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I checked AMC's website to see if they plan to re-air "Frankenstein: The True Story" (would like to re-tape and capture the first couple of minutes that I missed -- see above).

"Frankenstein: The True Story" isn't even in their database!

They do list "Frankenstein" with the year "1973" and when you click on "synopsis," the information provided is for the Dan Curtis version with Robert Foxworth, Susan Strasberg, and John Karlen.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: Unable to Find Members Archive
« on: July 31, 2002, 05:17:58 AM »
[A couple of hours later]

Oh, I found everything now when I re-logged in.  ;D

I'm not sure what the cause of my confusion was.  I had the same experience when I had logged in a couple of days ago.  I think I was brought directly into the "Current Talk" page when I logged in, and therefore did not see the Main Page.

Or maybe I went directly into the "Current Talk" page both times without realizing it ...

Maybe I'm going crazy ...

:o

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I wasn't planning to tune in to AMC Saturday night since I already own the Dan Curtis "Frankenstein" on video. And, sorry to say, I thought it was so awful I couldn't make it all the way through ...  (Not as bad as the Branagh version, but that's not saying much.  Not to mention that it bore little resemblance to the novel by the same name by a writer known as Mary Shelley!)

Nevertheless, since I happened to be home late Saturday night, I turned on the TV just as the movie was coming on and I immediately saw that it wasn't the Dan Curtis version but rather "Frankenstein: The True Story." I remember being horribly disappointed when this version was produced on TV when I was a boy, since I had already read the novel (precocious reader that I was) and this TV movie with Leonard Whiting and Michael Sarrazin bore no resemblance to Mary Shelley's novel.

But I remember having read some rave comments about this version on the Internet Movie Database and at amazon.com and elsewhere, so I decided to shove a blank tape into the VCR ... very annoyed that I didn't know it was this version in advance, since the resulting tape is missing the first couple of minutes.  :(  Nothing irritates me more than having the beginning (or ending) cut off on my taping of a movie.

I was able to watch most of "Frankenstein: The True Story" (and managed to find a second blank tape to put in during the commercial break), and although it had little to do with Mary Shelley's novel, I did find this an intriguing and extremely well-produced version.  It was such a hoot to see such a fantastic cast -- John Gielgud, Ralph Richardson? -- Those names meant nothing to me when I was 11 years old.  (Though of course I knew Agnes Moorhead from "Bewitched.")

I truly appreciated this version in a way that I did not when I was 11 (or whatever).  As one of the reviewers on one of the boards I mentioned wrote, this version does capture Mary Shelley's theme about responsibility (which some have interpreted as a subtle critique of her husband's and Byron's free-wheeling philosophy of life).

I especially loved Jane Seymour as the wicked Prima! It will be interesting to compare this interpretation of "Eve" with Marie Wallace's upcoming role on DS, which I haven't seen before.  (Of course, in MS's novel, "Eve" is never brought to life.)

The only faithful movie version of the book is the Swedish-Irish co-production "Victor Frankenstein", a.k.a. "Terror of Frankenstein" made by Calvin Floyd, which I have written about previously.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: Unable to Find Members Archive
« on: July 31, 2002, 02:35:59 AM »
I see no "Gateway" or any access otherwise to an "Archive."

I do not see a "new category diplaying below Why Register" described on the main page.  I do not see anything labeled "Why Register".  Nor do I understand what this means.  Is that a topic, a thread, or something I'm supposed to see at the bottom of the page?

I do not see "Testing 1 ... 2 ... 3" or anything other than the Current Talk board.

I am extremely confused.

>:(

Also, I was going to copy and paste information from the explanatory post, and find I am unable to copy from posts anymore!  What's going on?

?!?


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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Unable to Find Members Archive
« on: July 31, 2002, 02:26:14 AM »
I am unable to find the Members Archive described on the main page.
:(

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Well, I've looked at the website, and I still can't make heads or tails of what this show was about.  I'd never heard of it before.  Was it something like "Dr. Who"?  ?!?

