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To start off this topic for what would have been Innovation's Book 4 in their '91 DS Comic series I'm going to share everything that was said in ShadowGram regarding Book 4 up to and including SG #66. Some of the info had slipped into a few things that I've already posted in the topics for the Books 1, 2 & 3, but I'd held off on posting most of it. And gathering it all here makes it a lot easier to see how things progressed.
From SG #58, November 1991:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_58_5_1a.jpg)
From SG #62, October 1992:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_62_6_4.jpg)
From SG #63, January 1993:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_63_4_6a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_63_5_3a.jpg)
From SG #64, April 1993:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_64_5_1a.jpg)(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_64_5_1b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_64_5_6a.jpg)
From SG #65, July 1993:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_65_5_4.jpg)
From SG #66, October 1993:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_66_5_3a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_66_5_4.jpg)
I've said this before, but if Book 4 was truly going to follow what was planned for the 2nd season of the '91 Series, after Vicki's return from 1790, similar to the original series, she wouldn't fully remember that in 1790 Barnabas became a vampire or that the present day Barnabas is the same Barnabas as in 1790 (those details are discussed in Kathleen Resch's SHADOWS IN THE '90S: The Dark Shadows Concordance 1991). The thinking was that Vicki would never accept Barnabas as a vampire. But then, given David Campiti's many other claims throughout Innovation's comic series, should anyone be surprised that he would twist the truth? Though, considering Book 4 never happened, the point is moot.
Also, given the closure of Innovation in December 1993, David Campiti's insistence in October that Book 4 "will happen" could come across as wishful thinking. But supposedly none of the creative talent had any idea bankruptcy was so close at hand...
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That strikes me as a lot of plot for a 4 issue comic series. Vicki's realization that Barnabas is and was the vampire is new ground and would very much affect her relationships with Barnabas, Julia, Willie and Carolyn. What would she have done with this knowledge? Would she be an ally or would this turn her against the others? Would this put an end to her romance with Barnabas?
The whole Angelique issue is another example of what irritated me about the Innovation series, the need to fill in gaps that really didn't need to be filled in. We have enough information about her to follow the plot. Her actions kinda make as much sense as anyone else's.
The back story probably works better for the original series Angelique, who had a lot more depth to her character. Lara Parker was much better suited to telling that Angelique's back story than to the NBC character.
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[pointing-up] I couldn't agree with you more Uncle Roger! There was absolutely no need to give Julia's background a supernatural twist as was done in Book 1. To me it actually diluted the character rather than enhanced her. One of the best things about Julia in every other version of DS is that she's fully human and her skill set comes completely from science, not magic. But don't even get me started again on Barrettstown!
And with Vicki remembering Barnabas is a vampire, not only does that bring up so many complications with Barnabas, Julia, Willie and Carolyn, and Vicki and Barnabas' romance (though I'm sure many of those complications could have been fascinating to see unfold) we also have to remember that there have been hints along the way that Laura will be back. I don't believe any of the teases specifically said she would be back in Book 4 (I'll have to check on that), but once I post what SG #67 shares, there's little doubt that Laura was to be a part of at least Book 4, Issue 1. That would have REALLY complicated matters!! But then, if Barrettstown proved anything, it was that David Campiti was perfectly capable of complicating matter more than they needed to be. [ghost_rolleyes]
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That artwork that you posted awhile back seemed to indicate that Laura's return was definitely in the works. When you add that to the Vicki cliffhanger and the Angelique origin, that's a lot of plot for a tv series, let alone a comic book. Even if Innovation had not gone out of business, with their erratic publishing schedule. It would have taken them years to get all of this in print. That's the kiss of death to a continued story.
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[pointing-up] It would have certainly been interesting to have seen how long it might have taken. It would have just been interesting to see how long it would have been before Book 4, Issue 1 even came out considering that Sccott Rockwell hadn't even finished scripting all of Book 3...
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Here's what SG #67 from January 1994 had to say about Book 4:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_67_3_3.jpg)
It's very interesting that Hector Gomez had already painted all 4 of Book 4's covers. And even though SG shared copies of the first two, I'm just going to share the first in this post:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_67_3_4.jpg)
Given her dark hair (perhaps as Trask accused on the original series, "The Devil has painted your hair," which I've always loved from the second I'd first heard it in Ep #519), it appears that they may have been going to go with some sort of a Laura/Cassandra hybrid. And for that reason I'm going to hold off sharing a much better, color version of the first Book 4 cover because along with it I want to share what Kathleen Resch's SHADOWS IN THE '90S: The Dark Shadows Concordance 1991 had to say about what the '91 Series' writers were thinking regarding Laura and Cassandra - but I haven't pulled out that book to scan it yet...
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Here's the color version of the cover for Book 4, Issue 1:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Book4_Issue1_Cover.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Book4_Issue1_Cover.jpg) for a 2009X2846 version)
Presumably it's Laura or whomever who's on fire as a Phoenix and not Collinwood that's on fire. But after what we learned on the '91 Series about David's penchant for fire, who knows?
And here's what Kathleen Resch's SHADOWS IN THE '90S: The Dark Shadows Concordance 1991 regarding Laura and Angelique if there had been a second season. (There actually isn't a mention of Cassandra - I must have confused this source with whatever that source is. And if/when I come across it, I will share what it had to say regarding Cassandra possibly making an appearance if there had been a second season. But the woman on the cover certainly looks more Cassandra than Laura - especially considering that in every instance when we saw an image of Laura on the '91 Series and even in the comic she's been a blonde.):
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/DSC1991_140_2.jpg)
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If Laura had been Angelique all along, how does that not contradict her earlier appearances as a phantom? I really don't like the idea of Angelique possessing Laura. She'd already done that with Julia and Maggie. It needed a new twist. Also, if Angelique was so powerful, would she really have allowed herself to be put in an institution for an extended period. The Phoenix is probably the best solution, though it doesn't mean they'd have gone that way.
I'm not sure how the plot of the Gene Tierney movie would have adapted to DS. Would Roger have been the Waldo Lydecker equivalent? Louis Edmonds could have played that perfectly but I can't really see Roy Thinnes in that context.
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[pointing-up] I agree with all your points, particularly that when it came to a 2nd season of the '91 Series the phoenix was probably the best solution - and David's already established obsession with fire would have worked in perfectly with it. But we probably can't even begin to second guess what choice the comic might have made for Laura in Book 4 because outrageous choices seemed to be their forte! It's sad to say, but even if they established Laura as an alien from Venus (Venus being the "fire planet," after all) it wouldn't have surprised me. [ghost_rolleyes]
As for how the movie Laura might have factored in, I have no idea because I've never seen it. (And even though a friend bought the DVD a few years back, we have yet to make time to watch it, despite the fact that it's often described as one of the 10 best mystery movies of all time and we both love watching mysteries...)
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I don't want to spoil your eventual viewing of Laura. Suffice to say that it centers on a police officer investigating the messy death of the title character. He becomes obsessed with her after seeing her portrait. Maybe that's where they would tie Barnabas into the story. The character of Laura is very much talked about and there are some similarities to PT Angelique
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I didn't want to interrupt your analysis on what could have been storyline-wise had Innovation continued but I do have a little bit inside info on their sudden shutdown. (and no, no info on the storylines or my disdain of Felipe Echevarria or why he was selected.)
Years ago I saw a couple of the Innovation DS posters on EBay. They really are quite nice and nobody else bid. When I communicated with the seller, turns out he was a doctor who was an investor in Innovation. He never got any return so he ended up getting a legal judgement against Innovation allowing him to take possession of company assets. The last issue had already shipped out and wasn't worth his time, effort or expense to chase down from all the comic stores to repossess. Campiti had the artwork ( which he was selling a couple years later) so all he was really able to get back were the Innovation posters. I asked how much he wanted for all the DS posters and we agreed on a price ( don't tell ebay lol...) When I received the box, it was a box of Quantum Leap posters. I offered to ship them back but he was like, never mind go ahead and keep them and Ill send you the correct ones ... which he did. Over time I have sold a few and given some posters away as club party prizes but still have plenty stashed away. So even though he was probably responsible for Innovations closure, to me he was a nice guy and I can't blame him. If I had to guess, Campiti had to be aware time was running out and the alligators were nipping at his heels. That would explain all the cutting of corners (especially on the art ...GRR) in the hopes of raising enough cash by getting an issue out to buy some time. Didn't work.
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David Campiti left Innovation in early 1993 and was no longer involved in the day-to-day running of the company from that point on, though he was still involved in some projects (like DS Book 4) on the creative end. If we can judge by the credits in the comics, someone named George Broderick, Jr. took over from Campiti at some point before Book 2, Issue 3 was put together - and that would jibe with the timing of Campiti's departure. Broderick had previously worked at Innovation as Art Director. And as far as the DS comic goes, he and Jim Pierson were credited in all of Book 1 as Consulting Editors - beginning with Book 2 Pierson and only Pierson was listed as Consultant or Consulting Editor - but both were again listed as Consulting Editors for Book 3, Issue 1. However, something I do find interesting is that his biography on his Web site makes no specific mention of running Innovation (or being associated with their DS comic, despite many other comic series' editing credits). But then, if I was in charge of a company when it went bankrupt, whether through my actions or not, I probably wouldn't draw attention to it either.
As for Felipe Echevarria, supposedly they specifically sought him out to do the interior art for Book 3. They claim they thought his style would be perfect for the story. But who knows...
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I don't think I would fixate too much on the timing. Campiti was co founder of Innovation and raised the money to get it off the ground. He left in Aug 93 and the company crashed in Feb 94. Plus, after he left he was selling the original comic art from Innovation thru his Glasshouse Graphics company. So it isn't like he just walked away to move on to other opportunities ...there were a lot of investors and creditors (probably including the artists themselves) who got stiffed and he was probably looking to limit personal liability. As for the choice of artists, the public version is they were giving artists from Brazil opportunities but I think the truer version is economics.
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Not that it's all that important at this point, but I believe Campiti left before August of 1993. ShadowGram's #65 from July 1993 (which mailed on the 17th) reported that Campiti had already been replaced by Ellen Jones as Innovation's liason to SG. And SG #67's report (posted back in reply #143 for Book 3) says -
Here's what SG #67 from January 1994 had to share about Innovation:
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And from inside the issue:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book3quoteimages/SG_67_3_1.jpg)
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- that Campiti hadn't been involved in Innovation's day-to-day business since the spring of 1993. That report also points out that Innovation folded back in December of 1993.
As for hiring artists from Brazil, I suspect you definitely make an excellent point ere there that economics may have been behind that...
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Taking a break from Book 4 and continuing with the MPI tapes for the '91 Series, here's the first page of the listings for the tapes from MPI's 1994 Catalogue:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_94CAT_Page11.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_94CAT_Page11.jpg) for a 1688X2192 version)
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And here's the second page from MPI's 1994 Catalogue:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_94CAT_Page12.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_94CAT_Page12.jpg) for a 1688X2192 version)
And if you're interested, here's the cover (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_94CAT_Cover.jpg) of MPI's 1994 catalogue. When it comes to the '91 Series, it merely features an inset of Cross' Barnabas, but the main photo of Vicki running away from Collinwood has always been one of my favorites.
And if you're interested, here's the back cover (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_94CAT_BackCover.jpg), which features the credits logo from the '91 Series.
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I would take exception to the statement in the editorial that the DS comic had been selling well. Not that I ever saw any sales figures but the book was not selling anywhere near what X-Men, Batman or Justice League International were. I'm not sure that it was even Innovation's more popular titles. There was a lot of anticipation about the premiere of the comic but I think that Innovation's erratic publishing schedule and weird story content put off a lot of people. I was in my local comic book store every week back then. Otherwise I would have missed it.
Bill Mumy had written an excellent Lost in Space serial/continuation that was only half way through when the ax fell. He was unable to get back his completed scripts and the accompanying artwork. Years later, he did publish the entire story but it had to be done from scratch.
This wasn't the first time that comic book companies have solicited art from foreign sources. Sometimes the artists are willing to work for a fraction of their normal fee to break into the USA market. Sometimes it works. This was one of the cases were it didn't.
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We'll probably never know what the sales for Innovation's DS comic series were. Though given that SG #67 reported that other publishers had expressed interest in continuing it, it must have been profitable enough for them to express interest in taking it on. Chances are they wouldn't have been interested in a failing title. And while it's obvious at this point that nothing worked out in the end, future issues of SG will report on how the possibility played out...
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In case you thought I'd already shared all there was to share from MPI's 1994 Catalogue regarding the '91
Series, you would be wrong:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_94CAT_Page15b.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_94CAT_Page15b.jpg) for a 1688X1110 version)
And like SG, it was smart of MPI not to put any release date for the DS Resurrected VHS. Though that won't always be the case because upcoming MPI catalouges definitely published false starts before the tape was actually released.
And regarding the shared photo, it's interesting that with both the original DS and the '91 Series, group photos of the cast smiling seem to be shared less frequently and are, therefore, rarer than serious photos. Who knows just why that is? But I suppose given the nature of the show, people seem to think seriousness lends itself better to the show than lightheartedness. And probably needless to say, that photo would not go on to be the cover of the VHS tape.
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Before I post what I'm going to post in this reply, I have to say that when I was formatting other things from SG #67's first page, I didn't even notice this:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_67_1_2.jpg)
So much for the notion that they didn't share a release date for the DS Ressurected VHS tape. And, of course, SG was only sharing what they were told. And we know only too well how the person who tells them things regarding MPI is often way too overly optimistic when it comes to all things DS-related. But he was WAY OFF that time!! A 1994 release - oh, that's so funny!! [ghost_grin]
But all that does leads up to what I was really coming to post, and that's a photo SG #67 shared from when Jim Fyfe was doing his interview for the tape:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_67_1_4.jpg)
And just like when I shared the photo of Joanna Going and Barbara Blackburn from SG #66 in the topic for Book 3 and how blurry it was because quite often photos from SG don't scan well so I shared screen captures from their segments on the tape, here's a cap of Jim Fyfe from his segment that was done at the same time that photo was taken -
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Jim.jpg)
- though unlike with Joanna and Barbara, a different segment on the tape shares part of an interview that was done on the set of the '91 Series while one of the 1790 eps were being done -
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Jim_1790.jpg)
And one thing that I do find a bit odd is that apparently Juliana McCarthy also did her interview in the same location and possibly even at the same time that Jim Fyfe did his -
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Juliana.jpg)
- but SG never shared a photo of her. And it's not like SG didn't share photos of her because I shared a photo that SG had shared of her from the '92 LA Fest - plus SG had also shared other photos of her, like when she'd appeared in a play in various locations in CA. But perhaps you know who simply hadn't provided SG with a photo of Juliana from when she'd done her interview. Who knows?
(I honestly have no memory of when the Vampires & Ghosts VHS tape was actually released - but when I have time I'm curious enough to look up if it was also delayed...)
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(I honestly have no memory of when the Vampires & Ghosts VHS tape was actually released - but when I have time I'm curious enough to look up if it was also delayed...)
(I checked - it didn't come out in 1994. What a surprise, huh? NOT! And throughout '94 there continued to be reports in SG that it (as well as DS Resurrected) would come out in '94. [ghost_rolleyes])
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And now here's what SG #68 from May 1994 had to say about Innovation (and note that, not that I'm sure anyone doubted the info patrickm shared from that guy who sold him the posters, but this SG report basically confirms all of it):
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_3_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_3_5.jpg)
There were difficulties printing/shipping reliably on time? Gee, none of us would have guessed. [ghost_wink]
And I'll be sharing the pencil sketches in another post...
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Looking back, ( can't believe it's been over 26 years since all this happened ... let alone nearly 28 years since our club got started eesh!) I wish I had probed more with the Dr. about what exactly went down. But didn't think it was my place to be that nosey. My impression was that he regretted investing in the first place and when he sold me the posters, he just wanted to be done with it and get them them out of his house where they were taking up space. Not looking to make Campiti a bad guy here, but there is no way he could have not known the situation. Perhaps he gave up the publisher title and day to day operations ( like writing checks ...lol), he was still involved with the company. He didn't file for bankruptcy which probably wouldn't have changed things but by bailing he definitely was looking to protect himself from liability judgements. We were all sorry that efforts to put out an independent comic ended up not working out. The overall quality of the comics was excellent ( certainly no Gold Keys here.) My disappointment was from after such an outstanding beginning to a real letdown in storyline in book 2 and a BIG letdown in artwork in book 3. As much as I love DS, I just didn't care about the comics anymore. You certainly documented MB all the contradictions and inaccuracies of his press releases and comments to Marcy over time. Looking back, it looks like he had good intentions for DS, just that Innovation was underfunded from the get go and not able to deliver on everything. The posters really do look amazing.
