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Title: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 09, 2019, 11:10:48 PM
Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal For Mark B. Perry (https://deadline.com/2019/09/dark-shadows-cw-warner-bros-television-barnabas-collins-mark-b-perry-dan-curtis-1202729676/)

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Post by: Midnite on September 09, 2019, 11:31:11 PM
Thanks, MB, that is AWESOME!
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 12:04:42 AM
And the story is spreading to other Web sites - but they're all working off of Deadline's info...
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Post by: VictoriaWintersFan on September 10, 2019, 01:08:44 AM
It’s been years since I’ve posted. Glad to see the board is still around. Any here from early 2000’s still here. I was last in high school in 2004 in my last site visit.
 
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Post by: tragic bat on September 10, 2019, 01:09:27 AM
Wow! The approach they're taking of a next gen sequel rather then another reboot makes me really excited for this.
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 01:34:23 AM
Mark Perry's words do seem to imply he may have a Star Trek: The Next Generation concept in mind for this Dark Shadows:  Reincarnation - but he doesn't say that outright. IF that is what he has in mind, it will be fascinating to see how it takes shape. Will we get David as Master of Collinwood and his children/grandchildren, or perhaps only his children/grandchildren, or perhaps even something else entirely? And many DS fans have been saying for years that they would love a new series with a next generation take. Though will they love that if, say, that means no Barnabas, or perhaps even an entirely new set of characters, as they did with ST:TNG? DS fans can often be a fickle bunch - give them what they've said they've wanted and often they don't want it anymore...

Time will tell...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 01:44:54 AM
It's nice to see that now the story is spreading like wildfire - 14 new alerts to my e-mail in just the past 30 minutes...
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Post by: Gothick on September 10, 2019, 02:07:33 AM
Mark Perry (if I've got the name right--I am not familiar with his work, because as we all know, I live in a cave) has the good taste to quote Grayson Hall. He gets a Steve merit badge for that.

Let's be real--whether the series appeals to old guard fans or not is a fairly minor point in the greater scheme of things. I don't know what the target demographic of commercial TV is now, but I'd guess the most important market share now is around 15 to 35 year olds. If a significant share of that group doesn't tune in, the show is unlikely to last long. It's the CW again and I for one will be surprised if it airs at all, but who knows.

If DS takes off the way recent cult shows such as American Horror Show and Sabrina have done, then it could go gangbusters. One way those shows succeeded was by doing shorter seasons of only 10 or so episodes at a time, and I'd think the same will be true of the new DS if it is ordered to series. Just seems to be how the decision-making players run the game now.

G.

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Post by: Gothick on September 10, 2019, 02:12:15 AM
And a Hello to VictoriaWintersFan--I've been on the board since its inception, as is the case for most of the few people who still post regularly on here.

G.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 02:24:45 AM
I don't know what the target demographic of commercial TV is now, but I'd guess the most important market share now is around 15 to 35 year olds. If a significant share of that group doesn't tune in, the show is unlikely to last long.

Exactly. I said this back in '04 and it's only truer now: today's networks are not really interested in attracting the age group of DS' original fans, so whether original fans like whatever take Mark Perry comes up with can be a moot point.

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It's the CW again and I for one will be surprised if it airs at all, but who knows.

Though the people running the CW are very different than the people who ran the WB back in '04...

All I can say is that if the pilot script moves forward and if Rob Bowman is given the assignment of directing it, he'd better not abandon it in favor of directing a feature, which is what he did back in '04. That didn't work out for anyone concerned.

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If DS takes off the way recent cult shows such as American Horror Show and Sabrina have done, then it could go gangbusters. One way those shows succeeded was by doing shorter seasons of only 10 or so episodes at a time, and I'd think the same will be true of the new DS if it is ordered to series. Just seems to be how the decision-making players run the game now.

The CW uses both models. They have shows with fewer than 20 eps as well as shows with 20+ eps...
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Post by: Gerard on September 10, 2019, 02:38:38 AM
I'm not holding my breath.  We fans have all been there, done that with "revivals."  And, in the end, nothing happens.  Call me a pessimist. 

Gerard
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 02:50:44 AM
Though one of the things in the past with DS as well as other revivals is that scripts have been written and then shopped around. This time around with DS, it seems as if the CW is already interested in Mark Perry's take and has ordered a script based on it. IF that script turns out to be what they hope it will be, that's a huge hurdle crossed. Though there would still be many more hurdles to go...
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Post by: patrickm on September 10, 2019, 03:06:50 AM
All I can say is Woo Hoo... that is great news.   [banana] If it does get to the pilot stage, I hope they get Danny Elfman to score the music. He is terrific. Hard to believe, it's been 7 years since the Depp movie, 15 years since the WB pilot and gulp 28 years since the NBC remake.... Where has the time gone?
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Post by: Josette on September 10, 2019, 06:09:08 AM
Wow!  Really sounds encouraging - especially since he was one of the ones who ran home from school to see the original.  His comments on being faithful to the canon the way Star Trek has sounds great.  It really would be fun to see a "next generation"!!  And how interesting that Dan Curtis' daughters are involved.
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Post by: morlock on September 10, 2019, 06:24:15 AM
I'm so grateful to see all the discussion about this. I got the news a few minutes ago and just wasn't sure what to guesstimate. I'm so encouraged by everyone's thoughts and comments to give me some solace on the possibilities and probabilities. It's big news, but when isn't it?
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 01:36:12 PM
Mark Perry (if I've got the name right--I am not familiar with his work, because as we all know, I live in a cave) has the good taste to quote Grayson Hall.

'My plan is to take as few liberties as possible with the Dark Shadows canon, while bearing in mind a quote from a 1970s episode delivered by the inimitable Oscar-nominee Grayson Hall as Dr. Julia Hoffman: ‘The Collins family history is not particularly famous for its accuracy.’”'

That remark is obviously giving us a clue about something. But I'm not quite sure about what...

As for Mark Perry, I checked his writing credits on IMDb and I was actually most impressed that he wrote for Pasadena. Some might have no idea what that show was. But it was a really trippy/twisty soap that ran on Fox back in 2001/2002. It was definitely ahead of its time. And Martin Donovan, who played Roger in the '04 pilot, was a part of the cast. I loved it...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 02:16:37 PM
Still going through dozens of new alerts to the news. So far none have more info than what Deadline shared. But I'm sharing this link -

CW Plans New “Dark Shadows” Series (http://www.darkhorizons.com/cw-plans-new-dark-shadows-series/)

- simply because it contains the following -

"The WB did a pilot in 2004 which starred Alec Newman as Barnabas Collins along with Jessica Chastain, Kelly Hu, Martin Donovan, Matt Czuchry and Jenna Dewan."

and it's nice to see so much info on the '04 pilot being mentioned for a change. Though apparently Marley Shelton is chopped liver even though she's made many TV appearances since doing the pilot, including starring in three TV series...

- and this link -

The CW Knows Its Audience, Wants to Resurrect Another Classic With Dark Shadows: Reincarnation (https://www.vulture.com/2019/09/the-cw-reboots-dark-shadows-into-dark-shadows-reincarnation.html)

- simply for the comment about Johnny Depp's Barnabas wig.  [ghost_grin]
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 02:56:08 PM
Their article about the script deal is currently the most commented article on TVLine.com:

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/Comments.jpg)

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Post by: patrickm on September 10, 2019, 03:48:57 PM
Mark Perry also wrote for The Wonder Years, a big favorite of mine. So I think the reboot is in good hands.
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Post by: Gothick on September 10, 2019, 05:50:36 PM
I actually watched a few episodes of THE WONDER YEARS back when it was on, and I thought it was a really well done show. Of course I have no idea what calibre Mr Perry's more recent work has shown. I did think his comments in that press release were thoughtful and on a hopeful track, and that wasn't just because he quoted Grayson (I actually don't recall her saying that line on the show).

G.
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 05:58:20 PM
(I actually don't recall her saying that line on the show).

I figured she must have said it in 1970 while researching 1840. And sure enough, when I did a search of Robservations, up came this from Ep #1075:

... Julia and Barnabas are going through massive tomes down in the drawing room. After all our research, complains Barn, the only things we've been able to find out are Tad and Carrie's dates of birth and death. This can mean a great deal says Julia--Carrie and Tad died at about the same age that David and Hallie are now. We've got to find much, much more, insists Barnabas. So far, we haven't come up with much, agrees Julia. At least the fact that they both died at the same time warranted some explanation, he says. Try to remember that the Collins family history isn't famous for accuracy, says Julia--I mean, what happened to you was important, and you were deliberately omitted. ...

As for Perry, when I checked IMDb I noticed that I've watched several of the shows he's written for - though I certainly don't recall his specific scripts. And, unfortunately, I don't own any of the shows on DVD, so I can't pop in a disc and revisit them...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2019, 06:18:42 PM
As for Perry, when I checked IMDb I noticed that I've watched several of the shows he's written for - though I certainly don't recall his specific scripts. And, unfortunately, I don't own any of the shows on DVD, so I can't pop in a disc and revisit them...

Actually, I take that back. I own the first season of Revenge on DVD - and after pulling it out, I just noticed that 3 of his eps are on that set. The first season of that show was by far its best, with an amazing season finale, which Perry wrote. So, I suspect that if I revisit them, I'm going to discover Perry is an amazing writer...
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Post by: Gothick on September 10, 2019, 06:46:22 PM
Thanks for looking that line up, MB! I do remember that scene now, but it's so long since I last watched those shows that I don't recall the line at all. I'm sure Grayson had fun with that bit of dialogue.

G.
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Post by: Gerard on September 11, 2019, 12:59:26 AM
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the article.  Is this another remake or a reboot?  If it's the latter, is it DS 50+ years later/  Who of the characters (based upon the performers) is still alive?  We've got Carolyn, David, Quentin and Maggie (among the main ones - there are other minor ones).  Even Angelique, in some form, would still be alive.  Everyone else has gone to the great beyond.  I forgot, Willie is still alive.

Do they intend to get the original actors/actresses back?  Will they be recast?  Dallas was rebooted with the OC, as was Will and Grace and Roseanne (now The Connors after Ms. Barr did her whoops and got knocked off).

Like I said, I'm a pessimist.  Guess we all need to wait and see.

Gerard
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Post by: dom on September 11, 2019, 02:57:01 AM
I'm very fascinated with the idea of original cast members showing up for stints as their original characters. I think it could work so well.
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 11, 2019, 03:52:40 AM
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the article.  Is this another remake or a reboot?  If it's the latter, is it DS 50+ years later

At this point nothing is known for sure. Some fans are taking remarks in the article, particularly Mark Perry's references to Star Trek: The Next Generation along with the show's title, Dark Shadows: Reincarnation, to mean the show will be some sort of "next generation" take on the original. But that isn't made absolutely clear in the article, so it may not be. We really need more details from TPTB before we'll know anything for sure...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 11, 2019, 03:54:25 AM
I'm very fascinated with the idea of original cast members showing up for stints as their original characters. I think it could work so well.

That would certainly be interesting. Normally I'm not a fan of a new version of a show bringing something like original actors as their original characters in - at least not initially or even in a first season - I'd like to see the new show stand on its own first. But if this new show is going to have a "next generation" take, as you say, it could work...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 11, 2019, 04:08:19 AM
Their article about the script deal is currently the most commented article on TVLine.com

The article is still the most commented - now with 79 responses...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 11, 2019, 05:15:12 AM
'Dark Shadows' Sequel Series Coming to The CW — Pros & Cons in the Age of Reboots and Revivals
This isn’t the first time the 1960s cult classic is getting a modern iteration. (https://www.tvinsider.com/811519/dark-shadows-sequel-series-cw-pros-cons/)

Seems like they have more pros than cons...
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Post by: KMR on September 11, 2019, 05:58:14 AM
This news is beyond exciting! (Although I do have to keep in mind how long the Depp/Burton project took to become reality--and what that reality turned out to be, for better or worse.)

One wish I have for this is that they keep the essence of Sy Thomashoff's set designs--in particular the foyer and drawing room of Collinwood and the Old House. Not full carbon copies, of course, but tweaked a bit to make them more grand (and realistic), and it would be a treat to see all the walls in each of the rooms! Since this is intended to be a continuation, keeping the same basic architecture just makes sense.
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 11, 2019, 03:56:44 PM
The article is still the most commented - now with 79 responses...

Still the most commented - now with 95 responses...

