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Oh, and for those of you in the NYC area, I just heard on a listserv that The Reckless Moment (James Mason, Joan Bennett and directed by Max Ophuls) is playing at The Museum of the Moving Image in Queens, New York this Sunday.

The Reckless Moment  is possibly of Bennett's best performances, and it's sadly little screened. Never been released on video (although a bootleg floats around eBay now and then). Also a noir, but Bennett doesn't play a tramp in this one. Kind of an interesting look at noir via the American family. They remade this as The Deep End, but I think the original version has more resonance.

I had that taped and didn't know the value of it -- didn't know it was directed by Ophuls.  I started watching it and it didn't seem of much interest so handed it over to my parents.  I think they felt the same and didn't get around to finishing it.  I don't know what happened to the tape.

Maybe the movie got better?  I've just seen a couple of older movies where that was the case -- slow beginning, not much interest, but building to a tense climax.  (One was the Barretts of Wimpole Street, and I'm forgetting what the other one was at the moment.)

It's so quiet on the board -- maybe everyone is doing their taxes.  Speaking of which, I better sign off and do mine!  (Actually, all I really have to do is recopy the forms, thank God -- I was up till 3 a.m. last night going through all the instructions and forms and am having a hard time concentrating today due to lack of sleep -- if my posts seem rather wiggy, that's why ...)


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Current Talk '03 I / The Professor's Profession
« on: April 15, 2003, 01:21:28 AM »
A while back we had a spirited discussion regarding the exact occupation of Professor Timothy Eliot Stokes.  Some thought him to be a history professor, some an English prof, an Education prof, and a sociologist, if memory serves correct.  Someone else insisted that he was a medical doctor.

My personal take was that Stokes is a professor of psychology with a specialty in parapsychology.  (It was during the 1970s that parapsychology departments began springing up as offshoots of psychology departments, e.g. SRI at Stanford, etc.)  With his interest in the occult and the I-Ching, I would particularly see him as Jungian psychologist (psychology pioneer Jung was deeply interested in the occult, psychic phenomena, and the I-Ching).

Friday's episode brought this discussion to mind again when Professor Stokes tells Julia that he is going to see the "patient."  "The patient?" Julia asks, with a slightly wry smile.  Stokes explains that a doctor-so-and-so has called him in to consult on the case of Sabrina what's her name.

This exchange reinforced my view that Professor Stokes is indeed a professor of psychology, though not currently a psychological practioner.  It seems he would have been called in because of his expertise in psychology ... at least that seems more likely to me than a doctor calling in a history prof, English prof, etc.

And Julia's comment and expression would seem to argue against the view that Stokes has a medical degree.  If he had, why the wry smile about him seeing a "patient"?

Most likely, Professor Stokes has had some experience seeing clients but is primarily an academic psychologist today -- with a special interest in psychic research at Rockport College.


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Current Talk '03 I / A Few Belated Gaffes
« on: April 15, 2003, 01:07:50 AM »
Who was it who used to regularly post about every mistake on practically every episode? I just realized that's been missing from this forum (his comments were always humorous)! Though I'm not on a crusade to bring back that tally sheet, I noticed three rather glaringy gaffes in fairly quick succession recently, so thought I'd mention them ...

Let's see, first there was that scene in Josette's room at the Great House on the night of her demise, when Barnabas came to her and KLS very deftly fed J. Frid his line -- something like "You mean we could be together that way now, don't you?"  (Mr. Frid had put the line in the past tense  ::) )

Then the next episode, I think it was, opened with a voiceover telling about Josette's demise in front of her portrait at the Old House, and the scene being shown was inside the Old House (we were still in 1796 at that point), where one spotted Julia Hoffman's 1970s wool coat hanging on the coat rack ...

Finally, either in that episode or the next one, after we had returned to 1970 and Julia was telling Carolyn about her experience in 1897 (I didn't recall at all that Carolyn even knew about this ...) and how she was waiting for Barnabas' return, and then Julia overhears the voices of Magda and Pansy (Faye) talking in 1897.  They are discussing how Barnabas disappeared with Josette in the Old House and haven't been seen since.  Pansy insists that Magda should know what's happened because "you were friends with Barnabas, weren't you?"  Magda agrees that she was, but that she hadn't seen Barnabas for "two weeks."  Wait a minute!  Magda was "friends" with the "old," vampire Barnabas ... not the "new" Barnabas who appeared on the scene after Pansy staked "the vampire"!  And that must have been more than two weeks ago! Looks like a writer goofed on that one, and no one caught it ...  ;D

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Current Talk '03 I / Leviathan Sex Cult?
« on: April 15, 2003, 12:47:48 AM »
All right, I admit I did that to grab people's attention.  ;D

But I am serious, too, although maybe "fertility cult" might be a better term.

