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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 29, 2012, 04:00:01 AM »
Honestly, it feels like it will be one of those "Halloween" films, the ones like Hocus Pocus and Nightmare Before Christmas.  It just has that sort of feel to it.  And that may be how it will live on.  Just a hypothesis. 

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Sorry, but the Forums have long not accepted song parodies.

Huh...  Who knew what a "filk song" was...  Learn something new every day. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 21, 2012, 12:38:27 AM »
I just bought the score at Best Buy.  They had three in stock, and a special placement card for it.  Very nice to see.  Only 9.99.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 20, 2012, 11:19:52 PM »
Lots of love for Dark Shadows in Japan and France.  That is good to hear... and it makes sense.  I wonder if that will be enough for Warner Bros. to look into additional avenues. 

Thanks for the links, everyone. 

And, yes, drinking soda while at a movie like Shadows is a huge no-no!   [ghost_cheesy]

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 20, 2012, 09:19:14 PM »
My take on the Barnabas catching on fire scene reads thusly:   [ghost_wink]

Burton took one of the most dramatic scenes in the film and took us out of the moment with comedy...  Why?  Because that is how he saw the original series playing out a lot of the time.  There would be a great bit of drama, and then someone would flub a line and kill it.  I think that is the effect he was going for here.  And he really succeeded.  Everyone was just standing around trying not to notice (a la the actors in the original series when one of their fellow players messed up).  And then they picked up and carried on with the rest of the scene.  It was a fairly genius concept.  But not something other people would pick up on.  But I think this scene captures the tone Burton had in mind from the beginning.  Whether it works on the level I believe it was intended is another matter, but that is the purpose of the scene in my opinion.   


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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 20, 2012, 07:35:37 AM »
I find it atrocious how much of this film we didn't see.  I honestly feel that a three hour DS movie would have been fine, and then the climax would have worked better.  It wouldn't have been so uneven and so choppy.  As fans of the show, we can appreciate a lot of the little story details that are merely referenced.  But I can't see how this movie makes a great deal of sense to the general public.  Sure there exists a basic storyline that everyone can follow.  But I can't help but think the average moviegoer who actually cares about plot doesn't feel a little left in the dark when it comes to the story.  There is so little about so many of the characters, namely Victoria.  I feel that her explanation of her past was rushed.  And it looks like it was initially longer.  These flashbacks and montages have a lot in them, and they leave viewers to guess at certain plot points, because they don't fully flesh out the details.  I really, really want to see the Victoria story (and her relationship with Barnabas) told in full. 

In all honesty, I think that the mistakes made with the storytelling decisions are the biggest tribute to the show.  Because this movie manages to recreate so many of the plot development mistakes in the original show.  The only thing it manages to correct is offering an identity to the governess.  Other than that, the underdeveloped romance, the lack of plot for major family members, the monster-mash finale...  All things done in the original that shouldn't have been repeated.  And I frankly think Warner Bros. had a lot to do with it.  Like SGS, I'd like to see a director's cut of this film released, but I doubt that is likely.       

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 20, 2012, 12:07:57 AM »
It's odd because I don't see anything negative on Facebook.  Then again, I don't use it for social groups or anything like that - just to keep in touch. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 19, 2012, 07:51:23 AM »
I went to a retailer today in search of the score.  And I could not find it.  I love it so much.  It's not perfect, but it would have been had Elfman just finished what he started in the last few seconds of Track 19.   [ghost_wink]

There is no real theme here, other than the "Love" Theme and "Widows' Hill," and I feel that appropriate since nothing can replace the original.  If I can find this CD in the stores, I will definitely pick it up.  I couldn't believe how little of Elfman's score actually made it into the final cut of the movie.  What was there was powerful, though.  It seems as if the middle part of the movie was carried by the 70s tracks.  To me, it seemed like a lot of those snippets of scenes, especially the ones that were seen during "Top of the World" were actually intended to be full scenes.  But they went the montage route to save time.  And while "Top of the World" was quite hilarious (and one of my favorite non-traditional things in the film), I felt that condensing those parts really took core parts our of the story, especially in regards to the Barnabas-Maggie relationship.  The Barnabas/Maggie-Vicki walk was great though, and that marks the 3rd time that has been done.  I guess it has become a necessity.  (And it's fine by me, since those scenes are some of my favorites in the previous incarnations.) 

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I don't understand how they can sell the Lara Parker novels and not these as well. 

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I am not going to comment on Vampirella for the time being...  But I will say that that Barnabas  (Barnadepp methinks) is ten million times better looking than the Barnabas in the film or the Barnabas in Issue 5, who looks like a prune.  (I honestly can't get through it.  The prunes!  The ruins!)


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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 17, 2012, 03:19:42 AM »
If we do see other DS films, which I am still uncertain of at this point, I wonder if they will come in the form of sequels or reboots.  I wouldn't necessarily mind a reboot.  Burton has had his vision of "Dark Shadows."  And it was his vision.  We have to respect that.  But I'd love for another director, screenwriter to be brought on board for a different take on the material.  IMO, you can maintain Depp as Barnabas, but it needs a fresh perspective.  There was only so much you could do with the 70s music and the cute montages...  It can't continue and be anywhere as effective, despite the fact that I didn't think it was all that effective here.  So how about 1795 on film?  Or Dark Shadows without Barnabas?  The character set-up was so good before he arrived, and then it all went to pieces.  Kind of like in the original.   [ghost_wink] 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 17, 2012, 02:06:09 AM »
If they keep marketing Shadows as they are, I can't imagine a different kind of audience.  If they actually represented the whole film in their ads, maybe...

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 16, 2012, 06:01:23 AM »
Okay, so I saw the film.  I will write more later, but I have to say I was not disappointed like I thought I would be.  It was a decent movie.  I love how the movie was broken up by the crashing waves...  Episode breaks.  Probably the biggest homage to the original in there.  Barnabas's verbatim line to Victoria = love.  Wish there could have been more.  Less humor, less sex and it would have been golden.  (There were seriously awkward moments in this film that everyone in the theater was made uncomfortable by...  And I can say everyone, because there were only 9, and they were all sitting around me.  Two people left in the middle of the picture.  But I didn't find anything so offensive that I would have to leave.  The sex-related material was not overplayed.  There was just a little too much of it... like every other scene for awhile there.  And I think this couple had enough of it.)  More later...  3/5 stars. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 13, 2012, 06:55:24 PM »
Quote from: review in Detroit News
How bad is "Dark Shadows"? It makes you long for a "Twilight" movie. That's bad.

Despite the fact that I have yet to see it, that seriously made me  [a1f5].  I want to enjoy it like many of you, but I fear I may have a similar reaction.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120511/ENT02/205110317/1034/Review-Depp-Burton-s-Dark-Shadows-terribly-dull

Now with both audience and critic reaction in the rotten categories on RT, I wonder if Warner Bros. is happy with the route they took with this film.


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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: May 12, 2012, 04:49:55 AM »
Michael, I like how you promptly changed your profile image back to Victoria Winters.   [ghost_cheesy]