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Current Talk '05 II / So ... how many tried to jump off Widows Hill?
« on: December 11, 2005, 05:56:32 PM »
I see Vickie was a "jumper Widow Hiller", Josette, the girl from 1897 (forgot her name, she was running from Quentin/Petrofi). Anyone else? What was it about Widows Hill that made people want to jump off it?

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Current Talk '05 II / 1897 makeup
« on: November 03, 2005, 02:07:12 PM »
Does it seem that the makeup department was having a great time of it during the 1897 storyline? The layers of eye-shadow and rouge on everyone, especiallly the men, was exceptional. I noted some heavy light blue eye-powder on Louis Edmonds and the purple powder on the rest of them reminded me of Vogue eye-makeup ads. I got really distracted by all the blue eye-powder on Louis Edmonds when he was courting Kitty, it looked ridiculous to me. And, when Barnabas got whizzed back to 1795 you can tell how different he looked by his heavy cheek rouge, darker hair and heavy heavy purple eye makeup. Suprisingly, many of the women looked more natural. I noticed KLS seemed much less made up (no more fake eye lashes) but Nancy Barret had yucky eyebrow makeup looking really wierd. She even wore it as Millicent (in the 1795/1897 flashback scenes). What was up with all that?

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Current Talk '05 II / random 1897 comments ...
« on: October 01, 2005, 09:58:10 PM »
Well, I guess the days when the Collins' leading matriarch Naomi would moan "...when will all this END?!..." is over. Now it's "That Crazy Collins family" where no-one blinks an eye over the ghostly possession of Charity Trask in her frills and feathers or a sullen Barnbabas (from England again) skulking about after plunging a stake through the heart of another doppleganger vampire Barnabas. The supernatural has taken over the family and everyone has their own supernatural life/death struggle to care or notice what anyone else does.

Anyway, all the acting is terrific though and the regulars improved tremendously. The casting crew really had a knack for talent. But, that all said:

My worst 1897 storylines so far: Count Petrofi - way too much airtime spent on this nonesense but Thayer D. is always excellent. All the Petrofi hangers-on - Aristede, the Blackmore fellow with the chains, the crickly glove/hand, the possession of Quention. It was just all too much and too much time spent away from the more interesting Collins stuff ...

The best and makes it worth watching so far: Kitty/Josette reincarnation and Barnabas. Very very engaging and sad because barely touched upon (barely stuck in between Petrofi's trance). The chemistry was right too and it appears KLS started to take the Josette/Barnabas pairing seriously and was touchingly sincere and believable. Also, I sensed a new maturity in KLS. What a great Kitty/Barnie and Edward triangle it would have made!!

Judith and Trask. Judith locking her Trask husband in a room and calling him periodically was fantastic. Fantastic acting by Joan Bennett and Jerry Lacy (who is much more solid). Great writing and tone.

The sullen Collins crowd: Judith, Edward, Charity (such as she is), Edith. Quentin is a handsome dude but I wished they gave him more interesting stuff to do.

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Current Talk '05 II / Jerry Lacy's Reverend Trask - any opinions?
« on: August 20, 2005, 09:49:16 PM »
Like Robert Rodan, Jerry Lacy is another competent actor I don't see much discussion about. Maybe it's because he completely inhibits his role without allot of ego or scene stealing. Don't know why he fades into the woodwork sometimes because the Reverend Trask is a pivotal DS character.
Can't say I have much of an opinion on his work as Ton Peterson but as Reverend Trask;

- I wonder if JL thought this character out very throroughly as Trask's lethal personality unfolds itself slowly. At first, despite the scary dark clothing, he is charming, quiet, reflective but scarily sure of himself.

- I think one of his best scenes was Trasks deceptively quiet interrogation of Daniel. His knowing smirks up into the sky when thunder claps is great stuff. JL never overplays it and if you're not paying attention you might not catch or understand why Trask obviously felt thunder was either a sign from the "Devil" or a sign from "God" leading him on.   

- he's a fanatic but his corporate persona is so intelligently interwoven in Trasks' personality that one can believe he has been able to execute at will suspected witches with the public's approval.

Any opinions on Lacy and Reverend Trask? Good or bad, don't care.

