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It's Josette's turn to be interrogated, and Trask is clearly smitten by how pretty she is. She barely knew Miss Winters, she says, so his insistence that the governess is the witch and meant her harm seems to make no sense. He gazes at the pitchfork on Josette's hand, the devil's brand, he calls it, and says the devil wants to entice her. The brand comes and goes, she explains, and she does feel differently when it's there than when it isn't. She is being possessed by the devil, Trask says, and he must exorcise it from her![/spoiler]