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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0651
« on: March 04, 2014, 08:56:27 PM »
When you put it that way, it sounds a little bit like a death. We have to get used to the fact that we'll never see that person again in life.

Chris asks the operator to get him 7758. The phone rings at the Great House, even though that isn't the usual phone number for Collinwood!) I guess the Collinwood exchange is the only one in town! Chris asks for Julia, but Barnabas tells "Jennings" (without the Mister) that there's been an emergency with Mrs. Stoddard--too much information?

Barnabas practically wails, Why did HE have to come and take her away? Why? WHY? It was Vicki's choice to make, Julia replies, but that’s the last thing Barnabas wants to hear. Julia tells him, I spoke with Vicki after Jeff's disappearance. She was willing to sacrifice her life to be with him. This only makes Barnabas furious. Julia says, You must accept this for your own peace of mind! Through clenched teeth, Barnabas says, I'll accept she's gone and that I'll never see Vicki again--but I blame Jeff for interfering in the first place! I can't force you to see what you should see, Julia sighs patiently.

Meanwhile, poor Chris is without the sleeping pills Julia promised him. Amy wishes he could have come to the movies with her and Joe. After Joe leaves, she looks up at the sky, fearful when she sees the full moon. Although she's been at Collinwood only a short time, she has already adapted to the decor and is dressed entirely in green, even her shoes. Chris also knows that the moon is full--and why it's so frightening.

Barnabas told Julia he wanted to see Elizabeth, but where was he? Not with Elizabeth, because he would have known that she has left the house. Maybe he went back to Vicki’s room to indulge his misery one more time. With the gentle manner he always reserves for small children (and which JF does so nicely), he tries to explain to Amy about Elizabeth, but becomes alarmed when Amy says she left the house. After he leaves to get Julia, Amy puts on her green coat and runs out.

Chris finally goes to Collinwood, and Julia gives him the sleeping pills. At the mausoleum, Elizabeth tells Amy that soon people will think that she (E.) is dead but she won't be, and she'll be buried alive. If Elizabeth weren't under Angelique's spell, she would never say such terrible things to a little kid.

Poor Chris! Poor Joe!


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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0650
« on: March 04, 2014, 08:41:53 PM »
Okay, that makes sense.

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0650
« on: March 04, 2014, 07:30:55 PM »
Interesting idea, MT. But when were they going to explain [spoiler]the whole mother-daughter thing[/spoiler]?

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0647
« on: March 04, 2014, 07:12:18 PM »
Thank you, MT! I was away for an all-too-brief but fun vacation.

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0650
« on: March 04, 2014, 05:02:52 PM »
We get one last, lovely scene with Elizabeth and Vicki--still nice even with faux Vicki no. 1.

A long time ago, when I had lots of free time, I transcribed the Barn-Vicki farewell. It really is lovely:

Barnabas comes into Vicki's room and finds her sitting in a chair and near despair over her plight. But she is always glad to see Barnabas and greets him with a smile. I was going to go to you, to say goodbye, she says as Barnabas listens in surprise. I'm leaving Collinwood, she explains. May I ask why, Barnabas says. I fell in love, married the man I love, then lost him, she says despondently. If I stayed, the memories would be unbearable. I understand, Barnabas says quietly (but with massive understatement). Vicki continues, I have to go away--where, I don't know, but I must go. If Barnabas was unhappy about Vicki’s marriage, he’s stunned at the possibility that he might never see her again. You're making a mistake, deserting the people who love you, he objects. Please don’t think of it that way, Vicki says. I care for you, he says in his gentlest, most persuasive tones. Come away with me. Let me take care of you. I realize it's too soon to ask, but Vicki, I want you to be my wife. [What incredibly bad timing, Barn!] She whirls around to face him. Sensing her astonishment, Barnabas says, Please let me speak. I know you don't feel for me as you feel for Jeff, but I believe you have some feeling for me. Of course I do, Vicki replies. Perhaps hoping to persuade himself, Barnabas continues, There's the possibility that, in time, your feelings might grow, and I might be able to make you happy. I'd do anything in the world to make you happy. Consider going away with me as my wife. You're the kindest, most considerate man I know, Vicki says gently. I feel close to you and always will.