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E. Silas Smith did the posters and his artwork was really excellent. Though I have to say I also liked Jose Pimentel's artwork and I was happy to learn that he was returning to do the interior art for Book 4. And considering that Book 3 hadn't even been completed, it's quite interesting that before Innovation folded Pimentel had already completed the first three pages of Book 4, Issue 1. I'm honestly surprised that none of it seems to have surfaced like Hector Gomez great cover art for that issue has. But perhaps that's because Gomez shared the cover art before Innovation folded, whereas Pimentel completed the first three pages right around the time it folded. Though considering David Campiti has the rights to the art and it wasn't part of Innovations assets, it's very likely that may not be the reason. I know I would love to see it, but alas...
As for Book 2, as I've said, in many ways I like it much more than Book 1. No Barrettstown helps A LOT! But in particular what Maggie Thompson did with Willie is brilliant, and I thought she wrote Barnabas and Julia's relationship very well.
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You're right ...I meant the Barrettstown story. I really zoned out on that. [scratch]
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Here are the pensil sketches mentioned in reply #21:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_1_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_3_4.jpg)
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Here's what SG #68 had to say about DC's proposed movie based on the '91 DS Series:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_1_1.jpg)
Not exactly much progress...
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It's in development .... lol
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I remember hearing through the grapevine (and it's been so long that I don't recall the exact source) that the DS 1990 project got derailed because DC couldn't understand that several cast members couldn't commit to it because they were committed to other projects and weren't going to break their contracts. Somewhere Nancy Hodiak was smiling.
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As promised in SG #67, here's the photo of the AKI models (and the report) from SG #68:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_3_6.jpg)
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When I was formatting some stuff for future posts, I discovered I needed to renumber some things I'd already posted. So, If you find that some things from SG look odd/out of place in this topic, just clear your browser's cache. [ghost_wink] However, if reading this now is during your first time opening this topic today, you shouldn't have any problems...
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When it came to the '92 and '93 Fests I only shared the actual Fest reports in ShadowGram, but with the '94 LA Fest I'm to share the announcement from SG #68 -
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_2_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_3_1.jpg)
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SG #68's report on the Imagine cards and the potential '91 Series set:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_4_1.jpg)
Very interesting that the DS wax box for the original series' set was ranked 12th on the Non-Sport Trading Cards list. I actually did see the cards for sale in a few stores in my area, and I had flashbacks to collecting the red and green sets back in the '60s...
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A few miscellaneous things to share from SG:
From SG #68:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_3_2.jpg)
I vaguely remember that ep. And just for clarity, it was Season 5, Ep #13.
From SG #67:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_67_6_1.jpg)
And a follow-up from SG #68:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_5_2.jpg)
I'd completely forgotten that Sci-Fi skipped Ep #674. Sadly for Donna Friedlander fans, they never got to see her during that first Sci-Fi run, though they did show it when it came up again in July of 1996.
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I meant to share this yesterday in the post above. We'd already shared it back in '08 while we were doing the Watching Project for the '91 Series. But the video format it was shared in then is no longer in use today, plus the forum tags that were used to play it also no longer work. So, I've reformatted it in a video format that will work and also works with the forum's new video tags:
The ad is one that played during the March of 1994 showing of the '91 Series on Sci-Fi. However, this particular version came from a recording I'd made of original series Ep #98 from back on June 6, 1995. Apparently Sci-Fi continued to play some of Jim Fyfe's ads long after March of 1994...
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SG #68's report on DS Resurrected (and DS Vampires & Ghosts):
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_5_1.jpg)
When we get to SG #69 we can all have a good laugh at the release date(s).
And speaking of SG #69, there's only one more thing that I want to share from SG #68 at this time before we start getting into SG #69 - and it's something that I'm pretty sure any fan of the '91 Series will find quite interesting...
But before then, here's an ad that MGM/UA Television put out to promote the '91 Series:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MGM_ad.jpg)
Fans who own the DS Resurrected book may recognize the ad from page 22. And the photo of Cross' Barnabas is actually pretty rare because that ad is the only time I can recall seeing it.
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Somebody just put up on ebay a framed poster of that ad signed by Bob Cobert for $125.
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Interesting that someone had Bob Cobert sign it. But then, maybe he was only one with a connection to the '91 Series at whatever event it was signed.
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something that I'm pretty sure any fan of the '91 Series will find quite interesting...
It's excerpts from an interview Imagi-Movies did with Barbara Steele. What I'm sharing here is Part 2 because she discusses the '91 DS. Originally I didn't share what SG had shared of Part 1 because she didn't. But for those who'd like to read that, Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_67_18_2.jpg).
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_16_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_68_17_1.jpg)
Her comment that the '91 Series should have taken the story in a new direction probably explains why she made sure the script for the proposed movie had new twists and turns. Though, sadly, we'll probably never know what they were...
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Steele is quite an interesting character and certainly brings an intensity to the roles that she played. She didn't take well to the starlet makeover that she got when she first came to Hollywood. The platinum blonde hair that was supposed to glamorize her ended up making her look matronly. She had been cast opposite Elvis Presley in Flaming Star but was replaced early by Barbara Eden. Stories vary as to whether Steele was fired or if she quit.
She does have a somewhat ambiguous relationship with horror movies. It's what she is known for but not her overall favorite. Black Sunday is regarded as a classic but several of her other films, not so much.
Honeymoon With a Stranger is a pretty good little suspense movie with a first rate cast: Steele, Janet Leigh, Eric Braeden, Cesare Danova. I believe that it's on YouTube.
I'm kind of surprised that Steele has never appeared in any Tim Burton movies, since he gave other horror icons like Vincent Price and Christopher Lee some of their final films. Stranger still is that she hasn't popped up on American Horror Story. She could easily have played the parts that Joan Collins did.
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Barbara recalled in a commentary for a different release... I think it's on a video interview she did with David del Valle on the Nightmare Castle DVD... that she found working with Dan on DS extremely frustrating. He insisted on her giving a very strictly defined performance and she wanted to be much more stylish and expressive--which she did finally get to do when she played Natalie (I've commented before that Barbara's version of Natalie comes off more like a florid, flamboyant bordello madam than a French countess to me). And she got to play Natalie like that, evidently, because Dan had stopped directing the shows at that point.
Interesting point about Barbara not working on AHS. I personally do not care for what I have seen of those stories, and it may be that she doesn't either, but who knows. It would indeed be a bit strange if she had not been approached to work on it. I think some people find Barbara "way too much"--she's quite flamboyant in real life. In the documentary from circa 1981 about the Chelsea Hotel (in which I think Barbara may appear briefly--it is on y.t.), there's this scene of somebody talking to her small daughter and saying "you know, she always exaggerates everything, just like Barbara Steele." Funny because Matt Hall used to complain about how his Mom loved to describe everything in inflated, overly colorful terms, back when she was living.
G.
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Here's what SG #69 from July 1994 had to say about Innovation:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_69_3_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_69_3_4.jpg)
As we know, Jose Pimentel wasn't actually artist on the last 4 comics because, as we're only too well aware, Felipe Echevarria did the last comic published...
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And here's what SG #69 from July of 1994 (a year since the first announcement in July of 1993) had to say about DC's proposed movie based on the '91 DS Series:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_69_1_1.jpg)
Zero progress...
I do honestly think that the main reason this never moved forward was because no studio was willing to finance it and DC wasn't willing to finance it on his own. But I also think that Uncle Roger has an excellent point and another major contributing factor could have easily been that the actors had other commitments that they were unwilling to break. At first I was thinking that during the time the film was under consideration only Roy Thinnes and Joanna Going had ongoing commitments because he was playing a major character on One Life to Live and she not only shot Wyatt Earp with Kevin Costner, she did a play in NYC, but they were hardly the only ones with other commitments. Now I recall that Ben Cross did a few made-for-TV movies as well as at least one theatrical - Lysette Anthony did a few theatrical movies - Jim Fyfe did several plays, as did Julianna McCarthy - Michael Cavanaugh did several TV guest roles, as did Ely Pouget - Joseph Gordon-Levitt did roles in several theatrical movies - and Adrian Paul, who may or may not have even had a part in the proposed film, was committed to his series Highlander. And those are just the things I can now think of off of the top of my head. Scheduling a time when the cast would have all been free to do the film would have been a nightmare. And if the studios were aware of that, that could easily explain a good part of their reluctance to take on the project.
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SG #69's updates on the July 1994 LA Fest
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And something I held back from SG #68 so that it could be posted along with the photo of Barbara Steele:
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I'm pretty sure it's from the production of the pilot...
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I finally got back to formatting things from SG #69 and here's an article about the "upcoming" July LA Fest:
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And when it comes to that part about the width, I've often wodered about that myself! [ghost_wink] [ghost_cheesy]
(Though at least hoDS was realistic about it (and Maggie's bite in 1970 because they used the same makeup from the movie).)
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Movie studio tour???
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That's what it says. [ghost_wink] And if you notice the SG report in reply #43 says something similar.
I didn't attend the 1994 LA Fest because until 2005 I'd never attended a West Coast Fest, so I have no idea if a tour of Universal Studios ever actually took place in 1994. But even if no such tour ever materialized, we know that a certain someone may have very well mentioned such a tour to the author of the column because quite often before Fests he has jumped the gun and mentioned things before they were finalized or even a real possibility.
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I dug out my mailing for the '94 LA Fest and the tour is mentioned on it as well:
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This was mailed out to me on April 20th, before it had been announced that some listed guest had dropped out...
(I've also discovered some other things in the Flyers from '92, '93 & '94 and those things will soon be showing up in the appropriate Innovation comics topic...)
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My attendance of California events was sporadic at best. I went to the 1992 event but didn't get to another one until 2000, so I missed out on some stuff.
I do recall the side trip to Disneyland at the 2002 Anaheim convention. TPTB somehow managed to get an excellent discount on day passes. My friends and I opted for California Adventure. It was new and none of us had seen it. It also minimized our chances of running into too many DS whackos.
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[pointing-up] Don't feel bad. I was just going through some other Fest Flyers (because I haven't seen most of them since the year they were mailed and quite often there were rare photos included or interesting deals offered) and I saw that as part of the 2001 NYC Fest (sadly, the last one held at the Marriott, World Trade Center) a trip was offered on Friday to the Statue of Liberty. I attended that Fest and I have no memory whatsoever that trip was offered...
(That Fest was also the first time I got to meet in person several members of the forum. You all know who you are and what fun we had! [ghost_wink] [ghost_grin])
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I passed on the day trip to The Statue Of Liberty, since I had been there on a school trip in the sixth grade. Both teachers missed the ferry back to Manhattan, leaving a handful of chaperones, including my mom, in charge of a bunch of twelve year olds. No cell phones back then but no one knew who to call anyway. So we just continued on to Chinatown. Best school trip.ever!!
Looking back now, I don't think that I would have been able to make the Statue of Liberty trip anyway. Jeff Thompson had decided to do a skit to open the convention. So I checked into my room and was immediately off to rehearsal
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That school trip story sounds like it was a hoot! [ghost_cheesy]
As many times as I've been to NYC, I've never gone to the Statue of Liberty. I've never really done the tourist thing. It was a DS Fest or theater and a restaurant...
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Ads from the mailing for the '94 LA Fest:
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As I was going through the Fest mailings yesterday I came across the following in the mailing for the '91 NYC Fest. At first I wasn't going to share it because it looked like photos that have been seen all over the place at this point. But then I noticed the photo of Willie(H) - I don't believe I've ever seen that photo anywhere else:
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Here's SG #69's update regarding the Imagine trading cards:
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But the real reason why I'm sharing this is because of what isn't said rather than what is. Notice that there's no longer any mention of a potential set of cards based on the '91 Series. (Though I suspect SG #71's update will prove far more interesting...)
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I held this Roy Thinnes item shared in SG #67 -
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- so that I could post it with this -
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- from SG #69. SG #67 indicates the excerpt comes from an article that was published in the 12-21-94 issue of Soap Opera Digest. But considering that SG #67 is dated January of 1994, that is obviously not the case...
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And even though this is mostly unrelated to DS, Forever Knight has many fans among our members so I want to share this excert from an Adrian Paul interview SG #69 shared:
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Even though I watched Paul's Highlander pretty regularly, I don't think I ever even read the interview back in 1994 because until I read it the other day I'm almost certain I had no idea he'd been considered for the Nick Knight TV-movie. Even though Rick Spingfield was certainly popular back in 1989, I think Paul would have been better in the role. And who knows, perhaps the project would have moved forward to the Forever Knight series with Paul. But then, I also love what Geraint Wyn Davies did with the role. And Paul got Highlander. So, they both made out in the end...
One thing that's strange about how SG shared the interview is that even though they listed the source, they didn't list a date. Though I suppose no date is better than a date 11 months in the future! [ghost_grin]
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Here's SG #69's update detailing the latest news on home video releases (along with a NoDS TV listing from England):
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Something that I find very interesting regarding the listing of bonus interviews on The Collector's Series VHS tapes is that we've been led to believe all the interviews on the VHS tapes were put on the subsequent The Beginning Collection DVD release. But I see no listings for the DVDs for interviews with Louis Edmonds(CS #13) or Nancy Barrett(CS #17) or John Karlen(CS #41) or Dennis Patrick(CS #37) (or Clarice Blackburn(CS #25) or Lela Swift(CS #33) or Jonathan Frid(CS #45 & #49) or Sharon Smyth(CS #53)). Perhaps they're on the DVD releases somewhere, though it seems odd they wouldn't be paired on DVD with the eps they were paired with on VHS. Though I'm simply judging all this based on listings for the DVDs - I haven't actually watched the entire series on DVD. But if anyone knows the actual details behind all this, sharing that info would be appreciated. Though one thing that is good when it comes to the DVDs is that there is so much more bonus material on them than was on the VHS releases - but given there's so much more space on DVD, that only makes sense...
SG #68 - DS Vampires & Ghosts: Release date comes in SG #69.
SG #68 - DS Resurrected: Release date will be in SG #69.
SG #69 - Planned for fall release are DS VAMPIRES & GHOSTS highlights and DS RESURRECTED with '91 DS interviews, behind-the-scenes footage, and outtakes.
Hmmm - is the generic mention of "fall" what passed for a "date" in 1994? [ghost_wink] [ghost_rolleyes] But the truth is they wouldn't actually come out at any point in the fall of 1994, so any actual date SG might have listed would have ultimately been wrong...
(And I don't blame SG for any of this ongoing foolishness regarding the release dates of the two tapes because, as I've said before, SG simply reports the info it's given. If the info it's given turns out to be wrong, well, it's the fault of the supplier of the info, and we all know who that is in this case.)
There doesn't seem to be any way to check if an August segment of SCI FI TRADER actually did feature the MPI tapes and other DS merchandise. I didn't have the Sci-Fi Channel in August of 1994 and October's SG #70 makes no mention of such a segment on the show. And while that's not definitive one way or the other as to whether the show did or did not do a segment, once I did get Sci-Fi later that year, I did notice that whenever anything related to DS appeared on one of Sci-Fi's other shows, it was not only mentioned in SG, particulars of the segment were described. But then, if I recall correctly, Marcy Robin also didn't have access to Sci-Fi in August of 1994, so unless someone (and we all know who) provided her with particulars, she wouldn't have been able to share them on her own...
And to say that I'm thrilled to see that the April of '94 issue of Video Watchdog gave NoDS its due would be an understatement! [ghost_wink] [ghost_grin]
And that closes out what I plan to share from SG #69. On to scanning items from SG #70...
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Here's what SG #70 from October of 1994 had reduced news about DC's proposed film(s) based on the '91 DS Series to:
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No more headline of its own - simply thrown in with a bunch of other stuff. But then over a year with no progress will do that. It will be interesting to see if there's even anything about the proposed film(s) in SG #71 because, as we know, sadly, the situation did not change...
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If DC had done another Shadows feature film around that time, I'd have been very surprised if it did not turn out to be yet another re-make of HOUSE OF DS.
In some ways DC seems to have been a very elaborately crenellated version of a one-trick pony. At least when it came to DS.
G.
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If DC had done another Shadows feature film around that time, I'd have been very surprised if it did not turn out to be yet another re-make of HOUSE OF DS.
I have no doubt that if DC had had his way, the film would have been a near total remake of hoDS - and the evidence for that is that's what he wanted the '04 WB pilot to be like. Thankfully John Wells and Mark Verheiden, the two other exec producers on the pilot, wouldn't have any of it. And the good thing about the proposed film is that Barbara Steele supposedly made sure the script had new twists and turns so it wouldn't be a near total hoDS remake. After all, DC had already recreated way too many hoDS scenes shot for shot (as well as from his version of Dracula with Jack Palance) for the third hour of the '91 Series. No doubt Steele knew it would be a mistake to do it again.
In some ways DC seems to have been a very elaborately crenellated version of a one-trick pony. At least when it came to DS.
Sad, but very true! But then even DC openly admitted that he didn't have a fresh idea in his head when it came to DS...
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And this is what the Innovation report has been reduced to in SG #70:
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Like the proposed film, it will also be interesting to see what, if anything, is reported about Innovation in SG #71...
But thankfully SG #70 has some very nice things to share when it comes to other things that we've been following in SG, including '94 LA Fest photos. (And I still have material from what would have been Innovation's Book 4 to share - but I'm holding off on that...)
