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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0375
« on: January 23, 2013, 12:38:00 AM »
Barnabas's one-room--and one-student--schoolhouse is one of my favorite scenes in the whole series, absolutely delightful and wonderfully performed. But then, I like all the scenes with Barnabas and Ben.

I love Ben's line, If learning to write is so hard, how do children ever do it?

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0376
« on: January 22, 2013, 11:19:53 PM »
I like your hypothesis. Both André and Natalie might have had titles to start with. André has relocated to the New World and maybe has adopted French Revolutionary principles and could even have renounced his title. But Natalie seems rooted in the age of the monarchy and sees no reason to change her politics. I'm sure she expects the rest of the universe to adapt to her.  [snow_wink]

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0376
« on: January 22, 2013, 04:36:04 PM »
I haven't seen this ep. in a long time, but I think you're right, dom. I remember being really disappointed when I did see it. It should have been better all around. And the ending is just preposterous. (My notes say that Dorrie Kavanaugh played the woman in Jeremiah's arms.)

I really have only one more thing to add: After conferring with Natalie at the gazebo, André returns to the house and asks if he may speak to Jeremiah alone. Jeremiah invites him to the study, but Naomi offers to go upstairs--thereby obviating the need to build another set. I don't think we ever do see the study at the Old House.

Big question I've always wondered about: Are André and Natalie are supposed to be siblings? If Natalie was married to a count, how come her last name is still DuPres? Or are they following the rule of 18th-century English society which stipulated that even in-laws referred to each other as brother and sister? If Natalie was married to a brother of André's, I suppose the brother could have been a count. But André would have had a title of his own, right? Mass confusion!

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0374
« on: January 21, 2013, 04:20:40 PM »
Yeah, even just a flashback would have been good. Surely DC could have sprung for a couple of palm fronds fluttering outside the window of Angelique's tiny bedroom in Martinique. Sheesh.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0375
« on: January 20, 2013, 07:05:54 PM »
More proof that the countess loves her niece dearly, almost like a daughter. Very delicately she asks if Josette is afraid of marriage--or of Barnabas. Of course what she means is, Is Josette afraid of sex? She is reassured when Josette insists she would marry Barnabas tonight. But not even her gentle teasing will persuade Josette to go with Barnabas to the cabinet makers' to choose the furniture she will live with for the rest of her life.

Natalie also tells Josette she didn't miss a thing by not coming to lunch: "Cook thinks that using wine to prepare fish is against her religious principles and Mrs. Collins sees no reason to replace her." So the bad food at Collinwood is also traditional.

Ben must watch helplessly as Jeremiah downs yet another fateful toddy.

The countess tries to talk Barnabas into marrying Josette tonight, but Barnabas protests that they are expecting guests, etc., etc. She reproaches Barnabas and his family, saying they are too conventional. Later, she sends Barnabas upstairs to be with Josette. If there’s no other reason for marrying Josette, it’s because you are her aunt, Barnabas tells her gallantly.

Is this our very first look at the famous gazebo set? If so, welcome!

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0373
« on: January 20, 2013, 06:56:18 PM »
One of Ben's (many) fine and unsuspected qualities is that Angelique may have enslaved his body, but she will never, ever enslave his spirit.

And I do love the costumes in this story line!

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0374
« on: January 18, 2013, 08:32:56 PM »
Josette and Barnabas get their first wedding present--the famous skull! But do we ever find out who actually sent it? Or are we supposed to assume that it was Angelique?

Poor Josette worries about the propriety of--and her own reaction to--Barnabas's kiss. Barnabas says her father and her aunt both know that they've kissed. Josette innocently says he's very modern. His face darkens as he remembers just how "modern" he has been with Angelique.

Angelique protests that she had nothing to do with the skull, telling Barnabas furiously, You don't know me at all if you think I would do anything to hurt you! Ironic words, huh?

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0373
« on: January 18, 2013, 04:20:32 PM »
Forgot to express my admiration of Jeremiah's resplendent apricot silk dressing gown with deep collar and cuffs of brown velvet. And I love love love Millicent's blue top hat!