Knowing what’s coming, Barnabas says softly, Please be sure before you say no. I'm honored you asked, she says, and I truly wish I didn't have to say no, but I must. Because you could never learn to love me? he asks (egotistically). No, Vicki replies solemnly. In many ways, I feel something like love for you, and if I hadn't met Jeff.... Jeff is gone, Barnabas reminds her. He isn't, Vicki replies, and while I know he will never return to me, I'll never stop loving him. I always will. My love for him will always exist in me, and so a part of Jeff will always exist, too. Poor Barnabas is so hurt that all he really understands is that Vicki will never marry him. [And what an idiot she is too!] Vicki continues apologetically, I'll never stop loving the man I _did_ marry. I can never have another husband. [So much for Burke Devlin!] I wish I didn't have to hurt you, she winds up. Please don’t apologize, Barnabas says. Apologies are always more painful than anything else. I asked you a question and you answered it. I want to leave it at that. When are you leaving? he asks. I don’t know, Vicki replies, but as soon as possible. It would be best to leave quickly, I feel. Then perhaps this should be our final farewell, Barnabas suggests. It would be easier that way, he opines. Goodbye, Vicki, he says quietly. Goodbye, Barnabas, she says. Barnabas takes a long final look at her face from about four feet away before he slowly leaves the room. (And no, gentle reader, being the gentlemanly courtly type that he is, he doesn’t even ask for a chaste peck on the cheek.) Before he reaches the door, Vicki stops him and says, Wherever I go, whatever happens to me, I'll never forget you. And I’ll never forget you, he promises. He walks out of the room, his face suffused with sorrow.

Vicki is so busy crying that she doesn’t see the blue light reappear--this time with Jeff inside it, wearing the simple eighteenth-century clothes of Peter Bradford. Her love brought him back--but only briefly, he tells her after an ecstatic kiss. She begs him to take her with him.

Downstairs, Roger finds Barnabas sitting miserably in a chair. Roger wishes he could help but has to leave for London. He promises to phone his sister when he arrives--a mark of the family's wealth in those days. Elizabeth waves goodbye, and we hear the cab drives off. She returns to Barnabas, surprised to see him here. I thought you were still upstairs with Vicki, she says. I just passed her room, heard her talking to a man and assumed it was you. Barnabas turns white, then runs out of the room and races up the stairs, Elizabeth close behind him.

You might feel lost in another century, Jeff/Peter warns Vicki. Not if I'm with you, she insists, holding him tightly. The clock is going to strike, he says. With Elizabeth right behind him, Barnabas tries the door--and finds it locked. Vicki! he calls out. Vicki starts with alarm at the sound of his voice. Peter tells Vicki, Take my hand and hold tight. I love you! he vows. I love you! Vicki replies passionately. Just as the clock strikes eight, Barnabas breaks down the door--but he is too late. Husband and wife are already chromakeyed. Barnabas and Elizabeth watch with grief and horror as Peter Bradford/Jeff Clark and Victoria Winters Clark/Bradford (Betsy Durkin in her final appearance on the show) slowly fade into the past forever. Vicki! Barnabas calls forlornly as he takes a step into the empty room.….

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0649
« on: March 04, 2014, 04:55:34 PM »
Poor Joe and Chris have a sad conversation. Since Joe is looking for work in Boston, most likely he's still unemployed. Joe hints that Chris should see Amy more often--and then tells him about the pentagram Amy saw on his face and about the "kooky lady" who told him (J.) that he would die soon. Already in a panic, Chris hurries him out the door.

Madame Findley learns the hard way not to make Quentin angry. Quentin's terrorizing of Madame Findley is very well done. Nice fall down the stairs by Alex Stevens in an awful wig. Sometimes it's an advantage that all werewolves are short.

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0647
« on: March 04, 2014, 04:48:08 PM »
Gosh, MT, I'm probably the wrong person to ask, being a total nonbeliever in spiritualism! But as I understand it, the medium establishes a relationship with a contact--called the control--in the afterlife. When the medium enters the trance, his or her body is temporarily taken over by the control. The control speaks through the medium and  rounds up the spirit(s) the medium or the clients want to communicate with. I have no idea why the contact is called the control. At this séance, Madame Findley reaches out and expects to contact her usual control, but that person is somehow mystically pushed aside by Magda, who is desperate to warn everyone about Quentin. Magda takes over Madame Findley and speaks through her.

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0648
« on: February 27, 2014, 08:56:29 PM »
Amy says that Quentin won't be pleased that Madame Findley is looking for him. Finally Quentin's Theme starts up. The kids listen, mesmerized, as he gives them inaudible instructions.