(It's interesting how many new/younger than 50 fans seem to be watching DS on Decades. One might expect the Decades Channel itself wouldn't attract many but the 50+ crowd - but one could seemingly be wrong...)
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 11, 2019, 04:12:15 PM
MeTV has an article whose headline seems to be pushing the "next generation" notion:

A new Dark Shadows sequel series is coming to television
The new show is being compared to Star Trek: The Next Generation. (https://www.metv.com/stories/a-new-dark-shadows-sequel-series-is-coming-to-television)
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 11, 2019, 04:20:53 PM
Looks like collider.com has been won over by what they've read:

A ‘Dark Shadows’ Spinoff Series Is Coming to The CW and It Actually Sounds Good (http://collider.com/dark-shadows-spinoff-series-the-cw/#dark-shadows-tim-burton-abc-series-photos)

It's actually quite fascinating how many sites are reporting the news of the script deal. I must have received close to 100 alerts/links to sites - and I'm still sifting through them...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 11, 2019, 04:28:51 PM
b]"The WB did a pilot in 2004 which starred Alec Newman as Barnabas Collins along with Jessica Chastain, Kelly Hu, Martin Donovan, Matt Czuchry and Jenna Dewan."[/b]

and it's nice to see so much info on the '04 pilot being mentioned for a change. Though apparently Marley Shelton is chopped liver even though she's made many TV appearances since doing the pilot, including starring in three TV series...

It's nice to see that this one -

Dark Shadows sequel series in the works (https://www.looper.com/165669/dark-shadows-sequel-series-in-the-works/)

- remembers Marley Shelton was in the pilot -

"... the WB created a pilot for a Dark Shadows remake. The pilot featured the likes of Alec Newman, Marley Shelton, Alexander Gould, Martin Donovan, Jenna Dewan, and Jessica Chastain ..."

- as well as Alexander Gould. Though they omitted Kelly Hu and Matt Czuchry. Seems like there's no getting all the actors in.  [ghost_nowink]  No one yet has mentioned Blair Brown...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 12, 2019, 06:41:58 AM
Still the most commented - now with 95 responses...

Now with 97.
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Post by: Brandon Collins on September 12, 2019, 02:18:01 PM
I was very excited to hear this news the other day. I know a lot of fans are die-hard for the original and are very skeptical when it comes to any sort of reboot/remake/continuation. And they should be. But I'm hopeful. At a bare minimum, even if this doesn't work out, the fact that DS can still pop in in mainstream pop culture after 50 years and potentially generate new interest just speaks to the power of this brand (and those working behind it).

I'm also encouraged by Perry's comments regarding the original and his love for it. I think he hit the nail on the head when quoting Julia Hoffman's comment about the family history not being particularly accurate. This is a great approach to take that could allow for them to rewrite some of the history, the bumps in the road, and mine some further story out of this franchise. It also could lend itself to the inclusion of some of the original actors as their original characters when done correctly.

I also think that the CW is looking for somewhere to drive fans of Supernatural, a long running and successful show for them, because that is ending with this newest season. So if things work out correctly, perhaps DS could slide in and absorb some of their fanbase.
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Post by: Robot_Quentin on September 12, 2019, 04:59:38 PM
[headbang] [hello] Ohhhh this is exciting!! I'm cautiously optimistic about it being on the CW, as I would've preferred to see it on a streaming service due to the limitations of network releases. I'm wondering if perhaps with the popularity of shows like Outlander, they will dabble into the time-travel aspect of DS. That is really what I'm hoping for. Theoretically they could go the route of the J.J. Abrams Trek movies and create something of an alternate time-line via I-ching or the stairway thru time in the first episode. The possibilities are endless really. I'll be crushed if they don't have some cameos, or people playing their old characters. Hands down, the best news I've heard in a looooong time. 
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 12, 2019, 05:10:04 PM
Now with 97.

Now with 104. Obviously the news is really registering with the TVLine.com readers.

And one thing that I find fascinating in general is that the news of the script deal has actually gone international. Today I received alerts for sites in Asia, Panama and Australia...
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Post by: Gothick on September 12, 2019, 08:42:01 PM
If they're eyeing it as a replacement for Supernatural, I predict that the story will focus on teenage versions of Barnabas and Quentin, frequently eyeing one another with smolderingly slashy ambiguous eyes while shirtless and damp from their exertions trying to banish this week's MonsterCurseMemeHorror that will SPELL DOOM FOR THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE.

It will be fun!

cheers, G.
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Post by: morlock on September 12, 2019, 08:51:51 PM
I was on that mindset as well, hearing that "Supernatural" was ending soon so something on a similar level could fill up the slot.
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Post by: Gothick on September 12, 2019, 11:19:26 PM
I apologize to the moderators for how many times variations on the word "eye" appeared in my post.

G.
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Post by: Gothick on September 12, 2019, 11:34:14 PM
Apparently, there were Leviathans on Supernatural. Maybe the new DS is going to be set up as a Supernatural spinoff. Seems highly plausible.

Remember, you read it here first.

G.
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 13, 2019, 01:34:58 PM
Hmm - the author of this one certainly seems confused:

The Vampire Comedy 'Dark Shadows' Is Getting A Reboot On The CW
A new adaptation of the American cult series is now on the cards. (https://www.konbini.com/en/series/the-vampire-comedy-dark-shadows-is-getting-a-reboot-on-the-cw)

I'm not sure which country this site is in, but they do use the European method for dates (the article is dated 12/09/2019) so perhaps they can be forgiven for only knowing the Depp/DS film. But still, they manage to claim the original series was a comedy, which it obviously wasn't...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 13, 2019, 01:36:43 PM
I apologize to the moderators for how many times variations on the word "eye" appeared in my post.

No apology necessary.  [ghost_nowink]
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Post by: Brandon Collins on September 13, 2019, 02:12:02 PM
I would think that in order to capitalize on the fanbase of Supernatural, they are going to have to move quickly with this new version of DS. After all, Supernatural will end probably sometime next spring. Is there enough time to have a new DS ready for air by next fall to take Supernatural's spot in the line up? I know Hollywood can move fast, but I wouldn't want them to do that with the risk of bungling this whole thing.
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Post by: madscntst on September 14, 2019, 01:23:38 AM
Hi everyone, coming out of lurkdom to say I heard about this series the other day, and while I know nothing is certain until it happens, I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that this series will be made and will be a good one! I look forward to reading more news and updates about it here.  Hope everyone's been well!!
Cathy
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Post by: Josette on September 14, 2019, 08:18:46 AM
Our newspaper's TV column regularly has a section called Kept/canceled/etc. and today (still calling Friday today) after listing a few programs renewed or canceled, it had "A continuation of the 1966-
71 “Dark Shadows” is in development at The CW."
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Post by: morlock on September 14, 2019, 08:23:54 AM
Hmm - the author of this one certainly seems confused:

The Vampire Comedy 'Dark Shadows' Is Getting A Reboot On The CW
A new adaptation of the American cult series is now on the cards. (https://www.konbini.com/en/series/the-vampire-comedy-dark-shadows-is-getting-a-reboot-on-the-cw)

I'm not sure which country this site is in, but they do use the European method for dates (the article is dated 12/09/2019) so perhaps they can be forgiven for only knowing the Depp/DS film. But still, they manage to claim the original series was a comedy, which it obviously wasn't...

We-l-l-l-l, it actually says "a mix of soap opera and the comedy typical of the era." That's pretty close to me as when I started viewing the original. I thought, "Wait, that person cracked a joke! I can't remember ever hearing this kind of humour on a soap opera before." Of course I was growing up on things like 'Eastenders' and 'Another World' (sorry), and other ones I saw were always dead-serious in tone. Then, with 'Dark Shadows', things like Carter's issue with his mustard on ham from the deli came up. That seemed to be really important to him over the details of Roger's accident.

At first I was thinking, "Maybe they are considering the era as the 1960's for having humour," but the only semi serious drama I can (at present) remember with that went back to the 1950's on radio, X Minus One, which had quite a bit of humour at times that kept me interested over other science fiction stories. I've often wondered if there was a window of time in broadcast and silver screen where humour was expected or natural as a basic cushion, whereas "comedy" in label might be more in keeping with never ending gags piling up.
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Post by: michael c on September 14, 2019, 05:49:11 PM
definitely exciting news...

but having lived through the highs and lows of 2004 and 2012 i'm going to sit this round wish-list casting, storyline speculation, irrational demands that the 80-something original cast be involved, "Jonathan Frid is the ONLY Barnabas!!!" meltdowns, wails of discontent when this-or-that character is not on the roster, and the usual litany of fandom tantrums, false hopes, and go-nowhere pilot disappointments.

i'll watch it when it comes on.  [ghost_rolleyes]
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 14, 2019, 06:18:26 PM
[pointing-up]  Think of those of us who also lived through it with the NBC DS (some of the initial comments in the fanzines were beyond the pale!) and the 2002 Fox pilot (which never got past DC writing a script).

And if the '91 DS proved anything, it doesn't end with the show actually getting aired...

Also, you're not the only one not looking forward to the fan arguments because last month when The Collinsport Historical Society reported that the rumors of a potential new DS being shopped around were true because an article on Bradley Gallo in Forbes Magazine confirmed them, the author of the article wrote: "I'm already dreading the inevitable Facebook arguments this is going to provoke."
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 14, 2019, 06:42:21 PM
morlock, I agree that the original DS had a lot of humor, particularly the snide remarks during the 1897 storyline, many of which were totally priceless.  [ghost_cheesy]  But I don't think that's the kind of "comedy" that site is inferring, especially when they've chosen to use photos from the Depp/DS film to promote their article. So anyone seeing that could easily presume the kind of comedy the article is referring to is of a similar sort to the Depp/DS film. But I doubt the CW will be going that route...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 14, 2019, 08:24:25 PM
It's very interesting that an article on Netflixlife.com -

A Dark Shadows sequel series is in the works at The CW
The CW is rebooting Dark Shadows again! Dark Shadow: Reincarnation will be a sequel series and is in the works now. (https://netflixlife.com/2019/09/12/dark-shadows-sequel-the-cw/)

- details that -

"Deadline reported that The CW will once again attempt to resurrect Barnabas Collins to pay residents of Collinsport, Maine a visit."

- when there's no such claim in Deadline's report. In fact, other than mentioning how popular Frid became playing Barnabas, there's no mention of Barnabas in the article or anything approaching an indication that Barnabas will even be a part of the show. So here's another clear example of a site injecting their own assumption into a piece and presenting it as a fact their source contained when it actually didn't. But then, we see that all too often on the Internet, and not just in regard to DS...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 14, 2019, 08:36:19 PM
"Darkish Shadows"??!! Do they think it's a part of Black-ish, Grown-ish and the upcoming Mixed-ish?!

Warner Bros. and The CW Developing Dark Shadows Sequel Series (https://scoopsquare24.com/warner-bros-and-the-cw-developing-dark-shadows-sequel-series/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 14, 2019, 09:48:33 PM
In addition to MeTV, I see where COMET also has an article on their site about the script deal. But then it shouldn't be any surprise that the retro stations would report the news.  [ghost_nowink]

Though I have to say that I love how a soapcentral.com author starts off her article with, "Oh My Gothic!"  [ghost_wink]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: morlock on September 14, 2019, 11:04:04 PM
Aye-aye, MB. I suppose it would have been more helpful if they expressed it as "humour" instead of "comedy". Thanks for explaining the article a bit more there. Glad to see this board at last too, after years of not being able to see it. You all really understand the load of missteps that arrives in so much reporting out there. It's a treat and relief to see.

Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 15, 2019, 04:26:11 AM
I own the first season of Revenge on DVD - and after pulling it out, I just noticed that 3 of his eps are on that set. The first season of that show was by far its best, with an amazing season finale, which Perry wrote. So, I suspect that if I revisit them, I'm going to discover Perry is an amazing writer...

That would actually be an understatement. I just finished watching those 3 eps and was nearly instantly reminded what a fantastic show Revenge was - but more to the point for us, what a great writer Mark Perry is. If he writes for the potential DS series in any way like he wrote for Revenge, we're going to be in for a totally character driven, incredibly spellbinding, edge of your seat thrill ride. And trust me, I'm not exaggerating when I say that...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: KMR on September 15, 2019, 04:41:45 AM
In fact, other than mentioning how popular Frid became playing Barnabas, there's no mention of Barnabas in the article or anything approaching an indication that Barnabas will even be a part of the show. So here's another clear example of a site injecting their own assumption into a piece and presenting it as a fact their source contained when it actually didn't. But then, we see that all too often on the Internet, and not just in regard to DS...

