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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0967
« on: September 06, 2015, 12:08:37 AM »
Lydia's idea does make sense. Otherwise, why would Vicki voluntarily jump off the cliff?

Maybe we were supposed to infer all that, but I never did. I did think the Leviathans killed Vicki, directly or indirectly, but couldn't imagine why.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0965
« on: September 06, 2015, 12:05:53 AM »
You are more than welcome! I love your comments!

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0968
« on: September 04, 2015, 11:46:38 PM »
Light square--gosh, I don't remember now, and I don't have videos of the eps.

Here we are, approaching the end of a story line, and the writers are having the characters do stupid things and throwing everything but (or maybe including) the kitchen sink at them.

I think the next story line starts in the next ep!

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0966
« on: September 03, 2015, 11:34:47 PM »
Uncle Roger, I'll bet it was the movie all along! I guess the movie's shooting schedule forced them to wind up the Leviathan story pretty quickly, maybe faster than they had intended.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0968
« on: September 03, 2015, 07:11:58 PM »
Another Violet Welles script, so of course we have a dream sequence (sort of).

Jeb (who has somehow changed from the green sweater to a white dress shirt while in peril of his life) manages to hit Philip over the head with a rock. He actually plans to let Philip go, but Philip rushes him and goes over the cliff. Farewell, Chris Bernau--and too bad. He was a fine actor who gave Philip tragic depth.

And farewell, Roger Davis: Peter materializes, cheated of his prey and angrier than ever. He tells Jeb, It doesn’t matter how many lives are lost as long as I kill you. You never will, Jeb vows, and turns to walk away (stumbling on one of the wooden steps up to the set). I’ll destroy you! Peter’s voice promises. No, you won’t, replies a sultry woman’s voice. Angelique steps into view, wearing her leopard-fur coat. [As she appears, a light square is seen in the upper right corner of the screen when lightning flashes.] Jeb belongs to me, she tells Peter. I had comfort, a good position, a wonderful marriage, a man who loved me--and because of Jeb I lost it all. Peter is still hell bent on drowning Jeb. I have many more options, Angelique replies. I told you I am no ordinary woman, she reminds him. [They met in 1795 at Vicki’s trial.] If you fail, Jeb will marry Carolyn. It seems grossly unfair to Peter that this home wrecker should find domestic happiness himself. I won’t fail, Angelique promises. I’ll look for Jeb as soon as I return you to your grave. He might get away, Peter frets. Angelique tells him, He won't get away. I promise you that. Jeb Hawkes has a very short future. Now go back, Peter Bradford, back into the darkness, knowing that he will soon follow you. Go back, knowing that you shall have your revenge. Go back now to where you belong, without fear. You will be avenged. Peter begins to sway slightly, but his eyes close and he looks peaceful as he fades out of the Dark Shadows universe forever. Angelique surveys the ocean with an anticipatory smile.

Elizabeth tries without success to talk Carolyn out of waiting for Jeb. The (new) sheriff calls to report that Philip is missing. (We don’t even hear the sheriff’s voice and we don’t know his name, so he has a good chance of surviving his term in office.) Carolyn tells her mother, Philip is missing and no one knows where to begin looking for him. Tell them to look in the water--below Widows Hill, Jeb says grimly as he enters the room.

Jeb offers to make a statement to the police--who never seem to doubt his veracity! Carolyn is afraid he's going to leave her behind but he says he wants to take her with him. They tell Elizabeth that they want to get married. Elizabeth is upset but sees that Carolyn loves Jeb. Jeb makes Carolyn promise that the wedding will be very quiet--so quiet that no one will know about it till it's done.

Downstairs in the drawing room, Elizabeth is offering tea and sympathy to Angelique Rumson on her busted marriage. Jeb returns from the police station, and Elizabeth introduces him to Angelique. Just so she can watch him squirm, Angelique says, Jeb has been to Little Windward Island. I was taking pictures for one of Sky’s magazines, Jeb replies almost smoothly, but we haven’t met. I must be confusing you with some other photographer, Angelique says blandly. Jeb excuses himself to get Carolyn. Are you and Carolyn are going to be married? Angelique asks. Jeb says yes. Angelique quotes an old Irish saying: May ye have all the luck ye need. Jeb eyes her coldly but thanks her and leaves.

