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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 28, 2005, 01:47:20 AM »
Sorry, if you thought I was trying to imply that this forum should become homebase for discussion of the wiki creation.  I was just suggesting that if people are having trouble figuring out the wiki's communication system, they could post they're questions in this thread until they get the hang of it.  We're all still here for Dark Shadows, after all.  I'd've thought that any discussion about DS would be welcomed.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 27, 2005, 08:27:39 PM »
Well obviously, the best way to offer your suggestions would be to be bold and go ahead and add them to the site! ;)  Or you can post them either here in this thread, or preferably on the actual site under the Discussion tab for whichever topic you have.  For a general suggestion about the site or a suggestion on something that doesn't exist yet on the site, you can add it to the Community Portal or its Discussion page.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 26, 2005, 11:43:27 PM »
Haha, possibly I suppose.  I just wasn't about to assume that since I got asked the same question twice that it was the same person asking.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 26, 2005, 10:12:27 PM »
Of course contributors should be contacting each other to discuss how things should be done, but where you write it depends on what you plan to talk about.  If you want to discuss something in a specific article that you think should be changed or added or whatever, you can post your thoughts in the Discussion page for that specific article.  If you want to ask a question of a specific editor about what they're doing, you can post the question in that person's Discussion page.  There are also other areas (or if there aren't, they can be created) such as the Community Portal, where general discussion about the wiki can be posted.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 26, 2005, 09:44:05 PM »
Each person (just like each article) has their own "discussion" page.  As far as I know, you can't send private messages like on a messageboard, though.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 26, 2005, 10:43:23 AM »
Out of curiosity, who here is Mysticpen?

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 25, 2005, 11:39:19 PM »
I answered this question in my TALK page on the site, but I might as well put it here, too.

When I get around to filling in the timeline information that I have for each year, this will become clear.  A couple years ago, I began creating a very detailed timeline of events of the show... a massive headache at times, as you can imagine (though the early episodes actually do hold up pretty well).  I've currently only gotten up to about episode 180 so far (the file's about 1Mb in size right now already), but it's pretty evident that the timeline in the show (and most soap operas) doesn't sync up with the rate at which time progressed in "real life."  For example, the first seventy episodes of Dark Shadows take place merely over one week in the lives of the Collinsport residents! That's an average of two weeks of our time per one day in Collinsport.  Naturally over time, things don't quite line up.  The first time the year is actually mentioned on the show is during a 1967 episode.  Backdating, you will learn that Victoria and Burke's train actually arrived in Collinsport in 1967!  Fortunately, this is consistent with David's age being given as nine in both '66 and '67 epsides, as well as Liz's time on the hill being eighteen years.

I hope that clears things up.  Placing the "contemporary" episodes in the year they aired doesn't make the timeline work.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 25, 2005, 09:10:53 PM »
For the sake of completeness, all contradictory information will be noted somewhere in encyclopedia.

I can see two types of instances.  The first is where something changed and (usually) the latter is considered "canon".  An example would be Josette's death being in the 18th century rather than the 19th century.  In this case, the more accepted time period (18th Century) gets precedence in any articles obviously, since this is what we actually saw.  This contradiction could be noted either in the actual text or as a footnote.  So, a note like "The Collins family album mistakenly lists Josette's life from 1810-1834." could appear in the article proper, or be placed as an italics footnote: "In episode 52, Josette's birth and death years were given as 1810 and 1834 respectively.  This was alterered when blah blah blah."

The second type of instance would be where neither piece of information has any more credence over the other.  This may be because both were mentioned only one time in the same manor and can't be reconciled, but don't contradict any other accepted facts.  In this case, it's probably best to list both pieces of information in a neutral way and let the reader pick which they prefer to believe.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: the "language" of d.s.
« on: September 24, 2005, 10:50:41 PM »
Heh heh, Dr. Seuse would love this thread.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 23, 2005, 07:25:02 AM »
Well, I've gotten stuff for the wiki done up to the 5th episode of the original series.  That doesn't sound like much, but it really is a lot of tedious work, especially at the beginning.  I'm going through the episodes in order, adding all information as it's revealed, so even though I'm fully aware of much of what is changed later on, I'm not bothering to add anything until I get to the actual episode it's revealed.  This way, all of the information will be properly sourced.  Of course, anyone is welcome to pick it up at another point in the series and start going from there.  There's a "Community Portal" section of the site with some examples of places people could start submitting information.  Anyway, here's the link:

http://darkshadows.wikicities.com.

Let me know what you guys think, and if or how you can contribute.  The wiki editor is extremely easy to figure out and if anyone has any questions, there are several information sources that explain things if I can't do it for you.  And like I said, even if no one else is able to work on this with me, it's still something I'll continue to stumble through, because I think it'lll be an awesome resource site when it's "done."

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Very much OT, but of interest to the forum...
« on: September 23, 2005, 07:13:40 AM »
Sounds awesome!  Let us know how/if we can hear it.  I'm very excited, but then again I love that kind of thing.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Favorite Charactors
« on: September 19, 2005, 06:42:54 AM »
Quote from: Raineypark on September 18, 2005, 10:40:02 PM
Sam Hall was the Writer.

Sam Evans was the Artist.

Haha, I meant to say Mark Allen!  I went to school with a guy named Mark Hall, so I'm wondering if I was getting them all mixed up.  :-

Quote from: Professor1985 on September 18, 2005, 10:36:38 PM
My favorite character on DARK SHADOWS is Maggie Evans (KLS), she's a real sex-symbol, she has the best legs on TV and stylish than Alexandra Moltke, Lara Parker, and Nancy Barrett. :)

OMG, yes.  KLS certainly is by far the most beautiful woman on the show.  *Sigh*

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: If you could show two consecutive episodes to someone...
« on: September 19, 2005, 06:36:42 AM »
Haha, so funny because I just got my cousin into the show last night.  As I'm a fan of the early episodes anyway, I decided to start him at the beginning, though.  He doesn't even know anything about Dark Shadows, so he thinks it's just a regular old soap opera, so far.  I told him it gets much "better" later on, but he doesn't know about vampires or witches or time travel yet.  Should be fun... if he stays interested.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Favorite Charactors
« on: September 18, 2005, 07:49:20 PM »
Being a big fan of the pre-B episodes, I really love the Burke-Sam-Roger triangle.  With Mitch Ryan and David Ford, of course.  While I thought Sam Hall was alright, I hated Anthony George as Burke.  So, yeah my favorite character is constantly switching between those three.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '05 II / Re: Collinwiki?
« on: September 16, 2005, 08:39:34 PM »
On the contrary, chatting and blogging are generally fobidden on wikis.  Discussions are only encouraged when it pertains to the betterment of the site and it's specific articles.  The idea is solely to collaboratively create an encyclopedic reference sourse for a specific topic.

Wikis are designed to be simple to use, in order enable the maximum number of participants.  I posted a couple of links above, but once again here are some excellent examples of wikis using the MediaWiki software:

* http://www.wikipedia.org - A massive encyclopedia of every topic.  You've probably stumbled upon this at some point even if you didn't know it.
* http://www.memory-alpha.org - A Star Trek wiki, probably the largest fan-based wiki online.
* http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Main_Page - A Star Wars wiki similar to the one above.
* http://doom.wikicities.com/wiki/Entryway - A wiki pertaining to all things related to the Doom series of video games.

Being a big fan of Dark Shadows, I naturally felt the format would lend itself nicely to our favorite soap opera as well.  Until recently, I too had been unfamilar/uninterested in the concept, but upon further investigation, I've found the format fascinating and the syntax extremely simple.

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