DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
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Here's a nice alternative for west coasters who may not be able to make the official 40th anniversary festival. Several Dark Shadoows actors are scheduled to appear at the Hollywood Collectors show at the Burbank Hilton on the weekend of October 14th, 2006. So far, they list David Selby, Katherine Leigh Scott, Lara Parker and Roger Davis. Be aware this is a "pay"show, all stars sell their autographs. I have been to the show before and they usually have a great line-up of interesting persons, as well as a good selection of all types of movie memorabilia. Here a link: http://www.hollywoodcollectorshow.com/Burbank.htm
I would expect regular updates between now and the show date.
Michael :D
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I've a bone to pick with those people: on numerous occasions I've asked them via e-mail why they don't have a similiar event here in New York, and they have never answered!!!!
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I would imagine the problem is that all the stars mentioned are based in the L.A. area. That means no one has to pay to get them to the show. If the show was held in the N.Y. area, they would either have to bring those stars to NY....or showcase NY stars.
When you think about it, the situation in New York is very different. You know exactly where to find the performers. If you want autographs of Broadway stars, all you have to do is buy a ticket to the show, and be prepared to wait at the stage door when it's over. They are, for the most part, very happy to spend time with the fans. My daughter's collection of autographed Playbills is turning into a paper tower.
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I know that there are a lot of NY-based stars who would attend an event like this, and I'm sure that even some of the L.A. bunch would come to NY if they had the chance to do a show. Why the organizers haven't tried is beyond me- a potential goldmine could be made here. Nothing ventured, nothing gained!!!
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You don't even have to buy a ticket to a show in NYC. When Raquel Welch did Victor/Victoria on Broadway, I took my Myra Breckenridge movie poster to the stage door. She signed it!
David
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Charlie:
go to chillertheatre.com
the Chiller show happens twice a year in North Jersey and always has a great guest list. I used to attend Chiller when I lived on the East Coast & got dozens of autographs.
Living in Staten Island as you do, you can drive over the Bayonne Bridge & get to Chiller in 30 mins.
David
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I would imagine the problem is that all the stars mentioned are based in the L.A. area. That means no one has to pay to get them to the show. If the show was held in the N.Y. area, they would either have to bring those stars to NY....or showcase NY stars.
When you think about it, the situation in New York is very different. You know exactly where to find the performers. If you want autographs of Broadway stars, all you have to do is buy a ticket to the show, and be prepared to wait at the stage door when it's over. They are, for the most part, very happy to spend time with the fans. My daughter's collection of autographed Playbills is turning into a paper tower.
That's basically the case. Most of the people at the Hollywood show can literally drive over, so they get to go home at night. many of the people at the Hollywood show are seniors and need the rest at the end of the day. The expense of flying people to shows has grown enormously over the past few years. I had asked a convention organizer I know very well about say, Shane Bryant for example for a Hammer themed show, and Shane lives in Australia or New Zealand, and its not that he didn't want to attend, its just the number of flight hours and the cost of flying someone from that distance. The Hollywood show is able to have the number of guests as so many live in the area, or relatively close so travel expenses are reduced.
the Chiller show happens twice a year in North Jersey and always has a great guest list. I used to attend Chiller when I lived on the East Coast & got dozens of autographs.
Chiller is probably the closest thing we have. Now, admittedly, the "personality" of the two shows are quite different. The same can be said of most different conventions I've been too. The Hollywood show is more general movie and TV actors, and Chiller is more horror film focused. Nonetheless. last fall's Chiller had cast reunions for "I Dream of Jeanie" and "Batman" 1966. [Bat](Not to mention four of the ladies of Dark Shadows.) Chiller has more grown more general outreach, although lately, its been more to wrestlers than anything else beyond the horror stars lately.
Bottom line for any show nowawadays is cost, travel and availability.