Don't they also get quite ahead of things when they say "Dark Shadows is officially coming back!"?? I mean, all we were actually told is that they have the go-ahead to write a pilot. There are still the steps of approving the shooting of the pilot, actually shooting it, and then praying it gets picked up for series.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gothick on September 15, 2019, 05:13:06 AM
Some fans speculate about the new series. I don't really have time to read through all of this, but perhaps it will be of interest to some of you.

http://www.collinsporthistoricalsociety.com/2019/09/a-few-thoughts-about-dark-shadows.html

G.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 15, 2019, 08:26:18 PM
I also think that the CW is looking for somewhere to drive fans of Supernatural, a long running and successful show for them, because that is ending with this newest season. So if things work out correctly, perhaps DS could slide in and absorb some of their fanbase.
I was on that mindset as well, hearing that "Supernatural" was ending soon so something on a similar level could fill up the slot.

You're both right in that the CW is looking for a replacement for Supernatural, however, a potential DS isn't the only possible replacement. Members who have been following the development of a Lost Boys series -
Lost Boys Adaptation
- know that has been in the pipeline since this past January. And while this past May the pilot that was shot was passed on by the CW, there were reports almost immediately after that the CW would recast practically every role and reshoot it later this year. So, a potential DS would seem to have competition in the replace Supernatural department. Though the interesting thing is that over the past few weeks I've been seeing rumblings that the CW may no longer be interested in reshooting. None of the reports of that have been official, so they might all be rumor and everything might still be completely on track. Though it is interesting that the rumblings would seem to coincide with the negotiations for the DS script deal. But it's way too early to read anything into that.

Could the CW have both a Lost Boys series and a Dark Shadows series? Sure - they already seem to have 1001 superhero series! And judging by the LB movie, which the pilot was closely based on, LB and DS aren't really anything alike. But only time is going to tell how things will play out...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 15, 2019, 11:42:54 PM
Classic soap Dark Shadows gets another chance at life and death (https://www.monstersandcritics.com/soaps/classic-soap-dark-shadows-gets-another-chance-at-life-and-death/)

"One thing’s for certain, there’s always room for another soapy drama!"

I couldn't agree more...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Patti Feinberg on September 16, 2019, 01:21:34 AM
First off:

Welcome Back

 Patrick M, VictoriaWintersFan and tragic bat!

I've seen stuff on FB about a reboot.

A sequel would be good; Carolyn would be the matriarch, widowed of Sebastion Shaw.

David's daughter would live there, as would the great-grandniece of Eliot Stokes.

Imagine 2 teen daughter's living at Collinwood.

The ghosts would HAVE to scare them for Carolyn's sanity!!

Willie would be elderly and living on the great estate.

There would be a full-time landscaper, instead of alllllllllll the trees, Collinwood would have a proper English garden!

Even all of this going on, Carolyn is sort-of being pressured to take in a way-ward 10 year old boy, named Drake.

Patti
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Brandon Collins on September 16, 2019, 01:39:37 PM
Could the CW have both a Lost Boys series and a Dark Shadows series? Sure - they already seem to have 1001 super hero series! And judging by the LB movie, which the pilot was closely based on, LB and DS aren't really anything alike. But only time is going to tell how things will play out...

Thanks for bringing up this Lost Boys adaptation. I haven't heard of that at all. Though, I do agree with your point that if the CW is going back and forth a lot on that project perhaps it does give some hope to DS taking over the Supernatural spot. Also true that if they can have many superhero shows, they can also have several soapy supernatural type dramas as well.

Truth be told, I haven't watched anything on the CW in YEARS. I used to watch Supernatural but stopped after about season 4. Imagine my surprise when I realized a few years back that it was STILL on. The CW pretty much lost me as a viewer when it was created and they axed several of my favorite shows (Angel and Everwood to name two) because they were looking to keep shows from both UPN and the WB as well as create new content. A new DS would definitely bring me back to the channel, though I can't say for sure if I'd watch anything else they have to offer. I've considered jumping into the Arrowverse, but it's so vast at this point I'm afraid I wouldn't have time to catch up with everything.

Getting back to DS, I am not looking forward to the constant back and forth arguing that exists online. I remember some very heated discussions popping up around the 2004 pilot and, of course, everyone's favorite movie version of DS from 2012. On the one hand, I suppose that's what keeps this fandom alive--the passionate fanbase. On the other, it can surely be a detriment because there is no way to please everyone. For the good of any future versions of DS, I'm hopeful that something great can be done with the property and that fans can allow that to happen and reserve judgment.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gerard on September 17, 2019, 12:58:26 AM
If this actually comes to fruition and I so much as see ONE palm tree, I'm going to throw my Joesette's Music Box through the TV screen.

Gerard
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 17, 2019, 01:12:41 AM
 [pointing-up]  You do realize that will only hurt you...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gerard on September 17, 2019, 02:37:22 AM
It's the principle of the thing, MB.  Palm trees, palm trees palm trees PALM TREES!

It's Maine!

Gerard
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Brandon Collins on September 17, 2019, 02:09:47 PM
If this actually comes to fruition and I so much as see ONE palm tree, I'm going to throw my Joesette's Music Box through the TV screen.

Completely agree. Between that, and some of the extremely obvious scenes shot during the daylight hours while attempting to block the bright, California sun, those two things alone nearly ruin the 91 show for me whenever I attempt to watch it.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gothick on September 17, 2019, 02:21:13 PM
Ah yes, the little known fact that thanks to technological advances, the Collins family in the 1980s pioneered the commercial growth of date palms in Collinsport... Maine residents found it all baffling, but everybody pretended not to notice.

G.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 17, 2019, 03:12:00 PM
As I often say, considering on the original show the grass is always green and the trees always have leaves, it's unlikely people would find palm trees out of the ordinary.  [ghost_nowink]  [ghost_grin]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on September 17, 2019, 05:05:56 PM
Being from Florida, palm trees don't upset me...lol. Actually, they involve a favorite blooper of mine. In the Bond movie, You Only live Twice there is a supposed Russian space launch but as it goes up, you see palm trees in the background. Big LOL.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gerard on September 18, 2019, 01:32:36 AM
In the classic '76 cinematic version of Carrie, set also in Maine, what does one see in the background, palm trees, palm trees, palm trees, PALM TREES

That's why I liked the '02 version better, filmed in Vancouver.  No palm tre.....oh, you know what I'm saying.

Once again, if I see so much as just one of those things if this gets off the ground, I'm going to you-know-who and get his lawyers on it. 

Gerard
P.S.  Join me in a class-action lawsuit.  We'd clean up. 
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 18, 2019, 01:38:10 AM
Some fans speculate about the new series. I don't really have time to read through all of this, but perhaps it will be of interest to some of you.

I didn't get the chance to read this until a short while ago. I was sad to read: "The show hasn't even been cast and I'm already exhausted from putting out fires online." Though even sadder, it's hardly surprising...

The people commenting in the article have some interesting takes. Not all of them I would want to see happen. But then, it's great to see that fans are engaged and more than willing to share what they might like to see. They have every right to their ideas. Though I just wish the people creating the fires were more willing to let other fans speculate without feeling the need to tear their ideas down and to, instead, disagree civilly or to wait to criticize until after more info is actually known. But having been through the initial reactions to so many previous DS projects, it's more than obvious that just is never going to happen...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gerard on September 18, 2019, 01:40:51 AM
As I often say, considering on the original show the grass is always green and the trees always have leaves, it's unlikely people would find palm trees out of the ordinary.  [ghost_nowink]  [ghost_grin]

MB, are you saying that on the OS, in the middle of a sultry summer where women should've been wearing only slips to offset the heat, Julia was wearing that heavy woolen coat, and during a freezing winter, everyone ran around in sleeveless mini-things wasn't realistic?  Well, at least there weren't palm tre...again, you know what I'm saying.

Gerard
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 18, 2019, 01:40:24 AM
For some reason I suddenly feel the need to say: green grass, green leaves, GREEN GRASS, GREEN LEAVES!!

 [ghost_wink]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Uncle Roger on September 18, 2019, 01:50:50 AM
For some reason I suddenly feel the need to say: green grass, green leaves, GREEN GRASS, GREEN LEAVES!!

 [ghost_wink]


In the immortal words of the late, great Erma Bombeck: The Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Tank.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gerard on September 18, 2019, 01:52:01 AM
MB, back in the '90's, when  lived in Alaska, a friend came to visit me for two weeks, and he'd watch DS with me when it was re-ran on the old Sci-Fi network.  He asked me:  "Why is it always thunderstorming?"  I guess all that rain kept everything green.  Plausible explanation. 

Gerard 
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 18, 2019, 01:54:50 AM
I guess all that rain kept everything green.  Plausible explanation.

Sorry. It rains frequently during the winter in New England. And in all my 60+ years of living here, there has never been one winter season in which the grass has stayed green and the trees have had green leaves.

Try again...  [ghost_wink]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 18, 2019, 01:58:47 AM
In the immortal words of the late, great Erma Bombeck: The Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Tank.

So true!!  [ghost_cheesy]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: B.Collins on September 18, 2019, 03:05:30 AM
this got me excited as well a sequel to the Original show, i do wonder how many of the Original cast is going to do it? i know David Henesy doesn't act anymore but i think it would be really a lot of fun to see him on the new show if and when it does happen. among others who no longer act like Nancy Barrett, well i believe she still does plays but i mean film work or tv work and she hasn't done any since the 80's. 

Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: KMR on September 18, 2019, 04:19:00 AM
i know David Henesy doesn't act anymore but i think it would be really a lot of fun to see him on the new show if and when it does happen.

If he doesn't want to act again, maybe he could just play the proprietor of the diner?  [ghost_grin]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gerard on September 18, 2019, 10:34:15 AM
I guess all that rain kept everything green.  Plausible explanation.

Sorry. It rains frequently during the winter in New England. And in all my 60+ years of living here, there has never been one winter season in which the grass has stayed green and the trees have had green leaves.

Try again...  [ghost_wink]

Well, MB, did your lawn consist of grass carpeting that rumpled up when someone was struggling on top of it, or did your trees have two pieces of plywood that served as roots which showed up when knocked over?  Well, did they?  Hhhmmmm......

I rest my case!

Gerard
P.S.  And don't tell me you had PALM TREES!
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Brandon Collins on September 18, 2019, 01:22:48 PM
I would think that with today's tv/film industry and the various monetary incentives they can take advantage of when filming outside of California, that maybe we won't have to deal with the issue of pal--wait...we won't have to deal with non-indigenous plant life being seen in the scene.

But in all seriousness, if the new show really wants to grab the "look" of the original, perhaps a nice green carpet on a soundstage would do just as well?
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 18, 2019, 01:44:30 PM
This is all getting way off topic, but I will make two points:

The original show may have used artificial grass and trees, however, despite whatever mishap with them might have happened in a scene, a healthy dose of suspension of disbelief was required to still accept them as real. Sure, that may have been a lot to ask an audience, but it's still the case...

But regardless of the original show's use of artificial grass and trees in the studio, there's something that was used by the show that continually depicted real green grass and real green leaves. I'm referring, of course, to the photos that were used as establishing shots for places like the Evans cottage and Collinwood. And those photos were used year-round for spring, summer, fall, and winter. So, besides establishing places like the Evans cottage and Collinwood, they clearly established that real grass remained green year-round and real leaves remained green and on trees (and also on the ivy growing up the sides of Collinwood) year-round...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 18, 2019, 01:46:43 PM
But in all seriousness, if the new show really wants to grab the "look" of the original, perhaps a nice green carpet on a soundstage would do just as well?

They'll never do that, but I love it!!  [ghost_cheesy]

And thanks for bringing the subject back to the potential new show.  [ghost_smiley]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gerard on September 19, 2019, 01:57:00 AM
You know what gets me, MB, with the OS?  It wasn't the outdoor sets that ended up as blooper whoopsies (which we all love).  Even though ABC spent a lot of money on those sets (whether interior or exterior), far above all other soap operas at that time, whoopsies were expected because it's not like DS had the budget of Doctor Zhivago.

What gets me is that in the first several seasons, if it was daytime and characters were outside, it was daylight.  In black-and-white, the background was bright.  In color, the background was blue to look like a day sky.  If it was a night scene, the background was black.  And then, for some unknown reason, those bright or blue backgrounds vanished.  Whether it was two p.m. or two a.m. the background was always black and showed night.  That went on until the fateful day in April '71.  That just drove me nuts.

Well, anyway, back to the original topic, with or without palm trees.  But if I see one, just one, you know what's going to happen.  If this proposed series does happen (I've already stated I'm skeptical), I'll be happy.

