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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: August 01, 2012, 07:23:03 PM »
I wonder, Nancy, if DS fans are just a different lot.  Like I said, on every cruise/crossing I've been on, celebrities were left alone to the point of craving human contact.  I've seen them sitting by themselves in lounges and bars, forlorn looks on their faces, at times trying to make eye-contact and give an inviting smile to anyone they maybe thought would join them.  On one transatlantic crossing on the QM2, there was a noted maritime/nautical historian and author who published over 60 books.  He gave lectures and had several autograph sessions (which I attended, both, faithfully and got his autograph on several of his books that I owned and had with me).  The planetarium/lecture hall was packed with standing room only, and there was always a line weaving through the immense library and out the door.  But when he was no longer lecturing or signing, everyone stayed away.  When I and my friend went into one of the bars for a pre-dinner drink, there he was, sitting at a table, by himself.  He called out our names and insisted we join him.  After that, we all became fast friends and he finally had someone to have meals with and to invite to his stateroom. 

But then, of all the celebrities I saw none of them were DS who just might draw a more, shall we say, "unique" fan base.

Gerard

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Widow Ghost #2:  "Whenever someone is going to die at the cliff, you always want to wail first and, frankly, after 175 years, we're getting a bit sick and tired of it.  Give someone else a chance!"

Gerard

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Elizabeth:  "Mrs. Johnson!  Please turn off the washing machine!  I'm in the shower and there's no hot water!"

Gerard

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: July 31, 2012, 11:42:34 PM »
I would be flabbergasted if the DS actors agreed to a cruise with several hundred DS fans.  If it was a cruise of a few hours, maybe.

On the several cruises/crossings I've been on, I've seen scores of celebrities, from actors/actresses to authors to politicians.  From my experiences, it's rather remarkable how other passengers leave them alone when they're "off duty" - many will give lectures and presentations, and have a time set aside for autographs, but beyond that, I've never seen anyone bother them on the "confinement" of a passenger ship.  They go about, enjoying a drink in one of the lounges, taking a walk on the promenade deck or resting in a deck chair, and no one bothered them.  It was like an unwritten rule.  (Not to sound gauche, but one time when I was in the men's room, Telly Savalas stood at the urinal next to me - we both did our business without exchanging any words.)  On a transatlantic crossing on the retired Queen Elizabeth 2 (the same one with Telly Savalas, who gave an incredible lecture on the history of television) was Edwin Newman, the noted newsman, journalist and author (who also gave several lectures).  I and my friends, one day, saw him standing alone at the railing of the QE2's First Class sundeck (we were interloping from Tourist Class) and we decided to approach him sheepishly.  He said:  "Well, finally, someone wants to talk with me.  I thought I was all alone on this ship."  We stood there, in the 32-knot wind, and talked for over an hour.  He thanked us profusely afterwards.  We could've gone on, but that mighty breeze made things chilly, even though it was August, but it was the North Atlantic.

So I don't think DS stars would have to worry about being stalked constantly while "confined" on a ship by exuberant fans.  I know some of us DS fans are nuts and go overboard (which might not be a bad idea on a ship if they behave badly), but I've never, ever seen a celebrity driven to the confines of his/her stateroom/suite by constantly annoying fans.  Ever.  I've actually seen them looking for some human connection because everyone knows not to bother them to the point of loneliness.

Gerard

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 II / Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
« on: July 31, 2012, 11:16:52 PM »
The great thing about the NY Fests is that I can indulge my interest in DS, and when it gets to be too much (as it always does...), I can hop the subway and spend a few restorative hours in a museum or just wandering.

Well, it depends upon the ship.  If she's one of those collosal RCCL Allure of the Ever-Expanding-Universe floating shoe box things, you'd be among over 5,000 passengers (and I'm sure not all would be part of any DS on-board festival; I've done cruises as same-interest-orientated fund raising things and were just a bunch within the throng who had access to whatever reserved public rooms were given us;  after that, we all just melded in with the passenger load and you might not see another fan for the rest of the day).  Plus, there's lots to do on-board a cruise ship - quite often, they are the destination because of what they offer in limitless activities and things to see (there are art galleries and museums on many of them).  Stopping at some port or island is now becoming more secondary.  But they're still offered, and you can spend half the cruise, if not more (some stop at a port every day, anathema to those of us who choose to sail on a ship because we want to sail on a ship) joining a tour (usually over-priced) or just heading off on your own.

If they decide to have a festival on a ship, I hope they will consider the transatlantic ocean liner Queen Mary 2, which also does cruises.  Usually, she does a week-long New England/Maritime Provinces autumn cruise in between transatlantic voyages.  She stops at ports from Newport to Bar Harbor, so that would be perfect to take in some DS scenery.  I spent a month on board her during her maiden season in 2004.  She's grand, glorious and a tribute to the classic ocean liners of the past, and while being the same size as the RCCL Allure monstrosities, she carries less than half the passenger load so there are larger cabins, less crowded public rooms, no need to line up (unless you want to go into the Planetarium, the only one of its kind on the seas).

The only time I ever attended a DS festival was after completing a cruise to Bermuda on the ship Zenith.  After we disembarked and a friend picked us up, we headed off to Brooklyn.  As we talked with Robert "Adam" Rodan, he commented on where we got our tans.  He said (paraphrasing):  "Wouldn't a festival on a cruise ship be a great idea?"

