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Well, unfortunately, several of you apparently did NOT heed my suggestion of a polite, articulate email to this reporter.  Some of you even, according to him, lowered yourselves to racial epithets.  Shame on those of you who did!!

Perhaps you're privy to information I don't have, in which case I'll withdraw my comment, but I don't think it can be assumed that your messages posted here directly address "several" people who sent the emails that upset the author.  Do you know for a fact that the person or persons who wrote racial slurs have read this topic, or have ever even once visited these Forums?

Um, would you like me to forward his emails to you Midnite, to PROVE that he sent them to me!?  I'd be happy to!  NO PROBLEM!!  Just PM me your email address and I'll be HAPPY to oblige!!  The original post, as Mark pointed out, suggested we "write to this creep" to "straighten him out!".  What evidence do we have that he's a creep!?  Because he happened to SUPPOSEDLY exclude our favorite vampire from his article??  And do you HONESTLY believe FOR ONE MINUTE that the ppl he refers to DID NOT READ THIS POST???  If so might I suggest you are woefully naive!  You think it's a COINCIDENCE that these emails were received and ppl didn't read this post???  Give me a friggin' break!!!!


Mark and Nancy made excellent points!  And since acting out anonymously with the goal of inciting outrage is a common modus operandi of internet trolls

Are you actually suggesting that I'm a troll because I felt it necessary to inform fellow fans of what other fans did???   How dare you!!!???  YOU have NO PROBLEM reading us the riot act when you think WE'VE misbehaved, but I guess we are not allowed to do so??  Nice double standard! Must be nice to be a MODERATOR!!!  Also, VERY interesting that you didn't feel the need to blast Nancy, Claude and Mark.  Only me!!  I guess you and I are longer COOL!!

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Well, unfortunately, several of you apparently did NOT heed my suggestion of a polite, articulate email to this reporter.  Some of you even, according to him, lowered yourselves to racial epithets.  Shame on those of you who did!!    [angry1]  Below are the two email responses I received when I POLITELY pointed out his 'supposed' exclusion of Barnabas and DS in the article.  I get the impression from his second email that he would prefer not to be bombarded at work w/any more emails regarding this.


Email #1:

Thanks for your note.  I do appreciate the feedback.  I guess someone has asked every member of a DS fan club to write me.  It's nice to see that you and other fans are being loyal; but you may not be in full posession of the facts.  This has been my response to other emails.  I suggest you send it around to others.  My story had NOTHING to do with establishing who was THE ORIGINAL ensouled vampire, nor did I ever claim any of the ones I mentioned were "original."

First, I wrote about RECENT manifestations of the "good vampire" idea; second, my piece was a (synchronic) analysis of the concept of a "good" or "ensouled" vampire and NOT a (diachronic) history of the phenomenon.  That said, Barbaralla PRE-DATES Dark Shadows, even though DS is far superior as a story in every way.

Secondly, and this is moot, but I DID mention Dark Shadows in my story; that section got cut for space -- I eventually agreed to the cut because the DS material wasn't absolutely necesssary for the story. However, the two DS TV movies are mentioned in the little box of recommended films that ran with the story.

thanks for your attention,

Tirdad Derakhshani

Email #2:

Hi

Well, to be quite frank, I've received quite a few very rude, insulting notes; it's clear some of the people who sent them have never actually read my story.  Racial epithets seem easy to use via email since you don't have to face the other person or even hear his voice.  I have also received a couple of very thoughtful and generous emails, but those are in the minority.

I am very sorry fans are upset. Most don't realize that some of us who write about these topics also are fans ourselves. In fact, I love Dark Shadows and I always have.  But I cannot mention every iteration of a phenomenon in a story which doesn't claim to look at its history or origins. Clearly: I now wish I had kept at least some mention of DS in the story. It's regretable that it wasn't there.

I do wish you or someone else could forward this and my previous note to whatever fan site or email list you were using.  It'll be an easier way to get my response to everyone interested in the issue.

thanks
td


If ppl still want to write to this guy PLEASE be polite and respectful!!  When ppl are rude it makes ALL of us look bad!  And I personally do not want to be looked on by others as a rude DS fan because I'm a member of this fandom.  Below is the email I sent to him, I post it here only as an EXAMPLE of the type of email that should be sent rather than rude ones.

Dude, you missed the ORIGINAL defanged, crusader vampire.  Dark Shadows' own Barnabas Collins!  ;)

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Might I humbly suggest that if anyone DOES decide to write to this reporter that they POLITELY point out the exclusion of Barnabas in his/her article?  Last thing we want is to come off as a bunch of psycho DS fans.   [hall2_grin]

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Calendar Events / Announcements '07 II / Re: OT<But I'm Happy for
« on: October 30, 2007, 01:23:14 AM »
Yeah, Red Sox RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    [8_1_209]

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Calendar Events / Announcements '07 II / Re: Is It Just Me?
« on: October 29, 2007, 03:28:01 AM »
OMG, that guy DOES look like he could be the love child of Chris and Louie, LOL!