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Current Talk '05 I / The Best of Angelique/Lara Parker
« on: April 23, 2005, 07:36:39 PM »
Boo!!....hiss!! ....how I hate Angelique but there's no denying that, outside of Barnabas, Willie Loomis or Quentin, she is one of the most famous characters to emerge from the Dark Shadows series. I'm curious how people feel about Lara Parker's acting abilities as Angelique.
The writing for her is (in my opinion) intensly odd and unique. Fluttering her worried eyes one moment in apparent sincerity and scheming one death after another the next. I guess calling her a sociopath isn't too far from the truth. Well, my favorite Angelique scene where she seems genuinely chilling is early 1795 just before she starts her spells. Angelique is sitting her in room and Lara Parker's voice is soliquizing Angelique's thoughts. that she "washes Josette's clothes, cleans her bed...that Josette orders her..."and she does" but that in her (Angelique's) room "she orders Josette" meanwhile Angelique's head is slowly moving from side to side, her eyes ice cold, her expression evil, almost doll-like. Terrific scene, I felt, and very revealing. This woman is a witch.

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Current Talk '04 II / Any opinions on Anita Bolster
« on: December 04, 2004, 05:27:39 PM »
I've just got DS tape#44 (1795) and within Joshua collins and Countess Duprey summon the good witch, Bathia Mapes, to help rid Barnabas of his curse. I was so impressed with this actress that I did a web search and saw a Dark Shadows discussion stating how really baaad she was. I was stunned, because I found her to be excellent. Granted, she missed some lines and evidently couldn't see the monitor and I did hear someone off-screen shouting them to her, but geez she must have been over 70yrs old.

I wonder if Spielberg saw these episodes because this character kinda forshadows the future Poltergeist ghostbuster Tangina Barrons and she's just as good. Any opinions?

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Current Talk '04 II / Josette back from the dead
« on: July 12, 2004, 03:04:56 AM »
I've been watching tape #40 when [spoiler]Barnabas wills Josette to "come to him" back from the dead. Ug! these writers sure didn't give Josette/Barnabas fans much to be happy about. I think I would have appreciated a small but simple "I will always love you" or something like that before Josette walked right back to her grave but all I got was "I can feel neither love nor hate".[/spoiler] geez...perhaps they were setting the Angelique/Barnabas story up and wanted the audiences' sympathy and considering what Angelique did the writers would be needing lots of it. Anyway...I wanted to comment that JF did an excellent job with the lovesick, guilt ridden, and probably half-mad Barnabas moaning and [spoiler]comanding the dead and mutilated corpse of Josette to come to him from her grave to the old house.[/spoiler] Those scenes could have been laughingly stupid but he carried them off and made them quite exciting. There will probably be nothing like it on TV again.

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Current Talk '04 I / The BEST of Jonathan Frid
« on: June 07, 2004, 04:46:36 AM »
In all fairness to Mr. Frid I felt compelled to create a discussion in balance to the "JF bloopers" post. Yep, his dialogue flubs were doozies but I'd like to point out some JF highs, if I can.

i can think of lots but there is one scene that comes to mind:

1) 1795, Barnabas becomes a vampire and starts a killing spree on the town prostitues. Classic JF...early victim waterfront scene with high-spirited, mischievous but good-hearted Ruby Tate (who was that actress?). Barnabas approaches quietly in the fog as Ruby is expecting her married lover (or someone). In direct response to her cheerful nature Barnabas goes through all sorts of emotional turmoil. First he's quietly sadly menacing in his approach and like a smart vicitim (unknowingly) Ruby humanizes herself by recognizing him and stating his name. The dynamics change. After some dialogue they connect and laugh about Reverand Bland writng a sermon over her and looking like a duck. After a pause he is menacing again and asks if she's expecting someone. I especially enjoyed Barnabas'/JF's dry laugh when Ruby slyly tells him her lover isn't important, as anyway, he probably couldn't get away from his wife. Then, when Ruby giggles that she can't wait to tell the "girls" she's been out with Barnabas Collins he suddenly raises his voice in fear and, moving in closer, tells her she musn't tell anyone she's seen him. Dangerous and unpredictable... yet just as abruptly, haltingly, with those sad eyes, sais he has to leave. She flirtratiously coaxes "you don't REALLY want to leave, do you?" "no", he sais, his voice heavy and leering. Totally menacing now as the vampire he approaches her, she falls back in fear and into the water. He shouts in horror and sadness "Ruby!!".  Poor Barnabas, I'm thinking, and he was going to kill HER. What struck me so much about that scene was the amazing give-and-take chemistry between JF and the actress and JF's sensitivity that he was able to so cearly reveal Barnabas' traumatic internal struggles between the vampire and what was left over from his human self in the shadings of that performance. His human characteristics being a natural warmth and an obviously sympathy towards Ruby.

I did not sense any dialogue flubs, hesitations or wrong notes. It was simply perfect in every respect.

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Current Talk '04 I / Angelique..why do people LIKE this woman?
« on: April 04, 2004, 10:53:35 PM »
Common, let's battle this one out! I usually hold out BIG TIME over Angelique but my disqust over her knows no bounds!

