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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: April 04, 2004, 05:43:34 AM »
Given the nature of the show, which has a lot of mystery and suspense with cliffhanger endings, if they repeat the same story, they would lose almost all of the initial "built-in" audience.

There isn't a "built in" audience - existing fans might number 50,000 at a very generous estimate...  Fine to keep an old entity alive, but not very much for a new show that needs an audience of millions to survive.

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I love that odd genre of supernatural sitcom that the 1960s produced - "Bewitched", "The Addams Family" and "The Munsters" are big favourites.

I guess by today's standards they're all a bit innocent and naive (I don't think you couldn't do any of them nowadays as new shows, for instance), but they're still endearing and watchable, which isn't bad going, especially 30 plus years on...

My fave fantasy drama, other than "Doctor Who" and "Dark Shadows", is probably "Sapphire and Steel" - it's a British curio starring David McCallum and Joanna Lumley.  Although superficially sci-fi, the tone was more mystery and ghost story - lots of wandering through dark corridors with whispers and foreboding.  Very arresting and scary, and highly recommended.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: April 02, 2004, 07:56:26 AM »
It's kinda strange... when that casting started trickling out I was a little blase about it, but now that filming is upon us and everything, I'm sooooooooo excited about the whole thing.  Seriously, when I heard today's news, I was grinning from ear to ear.

Suddenly the project really seems to have so much going for it - it's shaping up to be such an exciting time :)

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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: April 02, 2004, 07:42:03 AM »
Sorry guys, it ain't Jane Seymour ;)

Blair Brown is Elizabeth Collins Stoddard - info and pics at www.collinwood.net

I think she's a great choice :)

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Current Talk '04 I / Re: OT - Angel to return
« on: April 01, 2004, 12:19:45 AM »
Hmmmmm... it doesn't sound very promising to me.  The comment about the Angel 'universe' is very telling, I think.

I dunno - that sounds more to me like the writers will be sneaking in references in the show in their new projects than any return of "Angel" as its fans know it.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:WB DS Actors' Video
« on: March 31, 2004, 02:56:59 PM »
Thanks for those - they're fascinating.

Alec Newman's clips in particular bode very well for Barnabas - that final scene is quite remarkable, with several major shifts in emotion handled with great naturalism.  There's a lot of shades there that would play well for "Dark Shadows", I think.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 31, 2004, 04:53:42 AM »
Do YOU think they would have hired someone who looked like a young Jonathan Frid for this role?  I doubt it.

Turning that on their head, why should they?  The role needs a talented, versatile actor, which you won't get by narrowing your search to a lookalike or a mimic. What's the point?  It might be a fair copy, but it will always be a copy.  Barnabas Collins is a broader character than simply Jonathan Frid's contribution, and there's no reason to assume that Alec Newman can't make the role his own.

Another thing I'd point out is that it's very easy for us to mutter darkly about casting choices, but we're not the ones making decisions that millions of dollars are riding on.  Jonathan's casting versus casting Barnabas today is a totally different ballgame.

In 1967, they were looking for a short-term guest for a daytime soap - today casting Barnabas entails finding the lead actor for a key primetime drama. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 30, 2004, 02:27:57 PM »
A title sequence wouldn't be shot until production was well underway - for instance, the titles for 1991 series weren't prepared until the entire shoot had wrapped.

For example, the version of the 1991 pilot that NBC saw had no opening or closing titles (it just opens with the "Dark Shadows" logo on black), and the music was a mixture of synthesised "temp" tracks and recycled original series music cues.

I'd assume that in this instance they'd either assemble a couple of key scenes with a music track, or put together something akin to an extended trailer from what's available.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:The Producers
« on: March 30, 2004, 05:18:41 AM »
I don't know what the deal is for television screenings of DS, but MPI does pay the actors some residuals from their merchandising activities.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:The Producers
« on: March 30, 2004, 12:15:50 AM »
Joss Whedon isn't involved - it's John Wells, Dan Curtis and Mark Verheiden - you can read brief info on each at http://www.collinwood.net/new

As for too many cooks, have you *seen* the opening moments of most network shows these days? I was watching "Smallville" yesterday and could swear that the endless list of producer credits lasted for about two thirds of the episode.

Three EPs in this day and age really isn't a big deal at all.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Shadows of the Vampire
« on: March 29, 2004, 11:19:51 AM »
One thing I'd like to clarify is that the stuff about Jonathan Frid is only my opinion.  It may be that other elements influenced Jonathan's change of heart, but many sources and interviews seem to suggest that the movie was a turning point for him - certainly more so than other obvious factors.

Jonathan has stated in interviews that he found the movie to be inferior to the series - citing the violence and gore, amongst other qualities.  My own instincts from my research is that HODS was a turning point across the board for the show.

I think in the wake of direct comparison with a bigger, more technically accomplished version, the impetus for "Dark Shadows" on television rapidly diminished from cast, crew and the network.  Rightly or wrongly, I suspect it was viewed as a transition time, creatively and career-wise (note how many cast members migrated to California soon after the cancellation), so maybe the gut instinct was simply that the TV show's work was done.

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Current Talk '04 I / DS DVD Collection 11
« on: March 28, 2004, 08:26:13 PM »
I've heard a couple of reports that the latest DVD Collection from MPI - number 11 - features a new look.

The packaging is now a thinner box, half the size of the previous volumes, and the menu design has been completely redone, with a spooky faux Collins Mausoleum.

Can anyone confirm this?  And if so, any chance of some screengrabs of the new-look menus.

Thanks :)

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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 28, 2004, 02:57:22 AM »
I loved the Angie's ghost effect - it still looks perfectly respectable after 13 years, which isn't bad going...  She's meant to be a terrifying apparition, it's a great image and a wonderful florid set piece.

DS frequently isn't a subtle show - the characters and stories are painted in big, broad strokes and I thought it fitted in perfectly.


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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 27, 2004, 04:10:58 PM »
Some interesting choices - I'm really excited about Martin Donovan, who I think is a real coup for the production.  And I think having Roger played by an actor older than Barnabas will bring an interesting dynamic to their relationship.

Alec Newman I'm intrigued by.  He's a lot more "pretty" than I was expecting, but he has an intensity that should suit the role.  He certainly seems far more facially expressive than Ben Cross, so a massive improvement in that respect.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Return To Collinwood
« on: March 26, 2004, 11:54:13 PM »
It's now due out in the Summer, likely around the time of the Festival in August.

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