Gerard
P.S.  I love palm trees.  I lived in Nevada, California and Arizona.  But they don't belong in Maine.  Get that computer CGI or whatever it's called into operation.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 19, 2019, 03:26:07 PM
Thanks for bringing up this Lost Boys adaptation.

It seems like there's more competition, and this one may be the most like Supernatural:

The CW Developing Ghost Hunting Drama Based on “The Archived” Book Series (https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3584464/cw-developing-ghost-hunting-drama-based-archived-book-series/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 20, 2019, 05:56:08 PM
Two things worth quoting from the following article:

Scott D. Pierce: TV is inundated with reboots. But ‘Saved by the Bell’? ‘Hogan’s Heroes’? No way! (http://)

'Still, I’ve learned to reserve judgment until I actually see a show. Sometimes terrible-sounding ideas turn out to be great TV — like “Buffy the Vampire Slayer.”'

'I’ll admit I was kind of excited to hear that The CW has ordered a pilot script for a “Dark Shadows” reboot. “Hogan’s Heroes,” not so much.'
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 20, 2019, 06:40:03 PM
I've been meaning to get back to the remarks from these posts but didn't get the chance until now.

Although I do have to keep in mind how long the Depp/Burton project took to become reality
Is there enough time to have a new DS ready for air by next fall to take Supernatural's spot in the line up? I know Hollywood can move fast, but I wouldn't want them to do that with the risk of bungling this whole thing.

TV moves much faster than film. For example, the '04 DS pilot was announced in January of '04 and by April it was already being cast and shot. Though in that case the script had already been completed before the initial announcement was made. However, Mark Perry is a seasoned writer and has written for numerous TV series. Writers like that can bang out an excellent script in a week. Not that I'm saying he should be able to do that with his Dark Shadows: Reincarnation script or that he will or has already. But it is possible - particularly considering he already has ideas in mind, so it's not like he'd be sitting in front of a computer screen thinking about where he wants the script to go. And there's even a possibility that he was already working on a script before Deadline broke its story back on the 9th. So, it is also possible that we could be hearing news sooner rather than later about whether or not the script will be moving forward to the pilot stage. However, with that being said, sometimes people wait to make an announcement because they want to do so at a special time and place, which has me speculating as to whether or not the "big announcement" at the Tarrytown Music Hall event might be related to this project, perhaps even that the CW has ordered production of the pilot. We should only be so lucky...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 27, 2019, 06:23:14 PM
Well, we knew it wouldn't be long before someone wrote in somewhere to ask about a new DS:

Q:Is it true they're making another... (http://www.bee-news.com/2019/09/26/celebrity-extra-sept-26-2019/)

Of course, there's nothing we don't already know. But it's nice to questions being circulated...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Uncle Roger on September 27, 2019, 11:51:12 PM
From my neck of the woods too!!
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 13, 2019, 01:54:53 PM
Does anyone know what was said about the pilot at the Tarrytown event yesterday? Apparently it couldn't have been too interesting because it doesn't seem as if there's been any reports on the various online news sites. But then, save for one DS site, there haven't been any formal announcements about the Frid documentary either.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: The Doctor and K9 on October 13, 2019, 04:05:47 PM
I guess all that rain kept everything green.  Plausible explanation.

Sorry. It rains frequently during the winter in New England. And in all my 60+ years of living here, there has never been one winter season in which the grass has stayed green and the trees have had green leaves.

Try again...  [ghost_wink]
Agreed. I grew up in Newport RI. The only green I saw in the winter was this oasis of spring near the heat vents from a laundromat. There was so much warm air, it never froze and you'd see grass and moss. It was bizarre but kind of fascinating. I'd often warm up there after walking from my house to the shopping center that lay about a quarter of a mile away from the laundry.

We'd have warm spells in the winter and frequent thaws. That's why the roads are so bad. I can recall a few times where it was warm enough to go without a jacket. When I was in college I was able to watch Dark Shadows on one of those freaky warm days. It got into the lower 60s and we were picking up a NY channel on VHF. I wondered if I could get New Jersey Network. Good news YES! Bad news, that day's episode was one of a few I already had on VHS! Damn!  But aside from days like that, winters were never warm enough to keep grass green throughout the winter.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gothick on October 15, 2019, 07:45:28 PM
Hi MB, the only other thing about the Sleepy Hollow event I've seen on social media is a characteristic note from KLS expressing delight at the turnout, the event itself, and her intention to do it again next year.

I'm only on a couple of DS groups at this point... perhaps a fan who is on more will have seen something else about the afternoon. But I suspect nothing worth discussing was mentioned, because if it had been, it would most likely be making the rounds by now.

G.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 15, 2019, 08:04:38 PM
I suspect nothing worth discussing was mentioned, because if it had been, it would most likely be making the rounds by now.

Exactly my thought. Presumably the "exciting new project" was the Frid documentary. And I'm sure that is exciting for many fans and I am happy for them. Though as a DS fan who's been one for more than 50 years, and as someone who's already collected all sorts of things about Frid, I suspect there won't be much, if anything, about him in the documentary that I and others like me don't already know, so my excitement level for the documentary's announcement isn't as high as new info on a new project like the pilot would have been. And I should have known through much past experience with these sorts of things that "debut details" was simply code for "all we're going to share is what's already known." Foolish me for letting myself think it might have been otherwise. But there will come a time when we do actually get info that will be new. So I suppose we'll just have to hold out until that time arrives...

Thanks for weighing in, Gothick.  [hall2_smiley]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gerard on October 16, 2019, 01:48:20 AM
Doctor, we've had bizarre winters like that here in Wisconsin.  I remember a Christmas where it was in the sixties.  One year, in February, the temps rose to the sixties and things started to bloom.  Other winters (not Victoria), we'd get pounded by snow and ice and sub-freezing temps and it would stay like that until April.  So I guess Collinsport isn't much different.

Gerard
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 17, 2019, 09:28:16 PM
The pilot's peoducer:

Should Screenwriters Create and Control Their Own Content? (by Richard Botto & Bradley Gallo) (https://www.stage32.com/blog/Should-Screenwriters-Create-and-Control-Their-Own-Content-by-Richard-Botto-and-Bradley-Gallo)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 18, 2019, 02:02:07 PM
I keep forgetting to post about this potential competition for DS:

Walker, Texas Ranger Reboot, Starring Jared Padalecki, Headed to The CW (https://tvline.com/2019/10/11/walker-texas-ranger-reboot-jared-padalecki-the-cw/)

But that's actually given me time to read several different industry impressions of how people think it might fare. Actually, most thoughts seem to fall into two categories. One believes that because Jared Padalecki has been with the CW (and the WB before it) for so many successful years (having been with Supernatural for 15 seasons, and 5 seasons of Gilmore Girls before it) the show is a shoo-in. But there's also the one that believes a show like Walker, Texas Ranger is just too different from the CW's usual brand and that its chances are iffy at the CW and would be better suited for the CW's sister network CBS or even the streamer CBS All Access. I suppose we'll see...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 22, 2019, 09:10:34 PM
More potential competition for DS:

Good Christian Bitches Reboot in Development at The CW (Again!) (https://tvline.com/2019/10/22/gcb-reboot-good-christian-bitches-the-cw/)

I loved the original ABC version. Unfortunately, its humor was probably before its time. And as the article mentions, this is actually the CW's second attempt to adapt it because they tried to do so back in 2018. Maybe the third time will be the charm. Or perhaps not because as I mentioned back in '04 with regard the WB DS pilot, it's always best to keep in mind that probably a good 75% of pilots never see the light of day as series...

But before you start asking yourself why you should have even the slightest hope for a potential DS on the CW, there is something else to keep in mind - something that is very important. Unlike, say, 2018, when the CW renewed its entire slate of shows and didn't need any new shows for its next season, this season the CW has three shows in their final seasons on the network: Supernatural, Arrow, and The 100. So, that means they will need three new shows to replace them - and if they cancel anything, they would need even more...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 26, 2019, 01:30:59 AM
The 100 Prequel Spinoff Eyed at CW (https://tvline.com/2019/10/24/the-100-prequel-spinoff-the-cw-season-7/)

It should be interesting to see how this fares because you may or may not know that neither of the two potential spinoffs of Supernatural ever moved forward...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 29, 2019, 12:23:19 AM
Superman & Lois Series in Development at The CW, Starring Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch — Get Details (https://tvline.com/2019/10/28/superman-lois-lane-series-in-development-the-cw/)

This could be interesting - especially if you were a fan of Teen Wolf and/or Grimm, which I was...

Also take note of the mention in the article of "a backdoor pilot for a Green Arrow and the Canaries spinoff."
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Patti Feinberg on October 29, 2019, 01:37:45 AM

  Call me a pessimist. 

Gerard

pessimist


 [Frank] Patti
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Patti Feinberg on October 29, 2019, 01:46:11 AM
They could film in N.E. GA, more north of where I live.

I believe I've stated on here that once upon a looooong time ago, we were going to move to Maine.

Patti
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 07, 2019, 01:17:47 AM
Female-Led Kung Fu Redo Eyed at CW (https://tvline.com/2019/11/06/kung-fu-female-led-reboot-the-cw/)

Interesting...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Patti Feinberg on November 12, 2019, 04:02:38 PM
I'm sorry, did I miss where it says the time slots of W, TR or DS re-boot?

I would like to see M. Phiffer as a more 'maternal' matriach, like J. Bennett was.

Patti
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 14, 2019, 04:15:40 PM
Basically the same as what we've been saying -

4 upcoming CW series that can fill the Supernatural void coming in May 2020 (https://hiddenremote.com/2019/11/13/upcoming-cw-series-supernatural-void/)

- but it's nice to see someone else saying it too...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 17, 2019, 07:46:04 PM
Dark Shadows Sequel: Has A Release Date Finally Been Set? (https://celebratingthesoaps.com/television/dark-shadows-sequel-has-a-release-date-finally-been-set/)

We may not know much about it, but it's definitely more than a rumor...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Brandon Collins on November 18, 2019, 07:51:55 PM
It's great that there are some many different websites picking up stories about this. It gives a wide variety of people the chance to comment in favor of (but hopefully not against) the idea of a new series. The more online traction this can gain the better for the show, especially at such a youth oriented network like The CW.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 18, 2019, 07:34:24 PM
And another potential series at The CW:

The Game Revival in the Works at CW (https://tvline.com/2019/12/17/the-game-revival-the-cw-season-10/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 29, 2019, 08:14:27 PM
Hopefully in 2020 we'll get some confirmed news as to how this project is progressing. I had honestly thought we would have gotten at least some sort of confirmation about the script moving forward - but then confirmed news about all the potential CW series seems to be mostly nonexistent.

Back in '04 the WB pilot wasn't officially announced until late January, with the casting of many roles beginning to be announced in March, and actual production beginning in April. If the script does indeed move forward to a pilot order, hopefuly news will trickle out in a similar fashion. But until then, here's an opinion piece to read:

Opinion: A New Story Is Best For The CW’s Dark Shadows Reincarnation (http://www.ksitetv.com/dark-shadows/opinion-a-new-story-is-best-for-the-cws-dark-shadows-reincarnation/201644/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Uncle Roger on December 29, 2019, 08:29:09 PM
And how interesting that there is another link to the 2004 pilot. Let's see how long it remains available.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 29, 2019, 09:20:21 PM
 [pointing-up]  Yes, that is interesting - and you pose an excellent question...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 31, 2019, 10:55:02 PM
Opinion: A New Story Is Best For The CW’s Dark Shadows Reincarnation (http://www.ksitetv.com/dark-shadows/opinion-a-new-story-is-best-for-the-cws-dark-shadows-reincarnation/201644/)

Links to this ksitetv.com piece are showing up on several different sites...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 04, 2020, 08:37:50 PM
Some hopes for the new show (https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkShadows/comments/ejnvdx/spoilers_some_hopes_for_the_new_show/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 04, 2020, 08:39:14 PM
And how interesting that there is another link to the 2004 pilot. Let's see how long it remains available.

Well, it's still there...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 05, 2020, 07:46:18 PM
I have no idea what NALIP is (though I do suspect the P stands for Producers), nor do I suspect it matters all that much, but I do find it interesting that Bradley Gallo, who's behind this DS revival, has the hashtag #darkshadowsreincarnation as part of his ID:

BRADLEY GALLO (https://www.nalip.org/bradleygallo)

Clicking the hashtag doesn't seem to bring up much we don't already know. But it could be advantageous to keep an eye on it...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 08, 2020, 02:04:39 AM
Well, things just became a bit harder for a potential DS series to be picked up by the CW -

CW Renews Riverdale, Batwoman, Roswell, Black Lightning Plus 9 Others (https://tvline.com/2020/01/07/the-cw-renewed-shows-2020-list-riverdale-flash/)

- all because of a possible writers' strike come spring. And a strike of that sort, if it were to happen and it were to go on for an extended period, as the 2007/2008 strike did, would most probably push back the debuts of any new series the CW (and any other network) announces in May.

