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I went to see 21 Jump Street this evening. 

[spoiler]Since Johnny Depp was actually in the original (which was not a comedy) and has a cameo in this theatrical version that makes no bones about being a comedy, I think it makes for an interesting juxtaposition with his appearance in Dark Shadows

There are a couple of lines of fascinating dialogue where a character talks about them revisiting old projects from the past in part because the powers that be have run out of original ideas and have to resort to rehashing old ideas that didn't quite work the first time.  It's done in reference to police projects, but you can almost see Nick Offerman winking at the camera in acknowledgement of the fact that it's really a reference to remaking old TV shows into movies.[/spoiler]

I was struck by the MIB3 trailer, because the gist of this one is that J has to go back in time to 1969, where it appears the bulk of the action will take place.  In other words, there will be at least 2 movies that deal with a "fish out of water" appearing in the late '60's/early '70's that are coming out this summer.  I suspect there will be many comparisons of the two movies that will analyze which one does a better job.  It's probably fortuitous for WB that Dark Shadows will be coming out a couple of weeks before MIB3

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i'm sort of indifferent to the tongue but what i can't get is why the film's promotional team keeps beating the 'chevy' joke into the ground?

The only thing I can figure is they want to showcase Pfeiffer.  And maybe that is one of her few "one liners" in the film.  (See that bit of hopeful thinking I injected into that notion?  Though I would not mind Liz having a million one liners directed to/about Roger.)

Or perhaps Chevy paid a hefty fee and WB is making sure they got their money's worth.  Given the golden arches in at least one of the spots, I presume McDonalds has also signed a sponsorship deal. 

Then again, there seem to be at least two VW vans in Collinsport (one outside the movie theater, one parked in the Collinwood driveway). 

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I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but I just noticed in that last spot that the portrait of Barnabas appears to bleed out of his eyes as the camera moves back.  Since they also show blood coming out of his eyes as he is (presumably) being transformed into a vampire, I got something of a Quentin's painting vibe.

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The third and final spot from the weekend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWK3wSVLShI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[spoiler]I guess that ends the mystery of whether (at least) Elizabeth knows Barnabas' secret.[/spoiler]

Sigh...

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First off, let me say that I LOVE this new commercial for the film!

I did not notice that new commercial during the basketball games today, but I did see what I presume to be the same commercial I saw on Friday night.  It was much more similar to the trailer that had previously been released, although it included a scene with Barnabas standing in the street as a car whizzes by.  It's funny, the scene I had previously described as having Barnabas hanging upside down and looking in through a window is the same scene with Roger kissing somebody.  How did I notice Barnabas and fail to notice the action in front of me?  Sadly, it also did include a scene with Barnabas on the floor surrounded by a bunch of styrofoam packing peanuts. 

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Luck today! I was just scanning through the basketball game and discovered that at 2:29 ET a 30 second spot with all sorts of new scenes was shown. (Scenes that answer all sorts of questions and seem to beg one huge question!)

Thank God!  I felt bad that I'd mentioned seeing it on the basketball games and then saw that you'd skimmed the games yesterday in vain looking for it.  I didn't catch the commercial today and am anxious to see the screen captures as well as learn about the questions (answered and revealed) from the newest one. 

I saw The Hunger Games yesterday with my daughter, who is a fan of the books.  I personally thought the movie was just OK.  They did have a large number of previews, including the original trailer we've seen for Dark Shadows.   I didn't detect any reaction (positive or negative) from the audience. 

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Rumor has it that there is a new television spot

Needless to say I haven't come across that TV spot yet (because I would have shared it) - and I've DVRed quite a few shows this past week.

Actually, I saw a commercial for it during one of the college basketball games yesterday, and I noticed that it contained at least one new scene with Barnabas standing in a street as a car whizzes by him.  I also noticed another scene that showed Barnabas looking in from outside a window while hanging upside down.  I do not remember a scene dealing with styrofoam peanuts. 

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I didn't see anybody mention this line from the article:

[spoiler]
Quote
...Burton chatted with Bonham Carter next to a laboratory vat of vampire blood.
I would infer from this that there will be some aspect of Julia working on a cure for Barnabas in the film.[/spoiler]

I personally find that somewhat encouraging...

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Current Talk '12 I / Re: Who Was Your First True Love?
« on: March 20, 2012, 03:22:31 AM »
I don't know about "true love," but my first real crush was Daphne on Dark Shadows.  Wait, I think I smell lilac...