One has to realize too, that although some people may not be as big a star as say, Tom Cruise or Jack Nicholson, which would be unmanageable at a regular autograph show, but "cult" status also makes some guests appearences difficult to manages. I can only speculate that it might be impossible to have say Tim Curry or Eric Braeden at a show for example. In the case of the latter, I would love to ask him about his work in "Escape from the Planet of the Apes," but after decades on the soaps, his appearence would likely be flooded.
Michael
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You don't even have to buy a ticket to a show in NYC. When Raquel Welch did Victor/Victoria on Broadway, I took my Myra Breckenridge movie poster to the stage door. She signed it!
That depends a great deal on the actor. Some television/film actors refuse to sign anything other than the playbill or items related to the specific show they are performing in at the time. Loretta Swit, for example, absolutely refused to sign anything related to M*A*S*H when she was appearing in the Vagina Monologues off-Broadway several years ago.
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That depends a great deal on the actor. Some television/film actors refuse to sign anything other than the playbill or items related to the specific show they are performing in at the time. Loretta Swit, for example, absolutely refused to sign anything related to M*A*S*H when she was appearing in the Vagina Monologues off-Broadway several years ago.
That's too bad. Since she is most identified with M*A*S*H. In a way I can see her point. On the other hand I can't think of her in other things. She will always be Hot Lips Houlihan to me.
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Most actors are quite willing to sign whatever you present to them when they are doing a show as long as you don't accost them as they are running to the theater to make their "call" and afterwards make it clear that you saw the show they were just in.
nancy
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i'm not really into getting autographs unless someome wants to sign a check
for me heehee so paying for one is just not for me! i just like to see the stars
i know they make money for them but i'd rather buy a movie or book and i
find these show with big athletes selling their signatures replusive and refuse to
go to them.
jennifer
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i know they make money for them
Which I quite frankly don't understand. If you're so damn desperate for cash that you have to SELL your signature, here's a thought....GET A JOB! LOL! Sheesh, sometime celebs are the biggest damn crybaby's! ::) What's wrong w/working a 'regular' job like the rest of us? So what if the acting career is over, they're always hiring at Mickey D's LOL! ;)
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Which I quite frankly don't understand. If you're so damn desperate for cash that you have to SELL your signature, here's a thought....GET A JOB! LOL! Sheesh, sometime celebs are the biggest damn crybaby's! ::) What's wrong w/working a 'regular' job like the rest of us? So what if the acting career is over, they're always hiring at Mickey D's LOL! ;)
Sadly, I think James Hall recently asked me if I wanted any new socks with those Florsheims. ;)
Michael
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If I got my hands on a really excellent photo of Willie Loomis, the very last thing I'd want is John Karlen's signature all over it. I never have understood that autograph thing.....have I Midnite? [lghy]
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I never have understood that autograph thing.....have I Midnite? <lghy>
LOL, nope, she just doesn't get it. <sigh>
jennifer, can you take a later train? :(
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I remember how confused and slightly crestfallen Lara Parker looked when I asked for a non-signed NODS pic from her table many years ago, when I was trying to acculumulate every photographic image from the film that exists. She sells a shot from the deleted poolhouse scene which is fairly hard to come by as an original, so it was a must.
"After waiting in line all this time, you don't want a signature??...Okay...." :o
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I never have understood that autograph thing.....have I Midnite? <lghy>
LOL, nope, she just doesn't get it. <sigh>
jennifer, can you take a later train? :(
yeah we could leave around 6-7pm we haven't decided to drive
or take the train yet
i'm with you rainey i just could care less about autographs we used to go get red sox players
in the old days for free and god knows what i did with them LOL
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That depends a great deal on the actor. Some television/film actors refuse to sign anything other than the playbill or items related to the specific show they are performing in at the time. Loretta Swit, for example, absolutely refused to sign anything related to M*A*S*H when she was appearing in the Vagina Monologues off-Broadway several years ago.