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I may have mentioned this before but one of the mid 1970's fanzines (Dark Shadows Fan Clan, I think) said that Warren Publications was interested in doing a DS comic book but there was a problem about getting the rights. Warren specialized in black and white horror comics, so it could have been interesting. And Barnabas might have met Vampirella a lot sooner.
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[pointing-up] Interesting. I don't believe I've ever heard that. Thanks for sharing. [ghost_smiley]
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Updates from SG #70 about some DS merchandise:
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Interesting that Abbelare was offering the watches for only $35 when their original prices were $75 - that was less than half price (and as recently as SG #69, $75 was still their prices, so I don't really see how the savings for both was $74 - but maybe Abbelare was using some form of new Math I was unaware of at the time - you know how they're always changing how to figure out Math [ghost_wink]). They must have really wanted to unload their remaining stock...
Though it's no surprise that AKI planned to discontinue the second Ben Cross Barnabas model - they did the same with the first as almost all their model kits seem to be available for a limited time...
And BTW, while interesting, this isn't one of the "very nice things" I alluded to sharing - they'll be coming down the road...
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Here are two item from SG #70 about the '94 LA Fest/'94 Atlantic City Trip:
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And here's the first photo to share from the '94 LA Fest:
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The next item I share from SG #70 will explain why Michael T. Weiss couldn't attend the Fest. But then, you might have figured that out on your own already...
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Here's the Michael T. Weiss section of SG #70:
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And here's an item from the LA Times that SG #70 shared regarding the '94 LA Fest:
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And here's a photo of Jack Petty, who did make-up on the '91 Series:
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Too bad SG #70 didn't share a photo of his wife DeeDee, who won a Hair Styling Emmy for her work on the show. She was also supposed to have attended and SG didn't say that she didn't...
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And here's the first photo to share from the '94 LA Fest:
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? Is that Barbara Steele in the middle with blonde hair?
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[pointing-up] Yup. Though I suspect it was a wig.
There will be a better photo of her from the Fest coming down the road...
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There will be a better photo of her from the Fest coming down the road...
Make that better photos because I was just glancing through upcoming SGs and more photos of her from the '94 LA Fest (and beyond) will be coming up...
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Here's SG #70's home video update:
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Shocking that DS Vampires & Ghosts and DS Resurrected were postponed to 1995 - no one saw that coming, right? Yeah, right! And when it comes to one of them, fans shouldn't have held their breaths for a release at any time during 1995! [ghost_rolleyes]
And I don't know what extra footage is being referred to when it comes to the hoDS/NoDS laser disc. So far as I know, only theatrical and TV trailers for each film were included. Unless SG is considering the TV trailers as extra footage..
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Here's a solo photo of Stefan Gierasch that SG #70 shared from the '94 LA Fest:
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And here's his CURRENT EVENTS - NEW DS PERSONNEL section:
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Seems like he may have been friends with Danny DeVito, given that his recent credits here have him appearing in two of DeVito's projects. Or maybe DeVito just liked his work. Or perhaps it was a complete coincidence. But regardless of which it is, Gierasch was a very busy character actor, basically on a par with Thayer David, who seemed to appear in at least every other film and TV show after his stint on DS. And another thing they had in common was that they sort of played the same DS character, with David as Prof. Stokes and Gierasch as Prof. Woodard (as opposed to SG's erroneous identification of his character as "Dr. Woodard"), who was an amalgam of Stokes and Dr. Woodard...
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I first remember seeing him on Another World, back in the late 1970's. He played Mr. Sykes, "a wire man", who was hired by Iris Carrington to record someone's private conversations for reasons that I've long forgotten. He wasn't on the show very long. Just long enough to flirt with Iris Carrington's housekeeper, Mrs. Goddard
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And here's a solo photo of Julianna McCarthy that SG #70 shared from the '94 LA Fest:
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And here's her CURRENT EVENTS - NEW DS PERSONNEL section:
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And the only reason I'm sharing that is because I was surprised so many of her roles have been associated with crazed killers. At least neither of her DS roles are among them. [ghost_wink]
And incidentally, I checked her IMDb credits and there's no listing for 3 Rivers. Most likely that's because the title was changed, and the most likely candidates would seem to be When the Bough Breaks or A Bucket of Blood...
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Something that I find very interesting regarding the listing of bonus interviews on The Collector's Series VHS tapes is that we've been led to believe all the interviews on the VHS tapes were put on the subsequent The Beginning Collection DVD release. But I see no listings for the DVDs for interviews with Louis Edmonds(CS #13) or Nancy Barrett(CS #17) or John Karlen(CS #41) or Dennis Patrick(CS #37) (or Clarice Blackburn(CS #25) or Lela Swift(CS #33) or Jonathan Frid(CS #45 & #49) or Sharon Smyth(CS #53)). Perhaps they're on the DVD releases somewhere, though it seems odd they wouldn't be paired on DVD with the eps they were paired with on VHS. Though I'm simply judging all this based on listings for the DVDs - I haven't actually watched the entire series on DVD.
SG #70 from October of 1994 shared what was then the latest newsletter (Summer/Fall 1994) from MPI's DS Video Club. Interestingly enough, it managed to muddy the waters even more so far as who appeared in bonus interviews when it came to The Collector's Series VHS tapes, as this portion of the newsletter shows:
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Rather than what all the MPI catalogues that listed them say, that Lela Swift is the bonus interview on Collector's Series #33, the above says Louis Edmonds is the interview on that tape. But considering all those MPI catalogues came out not only after, but with some, long after that newsletter, I'm going to chalk up the discrepancy to it being a misprint.
But when it comes to where did those The Collector's Series interviews go when it came to The Beginnings DVD releases, I think I've solved most of the issue because it seems that most didn't appear on The Beginnings DVDs at all because they had already appeared on The Collection DVD releases and, therefore, not always with eps they were paired with on VHS. For example, I checked The Collector's Series #17 tape, which is one of the few I still have, and Nancy Barrett's interview on that tape, which covers Eps #81-85, appears on The Collection #2, Disc #2, which covers Eps #261-270.
Shocking that DS Vampires & Ghosts and DS Resurrected were postponed to 1995 - no one saw that coming, right?
Also interestingly enough, the newsletter also mentions how those tapes were postponed.
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And I don't know what extra footage is being referred to when it comes to the hoDS/NoDS laser disc. So far as I know, only theatrical and TV trailers for each film were included. Unless SG is considering the TV trailers as extra footage..
Yeah, I was kind of puzzled by that "extra footage" note. I guess technically the trailers (well, the NODS trailer, at least) count as having extra footage, since there's a snippet of a deleted scene.
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[pointing-up] You know, I didn't think of it that way. Though if that is what was meant, it probably should have been made clearer. If someone bought the laserdisc expecting to get extra footage, like, say, the Hanging David scene from hoDS, and all they got were the snippets of deleted scenes in the NoDS trailers, I suspect they would have been sorely disappointed. Though those of us who love NoDS love every one of those snippets, no matter how short. But then, speaking for myself, I've never seen them as "extra footage." [nodno] I mean, nowhere are snippets in the trailer on the NoDS DVD described as "extra footage" - and it's a good thing that they're not. Possibly referring to the snippets that way in 1994, before the deleted NoDS footage had been recovered, would have been one thing - but I suspect that referring to the snippets that way in 2012, when Warner Bros. refused to allow any of the recovered footage to be included in any way on the DVD, would have prompted more than a few NoDS fans to storm Warner Bros. with firebrands and with threats to burn the place down!! [ghost_wink] Or maybe they would have staged a mock-hanging in effigy of the Warner Bros. exec responsible for not allowing the footage to be used - that seems more appropriate!! [ghost_grin]
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Here's a solo photo of Barbara Steele that SG #70 shared from the '94 LA Fest:
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And here's her CURRENT EVENTS - NEW DS PERSONNEL section:
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I checked IMDb and it doesn't seem as if Deep Up There ever came out in the US. Like Julianna McCarthy's movie, it may have had a name change, but Barbara has no listings on IMDb between 1994 and 1999, so if it did come out with a name change, it wasn't in 1995. Although, as Uncle Roger alluded to the other day with regard to Michael Stroka, given that IMDb doesn't always list every credit an actor may have, perhaps it did come out but it's never been added to her credits...
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I know the DS VAMPIRES & GHOSTS VHS/DVD has nothing to do with the '91 Series or the Innovation comics, however, it has popped up in this topic, so what I'm about to post isn't entirely OT.
When I read this portion of MPI's DS Video Club newsletter about the upcoming release of the VHS tape -
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- and I saw that it said "other surprises are planned" I wondered what they may have been because I didn't buy the VHS or the DVD. However, even though I'd never watched it, it is included in the boxed set. So I pulled out the disc it's on and watched it this morning.
Well, as anyone who has already watched it knows, the only things that are a part of that compilation are clips from the show - there are no surprises whatsoever. But then, does it come as a shock to anyone that the person behind the MPI promotions would hype/hint at something that never actually pans out? No? I didn't think so. As we should all know by now, the best thing to do is take all hype/hints with several tablespoons, if not boxes, of salt. [ghost_rolleyes]
AND BTW, this is the last item I'll be sharing from SG #70. And we'll be taking a short break from SGs before I get to SG #71 because it's from February of 1995. So, I'm going to be sharing some stuff from MPI's 1995 DS Catalogue first...
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[pointing-up] I just realized - unless she went by very fast while I blinked, vampire Megan isn't even a part of the compilation - and unless they went by when I blinked, the ghosts of Peter Bradford and Dr. Woodard are also not a part of it... (Though I don't think many missed Peter Bradford. [ghost_nowink])
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MB, maybe the "other surprises" meant these two things: (1) not all characters listed would appear, and (2) there would also be nothing new offered! [ghost_grin]
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[pointing-up] You might be onto something there! [ghost_wink] [ghost_cheesy]
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Continuing with the MPI tapes for the '91 Series, here's the first page of the listings for the tapes from MPI's 1995 Catalogue:
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(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_95CAT_Page12.jpg) for a 1688X2192 version)
A bit of trivia for this page is that the group photo of Roger, Liz, Dr. Fisher, Mrs. Johnson and Julia is from a deleted scene that was shot for Hour 5 (Ep #4) of the '91 Series. There's also a different photo from the same scene on page 46 of PomPress' Dark Shadows Resurrected book.
And a bit of trivia for Hour 5 (Ep 4) is that it contains material that was actually shot for other eps. The scene between Roger and Liz was actually shot for Hour 3 (Ep 2). And the sequence with Vicki, David and Roger was actually shot for the pilot. More than likely the inclusion of that material is why that group scene was cut, most likely for time. Interestingly, though, Wayne Tippit's name appears in the credits even though that scene and possibly any others he might have done got cut. But the show was most probably contractually obligated to include his name in the credits even though he didn't appear.
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And here's the second page from MPI's 1995 Catalogue:
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And as a preview of coming attractions, just wait until I share what MPI's 1995 Catalogue has to say about the VAMPIRES & GHOSTS release. If you thought what was written about it in MPI's Summer/Fall DS Video Club newsletter was misleading, you haven't seen the half of it yet! [ghost_nowink] [ghost_wacko]
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And here's what MPI's 1995 Catalogue had to say about VAMPIRES & GHOSTS:
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Um, "never-before-seen bonus interview footage with Lara Parker"? Uh no - not only isn't there never-before-seen bonus interview footage with Lara Parker, there isn't even old interview footage of her! In fact, there isn't even new or old interview footage with anyone! As I said, the compilation is completely comprised of clips from the show. Nothing new whatsoever. If "never-before-seen bonus interview footage with Lara Parker" was planned (because why else would it have been promoted?), who knows what the hell happened to it?! But the sad thing is none of us should be surprised that something promised was never delivered. Nor should we be surprised that foolishly things went so far as to promote it in the catalogue but then never deliver it...
And will this actually come out November of 1995? Only time will tell...
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And here's what MPI's 1995 Catalogue had to say about DS RESURRECTED:
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And once again MPI promotes it with the smiling cast photo.
Would this actually come out August of 1995? Fans shouldn't have counted on it. Though at least with this promotion, what was promised was delivered, eventually...
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It will be interesting to see if there's even anything about the proposed film(s) in SG #71
There is. Here's what SG #71 from February of 1995 had to say:
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Pretty much the same as what was said in SG #70. And considering that by this point it had been more than a year and a half with no movement whatsoever, I'm actually quite surprised that SG still brought up the proposed film(s) at all. Though perhaps SG was still holding onto hope. But if so, will that hope last into SG #72? I suppose we'll see...
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Here's SG #69's update regarding the Imagine trading cards:
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But the real reason why I'm sharing this is because of what isn't said rather than what is. Notice that there's no longer any mention of a potential set of cards based on the '91 Series. (Though I suspect SG #71's update will prove far more interesting...)
I didn't bother sharing anything about IMAGINE, INC. when it came to what was in SG #70 because it was really no different from what was in SG #69. But SG #71 is quite different:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_1_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_1_2.jpg)
Now, where have we heard that story before? Oh, I know:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_4_2a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_4_2b.jpg)
Seems like during this period producing DS merchandise might have come with a curse because there was almost a 50/50 chance your company would go out of business. [ghost_wink] Though seriously, DS merchandise wasn't really responsible for companies ceasing operations, but apparently it didn't offset whatever problems they had.
Now we definitely knew that IMAGINE, INC wouldn't be producing a set of cards based on the '91 Series. Nor was it seemingly at all likely that the '91 comics would continue elsewhere...
Though with all this bad news, everything wasn't bleak in SG #71 regarding DS merchandise because they also announced that it was a firm go that MPI would be reproducing a replica of Josette's Music Box from the original DS...
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SG #71's video update:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_5_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_6_1.jpg)
Again a mention of a Lara Parker interview on VAMPIRES & GHOSTS. Once the VHS is actually released, it will be fascinating to see if the fact that the interview is not on it gets addressed or if it will be ignored like it was never promoted...
Neither it nor DS RESURRECTED will be released during the months indicated. But I'm sure you've already suspected that. Though there will be a surprise when it comes to one of them...
And it's interesting that the FOX network has (or at least had) an affiliate in Mexico. One would think, being a US network, it wouldn't have affiliates outside of the US. But apparently FOX does (or did). And it's interesting that it aired NoDS with Spanish subtitles. Though it's too bad it wasn't dubbed in Spanish because that could have been a hoot because quite often it's a case that the Spanish voice actors can really go over the top!
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SG #71's Sci-Fi update:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_6_2.jpg)
This report is greatly edited because something like 80% of it was about how to get and which satellite services offered DS if your cable company didn't. Thankfully, by this point I actually did have Sci-Fi. In fact, my cable company finally provided access to it in my area in February of 1995, pretty much at the tail end of DS' first run on Sci-Fi. (The first two eps I was able to record/see were Ep #1192 (Quentin and Daphne return to RT when the room changes back from PT - and Joanna shows Samantha what she will become) and Ep #1193 (Samantha falls from Widows' Hill to her death - and Judard eavesdrops as Quentin and Daphne promise to marry) - given that I hadn't seen those eps, and particularly I hadn't really seen Virginia Vestoff's Samantha, since they originally aired a little more than 24 years earlier, it was a thrill to see them again.)
And DS did indeed wrap up it's first run on March 16th with Eps #1244 & #1245, and started it's second run on March 17th with Ep #1 (giving something extra to celebrate on St. Patrick's Day [beer]).
I didn't watch when the '91 Series ran April-May, so I don't know if it ran without preemptions. Though promos for it ran every day during the original DS, so I could check. But even though I've kept the VHS tapes I used to record original DS (because there are all sorts of PomPress/Fest ads on them) watching VHS tapes is a hassle. (One of these days I should make a DVD of all the ads and then toss the tapes.) Besides, I'm pretty sure SG #72 will get into that.
And I'm also pretty sure SG was heavily promoted on Sci-Fi. It would probably be a hoot to see one of those ads again, so who knows, some day I may actually check out the tapes after all...
And imagine, something published inaccurate info related to DS. We never see that. Nope. Never. [ghost_rolleyes]
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SG #71's update for other DS merchandise:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_4_2a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_4_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_4_4.jpg)
Interesting that AKI would continue to have the Cross figure through the fall when AKI announced in SG #70 that it would be "discontinued in early 1995."
It's very interesting that Abbelaire was no longer making fans buy the Angelique watch in order to also get the Barnabas watch at a discount. Or at least that isn't mentioned. And apparently so much for the reduced price of $35 being "a spectacular, 1-time-only savings" for the holidays.
And SG continued to hawk David Campiti's Glass House Graphics. But then his name is listed in the Contributors section of SG #71, so that may very well have had something to do with it, depending on just how much he was contributing. [ghost_wink]
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Some of the things SG #71 shared regarding mentions of DS on TV/in film and/or in print, including associating DS to the then upcoming film version of Interview with the Vampire:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_3_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_3_1b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_4_1a.jpg)
SG #71 also made mention of this:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_4_1b.jpg)
I'm presuming it's in reference to the storyline in which Dr. Marlena Evans was possessed. The storyline was written by then head writer James E. Reilly. He may have also written a storyline in which two characters were supposedly aliens. I never watched DoOL when either aired, so I could easily be wrong about that latter storyline being one of Reilly's, but an interesting connection to DS with the aliens storyline is that one of the "aliens" was played by Alexis Thorpe, who played Willie's ill-fated girlfriend Kelly Greer in the '04 DS pilot...