Though there still are a few things to keep in mind:
Even with all these early renewals, presumably, as I mentioned before, the CW would still need replacement shows for Supernatural, Arrow and The 100. And Whose Line Is It Anyway, Burden of Truth, Pandora, Penn & Teller: Fool Us and The Outpost are not among the early renewals so, if any of those series are canceled, that would mean that the CW could possibly have even more openings for new series come May. But that remains to be seen. But even with all that potential, more importantly, we don't even know if Mark Perry's DS script is even going to get a pilot order. If not, then the number of openings the CW might need to fill for next season would be moot so far as we're concerned...

The primary thing we need to do for the time being is remain hopeful that Mark Perry's script gets a pilot order...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Brandon Collins on January 08, 2020, 04:03:49 PM
Thanks for posting this update. I wasn't aware that another writers strike was potentially on the horizon for the coming spring. That will certainly throw a wrench in things. I remember following the previous one from 2008 very closely, and a lot of shows were affected that year, some for the worse. It's possible that if that does happen maybe we can look at the following 2020/2021 season for a pilot order. Wouldn't want to push it back too long though. I always remain hopeful that DS will continue to return to the mainstream.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 10, 2020, 06:32:02 PM
The CW Renews 13 Series for 2020-21, on Track for No Cancellations (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/batwoman-riverdale-flash-10-more-series-renewed-at-cw-1267596)

It's nice to see this article from The Hollywood Reporter mentions "The network's development slate for 2020-21 includes ... a sequel to the 1960s gothic soap Dark Shadows" so at least we know the project is still on track...

I don't know if we should read anything into The Lost Boys not being mentioned. Probably not. But its omission is interesting...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 10, 2020, 07:26:21 PM
Unlike the initial reports, I see where many subsequent reports about the CW's mass renewals are mentioning the DS project as either a "sequel" or "reboot" in development. Though several others are making it sound like DS is already picked up for the 2020-21 season. If only! But we know that's most probably not the case - yet...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 15, 2020, 12:13:09 AM
Well, two less openings for DS:

Jared Padalecki's Walker, Texas Ranger Reboot Ordered to Series at The CW (https://tvline.com/2020/01/14/walker-texas-ranger-reboot-jared-padalecki-series-ordered-the-cw/)

Superman & Lois Ordered to Series at The CW, as Arrow Nears Its End (https://tvline.com/2020/01/14/superman-and-lois-series-order-cw/)

We should hear something regarding DS' fate within the next two weeks...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 15, 2020, 03:42:30 PM
The primary thing we need to do for the time being is remain hopeful that Mark Perry's script gets a pilot order...

If we can judge by this list at The Hollywood Reporter -

TV Pilots 2020: The Complete Guide (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-pilots-2020-complete-guide-1269132)

- as of the publishing of the list yesterday, the script has not gotten a pilot order yet...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 15, 2020, 07:08:30 PM
Their article about the script deal is currently the most commented article on TVLine.com:

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/Comments.jpg)
The article is still the most commented - now with 79 responses...
Still the most commented - now with 95 responses...
Now with 97.

Hmmm - It's interesting that the pickup of Superman & Lois hasn't even made the comments list so far and the pickup of Walker, Texas Ranger, while on the list, is only ranked 4th with only 44 comments.

Just saying...  [snow_wink]


It's also interesting that the subject of a potential DS pops up in the comments section for Superman & Lois:

"Would much rather have the CW pickup shows like Dark Shadows"

And four times in the comments section for Walker, Texas Ranger:

"CW had a number of series I was hoping to see ordered to series–especially Dark Shadows: Reincarnation."

"Dark Shadows sounded pretty good hope it gets picked up."

"Yeah Im hoping to see Dark Shadows"

"I wonder where this leaves the Dark Shadows sequel?"
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Brandon Collins on January 15, 2020, 07:29:00 PM
Glad that people are continuing to show interest in the series online. With the way that viewer engagement is tracked these days, the more online discussion that occurs around this possible new DS series the better. I wouldn't be surprised if DS ended up as a mid-season replacement for the CW if they have a show that isn't working. Not sure how often the CW does that compared to the big four networks, but it's a possibility.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 15, 2020, 07:42:34 PM
The CW definitely does midseason. In fact, sometimes they replace almost half of their series midseason either because they only make 8-13 eps of a show or because they want to give another show a chance. In the latter case the show put on hiatus to make way for the midseason show comes back later in the season.

However, that being said, even if both Superman & Lois and Walker, Texas Ranger debut in the fall, there may still be one more fall opening left...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 15, 2020, 10:28:35 PM
Can't say this article is too encouraging -

The CW’s 2020 Development Slate is Chock-a-Block With Spinoffs and Reboots
The Arrowverse is set to take center stage yet again as The CW prepares its pilot orders for the 2020-2021 season. (https://www.primetimer.com/pilots/blog/the-cw-s-2020-development-slate-is-chock-a-block-with-spinoffs-and-reboots)

- though it is only one woman's opinion. Not to mention it's not likely that she's even read the script and what is publicly known about Dark Shadows: Reincarnation is maddeningly little so, really, what is there for a columnist to work with to make an informed decision?

But just to backtrack a bit, it really isn't all that surprising that the CW ordered Walker, Texas Ranger and Superman & Lois. Both shows come with elements already known to the CW, be they Jared Padalecki's immense popularity at the network or that Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch have already appeared on the network as Superman and Lois in several eps of various shows. The CW has a very good idea what they're getting and those shows won't need a casting process to find their leads. When it comes to many other shows the CW has in development, that's not the case - certainly not when it comes to a potential DS. And as we learned last week, the CW is very wary of a possibly impending writers' strike. So much so that they want to hire writers, prepare scripts, and shoot eps this coming spring (rather than wait until summer when shows normally go into production for the fall). And they can't do that with shows that need pilots shot before any decisions about them can be made - and pilots need to find their casts, they shoot in the spring, and decisions about them aren't normally made until May...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Brandon Collins on January 16, 2020, 03:46:22 PM
Maybe playing the long game is a better option in this instance anyway. Like MB said, with the writers strike a real possibility, wouldn't we rather have things play out slowly and ensure a great product rather than getting something rushed through to series order? Then we might end up in a 04 pilot situation. As long as there continues to be interest in the property, especially online, and people are talking about the possibility of DS coming back, I think there's a good chance that this can stay on the radar of the network execs.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: B.Collins on January 17, 2020, 03:24:57 AM
have they even put out a cast announcement for the sequel series at all?  let alone who's even writing it?
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 17, 2020, 03:52:12 AM
All we actually do know is who's writing it and who's producing it. Go back to the first post in this topic, click on the link, and read the article.  [snow_smiley]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 17, 2020, 07:00:34 PM
Hmmm - It's interesting that the pickup of Superman & Lois hasn't even made the comments list so far and the pickup of Walker, Texas Ranger, while on the list, is only ranked 4th with only 44 comments.

Just saying...  [snow_wink]

Maybe it's just me but I have to say I really am surprised: Superman & Lois peaked in the low 40s after making a very brief appearance on TVLine.com's Most Commented list yesterday and Walker, Texas Ranger peaked at 79 before TVline.com took it off the list today. Superman & Lois doesn't have its own series yet, but like I said, both characters have made several appearances on the CW's most popular current shows - and Jared Padalecki is and has been a hugely popular star on the CW for years. It's absolutely fascinating to me that a show like DS, one that has had such a low profile on TV for so many recent years, was able to garner 97 comments for an article that simply said a script deal had been made, not even a pilot, much less a series deal as was the case with Superman & Lois and Walker, Texas Ranger...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 17, 2020, 11:48:35 PM
Interestingly, this article does mention The Lost Boys as still being in development:

Supernatural's Jared Padalecki Expresses His Gratitude for Walker, Texas Ranger Series Order (https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/2020/01/15/walker-texas-ranger-reboot-the-cw-jared-padalecki-twitter/)

And it also mentions DS...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 19, 2020, 12:26:47 AM
I think they're a little late in getting the news out:

DARK SHADOWS SEQUEL SERIES RESURRECTIONS IN THE WORKS AT THE CW (https://technoea.com/dark-shadows-sequel-series-resurrections-in-the-works-at-the-cw/)

And what's worse, they can't even get the title right!!  [snow_rolleyes]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 19, 2020, 12:31:15 AM
OMG - here's a copy of the same article but on another site:

Dark Shadows Sequel Series Resurrections in the Works at The CW (https://sunriseread.com/dark-shadows-sequel-series-resurrections-in-the-works-at-the-cw/27902/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 19, 2020, 06:27:24 PM
I have no idea what NALIP is (though I do suspect the P stands for Producers), nor do I suspect it matters all that much, but I do find it interesting that Bradley Gallo, who's behind this DS revival, has the hashtag #darkshadowsreincarnation as part of his ID

Apparently, NALIP is the National Association Of Latino Independent Producers. Interestingly, however, I discovered today that Bradley Gallo no longer has a page on their Web site. Who knows why, but I doubt it affects the DS project at all, especially considering that the #darkshadowsreincarnation is still active. In fact, someone posted on the 16th wondering:

Waverider @TimecityZ - Jan 16
Yo @thecw @TheCW_PR  When is Dark Shadows and Kung Fu going to get series orders too? #DarkShadows #Darkshadowsreincarnation #WalkerTexasRanger

I suspect they may be jumping the gun expecting a series order because a more likely order would be for a pilot. And, as I've mentioned before, networks tend to announce their pilot orders by the end of January, which is still almost two weeks away...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 25, 2020, 01:28:43 AM
We may want to keep a lookout on this page:

Pilot Season 2020: Scoop on This Fall's (Possible!) New Shows, Who's In Them (https://tvline.com/2020/01/24/pilot-season-abc-cbs-cw-fox-nbc-2020-2021/4/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Patti Feinberg on January 25, 2020, 04:03:44 AM
Some hopes for the new show (https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkShadows/comments/ejnvdx/spoilers_some_hopes_for_the_new_show/)

Don't necessarily agree; I think it needs to be current.

Yes, we can see certain characters (matriarch Carolyn), but, new characters.
I wouldn't want a new monster each week, let's lead up to it.

And, of course, certain characters could make appearances, or be in on a semi-regular basis.
I personally think David should be out of the picture, in South America (truth/stranger/fiction).

Maybe a nice, elder gentleman who takes Carolyn out to places could be something more than he seems to be.

Maybe a 10-year old & a 15-year old (nieces?), so we'd need a governess.

A grounds keeper, who has all the New England silence & loyalty to Ms. Carolyn.

Patti
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: dom on January 25, 2020, 03:11:52 PM
Patti. David could be in S.A. looking into what happened to his real father... Burke Devlin... bum Bum BUM!!!
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 25, 2020, 03:31:10 PM
Patti. David could be in S.A. looking into what happened to his real father... Burke Devlin... bum Bum BUM!!!

But only if Liz remembered the city was Belem.  [snow_wink]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 28, 2020, 07:14:00 PM
Well, at this point in '04 we already knew that the WB was moving forward with their DS pilot. But apparently the CW is holding whatever their decision will be much closer to their vest when it comes to Mark Perry's script...

If the CW operated like the other networks, we may have actually known their decision a while ago because more than likely they would have had a panel at the TCA (Television Critics Association) Upfronts because that's where/when the networks announce their plans for the next season. But for the second year in a row the CW (and only the CW) did not hold a TCA Upfront panel, mostly because they'd already announced the renewals of most of their shows...

It certainly appears the CW really wants to drag out the suspense when it comes to what pilots they plan to make...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: B.Collins on January 29, 2020, 03:31:11 AM
i just want to know if they are actually going to do it and if what cast will be in it etc.. the usual stuff it really breaks my heart that John Karlen won't be part of it as i'm sure he would have loved to be in it. i would not be surprised at all if he did want to do it.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 29, 2020, 10:44:40 PM
Green Hornet’ Becomes an Independent Superhero as Amasia Entertainment Grabs Franchise Rights (https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/green-hornet-amasia-entertainment-franchise-rights-1202206850/)

Sadly, when it comes to Dark Shadows: Reincarnation, all the article says is that Amasia also has a deal with the CW to develop it...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 29, 2020, 11:22:45 PM
And this one simply says Amasia is also executive producing Dark Shadows: Reincarnation at The CW.

