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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: July 19, 2012, 07:05:58 AM »
I caught a bit of the Ellen interview today, but I had to turn it off when they brought up "bad acting" again.  Why was this such a focal point of the movie's direction?  Yes, there was bad acting on DS, but it wasn't all that often. 
 

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: The Creepiness of Anthony George
« on: July 18, 2012, 05:14:09 AM »
Ryan was not ousted because of the actor's strike, and I don't think there were plans to phase Burke out at the time of the replacement.  The actions taken on the part of actors (and the subsequent consequences) during the strike happened a couple months later.  And I still can't forgive Curtis for having Gerringer replaced.   [ghost_mad]

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: The Creepiness of Anthony George
« on: July 17, 2012, 10:34:34 PM »
Haha, Magnus.  It has been a while since I have seen 1795, but I am getting there quickly in my viewing.  So I will come back with more thoughts after seeing him again.  All I know is that I didn't have an immense dislike for him like I did when he played Burke.  And I usually really like DS actors in particular roles or hate them, which is why George's Jeremiah is an interesting case I will have to review again. 

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: ** BIG CHANGES COMING FOR THE NEW YEAR **
« on: July 17, 2012, 09:12:36 AM »
I just want to say that I love the fact that we have a still of Angelique's portrait as today's image.  It's like she's watching over all of us!  How cool would it be to have different portraits "hung" around the site?  Our own guardian ghosts!  I wonder how many portraits could be featured as the main image before they would have to repeat... 

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: The Creepiness of Anthony George
« on: July 17, 2012, 09:04:52 AM »
I like Anthony George as Jeremiah; he's much more believable.  Perhaps I take issue with his take on Burke and the way the character is written because the pre-Barnabas storyline (the whole thing) is one of my absolute favorites.  I dislike where they took the Devlin character after the vampire's arrival.  He was made to be almost completely different (and in such a short time!).  Burke as portrayed by Ryan was one of my favorite characters on the series.  I cheered for him almost as much I cheered for Joan.  He was a terrific anti-hero and very well played.  The new identity they gave Burke, the softer side he adopted, his attitude and outlook...  it wasn't Burke Devlin as I had originally seen him.  And that is why I'd rather he had just gone away.   

It's interesting to note that I can hear Ryan delivering a lot of George's lines immediately following his being re-cast.  But, as the series progresses, I don't hear Ryan delivering many of the lines written for the new Burke.  I've always wondered how the famous "duel'' scene would've played out with Ryan.  I'm not sure it could have happened. 

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: The Creepiness of Anthony George
« on: July 17, 2012, 05:28:34 AM »
I've spent a good deal of time studying those credits, and it's the only plausible theory I see.  It's especially interesting to watch the climb of Jonathan Frid's name.  If not for the "biggest star angle," why else would Frid be given first billing, Grayson second, etc. for most of the run of the show (discounting Joan Bennett)?   (I suppose this is another thread.  [ghost_wink])

But regardless, George received first billing (again w/o Joan) from his first appearance, just as Ryan had since the beginning of the series. 

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: The Creepiness of Anthony George
« on: July 17, 2012, 05:13:43 AM »

Anthony George did not get "star billing."  The only actors who received special billing on DS were Moltke and Joan Bennett.  In the final few months Jonathan Frid finally got the special billing he had deserved since 1967.  Everyone else on the series was just billed as name and role.


But Anthony George was billed first when Joan Bennett was not in a show and second when she was (just as Frid was after his departure.)  I consider that, in terms of the DS universe, "star billing," because that's just how the cookie crumbled in the credits.  The biggest "star" in any given show was listed first. 

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: The Creepiness of Anthony George
« on: July 17, 2012, 02:56:05 AM »
for what it's worth ryan's departure was very, very abrupt. at the very least they had a storyline to finish out.


and i believe at the time of his departure frid/barnabas was still on the 'thirteen week' cycle. barnabas was the one who was supposed to end up with a stake through his heart.

it was a very uncertain, up in the air time on the series and the producers did what they thought best.

All very true.  But Ryan had had his big scene.  The storyline was no longer focused on Burke.  It had gone off the deep-end into supernatural territory, regardless of the longevity of the Barnabas character.  The family competition, the cannery, everything was gone, and Burke didn't seem to serve a useful purpose after Ryan left.  In all likelihood, I would have been better able to accept the new Burke had they had the character leave for several months and then return.  It was a poor decision to immediately recast imo (just as with Vicki, though Vicki's case was a little more pressing), but that's hindsight. 