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This Ron Sproat article that appeared in SG #71 is worth sharing (though it would have been nice if they'd spelled his name correctly - but no doubt the dreaded DS curse of errors strikes again!):
Part 1:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_21_1.jpg)
Part 2:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_21_2.jpg)
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I watched Dallas pretty regularly back then but I couldn't place the name Deborah Tranelli. She had a relatively small, recurring role as Phyllis, Bobby Ewing's secretary.
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Oh OK - I had no idea who she played either, and I was too busy to look her up. Thanks for looking her up and sharing the info. [ghost_smiley]
Funny, I remember the name Phyllis, but I can't even picture what she looked like. I guess she didn't make all that much of an impression. But then, given how Dallas had so many larger than life characters, I suppose it's not surprising that a character who was probably as normal as they come would get lost. [ghost_wink]
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Another article that appeared in SG #71 that's worth sharing:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_21_3.jpg)
I've told this story before, but I reconnected to DS in a somewhat similar way to the author. It was almost a decade before DS first ran on Sci-Fi, and it wasn't while channel surfing, but it was in 1985 while casually browsing the TV Guide one day when I was on vacation from work and noticing that DS was actually airing on an independent station in my area. I couldn't believe it. I'd already missed that day's ep because it had aired at 11am, but the next day I was firmly in from of my TV to see if it really was true that DS was back on (I was afraid to accept it until I saw it with my own eyes [hall2_grin]). But sure enough at 11am the familiar music and voiceover thrilled my senses. And as I watched, I was so excited to see that it was an ep that I'd never seen during the original run because I didn't start watching DS until September of 1967. It was May 17, 1967's Ep #233, the one in which there's a violent thunderstorm at Collinwood as Barnabas tells Vicki and Carolyn the story of Josette's death on Widows' Hill. But I was also sad because my vacation was going to be ending before the next ep would air and at the time I didn't own a VCR, so who knew how long it was going to be before I could catch another ep. (But when I did I was beyond excited to realize it was a milestone ep: August 4, 1967's Ep #290 in which Julia discovers Barnabas in his coffin and then Barnabas goes to Julia's room to kill her only to discover she's been waiting for him. What luck was that?! [hall2_wink]) But I would catch an ep whenever I could - and within several months of doing that I was definitely hooked and determined to watch regularly - and the first ep I recorded on my new VCR was October 12, 1967's Ep #339, the one in which Dr. Woodard steals Julia's notebook. And I've been involved with DS regularly ever since.
I definitely take exception to the author saying DS had "atrocious production values" - did they watch ANY of the other soaps that were on at the time? Now, too many of those had atrocious production values (I'm pointing at you in particular, General Hospital!!). If in the author's opinion DS had atrocious production values, the mind boggles as to how he/she would have described the production values of other soaps of the time. In truth, DS often had production values that were on the cutting edge of video production. But as we know, it's so much more fun for people to make fun of DS than to give it its due. [hall2_rolleyes]
And the other day after I'd put in The Beginning's Collection 6, Disc 4 and gotten a capture from Ep #206 for the Everyone In Collinsport's Favorite Word Slideshow, for the first time I checked out several of the extras on that disc. One that I watched had info that I thought was very interesting, and it's something that this article reminds me that I wanted to post about. We constantly read how teens were a major audience for DS, so much so that at times one would think teens comprised the majority of the show's audience (and sometimes writers even use that to demean DS as something of a "less than" show because of it). However, the Dark Shadows Syndication Promo Reel includes this ratings info:
DAILY 5 SEASON
NATIONAL AVERAGES
WOMEN 18-34 1,240,000
WOMEN 18-49 1,970,000
TOTAL WOMEN 2,630,000
TEENS 970,000
Do those stats make it seem like teens were the show's majority audience? A large audience, certainly - but the majority? But then, just how many of the people who've written about DS have actually verified everything they've written? Well, given that too many of their errors could have been easily disproved with even a little actual research, we know only too well that not many writers have bothered to check their facts...
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I think that DS was the first soap to done any extensive filming outside the studio. Other soaps did it on very rare occasions and it usually looked cheesy.
I also think that it was one of the first, if not the very first, to use orchestrated music, instead of the pipe organ music that was a staple on radio. Carol Burnett spoofed this mercifully in As The Stomach Turns. The organ music was still being used in the early 1970's.
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[pointing-up] I think you're right about both location shooting and orchestrated music.
(And I'm sure anyone who watched soaps thought As The Stomach Turns was hysterically funny. It was a perfect parody of many soaps of the time. [hall2_grin] And considering that Carol Burnett was a soap fan herself, she definitely did it with love, as opposed to ridicule...)
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DAILY 5 SEASON
NATIONAL AVERAGES
WOMEN 18-34 1,240,000
WOMEN 18-49 1,970,000
TOTAL WOMEN 2,630,000
TEENS 970,000
If I'm interpreting this right and there isn't a typo, this could mean:
WOMEN 18-34 1,240,000
WOMEN 35-49 730,000
WOMEN 50+ 660,000
TEENS 970,000
Which would make teens (undifferentiated by sex) as the 2nd largest demographic.
HOWEVER... What about men? If we're going to take that one article's word that there were 20,000,000 viewers, we could assume that there were 16,400,000 adult male viewers! [hall2_grin]
Of course, they also left out pre-teens, who were certainly a major group (and probably the biggest consumers of the teenage magazines, among the DS viewership?). Let's say adult men were the same number as women 50+. So that would make pre-teens be 15,740,000. Based on how popular DS was in my grade school, I could buy that! [hall2_grin]
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Interestingly, so far as demos go, most things haven't changed all that much since DS was on because the most desired demographic is still 18-49 year old women - and women viewers are still far more desired than men because many advertisers still think that women make the most decisions when it comes to what products to buy (and that probably is still true to a major extent).
Regardless of sex, advertisers don't really desire 50+ viewers because the thinking is they're too set in their ways to try new things. Though while that may be true of some, it's certainly not true of all. Mostly everyone I know is 50+ and they're more than willing to try new things. It's certainly true of me. But then, no one can say advertisers' thinking always syncs with reality. However, it still remains true that any show for which 50+ viewers comprise the largest portion of its audience is very much in danger of being canceled. It happens time and time again no matter how many millions of 50+ viewers they are for the show. [ghost_rolleyes]
On the other hand, the thinking when it comes to teens has changed drastically since DS was on. Advertisers now realize that if they can lure teens to buy their product, they may just have a customer for life - or at least the life of a product.
One thing, though, is that Nielsen ratings represent only a percentage of viewership. The numbers that are featured in the Syndication Promo Reel are the raw numbers that Nielsen compiled and they represent just a fraction of the audience watching. Nielsen would then take that raw data and, using a series of equations that they developed, would then extrapolate how many viewers the raw data indicated were actually watching. The 20 million figure for viewership of DS was an extrapolated number from the raw data. Nielsen worked very hard to make those extrapolated numbers as accurate as possible (though they've had tons of criticism through the years). But the point I'm making is that someone can't actually take the raw data numbers and use them with any extrapolated numbers. [ghost_nowink] One has to use raw data with raw data and extrapolated numbers with extrapolated numbers when making demographic comparisons. [ghost_smiley]
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Here's the CURRENT EVENTS - NEW DS PERSONNEL section from SG #71 for MTW:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_16_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_16_2.jpg)
Jeffrey was actually released in August of 1995. Something tells me future SGs will probably have a lot of info on that once we reach them...
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Here are several pieces of the CURRENT EVENTS - NEW DS PERSONNEL section from SG #71 for Barbara Steele:
A photo from a public appearance (maddeningly, the SG doesn't indicate where):
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_17_1b.jpg)
Her write-up:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_17_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_17_2a.jpg)
And another photo from the '94 LA Fest:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_17_2b.jpg)
And that's the final thing that I'll be sharing from SG #71. Next up, SG #72...
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Here's what SG #71 from February of 1995 had to say:
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_1_1b.jpg)
Pretty much the same as what was said in SG #70. And considering that by this point it had been more than a year and a half with no movement whatsoever, I'm actually quite surprised that SG still brought up the proposed film(s) at all. Though perhaps SG was still holding onto hope. But if so, will that hope last into SG #72? I suppose we'll see...
Apparently it did last:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_1_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_1_1b.jpg)
With the exception of saying there are no "definite" developments, SG #72's update from May of 1995 is pretty much exactly the same as was reported in SG #71 - and even #70. And if someone wanted to be really hopeful, they might have seized on the use of "definite" as a hint that maybe there were possible developments but it was too early to say. But that would have been fairly fruitless because SG #70 said there were no "significant" developments, and obviously, in the long run, anyway, saying "significant" wasn't code for anything. And this would be a whole different situation if DC had pitched his ideas to a studio or production company and they had made a deal for him to write a script or even to make the film, script unseen. In that sort of situation even after nearly two years, the project could have remained in development with the hope of it coming out of "development hell (which is often how it's described in the industry) eventually and moving into production. After all, the Depp/DS film was in development for almost four years before it went into production, and being in development for even longer isn't out of the ordinary in the film industry. But in the case of this film, DC wrote what is known in the industry as a "spec script," meaning DC didn't have any sort of deal with any studio or production company to write a script - he simply wrote it on his own and then tried shopping it around with the hope that some entity would make a deal. But in almost two years that still hadn't happened. And it's certainly hard to let go of hope when you badly want something to happen. But at this point, the longer time passed with no developments, the less likely there were ever going to be any developments. which, as we know, turned out to be the case. So, will SG #73 come to that conclusion? Again, I suppose we'll see...
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SG #72's Sci-Fi report from May of 1995:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_5_4.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_6_1.jpg)
The first Barnabas eps actually began in August of 1995. Ep #210 ran for a second time on Sci-Fi as the first ep on August 24th.
It was definitely nice when on May 5th DS went back to 2 eps on Fridays. Though, as we can remember only too well, Sci-Fi would have more periods of 1 ep Fridays throughout DS' various runs on the channel. [hall2_angry]
But given that SG got the above date correct, it's very odd that it got the dates wrong when it came to the mix-up of Eps #45 & 49. Rather than Ep #45, Ep #49 was wrongly aired on April 27th - and Ep #49 aired again in its correct spot on May 2nd. [hall2_undecided]
It's very interesting that when Sci-Fi ran CLIFFHANGER PLAYHOUSE they included interviews with Michael T. Weiss and M. M. Shelly Moore. Moore is particularly interesting because when it comes to past DS related interviews, Sci-Fi always showed material that was taken from the MPI VHS tapes, but not only wasn't the DS Resurrected VHS out yet, she doesn't even appear on it. MTW, on the other hand, has several interview segments on that tape.
And in case you don't remember, or maybe even never knew, M. M. Shelly Moore was one of the Executive Story Editors on the '91 Series as well as the co-writer for Eps #8, 10 & 12.
Are any of us surprised that the SG promotion with Sci-Fi was delayed? No? I didn't think so...
SG also got the date right for when Ep #1219 ran on Sci-Fi, February 24th, which makes the errors when it comes to Ep #45 & 49 all the odder...
The USA Network was considered "trashy"? I doubt Ben Cross would have been happy to see it described that way because he did several made-for-TV movies for them...
And it's quite interesting how Sci-Fi really started to expand to more sections of the country in 1995...
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SG #72's merchandise report:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_3_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_4_1.jpg)
First it was the Ben Cross Barnabas model kit would only be available until "early 1995" - then it was "through the fall" - now a specific date of "until June 30." Will it still be available when SG #73 comes out in August of 1995? Probably not because it seems like once AKI announces a specific date, they stick to it. But who knows?
On the other hand, Abbelaire was still continuing their watches deal, which would supposedly only last through the '94 holidays. And still no sign of having to buy both watches in order to get the discount.
Trading cards based in the '91 DS were never released. Imagine only released a set for the original DS. And it's very interesting that back in February SG #71 reported that the supply of that set of cards was "depleted" but suddenly they were available through the Fest. And for $17.95, which is $2 cheaper than their original price. Though at least fans who'd paid the $19.95 for the cards probably weren't too upset they they'd paid $2 more. (Somehow I suspect the same might not be able to be said of the fans who paid $77.95 before the watches were reduced to $35.)
And SG still continued to hawk David Campiti's Glass House Graphics. But then his name is also listed in the Contributors section of SG #72, so...
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Glass House Graphics is still in business today. And David Campiti is indeed quite a part of it. The website links to his blog, which has the intriguing title of Nibbled To Death By Ducks.
I read a bit of him. He seems quite full of himself.
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SG #71 also made mention of this:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_71_4_1b.jpg)
I'm presuming it's in reference to the storyline in which Dr. Marlena Evans was possessed.
The following section from SG #72 really has nothing to do with the '91 Series, but I do find it quite interesting how much DS gets associated with that DoOL storyline. Though I suppose it was inevitable.
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_3_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_3_1b.jpg)
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A bit of an aside here. I know Richard Howell a bit. He's a comic book artist/writer who usually manages to work a DS reference or two into each story. He also writes an ongoing comic called Deadbeats, which is a vampire saga set in New England. There are characters drawn to resemble Barbara Steele and Joanna Going. And there have been characters named Ginny Vestoff, Kathryn Kringstad, Nicky Blair, Denny Nickerson and Lara Lamar, to name a few. Plus lots of Easter Eggs.
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[pointing-up] Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. [hall2_smiley]
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After SG #71 had just a small mention of upcoming books from PomPress, SG #72 had a major section about things (and considering the '91 Series is represented) I've decided to share it:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_4_2a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_4_2b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_5_1.jpg)
And whether I sent PomPress a SASE after the announcement in Sg #71 or the piece in SG #72, I don't honestly recall. But I did send one. So, I'll have more to share about these deals and otherwise after I get the chance to scan it all...
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Here's the first page of the letter Pompress sent out in June of 1995:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Letter1a.jpg)
And here's the second page:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Letter1b.jpg)
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And as a bonus gift for mailing in a SASE, PomPress threw in this bookmark:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Letter1c.jpg)
The funny thing is I'd completely forgotten about the bookmark until I dug out the letter and looked inside. My bookmark has stayed in the envelope for more than 25 years...
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Here's the first page of the version of the letter that came with your Pompress order (or at least it came with mine):
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Letter2a.jpg)
And here's the second page:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Letter2b.jpg)
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And as you may have noted, the first version of the letter claimed that everyone who pre-ordered would receive a "FREE, NEVER BEFORE SEEN" color photograph. However, uh, that wasn't quite the case - but then it rarely is, is it? What came was this:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Letter2c.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Letter2c.jpg) for a 788X1190 version)
And if one wants to split hairs, yes, the color version may have never been seen, but a B&W version was right on the front page of SG #72. And that issue came out in May, whereas the shipping date for the books was August. So...
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Most of the books I ordered through this deal are in pristine condition because I hardly touch therm. But most definitely the same can't be said of my copy of the Program Guide:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/PG.jpg)
When I watched DS all the way through back in the late-'90s, I checked the Program Guide for each ep to correct the numerous errors in it (the errors that were supposedly all fixed but weren't (::)) for the version in the DS Memories book). And extremely often I refer to it while doing things for the forum. The inside isn't bad. But that cover!! [yikes]
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On the other hand, something that I received in my package that I've barely ever touched is this:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/DSC-FC.jpg)(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/DSC-BC.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/DSC-IN.jpg)
Not only have I barely ever touched it, I've never even taken one of the cassettes out of the case to listen to it. The only reason I own the Audio book is because it was included in the package I'd purchased. And even if I wanted to listen to it nowadays I wouldn't be able to because I don't own a cassette player anymore. Although, now that I think about it, it could have been fun to hear whichever star it might have been read any errors there might be in the book. It's been so long since I've even looked at the text of the DS Companion that I don't even remember what any errors might be. But there must be at least one somewhere along the way because, quite sadly, there's no such thing as a PomPress book that's completely error free...
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[pointing-up] I remember at least one thing that's not correct in the DS Companion and it's a biggie because it totally destroys the point she was trying to make: In Lara Parker's "Out of Angelique's Shadow" chapter she mistakenly believes that as Angelique she said to Nicholas, "From warlock to lacky... my, how the mighty are fallen!" when in reality she said to Sky Rumson, "From tycoon to lackey... my, how the mighty are fallen!" Considering that fact, it completely invalidates the point she was trying to make about Nicholas and Angelique's relationship. And I honestly have no idea how that misquote got past the editing process - well, unless the editor knew nothing about the big moments in Angelique's various and readily available storylines, in which case they shouldn't have been editing that chapter. And if Lara Parker narrates that chapter on the Audio book, which is most likely the case, and it remained exactly as written, it's completely on Jim Pierson because he produced the Audio book and of all people he should have caught the error. If the error made it to the Audio book, quite unfortunately and not at all anything resembling fun, Lara Parker would have been made to look doubly foolish because, as I've alluded to, unlike the pre-Barn eps and the last year of the show, in 1990 it would have been quite easy to check Leviathans Ep #974 because it and all of Leviathans had been readily available since the mid-'80s. There really is no excuse for the error because it would have been so easy to fact check... (Not to mention the copy editor should have caught the misspelling of lackey in the book. [sad3])
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SG #72's video report:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_5_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_5_3.jpg)
Would either DS RESURRECTED or DS VAMPIRES & GHOSTS debut at August's '95 NYC 30th Anniversary Fest? Well, we know for sure one wouldn't. As for the other, that would remain to be seen...