I can understand their position, to a point. Actors, including our own DS stars, don't want to dwell on something they did YEARS ago, but want to be appreciated for what they are currently doing. This is one of the reasons that Jonathan started doing his readings at Fests, he got bored answering the SAME old questions year after year. They want to move on just like everyone else does. Now, that said, if the fan had a Playbill of The Vagina Monologues AND a picture of her as Hot Lips, I don't see why she'd refuse to sign both since she was appreciated by the fan in both projects. Just my two Euros! ;D
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If I were an actor in that position, I would have signed whatever the fan asked me to as I would have assumed he/she came to see me in the role. I would not sign it if I suspected the fan had not gone to see the show I did just a half hour before.
Jonathan had many fans come backstage after a performance of one of his one man shows and Arsenic and Old Lace and freely admit they did not see the one man show or the play. They just came backstage forthe autograph. He still signed what was asked of him but he was less than thrilled the fan had no interest in seeing his new work.
Nancy
I can understand their position, to a point. Actors, including our own DS stars, don't want to dwell on something they did YEARS ago, but want to be appreciated for what they are currently doing. This is one of the reasons that Jonathan started doing his readings at Fests, he got bored answering the SAME old questions year after year. They want to move on just like everyone else does. Now, that said, if the fan had a Playbill of The Vagina Monologues AND a picture of her as Hot Lips, I don't see why she'd refuse to sign both since she was appreciated by the fan in both projects. Just my two Euros! ;D
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Jonathan had many fans come backstage after a performance of one of his one man shows and Arsenic and Old Lace and freely admit they did not see the one man show or the play. They just came backstage forthe autograph. He still signed what was asked of him but he was less than thrilled the fan had no interest in seeing his new work.
I have such a regret about missing that show, but I wasn't long out of college and funds were tighter then. Especially as since then I've met Larry Storch and Marion Ross who both spoke highly of the production.
Michael :-
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I'm sorry too! I have been in that position myself not being able to see shows because of money.
I think what galls me about the story I related above is that the fans who came backstage to get an autograph without seeing the show don't seem to get that the actor they like so much is only able to make a living with paying customers coming to the theater.
Nancy
I have such a regret about missing that show, but I wasn't long out of college and funds were tighter then. Especially as since then I've met Larry Storch and Marion Ross who both spoke highly of the production.
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I have such a regret about missing that show, but I wasn't long out of college and funds were tighter then. Especially as since then I've met Larry Storch and Marion Ross who both spoke highly of the production.
Me too, and it played for weeks at the Kennedy Center in Washington. I'd see the banner on the building for it driving to/from work too, but at that point was too star struck to go see him. Can you imagine? Nowadays that wouldn't stop me at all and in fact didn't stop me in 1990 when I went to my first Fest at the World Trade Center. ;)
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My most profound regret as a lifelong Dark Shadows fan, is that (as a young fellow) I never sojurned over to the Big Apple to try and get the autographs of the late, lamented Anita "Bathia Mapes" Bolster and Daniel "The Eagle Hill Cemetery Caretaker" Keyes. :'(
(Oh, well, maybe I will someday be fortunate/blessed enough, to get Mr. Bob O'Connell's autograph, at an AARP convention, no doubt!)! ;D [beer] [clap]
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My most profound regret as a lifelong Dark Shadows fan, is that (as a young fellow) I never sojurned over to the Big Apple to try and get the autographs of the late, lamented Anita "Bathia Mapes" Bolster and Daniel "The Eagle Hill Cemetery Caretaker" Keyes. :'(
I'm very glad that I was able to get Tim Gordon's autograph at I *think* my first Fest, circa 1990, but lament that I wasn't bright enough to get in line IMMEDIATELY when Joan Bennet hit the stage as she only signed for about an hour. Karlenfan did get up and got it, lucky her. I also regret not getting to meet Clarice Blackburn and get her autograph. Mrs. Johnson is tied with Buzz as my favorite supporting DS character.
(Oh, well, maybe I will someday be fortunate/blessed enough, to get Mr. Bob O'Connell's autograph, at an AARP convention, no doubt!)!
I'm happy to say that I was able to get Michael Hadge's, aka Buzz, autograph! Actually, Karlenfan got it for me, but hey, I got it! ;D
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I never have understood that autograph thing.....