Jeb is at the carriage house, presumably to get dressed for his wedding. Angelique is there, cutting a shape out of some black paper. What do you know about me? she asks. Only that you’re very beautiful and that you’re Mrs. Sky Rumson, he replies. I know a great deal more about you, she says--that you should have been destroyed when the box was destroyed, when the altar blew up and the room burned. How do you know all about that? he asks. You have a tremendous will to live, she says, as usual not answering the question--but it’s not enough against me because I know too much. For instance, I know how Peter Bradford planned to kill you. No one is going to lure me near water again, he assures her smugly. [Hopefully this doesn’t mean he will give up washing.] I don’t need water or to lure you anywhere, Angelique replies. I have the means to destroy you right here in this room.

Carolyn is also getting dressed when Elizabeth arrives with the traditional gift of something old for the bride to wear, in this case a brooch. This belonged to your great-great-great-great-great-grandmother, Elizabeth explains. [Sadly, she can’t mean Naomi, whose line died with Sarah and Barnabas.] I’m sure it’s old enough, Carolyn replies. Elizabeth lends her a hanky to carry. Carolyn thanks her for that too. And thank you for accepting Jeb, she adds. Elizabeth turns away in denial, and Carolyn says, At least you’ve given him a chance. I’m sure it’s going to work. I love him very much, and I’m glad we’re going to be married at Collinwood. Elizabeth mourns the lost opportunity for a big wedding. Carolyn admits, This wasn’t what I had in mind either, but I’m going to make the best of it. I have new stockings, so all I need is something blue.

Angelique shows Jeb what she's been cutting out: a sort of humanoid shape with raised arms, like a ghost's shadow. She shows him a vision of himself asleep as the shadow grows big enough to cover him entirely. He is horrified, but Angelique smiles with modest pride in her handiwork. You can’t make it work, he protests. I can die only by water. Death will wait for you around every corner, not just Widows Hill, Angelique replies. It will follow you wherever you go.

Carolyn is now in her wedding dress, a simple pale pink affair with ruffles at the throat and wrists. Elizabeth brings her a sapphire bracelet for something blue. Now you are a traditional bride, Elizabeth says with loving pride in spite of her misgivings. At a very small wedding, Carolyn says with a smile. That doesn’t matter, says Elizabeth. Happy the bride the sun-- The sun shines on, Carolyn finishes somberly. But the sun won't shine on me, will it, Mother? Jeb can't wait. Her voice fades: I will be married at night--in darkness.

Jeb is in the foyer, dressed in a dark green-gray jacket with a belt across the back of the jacket and black trousers. He reassures his reflection in the mirror: You look good, Jeb. You look fine. Everything is going to be fine. Suddenly behind him in the mirror he sees a small shadow on the opposite wall. He is astonished, then tells himself, None of them can hurt me. He turns on the lamp to drive the shadow away, and Carolyn comes downstairs, with her mother following. Perhaps Jeb’s distraction keeps him from saying one word about her appearance, but she hugs him anyway. He escorts her into the drawing room as Elizabeth speaks (offscreen) to the newly arrived Reverend Brand. Jeb steps into the foyer to check where the shadow had been. It has returned, but larger now and wavering even more. He looks at it in panic until Carolyn calls him back to the drawing room. It disappears as we hear Elizabeth speak to the Reverend Brand as she brings him in to perform the ceremony.....

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0966
« on: September 03, 2015, 06:58:26 PM »
Maybe they had some idea of keeping the Leviathan story line going longer  [8311], then changed their minds for some reason. The ratings might have been slipping yet again. But yeah, with all those dreams, normally Carolyn would have trusted her instincts.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0966
« on: September 03, 2015, 04:06:22 PM »

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0967
« on: September 03, 2015, 03:05:33 PM »
Interesting idea, Joey. I never thought that Nicholas might have brought Peter back, but it makes sense in a weird way.