I don't know if I was lucky, but I never had any problem finding and buying any of MPI's DS compilation tapes. In addition to a Suncoast video store (whose stock almost always included multiple copies of all the compilations, the '91 Series, at least one copy of all the regular and Collectors tapes, and even copies of the 4 soundtrack CDs), my local Kmart stocked the compilations and often had sales on them. (Nowadays, both those stores are long out of business. [sad7])
And coming up the next time I post in this topic will be something I suspect not many of his fans would expect to see...
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The following has nothing to do with the '91 Series - but considering he has many fans among the members of the forum, I figured I'd share it all anyway. Enjoy:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_9_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_72_9_2.jpg)
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I'm sharing this from May 1995's SG #72 for two reasons. This was the first we learned of his passing - and because Damion is so infamous in fandom, well, his leisure suit is. [lghy]
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I wonder when he was a regular on Merv Griffin's show. I don't remember ever seeing him on there or any of the other talk shows mentioned. But perhaps he was on before he did DS. And the fact that Steve Allen is listed could point to that...
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I do remember watching him as Brian Blake on Another World after he appeared on DS. Blake was an unscrupulous attorney involved with resident vixen Rachel Davis, then played by Robin Strasser.
He was responsible for one of my all time favorite bloopers. I may be off on the exact wording but it went somewhat like this: Steve is the mother of Rachel's baby. Bad enough, right? Then he corrected it by saying that Rachel is the father of Steve's baby.
He was written off the show shortly after that.
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'91 DS actor info from SG #72:
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What a hoot that Jim and Julianna got to work together again.
Apparently THE FRIGHTENERS opened in July of 1996.
And something that's funny is that I faithfully watched STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE 9 when it was originally on, yet I have no memory of Juliana being on it. There's always the chance that I didn't recognize her in all her Cardassian make up - but I would think I would have recognized her voice - and I certainly would have recognized her name in the credits, well, unless I was distracted when her name went by. However, I looked up her credits on IMDb and she is indeed listed for DS9, and not for just 1 ep but 3 - one in 1995 and two in 1999 - in which she played the same character. I'm definitely going to have to track those eps down on CBS All Access...
And then there's:
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I've shared this because of the vampire angle.
I never watched THE WATCHER. I would have watched if I'd seen Ely Pouget's name in the TV Guide, but I'm guessing either I didn't see it or it wasn't listed.
There seems to be some question as to how many eps were made or aired. In the cast list on IMDb they indicate only 9 eps. But in the eps section IMDb lists 11 eps and has aired dates for all (Ely's ep was entitled The Human Condition and was the 8th ep of the series). However, the link that leads to the eps section indicates 12 eps. Who knows?
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And something that's funny is that I faithfully watched STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE 9 when it was originally on, yet I have no memory of Juliana being on it. ... I'm definitely going to have to track those eps down on CBS All Access...
I did indeed do that and here's a screen cap of her character, Mila:
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She's seen on a video communication device.)
Not only don't I remember her character, I didn't remember anything about this first ep. But that's probably not as unusual as it might sound because recently I've been revisiting Star Trek: Voyager, I'm in the middle of the 3rd season, and with the exception of one ep, I haven't remembered any of the others. (And the weird thing about the one I did remember is that I recalled every scene in it. I have no idea why that particular ep and only that ep so far originally made such an impression on me.)
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MTW's Current Events section from SG #72:
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More about Jeffrey in SG #73 - and agreat deal about it in SG #74...
Jeremiah's portrait, which SG #72 featured on a page of photos of Adrian Paul:
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And a small bit of an article about Joseph Gordon-Levitt that talked about his recent credits:
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Might that pilot have been 3rd Rock from the Sun? I think we can be pretty certain it was...
And this is the last I'll be posting from SG #72. Coming soon, SG #73...
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... he simply wrote it on his own and then tried shopping it around with the hope that some entity would make a deal. But in almost two years that still hadn't happened. And it's certainly hard to let go of hope when you badly want something to happen. But at this point, the longer time passed with no developments, the less likely there were ever going to be any developments. which, as we know, turned out to be the case. So, will SG #73 come to that conclusion? Again, I suppose we'll see...
Apparently the conclusion was indeed finally come to because August 1995's SG #73 is the first issue since the premiere announcement of the proposed film(s) was made in July 1993's SG #65 that there's no mention at all of the proposed film(s)...
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August 1995's SG #73's Sci-Fi Channel report:
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As I said last time, Barnabas would indeed begin on August 24th. Who knows why SG originally thought it would be in September?
It's great to read that the '91 Series did well during its showings - and no doubt that's why Sci-Fi was planning to run it again...
And who knows what was up with the SG promotion on Sci-Fi? But then you know who was no doubt involved in some way with it, so that's probably all one needs to know...
Very interesting to read that Sci-Fi had a big audience among women 18 to 49...
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August 1995's SG #73's Fest preview:
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It's interesting that both DS VAMPIRES & GHOSTS and DS RESURRECTED would preview at the Fest yet at least one of them wouldn't be sold at the Fest. In fact, it wouldn't be sold until months after the '95 NY Fest. Apparently they could be screened for the public whether they were available to the public or not. Although, screening DS RESURRECTED would certainly generate interest for it. And one does have to wonder what those who would watch DS VAMPIRES & GHOSTS would think after seeing that there wasn't any "never-before-seen bonus interview footage with Lara Parker" as had been promoted...
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Jeremiah's portrait, which SG #72 featured on a page of photos of Adrian Paul
Oops, I forgot to mention that there's a color version of the portrait on page 72 of PomPress' DS Resurrected book. Though that version doesn't include the frame.
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Normally I only share bits and pieces, if even that, of the following section of the SGs - but the installment in SG #73 has enough interesting bits to share the whole thing:
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Plus it also includes this candid from behind the scenes of the costume party:
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I had to look up Mojave Frankenstein. It underwent a title change to Frankenstein and Me, though it still remains pretty obscure. Which is kind of surprising, since it starred a young Ryan Gosling and featured Louise Fletcher and Burt Reynolds
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[pointing-up] Yes, given the cast, that is surprising. It's also surprising given that apparently it was honored with Best Director at the International Fantasy Film Awards.
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And again, normally I only share certain parts of the following section of the SGs, mainly the parts that relate to the '91 DS in some way. But I'm sharing the entire installment in SG #73 just to show how in August of '95 so much merchandise was already or soon would be available for DS' 30th Anniversary:
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The deal just keeps getting better for the Abbelaire watches.
The Ben Cross Barnabas model really was discontinued.
And the Imagine card set was still available through the Fest. And one thing that's quite interesting about that is that, unlike the watches, I've just realized that the Fest's deal for the card set seems to have gone up rather than down. As you may recall, as part of the Fest's '94 mailing (reply #52:Ads from the mailing for the '94 LA Fest:
) the Fest was selling the regular card set for $14.95. But as per the '95 Fest mailing and SG, the set went up to $17.95...
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Hmmm - I wonder if the next section from SG #73 should have been called "PUBLICATIONS OFFER FACTS, FUN & FLAWS" [hall2_wink] Well maybe not because not all the books were from PomPress and not all of them have errors (I'm simply sharing what's said about two and editing out several others):
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The offers referred to for the DS Alamanc were shared by SG #73 on its back inside page. In effect they printed both pages of a flyer similar to what's shared in reply #111 with the exceptions that instead of "Kathryn Leigh Scott" emblazoned across the top of the first page, it reads "THE DARK SHADOWS ALMANAC" - and instead of being dated "June 1, 1995," it's dated "July 1995." And also, just as with the version in reply #111, the "Special Hardcover Collector's Set IV" offer, which is part of the flyer shared in reply #113, is not offered. Thankfully the offer of that fourth set was included in the flyer in the mailing for the '96 LA Fest. But that mailing went out in November of 1995, so I suspect anyone who might have already taken advantage of one of the first three offers from the earlier flyer but would have taken advantage of the fourth had they known it existed might have been quite upset when they saw the updated flyer.
And I own the DS Music Book (how could I not with that beautiful cover photo from the NoDS deleted piano scene?!) But I have no memory of ever ordering it from MPI. Also, it's a PomPress book, so it seems odd MPI would have seemingly been the exclusive seller with no offers from PomPress. Perhaps SG #74 will make things clearer.
Also, and this will surprise no one, but the DS Music Book would not be published until June of 1996. And the book that was published is 112 pages, not 80. But again, perhaps things will be made clearer in a future SG...
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And here's SG #73's video report:
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Yes indeed - even just six years earlier than this SG the idea would have been unimaginable that so much DS would be available on video for home viewing. We are certainly spoiled.
And gee, what a surprise that the DS RESURRECTED VHS was delayed, AGAIN. Uh, not! I was heavily involved in online DS in 1995 and fans of the '91 Series were getting extremely frustrated with the delays. We had yet to realize that when it came to all sorts of DS merchandise, delays were going to become the norm rather than the exception...
And considering what a huge gasket Frid blew when he discovered you know who had used his one man show footage on the 25th Anniversary VHS without Frid's permission, it's also no surprise that the original version was deleted. Though, given that the original version had been out since July of 1993, it's not like myriads of fans didn't still own it.
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Yeah, the business with the Frid video was his biggest snafu, up to that point. He has managed to top it since then. [spider_scare] [spider_scare] [spider_scare]
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Normally I don't share anything from the following section of SG, but that's because it's usually just a listing of sites with a minimum of details about them. However, this portion in SG #73 is worth sharing:
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During the '05 LA Fest Midnite and I, along with another member of the forum, took a trip to Greystone, roaming all over the grounds and, yes, peeking through those leaded windows to glimpse the splendor and opulence within. However, Midnite has actually been inside because she attended one of the murder mystery plays that Greystone holds every year. She was even lucky enough to snap a photo of Alec Newman's Barnabas portrait because it was still hanging over the fireplace in the "drawing room."
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Some personnel material from SG #73 that's worth sharing and/or commenting about:
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Well, we know his remake of The Night Stalker never came to be. And who knows why he even wanted to remake it considering the original is so good? But then, we all know how DC loved to redo the same thing...
And could that bit about him having other projects in development be a subtle reference to the proposed '91 Series film(s). Maybe I was wrong when I said it looked like SG had finally come to the conclusion that there weren't going to be any developments on that front and that's why it wasn't mentioned in SG #73. Maybe it was here, just not specifically. I suppose we may have to wait until SG #74 to really see which situation is true...
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It's no secret that I love Dracula: Dead and Loving It. One reason is because it does a hysterically funny complete sendup of a sequence from DC's version of Dracula (a sequence DC ripped off, er, paid homage to, yeah, that's it, in Ep #2/Hour 3 of the '91 Series).
Lysette Anthony and Michael T. Weiss could have gotten together to compare working with Steven Webber...
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SG #73's update on THE FRIGHTENERS:
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And this section also included a photo of Juliana from the '94 LA Fest:
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More CURRENT EVENTS - 1991 DS PERSONNEL from SG #73:
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I have no idea if this is the same trailer ET showed. It may very well be because the actual trailer (as opposed to the Blu-Ray promo at the start the bit at the end for the clip) is about 2:25. But it does contain the then controversial kiss - and it has some of MTW's best moments - not to mention some hysterically funny moments with Patrick Stewart and with Jeffrey talking to his parents on the phone:
Jeffrey (1995) - Official Trailer (HD) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX-BHKnj0X0)
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According to the imdb trivia section for the film, Barbara was in discussion to play the wife of Dr. Moreau (Married to Marlon Brando! Wow!) but the character was written out in one of the many, many rewrites. It was an extremely troubled set and she was probably better off not appearing in it. Val Kilmer's behavior makes Roger Davis seem like Tom Hanks in comparison.
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That's very interesting - and a bit disappointing. I've never seen the film, so I had no idea if she's in it or not.
Thanks for checking things out, Uncle Roger. [hall2_smiley]
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As the DS REFERENCES IN THE MEDIA section from SG #73 says back in reply #129, Cinescape 8-95 had a piece on Jonathan Frid. That issue of SG shared it on the back inside page and here it is:
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Um, "the tacky Gothic serial"? TACKY?! [hall2_rolleyes]
And this is the last thing I'll be sharing from SG #73. However, before we get to sharing SG #74, I want to see if I can locate the article from the 7-4-95 issue of Soap Opera Weekly that SG #73 also referenced. They didn't share that, and not that I doubt it's as bad on facts as they say (after all, being bad on facts is the norm, not the exception), but I want to read if for myself as well as share it because, well, if it lives up to description, it may just be one of the worst pieces ever published in a widely circulated publication...
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Well, there are errors to be sure in this 7-4-95 Soap Opera Weekly article - even two whopping ones (ones that have actually appeared in more than one DS article - but more on that later). But at the same time, it's not the worst article I've ever seen.
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Though the interesting thing about this article is that it lists a source: The Soap Opera Encyclopedia by Christopher Schemering. The DS section in that book is pretty bad and it's quite sad when anyone uses it as a source, especially when I'm pretty sure it's the main source for the whopping errors that Frid left DS in 1968 and that the audience didn't respond to the 1897 storyline. We all know neither is anywhere near true. In fact, DS' ratings were at their highest ever during 1897.
But what I recall most about seeing this article is how happy I was to see the hoDS Julia and Barnabas still because it contained more detail than the only other place I'd ever seen it: in the DS Companion. A version of the still appears on page 97 of that book, but it's quite cropped:
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And could that bit about him having other projects in development be a subtle reference to the proposed '91 Series film(s). Maybe I was wrong when I said it looked like SG had finally come to the conclusion that there weren't going to be any developments on that front and that's why it wasn't mentioned in SG #73. Maybe it was here, just not specifically. I suppose we may have to wait until SG #74 to really see which situation is true...
Well, here's the truth as SG #74 from November of 1995 does indeed specifically bring up the proposed '91 Series film(s):
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It would seem as if yet another mention might mean that hope is almost bordering on eternal...
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SG #74's video reports:
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DS VAMPIRES & GHOSTS did indeed come out at the August NYC Fest - almost something of a miracle. [hall2_wink] And at least the fact that the Lara Parker material isn't on it is addressed, though who knows why it wasn't included? I suppose we'll never know. One thing that's interesting, though, is that they mention that MPI's 1995 catalogue said it would be included but they neglect to say SG also said the same thing.
And, of course, there's still no release date for DS RESURRECTED. There's also no mention anywhere in SG #74 as to whether or not it was shown at the Fest as initially promoted. But then...
I know I own it but I don't honestly recall if I've watched the 30th Anniversay DS Tribute. I must have watched it once because one thing I do recall is there was all sorts of special content promised. But whether or not it was never included (like the LP stuff on DS VAMPIRES AND GHOSTS), I don't recall. It would have been interesting if we actually saw Barbara Steele interview people but I suspect we don't because that would have been engaging enough for me to remember. But who knows? I'll have to revisit it one of these days...
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I wonder how far that Barbara Steele project got before it was dropped altogether. As well as the status of the footage.
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SG #74's '95 NYC Fest report:
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Here's what SG #74 had to say about the merchandise we've been following:
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Presumably the novels referred to are the ones from Harper Collins that began with Angelique's Descent. Though that novel wasn't issued until December of 1998, so if it is the same deal, obviously there were delays. But then, so what else is new?
And what a surprise that the Abbelaire watch deal was extended. Though considering that they were practically giving the watches away, most probably it was true that there really was a great response. But was the extension really done because of that response or simply because they hadn't sold all of them yet? Not that a company would ever say they were serving their customers when they were really just serving themselves. [ghost_nowink]
Something I didn't include was that MPI's version of Josette's Music Box was delayed. But then...
And here's what SG #74 had to say about books we've been following:
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Thankfully most of those "computer typsetting" errors were corrected when the Millenium Edition of the Almanac was issued in 2000 - but that version still leaves Diana Davilla off of the list. But then, I suppose it was just another "computer typesetting" error...
And, of course, no surprise the DS Music Book was delayed. But if it was to transform it from an 80 page book to the 112 page book that was released, then it was probably worth the delay...
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Most of SG #74's SFC report (once again I've skipped all the stuff about available satellite services and how to get them):
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The 1795 storyline began with Ep #366 as the 1st ep on 12/18/95. And speaking of pre-emptions, it was soon pre-empted on both the 25th and the 26th for "special" Christmas programming - though I doubt it was all that "special" and probably just aggravating to us. [b003]
Who knows when that SG commercial for Sc-Fi will finally air? Hopefully SG will give the exact date because I'm curious to look it up and possibly share it...