I don't recall noticing this last time around, or reading anyone else saying this, but that Leviathan monument/altar looks very much like a visual representation of male and female sexuality.

I first noticed the design on the upright as being very phallic ... I don't want to offend anyone's sensibilities, but if you look just below the snake heads, you'll know what I mean ...  And the shape of the entire stone itself could certainly be interpreted as being phallic.

As if that isn't enough, the horizontal altar slab placed strategically in front of the vertical upright reinforces this male/female sexual imagery.  To top it all off, the altar then parted, with the upright piece standing tall between it ... do I need to say more?   :-[


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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Leviathan....the beginning of the end?
« on: April 15, 2003, 12:37:28 AM »
I've never understood this comment about the Leviathan ratings spelling the end of the show.  I mean, we're barely half-way through the run of the series!

I was greatly intrigued with the Leviathan storyline up until the end.  I liked the return of an evil Barnabas (and appreciate Frid's acting transformation here) and though I'm not much of a sci-fi person, I still found the Leviathan idea interesting.  Later on, I felt everything hit rock bottom -- on many levels, including the acting and directing; it seemed like the show completely fell apart.  (Will strive to keep my comments less acerbic this time round, though!)

In reviewing the entire scope of the show, I personally rank the next storyline, 1970 PT, below Leviathan overall, as well as the Adam storyline, and possibly something else I'm forgetting, below Leviathan.  A story I started on Angelique is set during Leviathan, so this storyline, while not one of my favorites by a long shot, still provided the perfect setting and situation for my imagination ...

The show certainly recovered (whether from my perceived low point, or from low ratings ...) ... and among several more storylines to go, we still have the greatest storyline of all to look forward to -- 1840! (A bit of editorializing there, I'll grant.)

 :D




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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Missing Episode?
« on: April 15, 2003, 12:10:22 AM »
You must've pulled the old I-taped-Spongebob-Squarepants-instead-of-Dark-Shadows whoopsie, Vlad.  You did miss some in there.  Petofi tried to use Miss Faye as a ransom to get Quentin to come over, but Quentin had already left in search of Amanda, so Barnabas went to her rescue, at which Petofi decided to use Barnabas' body to go to the future, but just as it was about to happen, ol' Garth came in, full of the beans and slapping that chain around, putting the Count on trial (Pansy and Barnabas served as witnesses and jury).  Garth had them leave and then decided to execute Petofi by setting the place on fire.

All that in one episode!?!  At least that's what I figure I must have missed.

Thanks everyone for responding (though the rather "off-topic" "side discussion" went over my head ...).  I realize I could have just gone into Robservations and tried to straighten things out, but I thought I had also read recently in some thread that some episodes were being shown out of order and thought that might have been the problem.  However, it must have been my gaffe.  ::)


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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Does He or Doesn't He?
« on: April 15, 2003, 12:03:21 AM »
And it's too bad the writers never fully developed him as an ally to Barnabas & Julia - those three running around together would've been the best!

On the other hand, this creates more ambiguity -- which makes the characterizations and situations more real-life and interesting.


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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Two Josette's Music Boxes?
« on: April 14, 2003, 11:56:09 PM »
Speaking of Josette's music box, I picked one up at the fest in LA two years ago.   I've never noticed if there was a difference in the props on TV but I do think that the musical versions are slightly different.  What I mean is that the version playing on TV is different from the one that plays on my music box.

Miss Winthrop, this was discussed not long ago in an earlier thread about Josette's music box.  If you have the newer model (Dan Curtis Productions, circa 1996), the melody plays much faster than it ever does on the show; also in a higher key.

I wish I could remember what the first, original Josette's theme sounded like ... I liked that too; I missed those episodes in the most recent SciFi airing so it has been a few years since I've heard it.