Only on DS would the young girl who was supposed to be the heroine end up as a plot device. Even so, the whole 1796 thing makes no sense whatever.

I guess everyone was too busy being deprogrammed from Leviathanism to remember that they could have had a séance to ask Paul Stoddard what the heck was going on.

We should have had more of Megan as a vampire. She's nice and feral. Bernau is good in his scene with her and improves the scene with Peter, although even RD wasn't too bad here. Did he mess with his hair? I don't remember.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0966
« on: September 03, 2015, 02:58:24 PM »
That Star Trek episode was one of the worst! So bad all I could do was laugh.

Quentin, maybe Carolyn had some sort of post-traumatic stress disorder, knowing that her father had been horribly murdered, though she never learns by whom. So maybe she clung to Jeb that much more because he also promised not to abandon her.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0966
« on: September 02, 2015, 11:39:53 PM »
Ha ha ha, I missed that! But then again, it was all Beatles all the time for me.   [ghost_grin]

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0967
« on: September 02, 2015, 08:59:49 PM »
Peter Bradford (yes, him) begins his plan for revenge by explaining things to Jeb. Originally, Vicki and Peter supposedly moved out West and lived happily ever after, but one supposes the writers couldn’t let anyone on Dark Shadows be happy. Or else Angelique’s curse destroyed them too. Mercifully, Barnabas never learns of their tragic fate.

Apparently the seemingly all-powerful Leviathan Supreme Being can be killed in a surprising variety of ways.

Jeb remembers Peter all too well (according to this revisionist history, at least) and reacts with horror to his sudden appearance. I kept you from killing Maggie Evans, Willie Loomis and Julia Hoffman, Peter gloats. I burned the Book and warned David about you. I put the noose around Bruno’s neck. I would have done the same to you--except that it takes a very special way to kill a Leviathan. In 1797 I knew what that way was--and was hanged for it. I was a living man in 1797, Jeb protests. You can’t kill me now. Then why are you so afraid? Peter says implacably. Can you feel my hatred for you? And truly, hatred emanates from Peter like steam from boiling water. It wasn’t my fault that Victoria Winters killed herself, Jeb argues. You sent her over the cliff at Widows Hill, Peter replies--and then I sent you over. I plan to make history repeat itself tonight. You can’t, Jeb protests. Peter continues as if Jeb hadn’t spoke: It may not be my hand, but someone will. When you go over the cliff, you will die the only way you can--by drowning! [So much for werewolves!] Terrified, Jeb tells him, You’ll never get me to Widows Hill. I did in 1797, Peter replies, just as you did Vicki. Turning sad and thoughtful for a moment, Peter says, I was in love with Vicki, and you ended it for us. Now I am going to end it for you and Carolyn. Jeb protests, horrified at the thought that Carolyn might get hurt. The implacable Peter says, I’ve waited a long, long time, and nothing will keep me from destroying you. Jeb says, If you do anything to Carolyn, I swear I’ll ki-- he realizes what he is saying and also realizes that Peter has vanished. Jeb picks up the phone and calls Carolyn (he dials a seven-digit number!). Desperately he warns her, Don’t leave the house, no matter what happens, even something strange and terrifying. I will come for you. Carolyn doesn’t understand but agrees. They check the time: it’s 1:30, and Jeb will arrive at 3:30.

Megan vamps Sky, then goes to the jail and vamps her husband. Can a vampire commit adultery by biting a man not her husband?