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This section of SG is worth sharing again, particularly because of SG #74's inclusion of an aerial photo:
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Sad news in SG #74:
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I couldn't find any definite information on Marge Berson. But the name Jean Arley was familiar. She was the producer of several NYC based soaps in the 1970's and 1980's: Love of Life, Search For Tomorrow, Where The Heart Is and OLTL. Not sure about the other three soaps but Clarice definitely would have worked with her on Where The Heart Is.
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Two things to share from SG #74 for two very different reasons:
First up is a section on Anthony George. Sadly, his comments about DS come as no surprise and it's probably best that he was only with the show for 6 months:
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And then on a much more interesting note there's:
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I watched Murder, She Wrote almost every week so I probably saw the ep but I have no memory of her part in it. I wonder what type of part it was?
If you have Peacock (which I don't) the ep (Season 12, Home Care) is available to stream...
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I couldn't find any definite information on Marge Berson. But the name Jean Arley was familiar. She was the producer of several NYC based soaps in the 1970's and 1980's: Love of Life, Search For Tomorrow, Where The Heart Is and OLTL. Not sure about the other three soaps but Clarice definitely would have worked with her on Where The Heart Is.
Thanks for your research. [hall2_smiley]
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You're welcome, MB!! I used to research stuff for work and that's one job skill that has turned out to be particularly useful.
Anthony George's remarks about DS are indeed no surprise. I think that I heard him say worse things than that. It certainly explains why he never attended a festival, even though he was in the area most of the time.
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Anthony George's remarks about DS are indeed no surprise. I think that I heard him say worse things than that.
That's probably true because he never had good things to say about DS. Though frankly he should have been grateful to it because after his series Checkmate was canceled he found a few roles but then he didn't work on TV for more than four years. (Why? Who knows because I do think he had talent.) When the opportunity to work on DS came along, he only agreed to a 6 month contract because the only reason he agreed to do it was because he hoped it would elevated his profile and help him to get primetime roles. However, what it actually did was start him on a whole new phase of his career in daytime where he had high profile roles on Search for Tomorrow and One Life to Live. He did do a few primetime guest roles in the ensuing years after DS but he never again starred in a series. The lion's share of attention that he garnered between 1968 and 2005, when he passed away, all came from daytime. And without having been on DS, well...
It certainly explains why he never attended a festival, even though he was in the area most of the time.
Given his attitude toward the show, who would have wanted him?! [hall2_rolleyes]
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Some personnel material from SG #74 about the '91 Series' actors that's worth sharing:
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More personnel material from SG #74 about the '91 Series' actors:
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And Barbara Steele's section also includes a photo from the '95 NYC Fest:
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And I believe that's probably the last photo of any of the '91 Series' actors that SG shared from a Fest. But then I also believe that her appearance at that Fest was the last time any of the '91 Series' actors attended a Fest (though not necessarily because none of them wanted to (as evidenced by the fact that some have attended the Friends of 91 Dark Shadows events)).
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And yet more personnel material from SG #74 about the '91 Series' actors:
Not sure if the following Roy Thinnes photo is from a Fest or not. Normally SG identifies a photo's source, but it has none. So, just in case, I'm including it:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_21_3a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_21_3b.jpg)
And a ton of MTW material, mostly all related to Jeffrey:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_21_4.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_22_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_22_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_23_1.jpg)
And two photos. Rather than scan the first one from SG, I tracked down a much better version of it on the Internet:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_22_1b.jpg)
But the second is scanned from SG:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_22_1c.jpg)
Who knew MTW has(had) a hotel in Miami Beach? Obviously I knew when this SG #74 came out, but I'd completely forgotten. I wonder if he still has it?
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And these are the last things I'll be sharing from SG #74:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_23_2.jpg)
Hmmm - that line about being compelled comes from the '91 Series. I don't recall Barnabas saying those words like that in the daytime show, or even in hoDS. However, not only did Barnabas say it in the '91 Series, the sequence was used in the promos. Excerpted from the 2 minute trailer:
And two more items from SG #74:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_23_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_23_4.jpg)
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Continuing with the MPI tapes for the '91 Series, here's the first page of the listings for the tapes from MPI's 1996 Catalogue:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_96CAT_Page12.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_96CAT_Page12.jpg) for a 1688X2200 version)
Probably not a surprise that in 1996 MPI reduced most of their VHS tapes for both versions of DS (not just the ones for the '91 Series) to $12.98. (Though an even bigger reduction would be coming within a few years.)
And a bit of trivia for that photo of Daphne and Joe: A photo very similar (except Rebecca Stabb is looking at Michael T. Weiss rather than at the camera) was the very first publicity photo for the '91 Series that was released in a national publication. It appeared as part of an article in the 5-1-90 issue of Soap Opera Weekly. And I could be wrong, but I believe the Soap Opera Weekly version was only published there and the version in MPI's 1996 Catalogue was only ever published there.
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And here's the second page from MPI's 1996 Catalogue:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_96CAT_Page13.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_96CAT_Page13.jpg) for a 1688X2200 version)
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And here's what MPI's 1996 Catalogue had to say about DS RESURRECTED:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_96CAT_Page15.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_96CAT_Page15.jpg) for a 1150X1054 version)
The smiling cast on the stairs was replaced by something decidedly different - though still smiling. [hall2_wink]
Would the VHS tape finally come out in July of 1996? Time will tell...
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Here's what MPI's 1996 Catalogue's updated listing had to say about DS VAMPIRES & GHOSTS:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_96CAT_Page15_0.jpg)
Apparently it was no longer an "eerie" collection of "macabre moments" - and there's no reference to "never-before-seen bonus interview footage with Lara Parker." It's also not entirely "sequential" because after moving along sequentially up to Ep #1239's scene between Brutus' Ghost and Melanie, things shift back to Ep #868 to the scene in which Edward and Quentofi bring the newly appeared Barnabas to the cave and see that "the vampire" remains staked in his coffin, and then Barnabas faints. And after the camera moves in on Barnabas on the ground, things dissolve to Ep #951 to the scene in which Barnabas, unconscious on the ground, wakes to realize he's a vampire again - the first scene showcasing his Pepe Le Pew hair. Cut to credits.
Actually that ending would have been a great way to herald a compilation that MPI has been very remiss in putting together:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Le_Pew_VHS.jpg)
Alas!! [sad3]
Though I suppose MPI could still do it one day. ::fingers crossed::
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Well, look what made the list of The 25 greatest ghost films - "The Frighteners" (1996) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/reviews/the-25-greatest-ghost-films/ss-AAFtZLF?li=BBnb7Kz#image=19)
And Jim Fyfe is in the photo to boot!!
And another example that quite often box office isn't everything...
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LOL, MB! For some reason I've always thought of that as Barnabas' Grandpa Munster hairstyle. Quite an odd decision to make and I've wondered just whose idea it was. The really weird thing is he suddenly looks like that, but nobody comments on it? In the early 1967 episodes, Vinnie would doll him up with special vampire makeup for certain scenes, but then he'd be back to normal once he was in his "dear Cousin Barnabas" mode visiting the family at Collinwood.
G.
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Loved the stuff on Clarice. I have a big soft spot for her. I so very much enjoyed when she'd show up in an MPI bonus interview at the end of a video.
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Quite an odd decision to make and I've wondered just whose idea it was. The really weird thing is he suddenly looks like that, but nobody comments on it?
No kidding! [hall2_rolleyes] And apparently they figured out it wasn't really working because just as suddenly, after Barnabas emerges from his coffin confinement in 1970PT, all trace of Pepe is gone.
In the early 1967 episodes, Vinnie would doll him up with special vampire makeup for certain scenes, but then he'd be back to normal once he was in his "dear Cousin Barnabas" mode visiting the family at Collinwood.
It wasn't until years later while watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer that I explained away all that to myself as Barnabas showing his true self but then figuring out how to control it. Though don't ask me why that theory doesn't apply to him first being a vampire in 1796. Though just maybe back then Barnabas wasn't as crazed as he was in 1967 after being released from a coffin after being chained in it for 172 years, so that form of his true self never really emerged. Though back in 1796 there were certainly eps when Barnabas was extremely pale.
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Loved the stuff on Clarice. I have a big soft spot for her.
Yes, that was nice. Though it was also sad. [sad7]
I so very much enjoyed when she'd show up in an MPI bonus interview at the end of a video.
Although, I wished she'd showed up more often - and I suspect you might too...
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Here's what MPI's 1996 Catalogue had to say about the DS TRIBUTE VHS release:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/MPI_1991DS_96CAT_Page14.jpg)
I watched it the other night and, unlike my initial suspicion that I did watch it back when it first came out, I now have my doubts. Nothing about it seemed at all familiar like I'd seen any of it before. However, it was well worth the wait because there were actually some things I was happily surprised to see.
Among those things were several versions of the bumpers that would come up during commercials in DS' earlier period to say DS would return in a moment, some of which were even voiced by Alexandra and Grayson (which was a big shock!) and how the show was being presented in color. With the exception of eps that have their commercials intact, it's really too bad that all of those bumpers weren't ever included on the video releases like the slates are for the pre-Barn eps.
And while I've read it in a few places, it was fantastic to get video documentation that it was indeed the Laura storyline that saved DS from cancellation because the show was renewed due to how much the ratings went up during the Laura storyline and before Barnabas made any sort of an appearance. (Though, of course, there's no taking away that Barnabas' success totally cemented the show's popularity.)
And the footage of Grayson at home was a hoot and fun to see.
And one thing that at first I thought was funny is that during the footage of Frid's interview on The Merv Griffin Show in 1969 Merv mentions that Joan Bennett had been on the show, but while I have vivid memories of her having been on The Dick Cavett Show and The Mike Douglas Show, I have no memory whatsoever of her ever having been on Merv. I couldn't imagine that I would have thought there wasn't anything memorable about her appearance so I'd completely forgotten it. But once I checked the list of talk show appearances in the DS Almanac I saw that she had been on Merv on September 25, 1967, just a couple weeks after I'd started to watch DS, so most likely I never saw her.
But what was very interesting to see with regard to all this -
SG #74's video reports:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_1_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_1_1c.jpg)
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It would have been interesting if we actually saw Barbara Steele interview people but I suspect we don't because that would have been engaging enough for me to remember. But who knows? I'll have to revisit it one of these days...
I wonder how far that Barbara Steele project got before it was dropped altogether. As well as the status of the footage.
- is that there's a section in the credits of the compilation that reads:
New York Segment Producers
DAVID DELVALLE
BARBARA STEELE
So apparently the interview footage with fans and perhaps some of the candid footage of some of the stars came from what Barbara Steele had shot at the '95 NYC Fest.
Now, what will be extremely interesting to see is if the tape came out in November of 1996...
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It would seem as if yet another mention might mean that hope is almost bordering on eternal...
It's still alive and well in SG #75 from February of 1996:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_1_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_2_1.jpg)
And since hope is still alive and well, I figured I'd share what Debbie Smith, DC's then assistant, wrote in the DS Almanac about the proposed film(s) for those who may not have that book or who may have forgotten what was written because, well, that book was first published over 25 years ago (back in August of 1995):
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/DSA_DS_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/DSA_DS_2.jpg)
I joined Prodigy a few months after the discussion there about the proposed film(s) had begun. It was quite interesting to read fans' ideas and to know DC was actually interacting with fans. Though one thing Debbie Smith did not mention in her piece was that the main reason DC chose the Prodigy DS bulletin board was because Melody Clark, who had been the co-editor of SG and the co-writer of the DS Companion, was the moderator there.
And for those who weren't online back in 1994, that was the Dark Ages of the Internet, nothing was graphical like it is today - everything was text and only text. Though thankfully the Netscape browser and graphics were less than a year away. Though even at that, graphics would be in their infancy - nothing like what we've come to expect today.
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And while we're on the subject of no developments:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_1_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_2_2.jpg)
But as I said last time, if this is the deal with Harper Collins, Angelique's Descent wasn't issued until December of 1998, so there must have been some delays along the way. Just par for the course when it comes to almost all DS merchandise...
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I've never shared an editorial from SG before because normally they're not anything like what follows - but this editorial from SG #75 is worth sharing:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_1_0.jpg)
It's interesting that David Henesy (with his last name spelled wrong [hall2_rolleyes]) and Mark Allen were listed in TV Guide considering neither of them appear in the first ep.
And for a better version of the TV Guide listing for the premier ep of the '91 Series, click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_1_0a.jpg) for a 548X787 version.
And originally I wasn't going to share a larger scan of the rehearsal photo because I thought it was probably in one of the PomPress books, but I checked and it isn't. In fact, I couldn't find this version in any of the possible places I could think of so it's possible that it hasn't ever been published anywhere except this issue of SG. So, click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_1_0b.jpg) for a 877X696 version.
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A couple more headlines from SG #75:
First up:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_1_1b.jpg)
And I thought this info regarding the novels was quite fascinating, especially the part about the first novel:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_14_1.jpg)
But where did they get that there are 33 DS novels? Well, unless they're counting the house of DS book - but generally that isn't included...
And the second headline:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_1_2.jpg)
I'd completely forgotten that she'd done those Lincoln-Mercury commercials...
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Well, look what made the list of The 25 greatest ghost films - "The Frighteners" (1996) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/reviews/the-25-greatest-ghost-films/ss-AAFtZLF?li=BBnb7Kz#image=19)
Anyone who might want to buy this may be interested to know that as part of their Black Friday deals today, Target has the DVD for $9.99:
The Frighteners (DVD)(1998) (https://www.target.com/p/the-frighteners-dvd-1998/-/A-81270107#lnk=sametab)
("This item isn't sold in stores")
Jim Fyfe is on the cover...
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Another section of SG that I've never shared before because normally there really isn't news in it - but this from SG #75 is worth sharing:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_2_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_2_4.jpg)
Who knows who produced the Sc-Fi commercial for them to have given the wrong address for SG? It would seem like anyone actually connected to DS knows the difference between the SG address and the Fest address. Though at least they should.
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And since we're already on the subject of the Sci-Fi Channel, here's its report from SG #75 from February 1996:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_6_1.jpg)
I'm a bit surprised that SG didn't mention that in February Sci-Fi would be ending 1795/96 and beginning 1968. Granted, that wouldn't happen until the 27th when Sci-Fi ran Eps #460 & #461(Joshua orders Ben to chain Barnabas in his coffin/Vicki is hanged; Vicki returns to the present), but it's not like SG #72 didn't herald Barn's arrival or SG #74 the start of 1795/96 before they began airing...
And when I read about the 30th Anniversary segment of Sci-Fi Buzz I wasn't sure if I ever even saw it. My copy of SG #75 didn't mail until February 12th, which was after the show has both originally run and repeated. And even if it was promoted during DS, which was the only show I watched on Sci-Fi, I recorded a week's worth of eps and watched them on the weekend, and February 9th was a Friday, so the first showing would have already happened. Even the repeat on the 11th might have happened before I got around to watching because I tended to watch my recordings on Sunday nights. About the only way I might have seen it is if anyone mentioned it online before it was on. But if I did see it and yet I don't remember it, it couldn't have been too interesting. But then, sadly, a few of the DS segments Sci-Fi Buzz did were easily forgettable...
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SG #75's 30th Anniversary Celebration in LA preview:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_3_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_3_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_4_1.jpg)
The reason this is so detailed regarding Fest events must be because of all the new SG subscribers alluded to in the "FANS SHARE TOGETHER" section posted in Reply #176.
It will definitely be interesting if there are any future reports of the '91 Series stars having appeared. None were mentioned in this report and I don't recall that any did - but that doesn't mean that it might not be that I've simply forgotten because nothing much was made of it in SG. We'll see...
I have a CD entitled "Music Inspired By Dark Shadows" that contains Angelique - but it's attributed to a group named Majenta Jets not The Barking Spiders. It will be interesting to see if that gets cleared up in a future SG...
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I noticed the same thing about the bands, so I did a little research. The Barking Spiders was an alternate name for an Australian band from the early 1980's called Cold Chisel. The band was entirely male, while the Majenta Jets were predominantly female. The most interesting thing about them is that a barking spider is Scottish slang for flatulence.
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I remember the Majenta Jets performing at the fest ... so I would say Marcy got her notes wrong. Kind of understandable I suppose because the Majenta Jets weren't very memorable ... lol. [band]
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For a change there are several worthwhile things in this section that are worth sharing:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_4_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_4_3.jpg)
When it comes to Saturday Night Live, little did Alec Baldwin know in 1996 who he'd be impersonating on the show 20 years later...
Imagine, something written about DS was incorrect. [hall2_rolleyes]
I wonder if Scott Hull ever played Whitman's actual Dark Shadows Board Game, as opposed to Milton Bradley's Barnabas Collins Dark Shadows Game, which is what he professed was good? If he did, I can't imagine he would have enjoyed BCDS quite as much. But then, if he was really young when he played BCDS, that might explain it. Though the really interesting thing is that he even played BCDS at all because he wasn't born until 1972.