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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Two Josette's Music Boxes?
« on: April 14, 2003, 11:52:45 PM »
I always kinda thought that there were two Josette's music boxes used throughout the series, just some subtle differences between them.  I wonder if they had two of them made (or purchased two very similar nick-nack, brick-a-brack thingies from a junk shop) just in case one got busted; you can see how they were sometimes a bit clumsy with the props.

Whew!  I was expecting to be written off as crazed and demented ...  thank you, Gerard!   :)

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I'm never sure if I've seen a Renoir-directed film or if I'm thinking of Cocteau (a dreamlike take on the myth of Orpheus); also Beauty and the Beast (both French, B&W).  Will be sure to tape this ... and hopefully won't become as obsessed with analyzing this one as with some others ...   ::)

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Current Talk '03 I / Two Josette's Music Boxes?
« on: April 11, 2003, 12:22:54 AM »
I mentioned this in another thread, but the subject seems important enough (to me, anyway) to warrant a separate thread -- and hopefully the Subject line will be noticed by someone who knows.

I've been carefully examining every episode where Josette's music box is shown in closeup ever since I bought my copy from the DS Festival.

I am sure that there are TWO Josette's music boxes being used!  Has anyone else noticed this?  The one shown in Wednesday's episodes was the more elegant looking one -- somewhat wider, and with the glass wider at the top.  The last closeup of the music box that I remember from maybe a week or so ago seemed like a more slender and possibly taller version, and the glass seemed not to have the outward curvature.


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Current Talk '03 I / Missing Episode?
« on: April 11, 2003, 12:18:35 AM »
Just a very quick question -- I seemed to be missing one or two episodes between Tuesday and Wednesday.  I don't know if I was a day behind in my viewing without realizing it and taped over one day's eps, or what? The last I knew Pansy Faye had run over to Petofi's place to steal his necktie and he grabbed her wrists.

The next day I start playing that day's tapings, and Barnabas was poking throught the smoldering ruins of the artist studio ...

What happened?  Did I goof?!?


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Current Talk '03 I / Re:JUDITH'S AND TIM SHAW'S BRICKING CO.
« on: April 11, 2003, 12:13:26 AM »
I was suprised to see Quentin's grammaphone still up there in his room since Judith had mentioned to Quentin that she had all of his belongings moved to the "green" room, wherever that may be.  I would think that his grammophone would be very important to him since he loved to play it all the time.

Not only that, did you notice (or not notice, as the case may be) how blase Quentin's reaction was when Judith told him the news? Judith:  Oh, by the bye, while you were out for a few hours, I decided to close off the section of the house where you live and we've removed (some of) your belongings!  Quentin: Oh, sure, what the hay.

I'd be more than a little perturbed, and rather concerned about retrieving some of my belongings.

Jennifer, I think Angelique or Cassandra went into a bathroom off her and Edward's or whoever's bedroom suite and flushed some poison or something down the toilet once.

Yes, there were two gramaphones.  The designs on them differed.

** BTW, I also think based on episodes in the last three weeks that THERE WERE TWO JOSETTE'S MUSIC BOXES!! **


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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 I / Re:Suspiria Alert
« on: April 11, 2003, 12:01:40 AM »
Thanks for giving us the bad news, Professor Stokes.  This was news to me, and probably to everyone else -- it appears the article was dated the day you posted the info ... rather coincidental timing given this thread (whose life I'm sure has over-expired!).

I just don't understand the point of people re-making movies like "Psycho," "The Wicker Man," etc.  Do they really think they'll capture the synergy that made the original unique?  ???

One fairly recent re-make I know of did receive critical praise, "Nosferatu." But that's one in a hundred.


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It's too bad the Reverend Gregory Trask didn't hook up with the real Pansey Faye when he had the chance.  They could've been the Jim and Tammy Baker (and wasn't her maiden name Faye?) of the 1890's.

"Faye" is a woman's name.

One would have thought that "Pansy Faye" is her first and middle name, but then Kitty came along and addressed her as "Miss Faye."  Perhaps that was a faux pas on Lady Hampshire's part, though.

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Re: Rev. Gregory Trask ... there seems to be a pathological streak in the family.  There are scenes that indicate that Trask really believes he does have a pipeline to the Almighty ...