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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: February 13, 2014, 05:43:30 AM »
Wow, I'm already thinking how much better the WB pilot seems, thus far, compared with the Burton/Depp opus.  I'm not going to pursue the comparison because I really think we're dealing with apples vs. oranges even if "it's all Dark Shadows."

I think what is bothering me is the completely "modern" feel I get from the written dialogue, hence the problem I think any writer faces when attempting to write "Dark Shadows" characters into the modern day.  I really think places like Collinsport and its people belong to the 20th century, though I am enjoying the pilot's Roger and Willie a great deal.  Victoria comes off as a bit too "turn of the twenty-first century" for my taste, and I'm not sure what's going on with Liz...  Both of those characters were well-executed in the Burton film, if lacking screentime.  Needless to say, I am anxious for the arrival of Barnabas.  Maybe he will send things back to the "classic age" of vampire dramas.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: February 11, 2014, 04:56:10 AM »
I'm fascinated by how two different versions of Vicki's arrival at Collinwood are playing out simultaneously here in different slide shows...

So far I am enjoying the Burton version far more.  That being said, I love the Burton film until Barnabas gets released.  We'll see if my loyalties shift, as I'm a bit on the fence about the pilot's characterizations at this point.  The Burton film's characterizations were pretty decent.  What they did or didn't do with the characters was the problem.  But, I can't wait to see the rest of the '04 script to get a feel for where these characters might have gone. 

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: DS Caribbean Cruise 2015
« on: February 09, 2014, 12:22:33 AM »
Seven days... stuck... on a cruise ship...   

This may not end well. 

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: OT: Sam Hall Lawsuit
« on: February 05, 2014, 02:23:29 AM »
There is a video interview with Sam on one of the DVDs (and thus, the interview pre-dates the inception of the Burton/Depp film project) where he takes credit for the creation of Angelique Collins.

Interesting!  I wonder if there will be a suit involving Depp Shadows then...   [snow_smileydevil]

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: OT: Thayer David in Nero Wolfe
« on: February 01, 2014, 04:56:46 AM »
Nero Wolfe is starting in a few minutes!  I'm really excited to see it. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: January 31, 2014, 01:56:21 AM »
I was disappointed with the lack of "George" as well. 

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It never occurred to me that Barnabas may have had anything to do with the death of Burke.  I always took the incident at face-value.  It was convenient for Barnabas, and would have led to great plot development had the writers never introduced Jeff Clark.   [snowball]

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: January 17, 2014, 07:20:32 AM »
I had the exact same thought! 

I followed the making of this pilot rather closely and, while I don't recall many specifics now, I remember hearing about a lot of fireworks between the second (?) director and the other creatives involved.  It's fascinating to read how his vision differs from the scripted vision.  I guess we regular members will have to wait until December to determine which one was better.  [cold-weather]

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: January 17, 2014, 01:55:28 AM »
Really hating the "No offense" line today.  Eww...  Dark Shadows calls for far better dialogue than that. Anything that includes that terribly adolescent phrase is...  [snow_strange] It makes Vicki sound like a 13-year-old. 

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Calendar Events / Announcements '14 I / Re: OT: Sam Hall Lawsuit
« on: January 12, 2014, 01:36:35 AM »
That would be really interesting!  I'm trying to think what he could sue over, though...  Art Wallace gets the credit for the main family.  Barnabas and Julia were introduced before his arrival.  That leaves... Angelique. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: January 11, 2014, 08:53:54 AM »
I love the description from the script.  That sounds like classic DS right there, much like the Barnabas "stalking" scenes in HoDS and the '91 series. 


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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: January 10, 2014, 05:51:21 AM »
I had the same thought. 

I wonder if John August had access to the pilot's script and drew inspiration from it...  It's a great invention.  I think it was pulled off excellently in Depp Shadows; and the logical character to have such a role would be Josette's Ghost instead of this demon creature.  However, if this Vicki were, in fact, the physical and spiritual reincarnation of Josette, then it probably would not have worked in the pilot.  Needless to say, I'm interested in this demon character and where they might have taken it. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: January 10, 2014, 01:49:40 AM »
The voiceover is interesting.  It's certainly not something I would have expected to hear at the time, because it's a significant departure from the more sweepingly Gothic, traditional VO of the OS and the '91 series.  Even Depp Shadows had a VO that was more traditional.  I'll be interested in seeing how the rest of the show shapes up. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: January 06, 2014, 05:10:16 AM »
Oooo!  That is wonderful, MB.  Can't wait to see what sort of characters they were!

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: January 04, 2014, 01:19:57 AM »
She did arrive in October, at least if we are to believe her arrival is within days of that of Barnabas.  Willie tells Barnabas "It's October.  That's why there's pumpkins."  A true statement -- pumpkins in a small garden would generally not be that ripe until October.