‘The Green Hornet’ Film Rights Scooped up By Amasia Entertainment (https://www.thewrap.com/the-green-hornet-film-rights-scooped-up-by-amasia-entertainment/)

Though neither article really needs to say anything about DS:R at all because it's not what's being announced. But the fact that it is being mentioned is nice.

What might be really interesting to know is if the authors of these articles are bringing DS:R into it on their own or if Amasia is being sure to mention their involvement...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 31, 2020, 02:52:07 AM
Well, the CW has finally ordered two pilots, neither of which is Dark Shadows: Reincarnation:

Female-Led Kung Fu Reboot, Former Sarah Drew Vehicle Get CW Pilot Orders (https://tvline.com/2020/01/30/female-kung-fu-reboot-cw-pilot-order-the-republic-of-sarah/)

The fact that DS:R is not among these two leads me to believe the CW may have some reservations about how the show is developing. However, that doesn't necessarily mean all is lost. Pilot development can often stretch over more than one season. Evidence of that is the fact that the article states:

"The Republic of Sarah, penned by Jeffrey Paul King (Elementary), was originally cast and piloted at CBS last spring, with Grey’s Anatomy doc Sarah Drew as the lead. The CW’s version tweaks the premise slightly"

Though that doesn't necessarily mean there's no chance for this year (or at all). It really all depends. Particularly whether the CW really does have a problem or there's some other reason(s) for a delay in a decision. If it really is a case that the CW may not like something, it may just be a case of can Amasia fix things this year or not (or at all) to bring things around to the CW's liking...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 31, 2020, 03:12:24 AM
Well, at least the good news is there's nothing at the #darkshadowsreincarnation Twitter hashtag that says the project is dead. Nor does a Google search bring up an article like that. In fact a Google search brings up that the project has an IMDb page (which I never even considered it might have). However, details on the project can only be viewed by IMDbPro members. I was a member during development and production of the 2012 DS, but I'm not a member any longer. I can't take advantage of a 30 day free trial because I already did so before I became a member back then. And I don't want to rejoin because there may not really be much of any info there, so paying $19.99 just to have a look-see could prove a waste. But if anyone who has never been a member wants to take advantage of the free trial and then report back, please feel more than free.  [snow_smiley]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 31, 2020, 03:20:00 AM
Several people commenting on the tvline.com article are upset the DS:R project hasn't been ordered to pilot yet, which actually prompted the author of the article, who also happens to be an exec at the site, to remind:

Matt Webb Mitovich says:
January 30, 2020 at 5:29 PM
The CW still has a couple pilots left to order………. It’s [checks calendar] only Jan. 30.

(That 5:29 PM is PT, so if you're ET, it was posted at 8:29.)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on January 31, 2020, 10:04:19 PM
When it comes to Dark Shadows, you can never say never. However, when you factor in the CW renewing almost it's entire lineup, then giving Walker a series order and Kung Fu a pilot order all over Dark Shadows - I'm afraid it's nothing but bad news. Besides the fact the odds were only iffy at best that a spot would be given for DS at CW this year, now I think the script is headed for the shelf ...at least for this year.
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 31, 2020, 11:00:03 PM
Something I didn't realize until I read up on the Kung Fu project, not only did the CW pick up The Republic of Sarah from CBS, where it was developed last year, but it picked up Kung Fu from Fox, where it was also developed last year, so each of those projects had full crews already in place, which, to our knowledge, DS:R does not. So given that, I can now easily understand why both of those projects were given pilot orders ahead of DS:R.

Also, given that the CW supposedly still has openings this year for two more pilots, I wouldn't necessarily count it out as potentially getting one of those openings. But if not, and if the CW is high enough on DS:R, they may hold onto it for somewhere down the road, or even one of the CW's sister networks may move ahead with it. I suppose only time will tell...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 31, 2020, 11:12:04 PM
Also, given that the CW supposedly still has openings this year for two more pilots, I wouldn't necessarily count it out as potentially getting one of those openings.

Or maybe not:

Revamped Lost Boys Among 2 New Pilots Ordered at The CW (https://tvline.com/2020/01/31/the-lost-boys-new-pilot-the-cw-rob-thomas/)

The other pilot ordered is for "the drama Maverick from Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage" (it has nothing to do with the old James Garner series).

And again, The Lost Boys is left over from last year at the CW. I know nothing about Maverick.

If tvline.com is right that the CW only planned to pick up two more pilots, then I guess the only thing we can do now is wait for word from ShadowGram or some other source as to what the future may hold for DS:R. As of right now there's nothing new posted on the #darkshadowsreincarnation Twitter feed...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 31, 2020, 11:28:01 PM
According to this article -

The Lost Boys’ Reboot & First Daughter Drama ‘Maverick’ Get the CW Pilot Orders (https://deadline.com/2020/01/the-lost-boys-reboot-first-daughter-drama-maverick-the-cw-pilot-orders-present-day-america-that-finds-itself-under-authoritarian-rule-1202848153/)

- the CW has indeed ordered all the pilots they are going to this year:

"Like clockwork — the CW once again is done with its pilot orders by Feb.1, doing the bulk of its pickups during the last week of January."
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 01, 2020, 01:36:00 AM
Not a peep out of #darkshadowsreincarnation, Amasia Entertainment, Mark B. Perry, The CW, or warnerbrostv's Twitter feed. Or DarkShadowsNews' Twitter feed.

I don't quite know what that means. Perhaps it's just too early to hear anything...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 01, 2020, 04:08:09 PM
Still not a peep from any of the Twitter feeds I mentioned yesterday. And again people commenting at tvline.com -

Revamped Lost Boys Among 2 New Pilots Ordered at The CW (https://tvline.com/2020/01/31/the-lost-boys-new-pilot-the-cw-rob-thomas/)

- are wondering what the status of DS:R is. One is wondering if it's dead - another is still begging the CW (hoping that they're reading the comments) to pick up DS:R. It's unfortunate that the CW made their announcement of the final two pilot pickups late on a Friday because it may be likely that any sort of official comment regarding DS:R may not be made on the weekend or before Monday. Though if DS:R is still in play in some way, nothing may even be said then because negotiations could be ongoing. It's unlikely that before the CW issued their announcement of the final two pilots TPTB behind DS:R didn't get some sort of notification from the CW that DS:R wasn't getting a pilot order. But who knows if that's the end of it and the CW also informed TPTB that the project is indeed completely dead? Or if in a somewhat similar vein to The Lost Boys, the CW is willing to allow changes for future consideration? Or even if, as I mentioned yesterday, one of the CW's sister networks may be interested? We might have to endure silence on the DS:R front for a while before we find out its official status...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 03, 2020, 12:58:36 AM
It's interesting to see that nearly every entertainment site that I visit regularly (six of them) has at least one comment to its The Lost Boys/Maverick pilot pickup article asking what the status of Dark Shadows: Reincarnation is though no one is asking the status of any of the other potential pilots that didn't get a pickup. If only the CW actually was paying attention to such comments and lack thereof. Though that's most probably very unlikely...
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Post by: patrickm on February 03, 2020, 09:28:06 PM
For some more unrelated bad news, the tvbythenumbers ratings website has shut down...  [offtheair]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 05, 2020, 03:20:07 AM
I think the fact that SHADOWGRAM UPDATE  #433, the first since the CW finalized all its pilots for this year, doesn't mention a thing about DS:R actually speaks volumes...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on February 05, 2020, 04:02:21 AM
Maybe Shadowgram is pulling a Barney Fife and waiting for the official verification before posting anything ... lol.
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 07, 2020, 11:56:08 PM
The CW's Walker Texas Ranger Reboot Casts The 100 Star Lindsey Morgan (https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/2020/02/06/walker-texas-ranger-reboot-casts-lindsey-morgan-cw/)

This article lists DS:R among the projects "still in various stages of development" at the CW - and the fact that we haven't heard otherwise would seem to support that. Though it would just be nice if someone among TPTB or someone representing them actually came out and said so. But it often is the case that TPTB invovled in these things love to remain tight lipped when it comes to how things are developing. And that would certainly seem like the case here because we haven't heard word one since the script deal was announced with great fanfare back in September. And given that fact, it's mostly a case that we all assumed DS:R was being developed for this pilot season. The September Press Release never actually said that. And we know what happens when you assume...

I suppose our mantra needs to be: Patience.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 08, 2020, 12:03:50 AM
Although I do have to keep in mind how long the Depp/Burton project took to become reality

You would seem to be the only one with words of warning that the development of DS:R might take longer than most were expecting...

Though Brandon Collins did wonder if there was enough time for DS:R to be ready for next fall. I honestly did think there was, mostly because I've seen so many other shows do it in as little amount of time. But obviously each case is different. And as Brandon also said, we wouldn't want them to move too fast at the risk of bungling things...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 08, 2020, 12:41:47 AM
Well, this doesn't look good so far as the potential writers' strike goes:

WGA Members Overwhelmingly Approve “Pattern Of Demands” For Contract Talks That Could Spark Industry’s First Strike Since 2008 (https://deadline.com/2020/02/wga-pattern-of-demands-2020-contract-talks-approved-1202854123/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 08, 2020, 04:42:16 PM
Another thing to keep in mind when it comes to the CW - something I alluded to, and something that just came up in TV Critic Matt Roush's Friday Ask Matt column - is that "CW is programming mostly year-round" so new shows can pop up on the network at almost any time of the year. New network programming is no longer limited to just being introduced in the fall or at midseason.

Also, as I also mentioned, the CW, like the streaming services, has many shows that run for 8-13 eps rather than a full 22 eps (or more) season.

Even if DS:R were to get an 8 ep order, I'd gladly take it over not getting any new DS at all...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on February 08, 2020, 06:25:54 PM
Well, I admire your optimism MB, but I really think you're glossing over reality here. Despite the limited number of openings for new shows which worked against Dark Shadows from the get go, the CW didn't just go out of their way not to select DS but REALLY went out of their way not to. Walker was given a series go without even a pilot, Kung Fu was a rejected project from a completely different network for pilot...but worst of all Lost Boys was given a redo for a 2nd pilot -almost unheard of these days. It's pretty clear if they are going forward with a vampire themed project, it's Lost Boys not DS. As for sister networks picking up DS, the CW is a sister network to CBS - which also owns Showtime and CBS Sports channel. In the Viacom merger, CBS just acquired an eclectic bunch of cable channels including TV Land, Comedy Central, Nickelodeon, MTV, VH1, BET and Paramount Network. None of which are even remotely compatible with DS. (Could you imagine DS on BET with Wesley Snipes as Barnabas or moving Collinwood to Nashville for Paramount Network ...lol)

Nobody wants a DS reboot to happen more than me and I feel Perry's project has a lot of promise, it just feels like 1991 all over again. I organized the NBC rally here in Orlando. and with the rallies , letter and phone call campaign, I really thought DS had a good chance of getting renewed. Wrong. It wasn't till after the fact we learned that Warren Littlefield who took over NBC programming from Brandon Tartikoff hated the show and had no intention of renewing it. No matter how big the fan effort was, the fix was in. I get that same feeling now. I looked up what pilot scripts cost and Perry got the standard fee of around $40,000. The cost of shooting a pilot is a million or more, so what the CW has invested to this point is minimal. I would imagine the rights will reverent back to Perry at some point to shop around or just put out there. Networks are copycats, so if Lost Boys makes it to series and does well, DS will get another look see for sure. Otherwise, I think this project is a goner.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 08, 2020, 07:34:08 PM
When DS:R wasn't picked for the last two pilot spots, I was definitely depressed because I also thought it was a goner. But the more time that goes by makes me wonder why no one has said as much. Back when the '04 pilot was passed on, there were all sorts of articles to say so, particularly in places like Variety and The Hollywood Reporter. There hasn't been anything like that. Not to mention there hasn't been a peep from any of the Twitter feeds I mentioned, and Twitter is rarely silent, even when the news is bad. And perhaps more significantly, nothing from ShadowGram - SG was one of the first entities to report that the '04 pilot was dead at the WB, but in this week's SG Update there was nothing mentioned regarding the pilot script's fate.

Rather than seeing it as a bad thing that the two projects from last year were picked over DS:R, I see that as something potentially good because it means that the CW is willing to give projects extended time to develop. And as I said, nowhere did it say in any of the announcements for DS:R that it was being developed for this coming season. That was our assumption - and it was a logical assumption - but that doesn't mean it was a correct assumption. It would be nice if we knew one way or the other, but TPTB are maddening silent when it comes to what's actually going on with the project.