I always thought it was just the polite way you got a chance to come face to face and say hello to one of your favorite actors. ;)
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I never have understood that autograph thing.....
I always thought it was just the polite way you got a chance to come face to face and say hello to one of your favorite actors. ;)
good point CastleBee ;)
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Here's a link to Todd's Autograph Arena. I think you guys will enjoy this. He writes a nice column about his trips to the Autograph shows and his encounters with celebrities, and he doesn't hold back. Scroll down to the 7/10/02 journal entry for Loretta Swit's incident.
http://www.toddsautographarena.com/wnnewc.html
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The blogger is entitled to his opinion of the experience, but Loretta Swit's behavior at an appearance that was non-DS related is off topic for these boards. But since her name has come up in the discussion of actors who charge for autographs, I'll add that I think her well-known history of donating the proceeds raised from signing MASH items to animal rights activities sets her apart from actors who seek only personal profit.
BTW, a post in the topic was edited per the Forum Guidelines, specifically #7, that refers to the posting of gossip and libel. The poster is welcome to send me a PM if there are any questions about it.
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I never have understood that autograph thing.....
I always thought it was just the polite way you got a chance to come face to face and say hello to one of your favorite actors. ;)
If it's a case where one has a chance to meet and perhaps talk with the star, then I can understand it, as it provides the means to have that meeting and leaves one with a memento to remember it. But I always wonder what it means to most people getting autographs - I'm thinking particularly of thngs like tennis tournaments. After the match people hold out their programs or whatever and the players rapidly scribble (probably just their initials, they go so fast) on as many as they can. They don't even see the fans, just write their names on as many as possible. What possible meaning could that have for the fan? It's beyond me.
In the instances where one can actually meet the person, it would seem that the meeting would be the great part, the autograph just incidental. So, I too, don't understand the autograph thing!
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So, I too, don't understand the autograph thing!
I have to admit, I don't get the autograph thing either, yet I have many autographs! But I don't know why I got them, they have no real value as I never plan on selling them on ebay etc...I guess it's like Josette said, it's a way to MEET and TALK TO a celeb, and the autograph is secondary. ;) I guess it's more of a 'sentimental' thing. Now, it IS nice when the star writes a little note along w/their name. The actor who played the captain on Emergency! did that w/his autograph and it was nice.
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Roger Davis will not be at the Collectors Show due to business commitments.
It was wonderful when I met Roger in Charlotte. He autographed my things for me with inscriptions and my name. I also had my picture taken with him several times. I had never gone to a show before so I didn't know what to expect. It was really nice that it was so personal. That he took the time to actually talk with me in the line. It was wonderful sitting beside him at the dinner it gave us even more time to chat. And we all know how Roger can talk. He did let me talk also. Actually in a one on one he doesn't dominate the conversation. All in all it was a great experience.
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i'm not really into getting autographs unless someome wants to sign a check
for me heehee so paying for one is just not for me! i just like to see the stars
i know they make money for them but i'd rather buy a movie or book and i
find these show with big athletes selling their signatures replusive and refuse to
go to them.
Actually if anyone wants the backstory on when and why actors at cons/shows started CHARGING for autographs, Jennifer put her finger RIGHT on the reason. It was the example of the Sports stars -- and you can blame certain actors from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine for starting the trend with actors.
Reason I know this was that back then I worked a few weekends a year for what was then Creation Conventions, back when the events they put together were more like conventions than the arena sized shows with no fan contact with the talent which are now the ONLY thing most people know as "Star Trek Cons". For many years actors did cons unpaid except for a per diem and travel expenses then they went to being paid, which turned their con appearances into speaking engagements for pay only, with very little interest in the fans. Autographs were also done for no charge, even when a dealer would show up with a dozen or more that the actor KNEW they would sell for a profit.
