B: *rubs hands together* Yessss...yeessss....Yeeesss de plan is coming tagether master!

J: Oh really Barnabas! Your impressions of Igor just aren't funny! Go play with Willie!

Natalie: *gasp* Someone's stolen the drawing room!  But how did they get it through the doors?

Angelique, off screen, teaches Hallie how to use magic while being her own voodoo doll.

Adam-- An "I Can Read" book.

Stokes-- The secret of Barnabas Collins

Peter Bradford/Jeff Clarke/Ned Stuart/Charles Delaware Tate/Dirk Wilkins-- Some kissing, acting, cuddling, and emotional lessons

I think MsCriseyde is correct, that Shatner had his hand in a couple of Trek novels. I've seen a couple of them in a used bookstore near where I live. Maybe I'll drop by there and get the names of them next time I go out. I've also heard of his Tekwar series that Pansity spoke of. IIRC there's a number of books in that series.

I'm right there with you, Pansity! I think it would be good for writers to exchange critiques on each other's work. There's a group on AOL which is a writers group that does just this, not with FanFiction but with actual manuscripts that people want to have published. Alas, I've not been able to participate here lately, but hopefully once I go on break from school I'll be able to once again.

And in response to what Magnus said:

I think that there is a great fanbase out there for stories with Quentin (or anyone, really) in the world outside of Collinwood. A number of years ago I read a couple of stories that were all connected-- Like one story and then sequels-- by someone, whose name I can't for the life of me remember.

But, what I do remember about them is that they were VERY entertaining. I think I've read them on FanFiction.net as well as on some Yahoo Groups. I don't remember much about them except that they delt with Quentin being in Egypt and some sort of story there. Does anyone know the stories I'm talking about? I never finished reading the entire series, but I'd like to return to it when I get them time, because they were expertly written.

To Barnabas, and Julia, when she's in the past, Edward does not look just like Roger.   Carl doesn't look just like Willie Loomis.  They are only look-alikes to the viewer.

I'm not sure I follow here. What I THINK you're saying is that Prof. Stokes should know who she is without any explanation at all? He should automatically know that she is Angelique and that she is a witch? This is kind of fuzzy to me, because by this logic, and please explain it to me if I'm wrong, Angelique would only be a LOOK-A-LIKE to Cassandra, but not actually Cassandra herself. Same way with Edward and Roger, Carl and Willie, etc etc. So while she looks like Cassandra, she actually isn't (although she really is because the viewer knows that Angelique stays the same everywhere). So why then, couldn't Barnabas and Julia just tell Stokes that she looks like Cassandra but that her name is Angelique, and let Stokes go from there?

Or is this what you're already saying?

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Quote from: Brandon Collins on October 23, 2006, 04:33:48 AM

And while the cultural references in RtC didn't bother me too badly, the original DS never did this outside of the clothing. 

I'm a little confused by your statement.  Are you saying you feel that what was then the "present time" DS never used any cultural references, or that NONE of the storylines did?

 One case I remember in Leviathan where cultural references were used was in the is Grant Douglas Quentin or not storyline?  They specifically have him make a comment about Jenny Lind, an operatic soprano who was world famous when Quentin was a boy.  Haven't seen many of the present day eps lately, so that may be an isolated case.

 However, with 1897, the storyline I am most familiar with, they used many many references, not to historical events, but to cultural norms of the day (one example I can think of offhand is one instance where Quentin tried to warn Edward about something, and Edward scoffed it off as an opium dream.  Opium and its derivatives like Laudanum were legal then and sold openly, as well as being amongst the recreational drugs of choice of the rich.)  The fact that they did this sort of thing as often as they did established the characters in a specific time and place, giving the created world depth.

I'll do my best to answer you here given that I wrote that post over a month ago, and even though I've reviewed it, that doesn't mean I remember my motivations behind writing it. lol.

I think what I was trying to say that the original DS episodes didn't really drop references to the outside world that much, or at least not ones that I noticed. You mention 1897 references. Though I'm interested in history, I'm no buff, so it's unlikely that I'd catch these references. And I didn't live in the 60s and 70s, though I can infer some references from what I do know about the time period, but again, some references may escape me. I used the clothing example because obviously the clothing worn in the original series was from the 60s and 70s, and that is the most obvious example of a reference to the outside world, although it couldn't really be helped.

Ultimately, what I was talking about or comparing was the fact that in the 04 Pilot Vicki mentions to Roger that she recognizes him from his article in Forbes magazine. You never heard any mention of something like Life magazine or any other magazine popular during the 60s and 70s. And in RtC someone, I think it's Willie, mentions eBay. The internet didn't exist in the 60s and 70s for large portions of the population, so they couldn't have mentioned it and expected people to know what they were talking about. But, they also never mentioned the Vietnam War, which was going on during that time.

Hope this helps to get my point across a little better.