Then there's the article that claims DS:R is still among the projects in various stages of development at the CW. Granted, I might feel more confident if the site saying that was one that's more substantial in online entertainment news. I honestly don't know what comicbook.com's reputation for accuracy is. But for what it's worth, they posted the news of Lindsey Morgan's casting in the Texas Ranger pilot almost 2 days before Deadline.com did, and Deadline.com is a powerhouse site in online entertainment news which generally scoops everyone else. (As an example, let's not forget Deadline.com broke Mark Perry's deal with the CW.)

The truth is I'm not sure what we should believe when it comes to the status of DS:R. But as more time passes without word of its death at the CW (especially no word from places like SG and Twitter), and as circumstances come around to point to how it could potentially still be alive, I'm willing to be more optimistic than pessimistic...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Brandon Collins on February 11, 2020, 09:22:16 PM
I wouldn't necessarily look at Texas Ranger or Lost Boys being picked up as a detriment to a potential DS:R getting the pilot treatment in the future. TR is probably a no brainer for the CW because it's a property with a built in fan base that is going to star an actor from a show with a built in fan base. I'm sure they probably figured no pilot order needed since I'm sure whatever research they've done for how the show is expected to perform has probably placed it about even with the shows they currently air.

As for LB, I think that maybe is a stab at them to revitalize something that has arguably more of a relevant cult following for today's target audience (although that same audience does skew to be older than CW's usual teenage watchers) so maybe they felt it was a better shot at making a successful show compared to something like DS. Then again, I'm sure LB purists are just as hardcore about their fandom as some of our DS fans are, so there's always the chance that the show bombs and makes the CW hesitant to go down that road again.

As for DS, it does have a lot working against it. Two failed television revival attempts (although at least 91 got half a season) and an abysmal 2012 movie outing that was panned by critics and fans alike. The property doesn't really scream "gold mine" at this point, so I'm sure the CW is being careful with how they roll it out, if they intend to do so.

I said it before, and MB mentioned it above, the longer the DS project takes (though not TOO long) the better I'm thinking it will be. We don't want it to be rushed, but we also don't want to wait a decade for it. My hope is that maybe it becomes a mid season replacement and does well enough to garner future seasons. These days a season can be anything, really, from 6-26 episodes depending on the platform or network. There's no hard rules for how to air a show.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 12, 2020, 07:54:55 PM
This article seems like it's just getting around to reporting the initial news (where have they been - plus they also seem like English isn't their first language) instead of indicating DS:R is still in development. But who knows...

Dark Shadows TV Show in Development at The CW (https://checkersaga.com/dark-shadows-tv-show-in-development-at-the-cw/9440/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 22, 2020, 12:31:02 AM
WGA & Big 3 Talent Agencies Agree To Mediation, But Don’t Hold Your Breath (https://deadline.com/2020/02/wga-talent-agencies-agree-to-mediation-caa-wme-uta-1202864861/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 22, 2020, 11:55:25 PM
Writers’ Strike Could Accelerate Scripted Programming’s Decline On Linear Television (https://deadline.com/2020/02/writers-strike-accelerate-scripted-programmings-decline-linear-tv-1202854599/)

The section on the CW is interesting...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on March 14, 2020, 12:34:27 AM
Will WGA Negotiations For New Film & TV Contract Go Forward During Pandemic? (https://deadline.com/2020/03/writers-guild-contract-talks-coronavirus-uncertainty-wga-amptp-1202882529/)

Pilot Season 2020 In Turmoil Due To Coronavirus As Pilots Get Pushed (http://deadline.com/2020/03/pilot-season-2020-turmoil-coronavirus-pilots-pushed-1202882113/)

Maybe it's better that seemingly DS:R may not have been/is not in development for the upcoming season...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 16, 2020, 10:12:46 PM
L.A. Writers Center Announces Webinars BY Writers FOR Writers (https://www.broadwayworld.com/raleigh/article/LA-Writers-Center-Announces-Webinars-BY-Writers-FOR-Writers-20200414)

Well, here's what this reliable site is reporting with regard to Mark Perry:

Mark is currently developing a sequel series to the cult class DARK SHADOWS with Amasia Entertainment and Warner Bros. TV.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 17, 2020, 06:22:54 PM
And an even more reliable site:

Universal & Amasia Entertainment Team Up For ‘The Green Hornet And Kato’ Feature (https://deadline.com/2020/04/universal-amasia-entertainment-team-up-for-the-green-hornet-and-kato-feature-1202910256/)

Amasia will also be executive producing Dark Shadows: Reincarnation for Warner Bros. Television, a sequel series to creator Dan Curtis’ 1960s gothic soap opera.

Deadline is actually one of the most reliable entertainment sites on the Internet...

Of course, it would be nice if we got any sort of word about the project from TPTB themselves. But asking for that is coming off as a broken record at this point - and we probably shouldn't hold our breaths - particularly during the current pandemic...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 17, 2020, 06:45:23 PM
And here we have Variety chiming in:

‘Green Hornet and Kato’ Movie Project Lands at Universal Pictures (https://variety.com/2020/film/news/green-hornet-kato-movie-universal-1234582372/)

Amasia is executive producing “Dark Shadows: Reincarnation” for Warner Bros. Television
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 17, 2020, 07:19:10 PM
Of course, it would be nice if we got any sort of word about the project from TPTB themselves.

Hollywood from Home: Zoom Event with Bradley Gallo of Amasia Entertainment (https://ermantourage.ticketleap.com/bradley-gallo/dates/Apr-30-2020_at_0200PM)

Hmmm - maybe someone who attends on April 30th will ask him about DS:R...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 22, 2020, 10:58:03 PM
It's probably a blessing that DS:R was not ready for consideration this past January:

Pilot Season 2020 Remains In Limbo As Networks Mull Straight-To-Series Orders (https://deadline.com/2020/04/pilot-season-2020-limbo-networks-mull-straight-to-series-orders-pilot-panic-1202914365/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 24, 2020, 06:40:47 PM
WGA West Chief David Young Calls AMPTP “Despicable” As Sides Squabble Over Start Date For Contract Talks (https://deadline.com/2020/04/wga-west-chief-calls-amptp-despicable-ahead-of-contract-talks-1202916139/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=exacttarget&utm_campaign=Deadline_BreakingNews&utm_content=202777_04-23-2020_headline&utm_term=2367481)

Something that's quite possible is that Mark Perry can't even officially work on DS:R while all of this is going on. I do recall that writers couldn't work on projects during the 2007-08 strike. Though that didn't stop then and doesn't stop now from working unofficially...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 24, 2020, 06:58:06 PM
And another mention of DS:R:

The Green Hornet and Kato Movie in the Works at Universal (https://www.d1softballnews.com/the-green-hornet-and-kato-movie-in-the-works-at-universal/)

...and the company is also developing the television series Dark Shadows: Reincarnation, which follows on the order paper gothic opera of the 1960s
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Post by: Gothick on April 25, 2020, 03:15:11 AM
"order paper gothic opera"? That's a new one on me.

G.
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 25, 2020, 03:29:18 AM
Yeah, that was a head scratcher for me too...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 01, 2020, 07:40:05 PM
The latest in the continuing saga:

WGA & AMPTP Agree To Extend Current Film & TV Contract; Bargaining To Start Week Of May 11 (https://deadline.com/2020/04/wga-amptp-agree-to-extend-current-film-tv-contract-bargaining-to-start-week-of-may-11-1202922739/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 11, 2020, 06:57:59 PM
An update:

Start Of WGA Contract Talks With AMPTP Delayed Until May 18 (https://deadline.com/2020/05/start-of-wga-contract-talks-with-amptp-delayed-until-may-18-1202930655/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on May 13, 2020, 04:05:34 AM
It was just announced that the CW greenlit both Kung Fu and Republic of Sarah to series. To me it was nothing but bad news when a rejected project from another network Fox Kung Fu was greenlit for a pilot and Dark Shadows was bypassed. This is the clincher that they preferred an outside project from another network vs. a pilot script that they themselves commissioned. Ouch. Even if production is delayed by virus or writers strike, Kung Fu is proceeding... Dark Shadows is not. This was the final nail in the coffin for any future development at CW for Dark Shadows. Expect an announcement from Perry in the near future.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 13, 2020, 05:50:22 AM
Back in January Kung Fu and Republic of Sarah were already out of development and had been picked as being among the projects that were supposed to go to pilot for the upcoming season (along with all the others that we've posted as having gotten pilot pickups). On the other hand, back in January when pilot pickups were all announced, DS:R was never among the projects in the running as a potential series for the upcoming season. However, and more importantly, it has subsequently been mentioned on several occasions by reputable sources that DS:R is still in development. DS:R hasn't been bypassed for the upcoming season because it's never been in the running. Kung Fu and Republic of Sarah being picked up as series by the CW, just like the other projects that have been picked up as series, have no bearing on DS:R's status whatsoever. All the projects with pilot pickups and DS:R have been on two different tracks at the CW. The projects with pilot pickups were being considered for series, but DS:R hasn't even reached that point because it's still in development.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on May 13, 2020, 06:34:59 AM
Maybe you should read this article written by Mark on all the various pilot scripts that he wrote and were rejected.

http://markbperry.wordpress.com/2018/02/01/rest-in-peace/

Despite your optimism, I have no doubts Dark Shadows Resurrection is now squeezed into the file drawer pictured. What more development can be done with a pilot script - they don't just sit around for two years waiting to be made into a pilot. If they had wanted to proceed, it could have been green lit like Walker. In 3 months, the next batch of show pitches and pilot scripts will be ordered for 2021. The CW will have moved on.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 13, 2020, 06:42:30 AM
I will definitely read the article once I get a chance. However, one thing to keep in mind is that not even a month ago I shared links to several reports from reputable sources that DS:R was still currently in development at the CW, so apparently development can go on for quite some time...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on May 13, 2020, 07:13:23 AM
Tell that to Chuck Lore .... all he has to do is cough and his project goes straight to series at CBS. Sometimes no pilot or even pilot script required, just a concept based on his track record and the sitcom  project is green lit. CBS doesn't want him going anywhere.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 14, 2020, 10:26:58 PM
An Update that seems to confirm what we've been learning from recent articles:

Arrow Spinoff, The 100 Prequel Still Under Consideration at The CW (https://tvline.com/2020/05/14/green-arrow-and-the-canaries-spinoff-status-cw/)

'Similarly, the long-gestating, oft-revisited The Lost Boys pilot has been “rolled” to the next development cycle, while the Dark Shadows sequel announced in September has yet to make it to the pilot stage.'

Why is DS:R's development taking so long? Hell if any of us know! As I've been lamenting, beyond the largely heralded September announcement and the reports as recent as less than a month ago that it's still in development, forget any sort of details, there hasn't even been word one since September. Though I'm sure that once they're ready to tell us something, they will. Just who knows when that will be? And who knows if Mark Perry has even written a completed script? (Or if he has but he's been making changes requested by the CW and/or fellow producers?)  But then, as bad as we might think things may have been for us, think of what it's been like for fans of The Lost Boys because apparently now they'll be waiting for 3 years to see if that project moves forward to series...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 17, 2020, 11:36:52 PM
updates from The CW (https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a32484390/green-arrow-canaries-the-100-prequel-updates/)

"He reassured The 100 viewers, too, that its prequel series is still in development, as is The CW's Dark Shadows sequel."
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 22, 2020, 10:04:45 PM
WGA Proposes “Tiered Bonuses” For Streaming Residuals In Contract Talks With AMPTP (https://deadline.com/2020/05/wga-proposes-tiered-bonuses-for-streaming-residuals-in-contract-talks-1202941888/)
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 27, 2020, 10:42:06 PM
Thought some people might be interested in this:

Making Movies is Hard: Episode 260 - Creating a Sustainable Career Making Feature Films with Bradley Gallo! (https://www.bloodstreammedia.com/episodes/episode-260-creating-a-sustainable-career-making-feature-films-with-bradley-gallo)

I haven't had the chance to listen to it...
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Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on June 01, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
This article seems to imply that The CW has already decided to produce DS:R.

Could The CW Renew Swamp Thing or iTell Me a Story?
With The CW broadcasting episodes of Swamp Thing and Tell Me a Story, the door is open for the network to renew the shows. (https://www.cbr.com/cw-renew-swamp-thing-or-tell-me-a-story/)

That would be nice if it was true. But as we all know the truth is DS:R is still in development...