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: The Creepiness of Anthony George
« on: July 17, 2012, 02:28:55 AM »
Well, I understand that, but the move was unnecessary.  As tragic bat points out, Mitch Ryan's Burke would probably never have been able to settle down and live a normal life.  It's like the character did a 360, and I would have rather had a new character or Frank Garner fill the role of Vicki's love interest.  The decision to keep the character after his purpose was fulfilled, after the show had moved into a new direction, and after the first actor departed was a poor one.  The fact that we are left wit these uncomfortable scenes is evidence of that.   [ghost_wink]

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: The Creepiness of Anthony George
« on: July 17, 2012, 01:50:22 AM »
I have never cared for Anthony George's Burke Devlin.  I like his scenes with AM as much as I like those AM shares with Roger Davis.  Nearly every one of them is uncomfortable to watch.  I really wished that they would have killed Burke off when Mitch Ryan departed.  He got what he wanted.  He could have left.  It would have made these episodes much more bearable.  Another thing that bothers me is how the writers view the Burke Devlin role as the male lead.  If anything, there was no male lead after Burke's initial storyline wrapped.  He was a secondary character, yet Anthony George got star billing.  There's nothing interesting about this Burke Devlin.  He doesn't have a story or a cause.  He's lost in a vampire story that doesn't involve him.  His presence just bothers me.  I am glad I am not alone. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: hoDS/NoDS DVD Release?
« on: July 13, 2012, 08:44:14 PM »
Yeah, I too was suprised there was no mention of "Academy Award nominee" Grayson Hall or "Emmy winner" John Karlen, Kate Jackson (nominee), etc.  Maybe it will pop up on the bacK?  And while we're at it, how about "film legend" before Joan Bennett's name?   [ghost_wink]

I never imagined a more anti-climactic fallout from this new movie.

Tell me about it.   [ghost_closedeyes]




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Current Talk '24 I / Re: hoDS/NoDS DVD Release?
« on: July 13, 2012, 12:05:56 AM »
That's very reasonable for these bare bones releases.  Would I gladly pay $20 for bonus features?  Yes, I would.  Would I gladly pay $30.00 for the restoration?  Yes, I would.  Does Warner Bros. care at this point?  No, they do not.   [ghost_closedeyes]

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: hoDS/NoDS DVD Release?
« on: July 12, 2012, 08:15:33 AM »
I sincerely hope that the cover doesn't have that mistake, jimbo.   [ghost_sad]

It's interesting whose names went on each cover.  For HoDS, it's Jonathan and Joan, something I love very much, despite the fact that I don't think Joan has a large enough role in this film to warrant it.  But I am not complaining.   [ghost_wink]  (The VHS only listed Frid.)

For NoDS, however, I don't know why David Selby's is the only name.  The old VHS gave Kate Jackson the top billing followed by David.  I guess her name isn't that recognizable anymore? 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: hoDS/NoDS DVD Release?
« on: July 12, 2012, 03:15:08 AM »
I agree, but we could have had these released years ago.  It is my understanding that they were pushed back because of Depp Shadows, presumably as a tie-in or as a follow-up.  So when the decision was made to hold off on them (and later reversed), it is my interpretation that this decision had to do directly with Depp Shadows. 

It is tangled, as you said.  It is my hope that we will learn everything at some point.  I understand that it can't be discussed now, but the whole thing is so strange and frustrating.  GAH! 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: hoDS/NoDS DVD Release?
« on: July 12, 2012, 01:17:19 AM »
Well, this is all I know.  We were supposed to get the unrestored releases on DVD years ago.  They were delayed because of the new Dark Shadows.  The thinking is they would be released around the same time, but then they were pushed back so as to separate the titles. 

Then Depp Shadows is being promoted and something caused Home Entertainment to change the date of the release again. 

Now, the packaging plays up the original series as opposed to Depp Shadows.  Like you said, MB, there could be something on the back or, like I said, there could be some marketing tie-in.  But I find it strange that all of this went down and now the TV Show is being used as the promotional tool as opposed to Depp Shadows.  What does that lead us to believe?  I have no idea, but I think it's clear that Depp Shadows played a part. 

Why wait to release the movies until Depp Shadows came out, then opt to separate the release dates, then reverse that decision, release them closer to the debut of Depp Shadows, and then fail to mention Depp Shadows on the front covers?   [ghost_wacko]

As for the art, I don't dislike it.  It's actually what I was expecting.