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I'm only getting a chance to read this post now, quite a bit after the fact.  Part of the reason why I didn't look at it before (besides time limitations) is that I didn't realize that I even got "SoapNet."

Is this a daily show?  How did you find out that DS guests would be featured?  Is there a way of finding out if this episode will be repeated?

Many thanks if anyone is able to answer my questions.


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Current Talk '02 II / Re: Where is Tom's Coffin located???
« on: July 23, 2002, 05:08:06 AM »
I'm finding all of this Tom Jennings vampire business very exciting!

I'm in an enviable position: I've never seen the current episodes. I haven't seen a single episode between now and the arrival of Amy at Collinwood.

That begins Quentin and the antique telephone, Beth, and that whole bit, of which I've seen approximately 30 episodes.  After that, I'll have a whole new slew of episodes that I've never seen, leading up to the first episode of 1897.

I'm going to try to savor every moment ...

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: Fans of the Show
« on: July 23, 2002, 04:50:20 AM »
Best wishes to both of the ladies!

:D


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Current Talk '02 II / Re: Angelique's Resurrection Appearance
« on: July 19, 2002, 03:35:34 AM »
Thanks for your comments.  :)

I used the term "mimicry" for lack of a better term in my post above. Perhaps "play-acting" would be more accurate.  I thought of this last night when I saw the episode where Joe Haskell drops by the House by the Sea and is greeted by the "emotionally distressed" Angelique (I'm a few days behind in my viewing).

Given the elaborate story she spun for Joe about being held prisoner by Nicholas, it appears that our mortal/witch/mortal/vampire gal gets a kick out of play-acting with a number of different scenarios -- religious enthusiast, Victoria's savior, damsel in distress ... I wonder what other roles she has up her sleeve!

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: Dan Curtis on another DS film:
« on: July 19, 2002, 03:28:57 AM »
I can't even remotely picture Johny Depp as Barnabas -- slouchy-grunge-Method actor vs. the cultured sophistication of Ben Cross with the resonant bass toned-voice and military carriage?

I'm almost as concerned about the writer Mr. Curtis mentions he hopes to tap for the script.  I looked up his credits, and though I haven't seen any of the movies he's written, there's a good reason -- they sound like blockbuster crap!

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Current Talk '02 II / Angelique's Resurrection Appearance
« on: July 18, 2002, 03:34:21 AM »
I'm a bit late with this, but since I had referred to this as upcoming a week or two ago, I feel I ought to follow up on my own comments.

What am I talking about? The newly risen Angelique's "resurrection" appearance to Victoria Winters in the locked room of the House by the Sea. The scene appears to parody one of Christ's resurrection appearances in the gospel accounts of the Bible.

Consider that in the scene prior to this, Angelique and Nicholas discuss the biblical Adam and Eve. Interesting to observe that these two servants of Darkness have no quibbles with the Bible story of Adam being the first man, etc., as is told in the book of Genesis. I think it's significant that this biblical context is present in this episode, because it lends some credence to my conclusions regarding the following scene between Angelique and Vicki.

As background, in the Bible, after the crucifixion, Jesus suddenly appears in a locked room to his disciples. They say he must be a ghost. He says he is not a ghost and instructs them to touch him: he is flesh and blood, as they are. (In one of his appearances, I'm not sure if this is the same one, the risen Lord holds out his hands for the disciples to touch.)

In the scene in question, Angelique enters Victoria's locked room. Vicki says it's impossible, that Angelique is dead: You must be a ghost!  Angelique says she is not a ghost, holds out her hands, and tells Vicki to touch her: she is flesh and blood, she says, like Vicki.

The action and dialogue (which is very close to what I've included above, though I don't have a word-for-word transcription) takes only a few seconds, but the parallels with the Bible scene seem unmistakable. I'm still not sure whether I think this was a conscious attempt to briefly mimic a well-known event of the Bible (which anyone who grew up attending a church would be familiar with) or if the scene emerged from the writer's unconscious mind  -  though I'd opt for the former.