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0373
« on: January 17, 2013, 08:44:14 PM »
LP is certainly very adept at handling many difficult props. We get to see Angelique's cruelty and selfishness. She has absolutely no idea of what love really means.

Welcome, Millicent Collins! Poor Jeremiah seems trapped by Joshua's matchmaking episodes.

The lock of hair that Ben brings to Angelique seems a lot longer that Jeremiah's actual hair!

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0372
« on: January 16, 2013, 11:22:08 PM »
But to answer your original question, dom, the U.S. wasn't in another official war between the Revolution and 1795, unless you count the Whiskey Rebellion in western Pennsylvania in 1791. I'm assuming that Ben was no longer in the Continental army at that point.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0372
« on: January 16, 2013, 10:47:09 PM »
Let's see: The Revolutionary War ended in 1783. We're now in 1795. We don't know how long ago Ben did his breaking and entering. He might very well have tried his hand at any number of jobs for any number of years before he had to resort to stealing just to stay alive. Even so, I think theft was punished harshly even in the young Republic.

He may have had an even harder time finding work because [spoiler]as we will find out soon, he was illiterate.[/spoiler]

Ben is one of my favorite characters in the whole series.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0372
« on: January 16, 2013, 09:07:02 PM »
I think this episode might feature LP's first voiceover.

Welcome, Ben Stokes! Thayer David gives a near-perfect performance throughout this story line, even though he is forced to cut logs with an implausibly small hatchet.

Vicki continues to blunder her way through the eighteenth century, this time telling Joshua that Millicent "never married."

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0371
« on: January 15, 2013, 04:15:26 PM »
Apologies for the long post above, but I forgot one little thing: Dr. Thornton (played by Peter Murphy, who has also traveled through time) can do nothing for Barnabas. But because this is his only on-screen appearance, he most likely lived to a ripe old age.  [snow_wink]

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0371
« on: January 15, 2013, 04:01:37 PM »
An action-packed episode!

As Barnabas continues to choke, Josette continues to scream in terror until Jeremiah and Vicki hurry in. (In fact, Josette is so terrified that she is wearing a completely different dress from the one she wore in the previous episode, even though this episode continues directly from the last one.)

Somewhere, the writers jumped the tracks with Vicki. The young girl who got off the train at Collinsport was able to “stand on her own two feet,” as she put it, holding her own with a rich and very persuasive suitor, not to mention a house full of Collinses.

Vicki foolishly tells Jeremiah that she's surprised at his concern for Barnabas. Jeremiah is outraged and insulted but explains that although he is Barnabas's uncle, they are age mates and as close as brothers. (Presumably he was the baby, born long after Abigail and Joshua, just as Sarah was born long after Barnabas. What's going on here?)

We get our first nudity on the show as the top two buttons on Barnabas's shirt are undone. Angelique secretly enjoys Josette's distress and Barnabas's suffering. When she is alone with Barn, she allows him to speak, but instead of telling her he loves her, he pleads, Help me. I can’t, she replies coldly. Even the doctor is at a loss. She adds ironically, Besides, I’m only a servant, not worthy of you. I feel I’m on the point of death, he gasps. In tears, Angelique rises from his bedside. She is truly frightened now: If he dies, she thinks to herself, I’ll have no one. I won’t lose him! [This exchange raises the interesting question of whether Barnabas knew Angelique was a witch before she came to Collinsport. He doesn’t seem surprised that she caused his attack.]

Angelique is flattered that a doctor was called and takes it as a compliment to her powers, but she is beginning to see that her spell--her first one?--is working all too well.

Realizing that she would have had nothing if Barnabas had died, Angelique finally gets the hanky off the little Continental's neck, but she has learned nothing. She still thinks that cruelty will drive Barnabas into her arms.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0370
« on: January 15, 2013, 03:46:50 PM »
Funny, dom!  [snow_smiley]

If Joshua was truly a Patriot (as the writers seem to imply), maybe Naomi and Abigail did their own spinning and weaving rather than buy cloth imported from Britain. It was the patriotic thing to do.