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Current Talk '08 I / Re: The Beginning DVD Collections 5 & 6
« on: January 15, 2008, 02:54:41 PM »
Hee,  I am still on set 2 myself.  Vicki and Carolyn have just seen what looks looks like a body floating amongst the rocks at the bottom of Widow's Hill.

... Laura Palmer? [snow_grin]

The Pen was shown briefly a few episodes ago, though....

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Dark Shadows: Why Such a Huge Gay Following?
« on: January 15, 2008, 02:42:31 PM »
Perhaps a good reason has to do with the character of Barnabas Collins. When we meet him, he's a vampire, a creature who's definitely something to be reviled -- an outcast to human society. Yet, as time goes on, he gains acceptance by those around him and a self-acceptance as well. A parallel could be drawn between his experience and that of a gay person dealing with coming out of the closet. I don't know if that's over-analyzing, but I can see where someone who's gay could relate to Barnabas' experiences.
Yes, it's interesting to see the characters of Barnabas (and Quentin and Chris) struggle with their true "natures."  But to take the metaphor a step further, these characters are constantly struggling against their natures, seeking cures for their condition

Interesting also, that when Barnabas is 'cured'  the audience preferred him the other way! :D

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 15, 2008, 02:33:02 PM »
I don't think there's any evidence in the Revival series that Lysette's Angelique loved Barnabas at all. She wanted to possess him, to own him, and that's something completely different.
Agreed.  And far more succinctly put than my own ramble.... :D

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 15, 2008, 01:42:44 PM »
Ang's motivations in the Revival are so vague.  Barn and Ang have maybe two or three scenes together in the whole of the 1790 story so the idea that Ang is in love with Barnabas (and thus is her motivation for everything that comes after) just doesn't fly with me.  Plus I really don't like the actress playing Ang.  However evil or twisted her motivations were, I had no trouble believing that Lara's Ang really did love Barnabas.

I liked the revival at the time, and looking back, I can see where Curtis might have had that impression, Lydia, because it was mine.  At the time I watched the revival on original broadcast, the only original DS I had seen up to then was the syndication package starting with Barn's arrival and ending just after Vicky got back from 1795.  The revival, certainly does cover all the important bases, and looking back ISTR ticking all the boxes as they occurred. but now it really comes across as just a going through the motions exercise.  All the events are there but hardly any of the emotions, the character, the depth, and given that a years worth of weekday episodes are being shoehorned into 12 episodes, perhaps that not very surprising.  I find myself wondering if the Revival had taken a slower pace and did the modern day Barnabas story in those 12 episodes cliffhanging on Vicki's trip into the past, if the show might not have been renewed?  Or at least aged better? 

One wonders how does the 2004 Pilot compare to the revival?  Pity I will probably never get a chance to see it...

If DS were ever to be given a new least on life as a primetime series, I think it still has a very workable concept.  One only has to look at Heroes (the only other broadcast TV show I really watch) to see that serialized high concept storytelling is still alive and well and can be done well and is certain proof (in my mind) that the show doesn't have to pander to a WB style audience to be popular with that demographic.

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Old movie?
« on: January 11, 2008, 12:00:25 AM »
You can watch a portion of it on youtube.
... and after doing so, I was convinced the ghosthumters were screamingly gay. ;)


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Current Talk '08 I / Re: End of the Road
« on: January 10, 2008, 09:33:23 PM »
This may have been discussed mentioned elsewhere, but was there ever any rationale given for just ending the show the way they did in 1840PT instead of "going back home to mama" as it were.

Indeed, was there any precedent at all even to bring soaps going off the air to any kind of conclusion or did they just end?

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 09, 2008, 08:22:02 PM »
I have to agree about 91 Elizabeth.  Speaking as a big fan of ECS as played by Joan Bennett, and respecting Jean Simmons' abilities, I was very disappointed in how little she was used, and how blandly she was written.  Not even a hint of mystery (was Liz' 18 year self-imprisonment even mentioned?)  Even as Naomi , she was wasted.  I mean there is such a think as back story.  How much richer would the 1790 tapestry have been if Naomi was quietly, in the background, a sot?  How much more memorable would ECS in the 20th C would be, with just a few hints about the tragedy in her past, laying seeds for a possible storyline to come?

Maybe part of my problem is the slacks...I am not sexist by any stretch of the imagination, but the very idea of the imperious Collins' Family Matriarch Elizabeth Collins Stoddard, who can quell any and all opposition with a glance in khaki trousers is just ... wrong ... somehow. :)

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Old movie?
« on: January 09, 2008, 07:05:35 PM »
No copies of Blaisdon at Amazon.
I just checked.
Really?  I looked yesterday and there were two used copies - one at 39.99 and one at 89.99

btw, don't forget the "e" when you search - Blaisedon  [snow_wink]

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Old movie?
« on: January 09, 2008, 04:48:10 PM »
I'm intrigued - and will be looking for deal on ebay  [snow_wink]

Now, if some kind soul would recover Art Wallace's The House and/or Pomegranate Press publish the script...... [snow_grin]

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Current Talk '08 I / The Beginning DVD Collections 5 & 6
« on: January 07, 2008, 04:12:25 AM »
SQUEEEE

The last two Beginning DVD sets are one their way!  I am soo stoked.  Anyone else who have theirs already have any opinions on them yet?

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 06, 2008, 03:57:37 AM »
But where is the humor that was in the original Dark Shadows?
IIRC, all the humor (term used lightly :) ) was written into the chraracter of Wille "Ihaven'tbathedorbrushedmyteethsinceIwas12" Loomis.

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Squaredancing portraits now has me thinking that the pictures in Collinwood move like the portraits in Hogwarts... [santa_grin]

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 01, 2008, 03:51:30 AM »
MB,

Was there ever a satisfactory explanation from MPI about how poor the dvd mastering and (you could hardly call it) restoration came about?

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 01, 2008, 03:49:18 AM »
quentin in season two???

again blowing one's wad.

the weird thing about that(and this version in general)is that dan curtis tied to include too much of the original plot in too short an amount of time...and the only reason he did that would be to entertain himself and pacify long time fans who would demand that all of their favorite characters be included right off the bat.

the general public does not know who "quentin" or anyone else from the series is and to try and introduce too much to them is confusing.they're not expecting so-and-so because new viewers(and millions of them would be needed for a show to succeed)aren't familiar with the story.

it would have been wiser to flesh out the 'present time' characters and allow viewers to get to know them before getting into the time travel stuff so soon.

Is it possible he was "speeding through" the popular storylines of the original series in order to get to some new stuff that would sort of pick up where the original series left off?

Or is it more likely, DC (rest his soul) was just looking to rehash his best cash crop?

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Current Talk '07 II / Re: how $14 and a writers strike got me to 1991
« on: January 01, 2008, 03:36:29 AM »
yap, reading about the really shoddy work done for the dvd (esp. the day for night scene's) is was encouraged me to get the VHS set instead...