Philip is alone in his cell again when someone else comes to him and calls his name. He pulls up his collar to hide the bite marks. I won’t say anything to the doctor, he promises, thinking it’s Megan. But poor, half-mad Philip doesn’t even seem surprised when Peter Bradford materializes in the cell. I’m not going to tell you anything, Philip insists. Gently Peter replies, Mr. Todd, you don’t have to tell me anything. I know it all already. Philip is totally unfazed but comments, You aren’t real. I was, Peter says, and introduces himself. Throughout their conversation, his manner is gentle and sad. He says, Even though you’re living and I’m dead, and centuries separate us, we have one thing in common: We were both in love with women who were destroyed by the same man. Barnabas, Philip says promptly. Barnabas couldn’t help it, Peter says sorrowfully. I’ll get him! Philip rages, I’ll get them all! Even if you’re found innocent, Peter replies, they’ll still think you’re insane--unless you do exactly what I say. If you agree, I’ll unlock the door and you can get revenge on anybody you want. Philip seems pleased at this proposal.

Peter tricks Jeb into falling asleep and sets his clock back an hour.

Jeb abruptly wakes up and wonders what happened. He is about to phone Carolyn, but sees that the clock reads 2:00, so he thinks he has plenty of time. He gets his coat and opens the door--to find the ghost of Peter Bradford standing in the doorway. Carolyn isn’t home, Peter tells him. She is where Victoria Winters died. I won’t go to Widows Hill, Jeb replies. I warned Carolyn. She promised to stay at Collinwood. People break promises, don’t they? retorts the implacable Peter. You know all about that, Jabez Hawkes. Get out of the way, Jeb orders him. Peter sarcastically gestures for him to leave and smiles after Jeb is gone.

At 3:55, Carolyn phones the carriage house again, still remembering Jeb’s words: No matter what happens you must not leave the house. No matter what happens. No matter what happens. You must not. You must not. She opens the front doors, but remembers again: Something strange and frightening... strange and frightening, strange and frightening. Suddenly she decides to take the back path, and hurries through the servants’ door under the stairs. The next moment, thunder peals as Jeb rushes in and spots her blue suitcase. Carolyn! he screams but gets no reply.

Carolyn rushes into the carriage house, screaming for Jeb. She sees his suitcase but he is not there.

Jeb has searched upstairs and is running down to the foyer. Where is she? he wonders, then he hears Peter Bradford’s voice again: Where was Victoria Winters when she died? I don’t believe you! Jeb shouts back. Peter replies, I have waited a long time, Jabez Hawkes. A long, long time. I will do anything to destroy you. Anything! Anything!

Jeb runs to the windswept clearing atop Widows Hill. The waves break on the rocks far below. He is lit by flashes of lightning as he calls to Carolyn. She isn’t here! he decides. But I am here, says Philip Todd as he steps into the clearing. I was waiting for you, Philip says. _He_ told me you would be here when he let me out of jail. Jeb tries to make a break for it, but Philip says, It’s no use. Philip grabs Jeb and they struggle at the cliff’s edge. Finally they both fall to the ground. Philip kneels and starts to choke Jeb, whose head is actually off the edge of the cliff in midair. He screams with fear and horror as Philip shouts triumphantly, Tonight! Tonight you’re going to drown!....

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0966
« on: September 02, 2015, 08:49:15 PM »
Very true. I actually meant to say the post-1970PT interlude in 1995, in which Carolyn is greatly changed but still her real self. Sebastian Shaw didn't much for me either. What was Wardrobe thinking? Obviously they had never taken even a short walk in the Village. Sheesh.


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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0966
« on: September 02, 2015, 05:52:03 PM »
I think Stockholm Syndrome definitely played a part in Carolyn's relationship with Adam, especially since (to start with) he was a sympathetic character. With Jeb, I'm more inclined to think that her, um, heart overrode her head. Plus the writers really messed with her big time. But I think that in future story lines (say, 1970 our time), she's truer to her original self.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0964
« on: September 02, 2015, 12:02:52 AM »
Good one!  [ghost_grin]

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0966
« on: September 01, 2015, 09:00:18 PM »
That's a good idea, Quentin. The Leviathans have made Sky rich and (I suppose) have given Bruno the opportunity to kill lots of people just as easily as cutting up that apple.