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The FILMING LOCATIONS FOR DS section from SG #75 for the '91 Series:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_7_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_7_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_8_1.jpg)
I didn't try to clean up the photo of Greystone because, as was the case with MTW's Jeffrey publicity photo, I was able to track down a much better version of the photo:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Greystone.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Greystone.jpg) for a 2860X2250 version)
(The various locations for each version of DS are more detailed than usual in SG #75, probably because of all those new subscribers.)
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For some reason SG #75 combined the Video and Merchandise sections into one:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_4_4.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_5_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_5_1b.jpg)
I don't recall when MPI rereleased the 25th Anniversary with footage of a Frid Q&A replacing his one man show footage. Though while it was nice to get the rest of the compilation on DVD with the Q&A, replacing the one man show footage was a mostly useless endeavor. As I already said, people who wanted to own the original release already did, which means they had Frid's one man show footage. Replacing it was mostly like fixing the gate after the horses had already escaped from the corral...
Hmm - the '96 LA Fest was going to be in June. MPI said the DS RESURRECTED VHS would come out in July. Or perhaps MPI meant it would become available in July to the general public. I suppose we'll see...
I haven't played the 30th Anniversary CD in ages - I wonder if the version of "Joanna" on it is different from the versions on the movies soundtrack? I should check that out one day...
And speaking of the HOUSE OF DS/NIGHT OF DS SOUNDTRACK, that track list is incorrect. For example, there are no "Daphne's Room" or "Party Music" tracks in the hoDS section or "Alex At The Greenhouse" or "Trouble In The Tower" or "Quentin's Theme (Chimes) (unreleased)" or "Quentin's Theme (Turmoil) (unreleased)" or "Quentin's Theme (Saxophone) (unreleased)" or "Love Theme From Night Of Dark Shadows (Piano) (unreleased)" tracks in the NoDS section. However, in the NoDS section there is a track called "Quentin And Tracy (Love Theme From Night Of Dark Shadows)" between "Tracy Investigates The Tower Room" and "Angelique's Assault". Though, also missing from this CD is the track "House Of Dark Shadows Radio Spots," but that track actually appears on the 30th Anniversary CD...
It's really interesting that more than two years after the Innovation comics ended, SG is still hawking Glass House Graphics as the place to buy copies of the artwork...
And it's fascinating that the Abbelare watches deal is still going on in SG #75 from February of 1996 despite how it was supposed to last a limited time, ending back on October 31st of 1995. And even more fascinating is that the price for both watches has dropped from $38.45 to $34.45...
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It's hard to definitively know if the "Quentin And Tracy (Love Theme From Night Of Dark Shadows)" track, which is also a piano version, in the NoDS section of the House Of DS/Night Of DS soundtrack is the same as the proposed track "Love Theme From Night Of Dark Shadows (Piano) (unreleased)". But I would say not because of two reasons. One, "Quentin And Tracy (Love Theme From Night Of Dark Shadows)" does appear in the movie, whereas the proposed track says it was unreleased. And two, the 30th Anniversay CD includes a track entitled "Joanna (original soundtrack: unreleased version)" and as we know "Joanna" and "Love Theme From NoDS" are the same piece of music that was renamed for the movie. Plus, the version on the 30th CD is decidedly different than any other version.
And while we're on the subject of the 30th Anniversary CD and missing NoDS tracks from the movies CD, the proposed track "Quentin's Theme (Saxophone) (unreleased)" is on the 30th CD under the title "Quentin's Theme (Night Of Dark Shadows original soundtrack: previously unreleased version)". And one thing that's quite interesting is that the 30th CD's booklet says that it was at one time considered to be used as the main title music for NoDS. Thank heavens it wasn't because it would have been all wrong. It's much too lighthearted and would have been much more suited as background music for the costume party sequence in hoDS, just as a different lighthearted version was actually used in that movie.
And all that leads us to this from SG #75:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_5_2.jpg)
Who knows why things are back to saying "12+ DS tunes" when SG #73 correctly reported that the book contains 18? Though they've wisely stayed away from repeating the book will be 80 pages when it will actually be 112.
And I'm sure this will come as a huge shock, so I hope you're sitting down, but MPI's 1996 mailing didn't actually say a thing about the DS Music Book. So shocking, right? ... [b003]
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From SG #75:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_16_1.jpg)
Including DC's version of Dracula - and as I said, the sendup of a sequence in that is one of the best things in Dracula: Dead and Loving It.
SG #75 also shared this publicity photo:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_16_2.jpg)
And that photo comes from the following scene, which is a real hoot and a sendup of so many scenes in many vampire movies, including somewhat when it comes to Carolyn and Todd in hoDS and Daphne and Joe in the '91 Series:
Dracula: Dead And Loving It: I'm British (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHUvta6_V-E)
Also in SG #75 in this fan photo of Michael Cavanaugh from when he was doing the play Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been... at the Odyssey Theatre Ensemble in LA:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_16_3.jpg)
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More from SG #75:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_16_4.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_17_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_17_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_17_2.jpg)
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And more from SG #75:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_17_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_18_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_18_2.jpg)
I didn't even notice the Joanna Going/Jean Simmons connection when it was mentioned in SG #74. However, when I post the Jean Simmons section from SG #75 I'll precede it with what was said in SG #74...
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What was missed from SG #74 regarding Jean Simmons and Joanna Going:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_20_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_74_20_2.jpg)
There'a only a small bit in Joanna Goings' SG #74's section - basically about how both of them appear in How To Make an American Quilt. Everything said in that section is basically repeated in Jean Simmons' section above, so I'm not bothering to share the Joanna Going section because it would just be repeating info.
It's nice to see that many of the reviews loved Joanna...
And yet more from SG #75:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_19_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_19_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_20_1.jpg)
I didn't even remember that Ely Pouget had done a sequel to Lawnmower Man. I watched the original only because she was in it. She was good - the movie was OK - but as much as I enjoy science fiction, in that case I don't think I was the intended audience for it. If I see the sequel available somewhere, I would watch it - but again, only for Ely because I've definitely enjoyed her whenever I've seen her in something...
It's quite funny that Jean Simmons' agent wouldn't let her retire. [santa_grin]
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And yet more from SG #75:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_20_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_20_3a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_20_3b.jpg)
Rebecca Stabb's profile on IMDb has several photos from her version of The Fantastic Four:
Jay Underwood, Rebecca Staab The Fantastic Four (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0820847/mediaviewer/rm535245568/)
Jay Underwood, Alex Hyde-White, Michael Bailey Smith, Rebecca Staab The Fantastic Four (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0820847/mediaviewer/rm333918976/)
Jay Underwood, Rebecca Staab The Fantastic Four (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0820847/mediaviewer/rm367473408/)
Jay Underwood, Rebecca Staab The Fantastic Four (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0820847/mediaviewer/rm401027840/)
Jay Underwood, Rebecca Staab The Fantastic Four (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0820847/mediaviewer/rm250032896/)
Jay Underwood, Alex Hyde-White, Michael Bailey Smith, Rebecca Staab The Fantastic Four (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0820847/mediaviewer/rm15151872/)
Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing where the Barbara Steele photo is from because nothing in SG #75 indicates it...
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The 8-29-95 article from Soap Opera Weekly:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SOW_8_29_95_4.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SOW_8_29_95_1.jpg)
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SOW_8_29_95_3.jpg)
It's funny that I have no memory at all of this show having been on. And that's odd becuase I tend to pay attention to any show that looks like it could have soap elements, plus I was a fan of Rebecca Stabb even before she was on the '91 DS because I enjoyed her work on the ABC soap Loving...
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I had never heard of the show either. But it aired during the early days of the UPN network, so it's entirely possible that the show didn't air everywhere. UPN had an affiliate in the NYC area but it was the least desirable of the three independent stations in the market. And not every market had a UPN station. [Chanukah9] [Chanukah9] [Chanukah9]
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Who knows who produced the Sci-Fi commercial for them to have given the wrong address for SG? It would seem like anyone actually connected to DS knows the difference between the SG address and the Fest address. Though at least they should.
This was actually a more confusing situation than I'd originally thought. I tracked down my VHS tape of DS on Sci-Fi from 10-26-95 expecting to simply see the wrong address or to hear KLS simply say something like, "You can subscribe to ShadowGram by writing to P.O. Box 92, Maplewood NJ 07040" - but that's not how things play. SG claimed the Fest address was "accidentally" given - but when you watch the video below you'll see that it's clear that the Fest address was specifically given, even going so far as to state it is the address for the "official Dark Shadows fan club." Very strange.
But before I post the actual video, I have a story that goes along with it. Unfortunately I had to use my phone to shoot a video off of a TV screen to share the SG commercial. I have video capturing software for my computer (obviously, since I've shared videos), but for some very odd reason when I tried to capture video from the VHS tape the commercial is on, the video portion of the capture jumped all over the place. At first I figured it was because the VCR I'd used when I'd taped the 10-95 eps was experiencing tracking problems that I was unaware of at the time and the tape simply wasn't compatible with my current VCR. However, when just for the fun of it I checked to see if the VHS tape played fine on a TV, much to my shock, I discovered that it did. And that made the fact that it didn't play correctly through my video capturing software even odder than I'd originally thought. Why things should work on the TV and not through the video capturing software, who knows (especially when I tested other VHS tapes just to make sure it wasn't the software and they worked fine)? But anyway, the phone video is fine enough, through the image does move a bit from side to side because holding a phone to shoot off of a TV screen isn't the steadiest of actions. But if I'm ever able to figure out how to get a better quality video, I'll just make a new version. But for now, here's what I shot:
Now, what gets even more interesting regarding the commercial, SG #75 indicated that "a new revised" version would "tentatively" air on Sci-Fi on 2-15 or 2-28. But guess what? That's right - I checked the VHS tapes from those dates and there's no SG commercial to be seen. Perhaps SG #76 will have an explanation for that. But the good thing is that I checked the entire VHS tapes for that period and what I did discover was two Lara Parker commercials had aired. So, I used my phone to also shoot video of those and I'll be sharing them as soon as I finish formatting them for the forum...
(ADMIN: Actual video has replaced the phone/TV video)
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And here are the other two commercials I discovered. And apparently I'd managed to perfect my technique of shooting off of a TV screen because these two are much steadier than the ShadowGram commercial.
First up, the commercial that actually ran on 2-15-96, Lara Parker hawking MPI's DS Vampires & Ghosts VHS tape compilation:
I suppose it's only fitting that Lara got to do that commercial considering that her "never-before-seen bonus interview footage" was never included on the release. [santa_wink] And something struck as I was just watching the video to make sure it plays correctly: as much as I've always loved the photo that appears on the video's sleeve, isn't it an odd choice given that only one of the characters depicted fits the bill as either a vampire or a ghost? The other three are something else entirely. [santa_undecided]
And the second commercial that I discovered ran on 03-05-96, Lara promoting the '96 30th Anniversary Fest:
Given she's wearing the same clothes in both, apparently Lara shot both commercials on the same day...
(ADMIN: Actual videos have replaced the phone/TV videos)
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Continuing with February 1996's SG #75's CURRENT EVENTS - 1991 DS PERSONNEL section:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_20_4.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_21_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_21_1b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_21_2.jpg)
Last year and earlier this year I watched and recorded both seasons of The Invaders on MeTV. It's still on MeTV but they've moved it to 5am ET on Sundays. Though I suppose the downside of having it on at that hour only matters if someone wants to watch while it's actually on rather than recording it. It's starting over from the beginning starting on 12/27...
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More from SG #75:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_21_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_22_1.jpg)
As I recall he was quite interesting in Remember Me for reasons that I can't get into because it would spoil things for anyone who hasn't seen the movie or read the book. There's a compilation of clips/screen caps video on YouTube from the movie:
Remember Me - Michael T. Weiss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS221BkrbtU)
I have a recording of the movie around here somewhere, but I haven't seen it in years, so who knows where I put it...
And here's the photo referred to from the 11-21-95 issue of Soap Opera Weekly:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SOW_11_21_95.jpg)
It was included in a section entitled Memories Of Days Gone By, a celebration of the DOOL's 30th anniversary.
And an obit that SG #75 shared for Dan "Marilyn" Ross:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_23_1.jpg)
Now it's 34 books! Are they counting The Dark Shadows Book of Vampires and Werewolves, which he didn't even write?! But then, why should they have bothered to check when it's so much easier to assume all 34 books put out in the Paperback Library Gothic series must have been written by him. [santa_rolleyes] For all we know, in the next issue of SG there will be something that counts Barnabas Collins in a Funny Vein as one of his credits just because it was also published by Paperback Library...
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And more from SG #75 - I haven't been sharing things like this but it's an interesting article:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_23_2a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_75_23_2b.jpg)
And that is the last thing I'm sharing from SG #75...
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From SG #76 from May of 1996:
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An announcement in SG #76 of what was potentially very exciting news:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_1_3a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_1_3b.jpg)
And what made this all the more exciting at the time was that SG 76's editorial dealt with the endings of the original and the '91 Series but there was the possibility the '91 Series would be revived...
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SG #76's 30th Anniversary Celebration in LA preview:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_3_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_3_2.jpg)
Still a mention that '91 Series stars were expected. As I said when it was mentioned in SG #75, I don't recall that any did - but maybe I've simply forgotten...
I have a CD entitled "Music Inspired By Dark Shadows" that contains Angelique - but it's attributed to a group named Majenta Jets not The Barking Spiders. It will be interesting to see if that gets cleared up in a future SG...
And now it has been cleared up...
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I passed on the California festival. I think that the airfare was more than I could afford at the time. I also passed on the birthday event at Tarrytown. The idea of going into NYC to take a bus to come back in the same direction didn't really appeal to me. I don't remember if the restaurant location was originally announced or if the festival was being coy about revealing it until later. I didn't trust their taste in restaurants after the goofy Sunset Strip restaurant which was tied into the equally goofy NYC ghost tour in 1989.
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The 96 LA fest was my first, so it always holds a warm spot in my heart. When I saw like a thousand fans all there exclusively for Dark Shadows, I was like wowwwwwwwww - I'm home here. Lol.
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LOL, Patrick.
I would've tried harder to attend the '96 Fest had I known would be Michael Stroka's last.
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The 96 LA fest was my first, so it always holds a warm spot in my heart.
Exactly how I feel about my first, the '89 NYC Fest. And my first event was the party at the Red Zone/former DS studio where fans had unprecedented access to the stars, often just standing around and talking to a star one-on-one for a good 15 minutes or more without having to worry that the autograph line was being held up, which would have been the case otherwise. And that was possible because there were only 250 fans in attendance at the party, as opposed to 1000+ fans at the Vista event...
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SG #76's Media update:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_3_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_4_1.jpg)
I was a fan of both American Gothic and Kindred. It was quite interesting to watch NCIS: New Orleans, which used to co-star an adult Lucas Black, after having watched him as a 13-14 year old on American Gothic. And an appeal of Kindred for some was that actor Channing Roe was in the cast - and those of you who watched mainly because of him know who you are. [santa_wink]
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SG #76's Videos & Merchandise update:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_4_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_4_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_5_1.jpg)
And another company that produced DS merchandise bit the dust. Maybe there really was something to that curse I joked about back in September in Reply #88...
More delays with the music box - so surprising... [santa_rolleyes]
A new DS wristwatch? I don't even remember that being issued. But I'm sure we'll learn more...
And as I keep saying, Angelique's Descent didn't come out until December of 1998, so whatever SG #77 says about the possible novels should prove interesting once we get to it...
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SG #76's DS Publications update starting with the cover of the DS Music Book which appeared on page 1 of the issue:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_1_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_5_2.jpg)
And considering that the version of the cover in SG #76 scanned so badly, here's a color scan of the cover:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/DSMusicBook.jpg)
Gee, the book was made available from PomPress and not MPI - hmmm...
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I've finally gotten back to this topic. And here's SG #76's Sci-Fi update from May of 1996:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_5_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_6_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_6_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_7_1.jpg)
Given that SG #76 is from May of 1996, I don't understand why this Sci-Fi update says the channel is "presently entering the 1897 flashback" - that storyline didn't begin on Sci-Fi for a second time until August 19, 1996. [snow_huh] In May of 1996 Sci-Fi actually showed Eps #551 through #594, which is Adam demanding Barnabas create a mate for him through Nicholas calling up the spirit of Danielle Roget to be the mate's life force. Saying Sci-Fi was entering 1897 was definitely a mistake, but who knows how in the world it happened?!
I may check my DS tapes from 7-10 through 8-2 to see if Sci-Fi ran any interesting promos for the '91 Series. Though I may hold off on that until upcoming SG #77 confirms that the show actually ran on Sci-Fi during that period. [snow_wink]
Now we know why the corrected SG commercial never ran on Sci-Fi back in February of 1996 but I'm definitely not going to run to check my June tapes to see if the new commercial ran then. In this instance I'm definitely going to wait for confirmation in SG #77!! [snow_wink]
And normally I don't share the list of areas of the country that have reported to SG that they have the Sci-Fi Channel - but I figure this time around I would share it just to give an idea of what fans did or did not have access at the point SG #76 was published...