Then , as I said, one or more (I forget the particulars and I'm not about to name names anyway) of the actors from the third Trek series, having had no experience with Fandom, considered the experience simply an engagment for pay and wanted parity with the sports stars charging for autographs. So, Creation started charging for autographs, and photo ops. Eventually even the old guard went along with it cause, frankly, if everyone else was being paid, and they hadn't seen a residual in years, they would have been fools not to take the money.
So, this is why the promoter run shows all charge for autographs and photo ops, and the ones like the Fest who don't are almost non existant these days.
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personally having had no prior experience with fandom of any kind the 2003 fest was a first.
in hindsight i should have known better but when i first stumbled upon kathryn leigh scott at her table(selling her books of course,which i already owned)i randomly handed her whatever piece of paper was in my hand and asked her for an autograph and she was nice enough to oblige.
true many of the stars have things like books and cds to sell but i believe that they all do the program signing for free.that's pretty nice.
i've never been to a "star trek" type con but they look like zoos.we should be happy for the more intimate type of setting that we get. :P
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My first Fest was at Tarrytown, which, I'm certain, was a smaller than usual crowd. I'm not looking forward to hordes of fans in Brooklyn. I liked seeing Mr. Karlen repeatedly, going in and out the lobby. :D
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My first Fest was at Tarrytown, which, I'm certain, was a smaller than usual crowd. I'm not looking forward to hordes of fans in Brooklyn. I liked seeing Mr. Karlen repeatedly, going in and out the lobby. :D
I remember when I first met the old man. He took my hand and thanked me for the movies I sent him. But when we went out to breakfast, he called me a hillbilly on account of I slathered my scrambled eggs with ketchup.
I wish the Fest wuz at Tarrytown again so I could access my Jeep and drive anywhere without paying a fee to fetch my car.
See you in the crowds, kids! Mrs. Callabash, wherever you are...
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I remember when I first met the old man. He took my hand and thanked me for the movies I sent him.
The reason I think so highly of Johnny is he seems GENUINELY happy to see all of us and last year when I complimented him on his dramatic weight loss (he apparently had lost a whopping 70 lbs between the Tarrytown Fest and Hollywood) he took my hand and VERY sincerely said, "Oh, thank you so much sweetheart! That means SO much to me!"
He's awesome! :)
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Several Dark Shadoows actors are scheduled to appear at the Hollywood Collectors show at the Burbank Hilton on the weekend of October 14th, 2006. So far, they list David Selby, Katherine Leigh Scott, Lara Parker and Roger Davis.
It was already indicated elsewhere in this thread that Roger Davis won't be attending the show. David Selby won't be either, though they still list his name.
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Actually if anyone wants the backstory on when and why actors at cons/shows started CHARGING for autographs, Jennifer put her finger RIGHT on the reason. It was the example of the Sports stars -- and you can blame certain actors from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine for starting the trend with actors.
Reason I know this was that back then I worked a few weekends a year for what was then Creation Conventions, back when the events they put together were more like conventions than the arena sized shows with no fan contact with the talent which are now the ONLY thing most people know as "Star Trek Cons". For many years actors did cons unpaid except for a per diem and travel expenses then they went to being paid, which turned their con appearances into speaking engagements for pay only, with very little interest in the fans. Autographs were also done for no charge, even when a dealer would show up with a dozen or more that the actor KNEW they would sell for a profit.
Then , as I said, one or more (I forget the particulars and I'm not about to name names anyway) of the actors from the third Trek series, having had no experience with Fandom, considered the experience simply an engagment for pay and wanted parity with the sports stars charging for autographs. So, Creation started charging for autographs, and photo ops. Eventually even the old guard went along with it cause, frankly, if everyone else was being paid, and they hadn't seen a residual in years, they would have been fools not to take the money.
So, this is why the promoter run shows all charge for autographs and photo ops, and the ones like the Fest who don't are almost non existant these days.
I was a Trekker years ago. Oh, the Creation conivery.
I think the best thing about the DS Fest is that the proceeds benefit a charity. That said...thank goodness it's Alzheimer's because that is where I'm heading.