Madame Findley tells Elizabeth that she feels "astral disturbances" upstairs, but she is fixated on the drawing room, where she feels "M"'s presence strongly. She suddenly exclaims, There is a curse on this house! Elizabeth is shocked and horrified, but Madame Findley is sure she is right.

Madame Findley finally reaches "M" and establishes a series of rapping signals for Yes and No. M tells her that the spirits causing the disturbances are confined not just to the house but to a single room. She wants to explore the East Wing.

Joe comes to see Amy--they're cousins, after all. Despite being in Quentin's thrall, she still wants to live with Chris but is happy to be at Collinwood, where he can visit whenever he wants. Welcome, pentagram! Amy and Madame Findley see one on Joe's forehead. After he leaves, Madame Findley questions Amy about whether she's seen or heard anything strange. Amy plays innocent. Suddenly, David emerges from the secret panel, setting Quentin's plan in motion. They pretend to try to talk Madame Findley about exploring the passage, which of course has just the opposite effect.

Madame Findley enters the passage, tarot card in hand. Despite David's warning, she starts to go up to the West Wing. Yes! she exults. I think you have a secret, she tells Amy. What kind of secret? David asks, pretending anger with Amy. I am going to find out, Madame Findley declares. David and Amy try to talk her out of going up. Please come back! they plead, obviously steering the unsuspecting medium exactly where they’ve been ordered to lure her. She starts up the passageway, and the children close the panel behind her. Suddenly they hear a noise. Immediately Amy pulls out a set of jacks and a ball. She and David drop to the floor as she begins playing. You’re cheating! Amy accuses David. I’m just better at it than you are, David says. The scene is set as Elizabeth enters and orders them to play without fighting. Where is Madame Findley? she asks.

Still holding the tarot card, Madame Findley is walking up a flight of stairs in an unlit passageway.

She left, the children tell Elizabeth. How long ago? Elizabeth asks. We don’t know, they reply. She didn't say anything to us. That’s odd, Elizabeth comments. I was going to take her to the West Wing. The children smile at each other, but Amy is a bit distracted. Go on, Amy, David tells her. Play the game. She smiles at him in a most un-adult manner. Glad that they have stopped squabbling, Elizabeth leaves to check the study.

Madame Findley, very excited, has arrived at the storage room in the West Wing. Seeing the opening in the panel, she crawls inside. Something pushes her into Quentin’s Room. [As she stands up, she trips over something--the wire that pulls the door shut behind her a moment later.] David and Amy have followed her quietly. In the storeroom, they move a trunk to cover the opening in the panel--but they needn’t have bothered. You're here, aren't you? Madame Findley calls out. I can tell your presence! The door slams shut behind her, locking her in. They hear her say, You won't frighten me! I want to help you! But Quentin has already set to work.

The closing credits run over the jacks and balls on the drawing-room floor.




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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0647
« on: February 27, 2014, 08:45:45 PM »
Fortunately for David, his father isn't dead. Elizabeth finds him at the bottom of the stairs. David and Amy wear their best innocent looks. Roger is sure someone inside the house tried to kill him. Elizabeth takes him upstairs. Downstairs and unseen by his father and his aunt, David twists the wire in his hands. Amy comes downstairs and reports that she woke Julia, who's getting dressed. What’s wrong? she asks. (Good grief.) Sad and frightened, David doesn’t reply.

As Elizabeth gets Roger a brandy--yes, he has some in his room!--she spots a tarot card--the Tower of Destruction--on the table. So welcome back, tarot cards. It wasn't there earlier, Roger says. Something is happening in our house. [But really, when is it not?] The kids visit him. He limps to the table with the brandy. David notices that he’s guarding his back, but Roger dismisses it. Why are you so concerned? he asks. I'll be all right in the morning. I’m so glad, Father, I’m so glad, David practically sobs as he gives Roger a hug. To his credit, Roger hugs him back.

Even though it's 1:00 a.m., Elizabeth phones Professor Stokes, who apparently is as much of a night owl as the Collinses. He agrees to come over (later) in the morning. When he arrives, he puts on his monocle to examine the card.

In the foyer, Amy remarks to David, You’re afraid to see Quentins. He calls you Jamison. He was my grandfather, David explains. [And yes, he is actually correct.] Quentin thinks you look exactly like Jamison, Amy says as if Quentin is paying David a great compliment. He told me to call you Jamison, too. You can ask him why, if we go upstairs, she wheedles. When they get to Quentin's Room, David calls out, Quentin! I won't do what you want anymore, not if it's like the last time! It's not fair to have me do things like that! Do you understand? The music begins to play. Quentin heard you, Amy explains. Maybe that's his answer. David becomes enthralled again as the music plays, and the cradle begins to rock. Jamison, you _do_ want to play the game! Amy says. Of course I do, David replies.