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I may check my DS tapes from 7-10 through 8-2 to see if Sci-Fi ran any interesting promos for the '91 Series. Though I may hold off on that until upcoming SG #77 confirms that the show actually ran on Sci-Fi during that period. [snow_wink]
I looked ahead in SG #77 and the '91 Series did indeed run during those dates. However, I checked my tape for 7-10 through 7-12 and was quite surprised to discover that Sci-Fi didn't run any promos during DS for the '91 Series' airings on those nights. When would have been a better time to promote the '91 Series than during the original? But apparently Sci-Fi thought otherwise.
Maybe it was because it was the '91 Series' third airing and Sci-Fi thought they didn't need to alert original fans? Who knows? Though I know for sure that Sci-Fi did indeed run promos during the original DS for at least one of its showings of the '91 Series. Maybe it was only the first airing?
It may be a waste of time to check the remaining dates that Sct-Fi ran the '91 Series for a third time so I'm going to look up when the first showing was and then check those recordings of the original series...
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SG #76's Filming Locations/Greystone report:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_8_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_8_1b.jpg)
I'd completely forgotten about Dead Man's Island until I read this report while formatting it to post. And if I'm not mistaken, I think I recorded and kept a copy of it. If I did, and if I can find it, I may share some screen caps...
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Two things worth sharing from SG #76's Current Events - 1966-1971 DS Personnel section:
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_9_1b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_9_1c.jpg)
I've always been given to understand in everything I've read about her that Joan was a natural blonde. So who knows where the author of that article got the notion she was a natural brunette, dyed her hair blonde, and then went back to brunette? But then, heaven forbid people do the actual research necessary to get things right. Either that, or they relied on a flawed source.
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_9_2.jpg)
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Pretty much every article that I've ever read about Joan Bennett states that she was indeed a natural blonde and that her career really took off when she became a brunette. I wonder what the source that the Shadowgram article was quoting actually was. Especially since there's no mention of Trade Winds, the film where she actually goes from blonde to brunette. Sloppy research.
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The first thing to share from SG #76's Current Events - 1991 DS Personnel section:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_16_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_17_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_17_1b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_17_2b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_17_2a.jpg)
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More from SG #76's Current Events - 1991 DS Personnel section:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_18_1.jpg)
Like Thayer David, Stefan Gierasch had such a prolific career that he was apt to show up almost anywhere and everywhere. Though he may have had even Thayer beat in one respect because I don't recall Thayer ever showing up bodily in a commercial. I remember him doing voiceover work for commercials, but if Thayer did ever actually appear in a commercial, I have absolutely no memory of it...
And:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_18_2a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_18_2b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_18_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_19_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_19_1b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_19_2.jpg)
Maybe in one respect it was a good thing that the '91 Series didn't last into Joseph Gordon-Levitt's teen years. It was one thing when we as pre-teens/teenagers looked at/bought the '60s and '70s teen mags for DS articles, but, uh, it would have come across very differently for 30/40-somethings to have been doing it. [easter_wink]
I'd really enjoy The Powers That Be and Joseph Gordon-Levitt in it. I was sad to see it canceled. But then it was a blessing for him that it did because he might have never gotten 3rd Rock...
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More from SG #76's Current Events - 1991 DS Personnel section:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_19_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_20_1.jpg)
If you have HULU or PARAMOUNT+(formerly CBS ALL ACCESS) you can watch Julianna McCarthy's Melrose Place. The ep is entitled The Circle of Strife and is the 22nd of the 4th season.
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More from SG #76's Current Events - 1991 DS Personnel section:
Normally I don't share Adrian Paul's section, but this one has several bits of interesting info, including comments regarding DS:
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_20_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_21_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_21_1b.jpg)
I'm sure I have a copy of Adrian Paul's The Owl, which I believe is a pilot he did before Highlander, though don't ask me what it was about, and a copy of his ep of Murder She Wrote. Though, as per usual, who knows exactly where they are?
Apparently, if the excerpts from the reviews are any indication, maybe it's best that I don't try to track down Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace, especially considering how much I enjoyed the original.
There's no such credit as Paradise Road listed in Jean Simmons' IMDb credits - though there is for Glenn Close. Perhaps she had to drop out for some reason. Hopefully SG will explain...
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More from SG #76's Current Events - 1991 DS Personnel section:
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_21_3b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_21_3a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_22_1.jpg)
Rebecca Staab and Adrian Paul actually have small parts in Love Potion #9...
It would be interesting to see how Vampire Cult Queens from Hell turned out. I've never come across it. And it has no rating at all on IMDb so perhaps that's because it hasn't been widely seen. If so, that's too bad...
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Wrapping up what I'm sharing from SG #76's Current Events - 1991 DS Personnel section:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_22_2a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_22_2b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_22_3.jpg)
Hmmm - I wonder whatever became of MTW's The Pretender pilot?
[easter_wink]
And here are two other things:
SG #76 shared the cover of the 30th Anniversary Collection CD. But it scanned so terribly that I'm sharing my own scan instead:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_23_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_23_2_1.jpg)
And SG #76 also shared a photo of Greystone from the 12-19-95 issue of Variety. However, it was shared backwards. Who knows if it appeared in Variety backwards of SG shared it that way? Though it's more likely that Variety shared it backwards because it would have been very hard for SG to have done it.
But anyway, I've flipped the photo so it shows the house correctly:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_23_1_a.jpg)
And because the scan isn't the greatest, I tracked down a photo of Greystone on the Internet that from a similar angle:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_23_1_1.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_23_1_1.jpg) for a 1920X1289 version)
And that concludes what I'm sharing from SG #76...
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Now that I have new video capturing software, I've replaced the phone/TV video with actual video:
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Now that I have new video capturing software, I've replaced the phone/TV videos with actual videos:
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And actually, I still have quite a bit of material that I plan to share in this topic. Believe it or not (and you probably do believe it [ghost_wink]) I'd scanned ShadowGram #77 from September of '96 all the way back on April 1st of 2021 but I've never gotten farther than that. But the NoDS 50th Anniversary topic will be slowing down in a couple months, so hopefully I'll have time to get back the this topic then...
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When I made the new video of the three Sci-Fi Channel commercials, I'd completely forgotten the full details of why I shot videos of them with my phone. Of course I remembered that it was because my original hardware/software wouldn't play those particular VHS tapes of DS on Sci-Fi correctly. But it wasn't until today when I went back and read what I'd posted that I remembered the full details:
Unfortunately I had to use my phone to shoot a video off of a TV screen to share the SG commercial. I have video capturing software for my computer (obviously, since I've shared videos), but for some very odd reason when I tried to capture video from the VHS tape the commercial is on, the video portion of the capture jumped all over the place. At first I figured it was because the VCR I'd used when I'd taped the 10-95 eps was experiencing tracking problems that I was unaware of at the time and the tape simply wasn't compatible with my current VCR. However, when just for the fun of it I checked to see if the VHS tape played fine on a TV, much to my shock, I discovered that it did. And that made the fact that it didn't play correctly through my video capturing software even odder than I'd originally thought. Why things should work on the TV and not through the video capturing software, who knows (especially when I tested other VHS tapes just to make sure it wasn't the software and they worked fine)?
If I had remembered the full details, I may have never tried to make videos with my new hardware/software because I would have figured that I'd have the same problem. And what's really odd is that I quite obviously didn't. Who knows why those tapes behaved the way they did with my original hardware/software but not with the new when I used the exact same VCR and connections to the hardware? But I'm not even going to try to figure it out because I'm just happy that things worked out fine this time...
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What better way to resume sharing in this topic than with this item from SG #77 from September of 1996:
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_1_3.jpg)
It's really quite wild that SG was still giving updates on a potential project where there hadn't been any sort of movement for over three years (recall it was first announced in SG #65 from July of 1993) and most fans had already accepted that it was probably dead. Though maybe it's a little less wild if we remember that SG #76 had shared this news:
An announcement in SG #76 of what was potentially very exciting news:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_1_3a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_1_3b.jpg)
And what made this all the more exciting at the time was that SG 76's editorial dealt with the endings of the original and the '91 Series but there was the possibility the '91 Series would be revived...
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More from SG #77:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_1_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_1_1aa.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_1_1b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_17_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_18_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_19_1a.jpg)
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_19_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_21_5.jpg)
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And more from SG #77:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_1_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_1_1aa.jpg)
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_1_1ab.jpg)
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_2_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_3_3.jpg)
Nothing like basically repeating what's already been said. [ghost_huh]
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_5_6.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_6_1.jpg)
Considering that the novel won't come out until December of 1998, one does have to wonder why it is that so much DS material never seems to be able to stick to its originally announced release date?
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_22_2.jpg)
Interesting that the guy's mind confused something from 1979 with something done in 1967-'71. Though Langella's Dracula is considered classy, so he could have confused things with something a lot worse...
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Regarding the MTW section shared in reply #222, I forgot to say yesterday that I looked up the 6-25 issue of Soap Opera Weekly and if that blurb about The Pretender is in it, I must be blind. I went through it three times, looking more carefully each time, and I found nothing. I even went back and ahead several issues to make sure the date wasn't wrong. But whatever publication dated 6-25 might have printed that blurb, it definitely wasn't Soap Opera Weekly... [ghost_nowink]
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And more from SG #77:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_17_2a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_4_2.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_4_3.jpg)
(Click here (http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_4_3.jpg) for a 1472X574 version)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_4_4.jpg)
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And more from SG #77's 1991 DS Personnel section:
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(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_17_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_17_3.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_18_1.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_18_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_18_1b.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_18_2.jpg)
Some of the reviewers of Dracula: Dead and Loving It may have thought the film was "dull" or "sophomoric" but as I've said before, one of the best and most hysterical sequences in the film is definitely its sendup of a sequence from DC's Dracula. The film is well worth watching just for that alone - and who knows how many, if any, of the reviewers realized it's a complete sendup, so that fact probably went right over their heads.
And here's a much better version of that Jim Fyfe shot from The Frighteners:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_18_1ba.jpg)
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SG #77's Sci-Fi Channel update:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_6_4.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_77_7_1a.jpg)
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I checked my VHS tapes for the period the '91 DS ran this time on Sci-Fi and lo and behold, unlike the time before, I actually did find a promo for it that ran during the original DS' showing. It ran on July 23rd during the first ep:
1897's first ep (Ep #701) ran as Sci-Fi's first ep on August 19th.
And the corrected SG ad did indeed run on July 8th - it popped up during that day's second ep:
Interestingly, the Vampires & Ghosts promo was shown again during the first ep on July 24th. It's too bad they didn't wait until July 25th because the ad's clip of Mrs. Johnson seeing Quentin's Ghost in the cottage would have coincided with Ep #669, the ep the clip comes from, being shown that day as the first ep on Sci-Fi.
And while we're on the subject of these sorts of ads, I was quite surprised to see this one come up during the second ep on August 7th:
Back in February of 1995 we were told in SG that the supply of those cards was "depleted."* Though, of course, after that they miraculously showed up for sale by the Fest in their November of 1995 mailing. And now in August of 1996 apparently even more miraculously they're STILL for sale through the Fest. Somewhere along the way the definition of "depleted" must have been changed in regard to the cards. The meaning of "limited time only" may have also been changed considering that ad first ran on Sci-Fi back in 1994 when the cards first came out...
*(Though keep in mind that SG reports what it's told - if something turns out to be otherwise, well, that's the source's error...)
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Interesting that the narrator on the trading card commercial is the ever so dynamic Jim Pierson. [ghost_wink] [ghost_grin] [ghost_wink]
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Yes, there's no mistaking those mellifluous tones...
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Before we continue on with SG #77 I want to revisit this post about SG #76 -
SG #76's Filming Locations/Greystone report:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_8_1a.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/SG_76_8_1b.jpg)
I'd completely forgotten about Dead Man's Island until I read this report while formatting it to post. And if I'm not mistaken, I think I recorded and kept a copy of it. If I did, and if I can find it, I may share some screen caps...
While digging out my Sci-Fi Channel VHS tapes from July-August, 1996 to check for ads promoting the '91 DS' on the Sci-Fi Collection, I actually came across the VHS of Dead Man's Island. But then, what do I always say about the possibility of finding something when you're looking for something entirely different? [ghost_wink]
I watched the movie this morning and made of video of the opening:
Both the performances and the movie as a whole are a lot better than some of the cast members might make one think, and the extensive use of Greystone - 95% of the movie was shot there - makes it a must for fans of Greystone.
Greystone is used way too extensively for me to feature captures of everything, but I will do my best to feature all the locations...
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Video and screen captures from the first 30 minutes of the broadcast of Dead Man's Island -
The first batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_12276.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_12481.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_12886.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_13220.jpg)
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The second batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_13549.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_13582.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_00269.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_17678.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_17696.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_18268.jpg)
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The third batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_19384.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_19575.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_21698.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_21784.jpg)
The Collinwood/Greystone model showed up after that scene but I'm going to hold off sharing video of that until the end...
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The fourth batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_24668.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_31482.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_32024.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_39940.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_40392.jpg)
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The fifth and last (for now) batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_40454.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_40530.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_40711.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_50990.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_51118.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_53852.jpg)
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Video and screen captures from the second 30 minutes of the broadcast of Dead Man's Island -
The first batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_60550.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_60584.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_61184.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_61282.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_62424.jpg)
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The second batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_64787.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_65090.jpg)
Who knew there's a real safe behind a painting in the study...
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_67966.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_68080.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_68130.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_68268.jpg)
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The third batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_68434.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_68848.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_68976.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_69710.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_69830.jpg)
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The fourth batch:
Different from the previous version.
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_81202.jpg)
It's too bad the '91 DS never had anyone behind this gate spying on things happening in the garden like the daytime DS frequently had someone behind the gate spying on things happening on the terrace...
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_84914.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_90202.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_90989.jpg)
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The fifth and last (for now) batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_93896.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_94707.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_95407.jpg)
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Screen captures from the third 30 minutes of the broadcast of Dead Man's Island -
The first batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_110404.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_110986.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_128624.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_128746.jpg)
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The second batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_139475.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_139580.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_139656.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_139751.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_139966.jpg)
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The third batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_144092.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_144876.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_146973.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_147098.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_147423.jpg)
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The fourth and last (for now) batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_147864.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_148534.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_149864.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_156306.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_156846.jpg)
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Screen captures from the final 30 minutes of the broadcast of Dead Man's Island -
The first batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_166538.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_166970.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_167261.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_167288.jpg)
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The second batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_167806.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_167974.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_168672.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_168836.jpg)
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The third batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_169114.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_170021.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_170178.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_170262.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_171456.jpg)
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The fourth batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_177164.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_177368.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_187812.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_187908.jpg)
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The fifth batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_187958.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_188230.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_190197.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_191536.jpg)
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The sixth batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_191905.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_193995.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_196090.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_196671.jpg)
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The seventh batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_197037.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_197488.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_197750.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_198198.jpg)
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The eighth batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_200102.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_200197.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_200422.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_200670.jpg)
The only reason I posted the above capture is because I love the way the shot is framed using the shadow of the art piece on the wall.
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_201910.jpg)
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The ninth and final batch:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_205625.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_205761.jpg)
Hmmm - has the ghost '91 Angelique (http://www.dsboards.com/91quoteimages_A/1015ds91_0.jpg) joined the group?
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_206156.jpg)
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_207530.jpg)
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It was interesting after seeing all of these to notice in today's (yesterday's, Tuesday the 23rd) paper that it was Barbara Eden's birthday and she's 91.
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And finally we wrap up with a screen cap and some video of the model:
(http://www.dsboards.com/91book4quoteimages/Dead_Man's_Island_frame_00982.jpg)
That last frame showing is actually of a set. As you may have noticed in the opening video (posted in reply #230), at one point in the movie a tree limb comes crashing through a window, and gee, I wonder why Greystone didn't look kindly upon the production doing that through one of the mansion's actual windows? [ghost_wink]
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It was interesting after seeing all of these to notice in today's (yesterday's, Tuesday the 23rd) paper that it was Barbara Eden's birthday and she's 91.
What a coincidence. Thanks for sharing the info, Josette. [ghost_smiley]
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If the people at Greystone didn't like the branch breaking a window, I wonder how they felt about the fire inside the house in the schlock classic Picture Mommy Dead. Or perhaps that was done on a set.
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You may recall that back in December of 2020 I discovered this commercial on one of my Sci-Fi Channel tapes:
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And the second commercial that I discovered ran on 03-05-96, Lara promoting the '96 30th Anniversary Fest:
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Well, apparently not to be outdone by Lara Parker, while I was checking my Sci-Fi recording of Ep #618 for a post in the "Must" topic, I discovered that the following '96 30th Anniversary Fest commercial featuring KLS ran during that ep on 06-18-96: