also. There may even be moments that surpass 1795 ...

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*which also raises the question of who or what power sent her into the past


-Vlad

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: vicki's past
« on: May 03, 2002, 03:35:18 AM »
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The odd thing is that it seemed to me in the first 13 weeks they were still going down the "Vicki is Paul's daughter" route, given the whole Betty Hanscomb thing. If not, I have no idea where he was going with that.



It's possible that the elaborate trail of clues you refer to was designed to throw both Vicki and the viewers off track -- and that a "surprise" solution was ultimately to be revealed (i.e., that Elizabeth is Victoria's mother).


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I think Art Wallace was still writing for the show in the beginning and he may have been following his original bible despite DC's wishes - perhaps he hoped to convince Curtis to see it his way.


I wonder if anyone ever asked Mr. Wallace about this in an interview.  He may have been flexible in adapting and changing his own original ideas, too.  In fact, we know that he was, as Roger was originally supposed to be killed off fairly early on!

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P.S., BTW, in my "signature" quote, the "broken glass" refers to a looking-glass, i.e., a mirror.

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Crazy car crash
« on: May 03, 2002, 03:25:50 AM »
I've only seen the first episode from yesterday, ending with the cliffhanger car crash.  I didn't remember it being that funny the first time I saw it!   :D

From the end of that episode, my guess would be that Peter Bradford's time in 1968 was nipped in the bud, with Vicki's over-reaction driving ...   ;)

And, BTW, just how long a drive is it to the cemetery?  It never seemed to take David or Sarah quite that long to get there (I'm still in awe of Sarah running out of Collinwood smack dab into the midst of the cemetery, in front of the Collins' crypt!).

:)