Welcome, Cavada Humphrey as Madame Janet Findley! I love her very first line: "Don’t tell me anything about the house, not the history nor personal experiences! I don't want to know what to expect!" She tries to reach her control--she's a medium--but Magda reaches out to her instead. (Good scream from CH here.)

The kids eavesdrop with increasing alarm. Stokes has to shake Mme. Findley out of her trance. She explains that there are two warring spirits in the house.

The kids race up to Quentin's Room, shouting that he has to tell them what to do!


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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0626
« on: February 27, 2014, 05:40:15 PM »
The gravestone bends and moves.

Well, we all know that at Collinwood, death is not necessarily inflexible.  [snow_cheesy]

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0645
« on: February 26, 2014, 10:39:56 PM »
Just wanted to add that the end of this episode (presumably aired on a Friday) is one of the scariest moments of the show. Imagine the fans' suspense over that weekend!

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0646
« on: February 26, 2014, 10:37:46 PM »
Quentin doesn’t say a word (and won’t for over fifty episodes). But then, he doesn't have to.

Beth is nearly as tall as Quentin. We will learn that her actual status in life was extremely humble, but she always carries herself as proudly as a queen.

This is when he and Beth bend the children to their will. The cast of this drama is now complete, and events will begin to unfold.

Once again, the kids pull the wool over all the adults' eyes when they lug Quentin's skeleton to the woods. David comments, His spirit is still alive, so there’s no need for a prayer. We'll return to Collinwood, play a while, and then get ready for tonight. Do you still not feel right about doing it? he asks. I'll do whatever you want, Amy replies. It's not what I want, David says, but what _he_--Quentin--wants. Do you understand? Yes, Amy says. Already fearful of Quentin’s wrath, David says, We don't want to make him angry, so we have to go through with it.

And yes, every time I've seen this episode it always looks as if Louis Edmonds did his own stunt--and very scary it is, too. Does anyone know if it was really him?

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0644
« on: February 26, 2014, 01:23:43 AM »
Thanks and apologies, MB. Sorry to make extra work for you.

This is such a suspenseful time in the story!  [snow_cheesy]

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0645
« on: February 25, 2014, 09:31:22 PM »
[spoiler]I have little or no memory of how 1897 happened "the first time around", because we didn't see that version, and were only given hints.   Did newly-minted ghost Quentin give instructions to a still-living Jamison like those he's giving to David now?  Were Q and Jamison ghost companions after his original death, haunting the rest of the family?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]No and no. A long, long time from now, we'll see how Quentin became a ghost, but for many reasons, he never gets to give any instructions to the still-living Jamison. But I suspect that Jamison is beyond Quentin's reach, so he wants to recruit David to become his ghost companion, also for many reasons.[/spoiler]

Almost forgot: Welcome, skeleton with gray page-boy wig! And welcome, old gramophone with morning-glory “speaker”!

And welcome back, Barnabas! Elizabeth arrives at the Old House and knocks on Barnabas's door. Barnabas, in a royal blue robe, answers. Elizabeth explains that she's looking for the kids. I don’t think they can be here, Barnabas replies. I locked both doors before going to bed. (Presumably he can sleep in a real bed in a bedroom these days--perhaps the room he had as a young man long ago, or more likely his father’s room.) A locked door never kept David Collins out, Elizabeth points out wryly. And of course, she's right.

Best scene in this ep. is where David and Amy completely pull the wool over the eyes of all the adults. Absolutely masterful performances by the kids--and I mean DH and DN too!

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Current Talk '14 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0645
« on: February 25, 2014, 09:11:18 PM »
We will see the moment of possession for each kid in the next episode.

I love the idea of Magda at large, roaming through the corridors while Quentin is stuck in the storage room.  [snow_cheesy]

I don't think David is completely taken over yet, but maybe Quentin can send him some kind of vibe despite being trapped.

I have always thought that the "Game" is Quentin's oh-so-seductive euphemism, custom tailored to be irresistibly appealing to the kids (especially David), for the mischief--and worse--that he wants the kids to perpetrate. [spoiler]I'm sure he used the same term with Jamison.[/spoiler] If he had called it, for example, [spoiler]"kill your father by fastening a tripwire on the Great Staircase"[/spoiler], even David might not have been so enthusiastic.