Gerard

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Maggie:  "No!  Please!  No more tapioca!"

Gerard

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Yes, I, too, remember that wonderful actress Laura Collins.  But from what I recall, her career didn't go very far.  She did a few shtints on The $25,000 Pyramid and had a bit role in Friday the 13th Part XXXII:  Jason Goes to College.  Last I heard, she's developing a line of toaster cozies for QVC.  But I'll never forget watching her play Phoenix on DS.

Gerard

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Burke:  "I don't understand what you're talking about, Vicki.  What do you mean, you like the 'first Darren' better?  What's that got to do with me?"

Gerard

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Elizabeth:  "It's true, Victoria.  I saved us from financial ruin.  When 'Dialing for Dollars" called, I gave the right answer.  It was, oh, what's it's name, Belem, Brazil!"

Gerard

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Vicki:  "You need to accept it, Carolyn.  They told us Maggie's dead.  The obit's right here.  Now, you need to decide:  do you want chicken or fish at the funeral's repast?"

Gerard

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Sam:  "I love Maggie, Joe - she's my daughter.  But she's over 20 and all she does is nag, nag, nag.  Marry her already, willya!"

Gerard

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: July 28, 2012, 06:26:02 PM »
And don't forget, that in that same review scathing the original television DS, Cleveland Amory also said, after a week of watching it, he "missed it."  There's a lot to read into that comment.  He panned it (as most soaps, if not all soaps, were panned back then), but he obviously enjoyed it.  For him, it was undoubedly a guilty pleasure (and I wonder if he did go back to watching it, while never admitting it). 

It was like my mom, who always would yell from the kitchen:  "Are you watching that spooky crap again?"  But the moment Joan Bennett appeared, my mom, dish-towel in hand, would creep into the doorway of the living room and watch.  And when Quentin's Theme played on the radio, she'd turn up the volume and listen and afterwards would hum the melody over and over.  She even learned to ear-play it, one finger at a time, on our organ (I had the sheet music and performed it during the annual concert at our local conservatory where I took organ lessons).

Sometimes I think DS haters just like being contrarians.  DS was the most popular and one of the most iconographic soap operas of all time.  It set standards which exist to this day.  It influenced highly popular literary takes on vampires, from Salem's Lot to Interview With the Vampire to Twilight.  Other soaps began to introduce direct supernatural plots.  It's the only soap from its time where every episode (save parts of one) has been preserved in some form, has re-aired many times, is available on DVD, had two television remakes and inspired three motion pictures, all successful and profitable.  Is there any soap opera that has an annual festival that draws several thousand people?  How many soaps have had numerous documentaries produced about them?  Only one.  And soundtracks - don't forget the soundtracks.  I have seven of them and I don't think that's all of them.  There's a lot to be resentful of and to hate when one likes to go against the grain with something so unique, groundbreaking, successful and continuing in popularity.  Don't forget, many if not most critics initially panned The Wizard of Oz.  It's now listed in the top ten greatest motion pictures of all time.

These DS-haters, especially among the "younger" crowd, simply like being contrarians.  Being conditioned to enjoying what's only here for the moment and gone the next, they don't have the concept of something that has endured over time (with some exceptions).  For example, The Avengers was their big lovey-huggy, but no one hears much about it anymore.  It's now yesterday's news; it's no longer "trending."  Now it's the latest Batman movie (its reputation, however, sadly sullened by the tragedy).  Today's younger critics are formed by the do-it-now mentality.  For me, this little non-DS-related clip pretty much sums it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSSDeesUUsU

Gerard

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: July 28, 2012, 02:38:34 PM »
It took me awhile, David, but I found it:

http://movies.msn.com/2012-best-worst-so-far/photo-gallery/feature/

When I grew up, watching DS, the reaction in my neighborhood was the direct opposite.  Everyone who was anyone watched it and talked about it (and even played it).  We ran home from school, sometimes gathering in each other's houses to watch it together.  If someone wasn't a watcher, he or she was looked down upon as "not groovy."  As I mentioned before, when HoDS hit the screen, at the Saturday matinee I attended the line of kids went out the theater, down the street and around the corner.  DS merchandise was a BIG thing.  I had some of the comic books and Ross novels, and if owned the board game you were the king or queen of the world.

Gerard

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!
« on: July 28, 2012, 12:27:25 AM »
Regarding the MSN "review" of the top best and worst films of 2012, listing DS as one of the worst (saying such things as a "film nobody wanted to see" about a soap opera "no one cares about" and "no one remembers" [parapharsing]), it said that it went, parapharasing again, "into theaters and vanished quickly," it's surprising that it keep resurrecting in more and more theaters.  Again, what's this media hatred for DS?  How many theaters keep resurrecting that avengers super-hero stuff?  I know I don't care about super-heroes with sculpted abs and big pecs and hooters.  How utterly stupid.  I haven't seen the latest Batman thing.  I have no intention to.  Who cares about something so utterly stupid?  (Sorry to you Batman fans.)

Gerard

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Maggie:  "...and once we're wedded for all eternity, I expect you to take the garbage out, put your own socks in the hamper, take me out once a week for dinner and a movie and...why are you looking at me like that?"

Gerard