Thought Lara Parker was tremendous in the role but the character was psychotic and responsible (if not directly but indirectly) for murder after murder. What I can't understand is why people feel sympathetic towards her. I see Angelique as a great villaness ...strong, seductive, evil and manipulative but I never saw her as a heroine or anyone capable of leading a normal life. As the DS's most successful "bad person" the race should have been on to get rid of her like Professor Moriarty in the Sherlock Holmes stories. I guess the DS writers did their job only TOO well...the audience became just as spellbound as eventually did Barnabas, though I feel his final submission to Angelique was one of the most profoundly disturbing things to come of DS and obviously the result of a Stockholm Syndrome.

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Current Talk '04 I / Hey! was Jonathan Frid sexy?
« on: February 16, 2004, 07:26:01 PM »
I'm still not quite sure why I just loved him as Barnabas. But was he sexy? My personal opinion is that the character of Barnabas could have been very very sexy and/or erotic indeed, but did JF play that potential up...nope, not in my opinion. And why was that? The times perhaps? His religious upbringing? Or was it that he was fearless in his interpretation of Barnabas in going anywhere except THERE.
Opinions anyone? Negative or positive, I'm curious.


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Current Talk '04 I / 1795/6 Josette
« on: January 11, 2004, 01:25:32 AM »
Even more striking than the different hair color or accent is the personality overhaul.  The RT Josette of 1795/6 never struck me as a particularly self-aware, or strong-willed, young woman.

i agree with this statement totally and in some ways her lack of self-awareness enabled the Barnabas/Angelique affair. I  never watched 1841 but in 1795 I thought the writers only gave drips and drabs of Josette's personality focusing more on her role as the feminine victim. I did get an indication that she was a perfectionist, had high standards for herself, and was somewhat immature. I also felt she was under pressure from her wealthy family, being the only child, to be a perfect, correct person, and in doing so probably hadn't developed her personality to its fullest. Because of these qualities Josette might have had a hard time trusting her initial feelings, or expressing her feelings, for Barnabas, creating a temporary distance between them and thus leaving room for the Angelique/Barnabas affair. If she had married Barnabas and lived in Collinwood I could envision her trying to imitate Naomi's gentle and motherly nature to please Barnabas and keep his high, if a little idealized, opinion of her. Josette was a people pleaser and Barnabas seemed to admire her poise and that she listened so well to others. Josette was a lady as per the standards of the time and it's safe to say Barnabas admired her good breeding, much like his own.

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Current Talk '04 I / 1795 101 discussion...
« on: January 01, 2004, 03:30:15 PM »
HAPPY NEW YEAR!...by the way...
Hi, this is my first new topic post here. Since my enthusiasm for Dark Shadows centers around the 1795 storyline (though 1841 sounds interesting too) I'd like to start a 1795 discussion post on the story merits and weakness of that classic period. I am specifically targeting the writing but please feel free to add anything that interests you...I adore watching 1795 on tape but there are two major weaknesses in the story that always bothered me and wondered if anyone else felt the same...?

1. Jeramiah's ghost: What happened here? After doing a brilliant job introducing all new characters allowing for commitment and affection from the audience WHY was Jeramiah treated so callously after he became "Jeramiah's ghost"? Was it that the actor, Anthony George, left before his story ended thus making it neccessary for an elaborately bandaged stand-in? Was management angry at him and so dismissed the character who before that time was affectionately and warmly treated. I think Jeramiah's demise was the most tragic of them all because he was a total pawn and victim of the A/B/J triangle and whose humanity and life was cruelly snuffed out with hardly a thought from anyone except to be a "placeholder goul" until Barnabas took over that role as the vampire. Yes, Barnabas and Josette grieved somewhat but I feel the writing did not allow for the full implications of his death to be felt especially after his poor eye-popping ghost was dragged and used all over the old and new house by an incredibly unrepentant Angelique.

2) Why didn't Barnabas tell Josette that Angelique was the witch and that he had an affair with her back in Matinique and/or WHY couldn't they have had Josette figure it out for herself? Major MAJOR writing weakness. I feel that someone, either one of the Collins' or Vickie should have been allowed to figure out that Angelique might have been the witch. It was just too easy for Angelique. I mean, yes Vickie was a strange anomoly in that time but if she were that powerful why was she allowing herself to STAY in jail, be tried and executed. What did she have to gain by all the deaths and strange occurrances? The only person who did gain anything was Angelique. She got a new husband and large house while everyone else was suffering. I feel the story, especially at the end when Josette jumped off widows hill, would have been even more exciting if Barnabas had confided to Josette or Vickie about the witch. It was just screaming to be told.

Well, those are the two major issues that bothered me. Anyone else have comments?

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