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How long did it take you to get all of that info written out and HTMLedized and stuffs?? jooc  :D  ;)

Too long -- LOL.  Glad you like it, though :)

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Just to update, I've just added some new material on the MPI range of "Dark Shadows" DVDs:

Alan Hayes has provided fans with a detailed review from advance copies of "Dark Shadows DVD Collection 1", and I've also added the official MPI press release for the new releases, which reproduces facts and commentary directly from the Dark Shadows Journal Online.

Access the new pages from the site homepage :)

Cheers

Stuart
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Visit the Dark Shadows Journal Online:
http://www.collinwood.net

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: DS - X-Files Connection??
« on: May 25, 2002, 06:55:12 PM »
Another DS connection [sorta] is that Roy Thinnes (1991 Roger) had a prominent guestspot in one of the season finales a few years ago.

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The Dark Shadows Journal Online | Updates to the site this week include...

* Episode Guide -- 30 new summaries added
* New biography of Marie Wallace
* News
* This Week on Dark Shadows


Cheers

Stuart
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Visit the Dark Shadows Journal Online:
http://www.collinwood.net

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: O. T.....but maybe not.
« on: May 24, 2002, 07:59:16 PM »
OMG -- I'd completely forgetten about the Moon Poppy [tm], another plant which someone tried to eat... [seeing a trend]

Yes, the Moon Poppy was a classic -- a silk and plastic legend in its own lifetime ;)

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: O. T.....but maybe not.
« on: May 24, 2002, 07:45:33 PM »
Well Stokes was probably just enjoying watching Roger Davis look like a fool ;)  Least, that's my theory...

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: O. T.....but maybe not.
« on: May 24, 2002, 05:49:32 PM »
The only one I can think of is where Jeff asks Stokes to help with get back to 1795...  Stokes holds a ceremony which... erm... involves Jeff eating leaves.

No, I didn't quite get it, either ;)

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: am i a nerd?
« on: May 24, 2002, 05:40:01 PM »
Actually, I think DS bit a fair bit of "model" casting -- no offence to any of the performers, but if you look at that cast, it's pretty obvious that it forms two tiers:  There's a senior cast of heavyweight character actors who carry the stories, and a junior cast of attractive, inexperienced performers who tend not to play a major part in the stories but garnered the show a lot of valuable publicity by looking pretty in magazines, etc.  

Now obviously, that's a big generalisation -- there were good and bad actors in both camps -- but that's pretty much the same way things work today.  Even the better soaps like "EastEnders" suffer from it a great deal.  I guess it's the nature of trying to produce a mass-market piece of television, which is the main thing working in this format is about.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / Re: Dark Shadows Monopoly
« on: May 23, 2002, 02:04:48 PM »
Very cute -- have you thought about making an actual version of the game, maybe adapting an existing Monopoly board?

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: am i a nerd?
« on: May 23, 2002, 01:03:14 PM »
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I have struggling actor friends, who trust me, do not have the luxury of picking and choosing roles in television shows from networks third rated or no.  I cannot believe that the situation in NYC in the late sixties was any different than it is today.

There's two side to that argument -- on one level, there's the problem of good theatre actors sometimes making lousy television actors and vice versa, and on another level, there's also the time constraints of making soaps -- once a decision has been made to introduce a character, scripts have usually been written or plotted before the casting begins.  Therefore, if the right performer didn't turn up during the audition rounds, it's a case of having to go with the least worst and hoping for the best, simply because time's run out and there's no option of abandoning things.  

Casting is a really delicate art, especially for long-term roles like these.  And in this particular format, luck plays a big part, as when the right elements fail to come together, it's terribly unforgiving for all involved.

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: am i a nerd?
« on: May 23, 2002, 04:47:40 AM »
Re: The novices thing...

Bear in mind that "Dark Shadows", especially in the early days, was an underfunded soap from a producer with no track record, on a network firmly entrenched in third place...  For those reasons, it was rarely able to offer much reward for an actor, either financially or career-wise.  For this reason, the majority of the young cast were relatively inexperienced, simply because those with proven track records were usually getting better offers and salaries elsewhere.  

Kudos to those involved, however, for assembling a cast of the quality they acheived under those circumstances, because it was frequently far better than they really could have expected.  

Fore example, it's common knowledge that Grayson Hall did the show initially because she had bills to pay and a family to support, and if we're being honest, looking over her resume prior to the show, the work was beneath her to a certain degree.  However, for the experienced performers in the cast, there was the enticement of the wide range of character roles the series offered, and I guess that's what ultimately attracted so many talented individuals to the show's ranks.

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Yikes! What is with that cover!?  Does this mean that one of the long-lost scenes features a gurning horror head menacing a... erm... church? ;)

Almost as funny as the UK HODS poster, starring Jon Pertwee as Willie Loomis...

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Worst dress ever???
« on: May 23, 2002, 04:34:19 AM »
Anything in that supernaturally hideous shade of lime green -- the one that apparently exists in a special spectrum only found in "Dark Shadows" episodes ;)

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: am i a nerd?
« on: May 22, 2002, 02:45:50 AM »
Very true Vlad -- soaps are weird beasts by their nature, trying to create a consistent product in a medium that's inconsistent by its day-to-day nature.

If we're being honest, they are very few truly amazing episodes of "Dark Shadows" -- I'd say that most of the time, only about 50% of what's attempted comes off.  It's hardly ever quite as polished, dramatic, witty or well acted as it could be.  What I think really engages the viewer, however, is the show's complete all-or-nothing approach -- that sense of incredible ambition in the face of zero resources and time.  

The best elements of "Dark Shadows" are not the product of considered thought and diligent preparation -- instead it's a sort of good natured "let's put on a show!" vibe.  And most of the time, that enthusiasm and sense of adrenaline is all that's needed to make the show enjoyable.

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: am i a nerd?
« on: May 21, 2002, 07:49:15 PM »
There's no real middle ground with "Dark Shadows" -- people either seem to love it or hate it.

And I suppose that's not entirely surprising.  On a technical and stylistic level, it really represents an era of television that just doesn't exist any more.  Viewers today watching the show are continually asked to overlook the shortcomings of a frantic, underfunded production, something they otherwise simply don't experience.

"Dark Shadows" is a curate's egg throughout -- if you're willing to take the leap and enjoy it at face value without cynicism, it's amongst some of the most rewarding television you're ever likely to encounter.

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