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: New member who loves Luciaphil's Idle Thoughts
« on: October 24, 2007, 03:25:42 PM »
I recall Amy seeing "Grant Douglas" and thinking he was Quentin.

Indeed, this always bugged the crap outta me too!  It would have been way more interesting, IMHO anyway, to have Amy meet "Grant" and be like, "Oh, hello, nice to meet you Mr. Douglas" w/no fear.  Just my two pesos!    [hall_grin]

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Where is Chris Jennings???

Um, on the EW.com: 11 Great Hollywood Werewolve's list??  He was a werewolf, not a vampire.     [hall2_grin]

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: What's the skinny on the HODS & NODS DVDs?
« on: October 22, 2007, 02:32:18 AM »
Indeed, as Seinfeld would say, "What IS the deal?"  Darren, any indication that the NODS release will be your restored masterpiece?   [hall_grin]

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Barnabas Collins was a guilt-ridden, aristocratic bloodsucker from overseas who brought the supernatural to the rich Collins family.

Oh brother, when WILL these clowns do their research?!  Barnabas was not from overseas nor did HE bring the supernatural to the Collins clan--it was already there!   [hall2_rolleyes]  Having said that however, it IS nice to see him included in the countdown.    [hall2_wink]

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: Question about Collins descendants from 1795
« on: October 22, 2007, 02:16:28 AM »
{spoiler alert}, Gabriel killed Edith in 1840, so how could Grandma Edith be alive in 1897?{end spoiler}

That's right!!  I completely forgot about that!  You're right, it was a brain fart on the writer's part.  Ya know, Frid was right that time they were all arguing a plot point at a read through and he said, "Oh just go ask the kids outside, they'll know!"   [hall_wink]

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: Question about Collins descendants from 1795
« on: October 21, 2007, 03:28:33 PM »
Daniel survived, marrying and having children.  One of those children was Edith (played by Joan Bennett in 1840 and the delightful Isabella Hoopes as the dying Edith in 1987).  Edith goes on to to have a fairly large brood:  Edward, Quentin, Carl, and Judith by the 1897 storyline. Edward has a young son, Jamison (played by David Henesy) and it is Jamison who is the father of Roger and Elizabeth.

MAJOR SPOILERS FOLKS!!!  READ NO FURTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE PLOTLINES YOU HAVEN'T SEEN REVEALED!!

Edith was not Daniel's daughter, and she was never played by Joan Bennett.  Joan played cousin Flora Collins (who lived at Rose Cottage w/son Desmond) in 1840.  In 1840 Terry Crawford played the wickedly evil Edith, wife to Chris Pennock's crippled Gabriel, who was the younger brother of the 1840 Quentin.  Daniel was her father-in-law.  Isabella Hoopes then, as you stated, played the aged, dying Edith in 1897.  Gabriel and Edith had at least 2 children, who were away at boarding school and never seen, only mentioned, in 1840.  Edward, Judith, Quentin and Carl from 1897 are the GRANDCHILDREN, not the children, of old Edith.  It stands to reason that Gabriel and Edith had a son who was the father of Edward, Judith, Quentin and Carl.  You were correct when you stated that Jamison was the father of Roger and Elizabeth.  So, Barnabas and Jeremiah are in no way responsible for the continuation of the family, it was all on their cousin Daniel.   [hall2_cool]

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: New member who loves Luciaphil's Idle Thoughts
« on: October 18, 2007, 04:30:04 AM »
I didn't mean to steal you monicker

Not at all, not at all!  I'm thrilled there's another Buzz fan on here, we are a rare breed!   [hall2_cool]

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I really want The Cat Creature.

I'll tell you what I want, 'The Shuttered Room', 'The Screaming Woman' and 'The Scarecrow of Romny Marsh'.  Haven't seen any of them, but my older brother swears they are scary as s*#@!!    [yikes]

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: New member who loves Luciaphil's Idle Thoughts
« on: October 15, 2007, 02:46:31 AM »
Ah! Another Buzz!  Welcome, welcome!  Is your name really Buzz or are you just a fan of the leather-clad one!   [hall2_cool]

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Missed opportunities:  I would have loved to have seen Frank Garner become a regular on the show as Vicki's love interest. 

Couldn't...agree...more G!  I LOVED Frank Garner and was none too pleased when he SPOILER just disappeared w/out any explanation as soon as Barnabas arrived on the scene.

Nowadays I swear soap casting directors head for the local fitness clubs to cast their shows. And when you put these novices besides a sturdy soap vet, it becomes painfully obvious these pretenders can't hold their own.

No joke!  I was watching some bloopers of Guiding Light on YouTube recently and the young actor's just didn't compare to the actors that were on that show in the 70's and 80's when I used to watch.  One young woman in particular was so horrible it was seriously painful to watch her!   [hall2_rolleyes]