If the scene was a conscious parody of the Bible scene, it's no wonder certain conservative Christian groups thought the show was evil. Though of course the likelihood that any of them saw this particular episode is low, unless they watched the show regularly.  ;D

Should Christians be offended?

I don't think so. After all, Angelique and Nicholas represent the powers of evil here.  Further, for Angelique to parody something in the Bible would be in keeping with her earlier pretense of "getting religion"  -  she's down on her knees and ecstatically proclaims, "I think it must be religion!" duping the Rev. Trask back in Martinique in 1795 when he's grilling her on her religious background. (That scene seems to parody a Pentacostal-type religious experience.)

Religious mimicry seems part of Angelique's demonic repertoire.

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: "Born in Martinique in 1774"
« on: July 17, 2002, 05:03:12 AM »
Are you still out there, Nicky?

When I began watching DS during its last run, I was intrigued by references made by posters here (actually the VN board) regarding Angelique's previous life as Miranda du Val. Several posters stated that Angelique was the reincarnation of Miranda.  Since I've always been fascinated with the idea of reincarnation, I looked forward with anticipation to this revelation. In the meantime, 1897 came about with Josette's reincarnation as Kitty Soames, a.k.a Lady Hampshire.

Finally the much anticipated storyline  -  1840  -  came up. I became suspicious around episode #1140 when Valerie (Angelique) told of her testimony against Judah Zachary back in 1692. Angelique had lived in 1692, but so far no mention was made of reincarnation. Then with episode #1173, I noted in my program guide: "Valerie/Angelique/Miranda again recounts her history as Miranda" (note: this is not mentioned in the Pomegranate program guide). Again, there was nothing here that sounded close to reincarnation.

Finally, the clincher was episode #1197. Unfortunately, I didn't take the time to transcribe any of the dialogue, but I noted in my program guide:  "Episode makes clear unequivocally that Valerie/Angelique was first Miranda, transformed thru powers given her by Judah Zachary into a witch (immortal). Reincarnation plays no role."

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I thought I detected a Hawthorne influence on page 1, Chapter 1 (the description of Collinwood reminiscent of Hawthorne's personifications of the House of the Seven Gables) -- now I know it wasn't "just me"!

Now I think I'll have to re-read "Rappaccini's Daughter" --- just to get the images out of my mind from the godawful movie version "Tales of Terror" or whatever it was.

Wish I could provide more useful comments, but I've only finished Chapter 2.  Was thrilled to find out about Quentin's portrait though!

This serialization format is a very Dickensian experience!

:)

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: "Born in Martinique in 1774"
« on: July 10, 2002, 04:57:44 AM »
I'm afraid I haven't had time yet to check on the information Nicky asked about, but I thought I would mention that I bought Marcy Robin's and Kathleen Resch's novel "Island of Ghosts" at the DS Festival in Anaheim. I've gotten only about a third of the way into it, but the basic setting is that shared by Lara Parker's "Angelique's Descent."  Both novels assume Angelique being born and growing up on Martinique in the late 18th century.  In Ms. Parker's novel, I had some difficulty accepting her proposal that

*SPOILER*

Angelique and Josette were sisters.  The revelation was made about three-quarters through "Angelique's Descent," then the subject drops from sight and is never dealt with in any further depth (in fact, I think it's barely even mentioned again).  I vastly prefer Robin/Resch's handling of this (the idea originated with them).  They introduce this early in "Island of Ghosts," and so the whole relation between Angelique and Josette is explored and it obviously affects everything Angelique does from then on.

I also like their treatment of Angelique's mother (who, in their view is Angelique's real mother), which seems authentic and realistic.  The entire novel, from what I can tell, has an air of authenticity about it that really surprises me, and the quality of writing is very high.