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First, there's the talk of Dan Curtis' "vision."  Well, he betrayed that with the '91 remake.  With a huge budget, huge sets, and a few big-name stars (mostly miscast, save for Jean Simmons), bad writing, et. al., it was not the DS those of us who grew up with remembered.  Still, because it was DS, I enjoyed it.  I was saddened by its cancellation.  We have folks here who did not like HoDS (and NoDS).  They consider HoDS Hammeresque exploitation and their stomachs rumble when they see it.  That was also Dan Curtis "vision," and we have DS fans who feel betrayed by it.  And those of us who grew up with, and loved and still love, his original "vision," had to put up with tons of faux pas'.  So why did Dan Curtis allow them?  To make money.  But DS continued on, and so did we. 

Gerard, I feel exactly the same way.  I know there are some fans who enjoyed the Leviathan storyline, which was clearly part of Dan Curtis' vision.  I absolutely hated that portion of the series.  I don't think that Curtis' vision was the only true way to view the characters. 

Maybe another way to look at this is to compare it to some of the Marvel comic book heroes.  Some Batman fans hated the TV series that aired in the '60's.  There were mixed opinions about the series of movies that started with Tim Burton's effort in 1989.  Still others were not wowed by Christopher Nolan's first movie in this trilogy.  As the saying goes, you can't please everybody, and clearly Burton's decided to make a film that pleases him. 

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But the addition of monsters is the only way you can get some kids to read them at all, and maybe if they do read it and like it, they'll check out the original work.

I can't find a YouTube link, but one of my favorite episodes of Cheers involved Frasier doing that very thing to get the gang to be interested in the works of Charles Dickens.  Toward the end when the bar regulars implore him to read them more Dickens, Lilith is pleasantly surprised and Frasier says to her something along the lines of "I've done some things I'm not proud of..."

Here's the IMDB link to that episode:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0539777/plotsummary

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THE WOMAN IN BLACK (2012) proves that a straightforward period Gothic horror film is still viable and very much in vogue.

Maybe we have different definitions of in vogue, but I don't believe The Woman In Black fits my definition.  I went and found it to be kind of slow, and the scariest things were more startling than anything else.  The movie was never #1 at the box office, even in its opening weekend and with a considerable advertising campaign and opening on Super Bowl weekend.  Honestly, I think Chronicle, which came out the same weekend, was a better film.  A quick look at Rotten Tomatoes suggests 63% of the people who watched The Woman In Black liked it. 

I guess my point is, I recognize that different people can see the same film and have drastically different opinions about it.  I am planning to keep an open mind and see the movie.  Only after actually seeing it will I form an opinion about whether I like it or not. 

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I just saw a commercial for The 3 Stooges.  That is a movie that SHOULD be funny that definitely doesn't look like a barrel of laughs. 

Is there any chance that we all walked into the parallel time room? 

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I guess I'm in the minority who enjoyed the trailer.  I was struck by the inspired choice of Deliverance as the movie at the theater in Collinsport, given that it's a story of a group of outsiders coping with a society that they have trouble understanding. 

I'd like to echo the thoughts of others about how appalling it is for people to argue over who is or is not a "real" fan.  As the saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and just because I may or may not like something doesn't make it wrong for others to feel differently.  If this movie brings new fans to Dark Shadows and a fraction of them go back and watch the original series or the 1991 revival, I think that's a good thing.  What's more, nothing that this movie does is going to change any of the prior art.  If your preference is for the original series, it will continue to be available on DVD, streaming or whatever new medium becomes available.  In fact, the restored versions of HODS and NODS may not have happened if not for this latest effort. 

Maybe the best analogy is the Tolkien movies that Peter Jackson has made.  There are plenty of Tolkien enthusiasts who are unhappy with the LOTR trilogy.  The thing is, it introduced a whole new generation to Tolkien's works, who then can judge for themselves what they think of Jackson's movies.  I guess I fail to see how that's ultimately a bad thing. 

I will most definitely see the movie when it comes out.  I seriously hope that it lives up to my expectations, and I hope that it is successful enough that it ultimately leads to additional movies.  I would prefer to continue to hear stories of the Collins family rather than think that this could be their swan song. 

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First off, thank you to everybody who provided information (links to the trailers, screen captured pictures and opinions on the rough cut) about the movie yesterday.  Reading all of this this morning reminded me of how I felt as a kid opening presents on Christmas morning. 

I was struck by a thought.  If you had told me five years ago that two vampire movies that would be released in 2012 would include one titled Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter and another titled and based on Dark Shadows, and then you told me one was intended to be a comedy, I would have believed you but would have been completely wrong about which film was which.  In keeping with my Christmas morning analogy, I'm afraid I may end up being disappointed in my biggest gift despite my initial enthusiasm after the initial novelty wears off...

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