(I can't speak about Swamp Thing because I've never watched that, but I can definitely recommend Tell Me a Story. However, I would recommend watching it on Netflix because I strongly suspect an edited version of the show will be shown on The CW.)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gothick on June 23, 2020, 06:13:05 PM
Perhaps already posted in this very long thread--I just noticed that popular DS blogger Danny Horn offered his thoughts on the "reboot" (which is now completely dead in the water, along with all other current TV production, not to mention projects such as this that are not on any schedule currently pending) here:

https://darkshadowseveryday.com/2019/10/02/episode-1170/

G.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on June 23, 2020, 06:48:23 PM
Believe it or not, some shows are actually coming back from the dead. One of CBS soaps has begun production with the other planning to go back into production in July. And a few primetime TV shows that shoot in Vancover are also making plans to get back to work in July. But while California's Governor Gavin Newsom issued guidelines for restarting film and TV production and said it could begin as early as June 12th, I haven't seen where any primetime shows have actually gone back to work yet. They're probably still working out the logistics...

The good thing about DS:R is that according to several reliable sources we know that it's still on the CW's development slate. Though as I often lament, when we might find out what's actually going on is anyone's guess. Plus, so far as I've seen, a potential writers' strike is not 100% out of the realm of possibility. Progress has been made, but the finale deals have yet to be worked out...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on June 25, 2020, 05:58:55 PM
Now that CA has seen a spike in its cases, one does have to wonder how many shows will move forward with production? Apparently many of the cases are due to people attending large family gatherings, which people should be refraining from doing. And what is production of a TV show if it isn't akin to a large family gathering? However, the CBS soap The Bold and the Beautiful hasn't shut down production and has put out a statement that any reports to the contrary are false...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on June 26, 2020, 10:47:30 PM
Well, now I see where General Hospital has announced it's going back into production in July.

It will definitely be interesting to see if any of these shows announcing July production starts actually go back into production then...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 20, 2020, 06:44:52 PM
COULD DARK SHADOWS BE BROUGHT BACK THROUGH A SPIN-OFF? (https://www.bitchute.com/video/AQMi8vEBe2WZ/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on July 20, 2020, 07:43:56 PM
Was this guy intoxicated?
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 20, 2020, 07:48:08 PM
I don't think so - all of his videos that I've received alerts for are basically just like that one. He seems like he just starts speaking off the cuff with just a basic plan of what he wants to say.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on July 20, 2020, 08:09:07 PM
Well, you had me on this one. From the header, I thought it was coming from one of those "respected sources in the industry" not from a guy who looks like he spends too much time in his mom's basement.... I know mean but ... I m surprised he didn't say let's do a reboot of Cheers but have it set in the Blue Whale.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 27, 2020, 03:55:28 PM
I guess the author of this is unaware that DS:R is in development from Warner Bros for the CW...

7 Horror Movies Warner Bros Could Turn into HBO Max Series (https://nerdist.com/article/7-horror-series-hbo-max/)

Though HBO Max could be an interesting home...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Brandon Collins on August 27, 2020, 08:16:06 PM
I like the HBO Max idea. Really, any streaming service would allow the series to conquer more adult topics without having to bend to the will of primetime censors. They could also do a darker take than what the CW is after, I'm sure.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 09, 2020, 11:10:48 PM
I do have to say it's a bit frustrating that here we are exactly one year after the pilot deal announcement, which was made with great fanfare and which generated a great deal of attention, particularly on sites like TV Line (where for several days it remained their most commented on article), and we basically don't know any more info than we received in the announcement from Mark B Perry. There's hold things close to the vest and then there's complete and total radio silence. If it wasn't for the occasional tidbit that the project is still in development, the latest of which we received via the Saturday Evening Post article that I posted a link to the other day -

Vampire Soap Opera Dark Shadows Crept into Film 50 Years Ago
Television horror pioneer Dan Curtis turned a dream into a surprise hit series, and then took it to the movies. (https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2020/08/vampire-soap-opera-dark-shadows-crept-into-film-50-years-ago/)
Quote
Since the fall of 2019, Warner Bros. Television and The CW have been developing a sequel to the original series, tentatively titled Dark Shadows: Reincarnation. Dan Curtis passed in 2006, but his daughters Tracy and Cathy hold the rights to the series and are involved in the production of the potential new version.

- we wouldn't have heard anything over the past year. And that seems odd given the fanfare and the online support the project would seem to have. But who knows, apparently TPTB are keeping tight lipped for whatever good reason(s) they may have and despite how odd it may seem to us. Though having a good deal of the development occur during a pandemic most probably doesn't help...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on November 07, 2020, 05:46:53 PM
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2096721149854/dark-shadows-restart-series-no-longer-in-development-at-the-cw


Despite what the "reputable" sources kept saying, I was right months ago that the pilot project was a goner and that the so called "in development" was nonsense. Hope we can finally put that to bed.  Like I said previously, the CW greenlighting Lost Boys to a 2nd pilot was bad enough, but picking up a rejected project like Kung Fu  from another network rather than greenlighting a pilot from an in house CW project like DS spoke volumes. I don't take any pleasure in being right though. Hopefully, Mark Perry will eventually put the script out there so fans can judge for themselves what his vision was like.

Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 07, 2020, 06:34:44 PM
This has actually been posted about in the "Halloween night DS Cast Reunion - The Quarantine Theatre Company" topic because Gothick posted there about how the subject of the CW passing on the pilot came up during the reunion. And then shortly thereafter the TV Line article that the linked article you posted used as a source came out and I posted the link to it over there in that topic as a follow up. However, we don't really know when the CW ultimately completely passed on the project. We can assume it was back in December/January, but we can't know that for sure because, with the pandemic, the CW was still deciding the fates of projects long after that, so that doesn't necessarily mean that even the report that DS:R was still in development at the CW as late as back in May was wrong. By example, one of the CW's proposed series which also never made it to the pilot stage was only passed on a few months back. But be all that as it may, the project may be a goner as far as the CW is concerned, however, it doesn't seem as if it's a goner entirely because Gothick also shared that during the reunion Ansel Faraj made the claim the project is still being worked on. By whom and in what form? Who knows? Like everything else concerning the project after that initial announcement back in September of 2019, details are lacking. I mean, as far as that original deal goes, we don't even know if Mark Perry even completed a script.  [hall2_rolleyes]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on November 07, 2020, 07:59:55 PM
Well, I wanted the reply to be under the proper post.

Say what you will about the pilot being "in development", if you look back at those respected sources, every article said the same thing almost word for word verbatim. Like one printed it and all the others went with it without fact checking or developing their own sources. Call me cynical, but I believe someone in CW program development fed it to one of them as a CYA measure and the rest ran with it. Network bosses don't like outside projects getting approved over in house developed projects they themselves invested in. It's like they have no faith in their own network program developers judgement - especially if the outside projects turn out to be hits. If Kung Fu is a success, look out. That results in what Major Hochstetter says ... Heads will Rolllllllll.

So I firmly believe it was all over when CW passed on greenlighting a filmed pilot. Same as NBC in 1991 saying no decision had been made on renewing the DS remake series . WRONG. Warren Littlefield head of NBC programming hated the show and it was cancelled - they just didn't announce it.

And yes, I do believe there is a complete pilot script. It is sitting in Mark Perry's crammed file cabinet with all his other "rejected babies." Look back at the article written by Perry farther back in this thread for reference. It is very illuminating on the actual pilot process.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 07, 2020, 08:56:16 PM
Network bosses don't like outside projects getting approved over in house developed projects they themselves invested in.

Warner Bros Television is in house for the CW.  [hall2_smiley]

Check out: The CW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_CW)

And Bradley Gallo's Amasia Entertainment was working in conjunction with WBT - Amasia Entertainment wasn't working as an independent production company. Though the point is moot now...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: patrickm on November 07, 2020, 10:56:49 PM
I get that the C is CBS and the W is Warner Bros.  I know it is one thing to pick up a rejected project like Sarah from CBS or a cancelled show years ago like Supergirl from CBS - they might consider it a step up in quality getting a show from the parent network. But it is something else to pick up even a Warner project like Kung Fu from the Fox network. It wasn't developed at the CW.  The DS project was also a Warner Bros. proposed production developed in house at the CW. I realize every show on CW is CBS or Warner produced.
I meant picking up a project from a competing network as the outside project. We just seem to be butting heads over the when's of a rejection decision and how's of "in development". Like you say, in the end it doesn't matter now anyway.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 07, 2020, 11:24:16 PM
I'm not trying to butt heads. I'm just saying we don't know what we don't know. And when it comes to this project, what we don't know is a hell of a lot.  [hall2_wink]  (And we're not the only ones frustrated by that because just look at the comment from TV Line that I posted yesterday in the "Halloween night DS Cast Reunion - The Quarantine Theatre Company" topic...)

If the project really is still alive in some form as per Ansel Faraj, I'm holding out even less hope of learning what's going on. At least when it was connected to the CW there was a likelihood of getting a status report whenever they publicly update their slate of projects. But it would seem whatever may be happening now is happening independently of any network and that type of project doesn't necessarily get a status update. Or at least it doesn't get something like a yearly status update like the networks normally give for their projects.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 08, 2020, 02:30:52 PM
Warren Littlefield head of NBC programming hated the show

It can never be said often enough that Warren Littlefield acted like a complete idiot when it came to the '91 Series.  [hall2_rolleyes]

We've talked about this before and it's definitely OT for this thread but quite possibility the worst thing when it comes to Littlefield is that once he finally saw the error of his ways, it was too late. For several seasons after the '91 Series' cancellation everything Littlefield scheduled on Friday's in DS' slot did terribly. That finally made him realize that despite his dislike for the show, DS had had great demos, and he approached DC about reviving the show as a series of made-for-TV movies, similar to what NBC was doing with Perry Mason. But DC's response, in the rather colorful language that DC was known for, was that he wasn't interested. And beyond the fact that DC felt Littlefield had already screwed him and DS over, DC also felt DS is best done as a continuing serial and wouldn't work as a series of self-contained movies. Perhaps. But, sadly, and mostly because of DC's rightful resentment of Littlefield, we never got the chance to know...

Another sad thing which is also OT for this thread is that the WB also came to see the error of their ways when it came to passing on the '04 pilot. But again, it was a realization that was too late in coming. Though unlike the situation with Littlefield, the exec who had passed on DS had been fired, and it was a totally different regime that realized the error of his ways.

But bringing things back to being on topic, will we hear down the road that the CW might one day regret passing on DS:R? Well, that's anyone's guess...  [hall2_wink]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gothick on November 08, 2020, 07:20:23 PM
A few weeks ago, I was talking to a friend who was involved in the production of the 2004 pilot. (Due to the need for confidentiality, I am unable to say more about the person's identity.) He told me that the original director assigned to the production had to bail at the last minute, and the new director they brought in knew REALLY, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Dark Shadows--or seemingly anything horror related. To give examples, the new director, who evidently had not read the script, was under the impression in an early production meeting that Willie and Angelique were both vampires. When brought to a meeting with Alec Newman in costume, the director snapped "get rid of that stupid cane and that ring." It was the task of some supremely tactful individual to explain to the director the significance of these accessories in the Barnabas costume.

My friend said that working on the pilot was very frustrating--and the director was not good even in what he demanded of Blair Brown (and we've seen the results of that). On the up side, my friend did quite like Alec Newman, both as a person and what he did in the role.

He also shared some insights into the makeup and costuming of the 1991 series--he agreed to me that the Barnabas makeup was awful, both Vampire Barnabas especially in the 1790 scenes, and Old Barnabas. He said the makeup people assigned were not up to date and did not know what they were doing.

G.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Uncle Roger on November 08, 2020, 07:48:39 PM
One of my friends made the observation that when the Ben Cross Barnabas went into vampire mode, he looked remarkably like Al Bundy on Married With Children. And perhaps someone should have told Ben that it's difficult to hiss like that and still try to come across as masculine.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 08, 2020, 07:58:00 PM
The hissing and snarling was all DC's idea. Supposedly DC felt it made VampBarn look more animalistic. I've always thought it was more ridiculous than animalistic (and as I've often commented before, it's one of the very few things I dislike about the '91 Series). But how often has it been mentioned here on the forum that many of us believe DS was successful in spite of DC, not because of him...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Gothick on November 08, 2020, 08:17:50 PM
The unacknowledged truth about Dan Curtis's career may have been that SUPERTRAIN was the most characteristic embodiment of his unique vision. Grayson did tell the radio interviewer in 1968 that Dan had "a unique genius for spook." I personally think Dan's best film was BURNT OFFERINGS.

G.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Robot_Quentin on November 13, 2020, 04:37:52 AM
Dark Shadows Reboot Reportedly Dead at The CW

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/dark-shadows-reboot-reportedly-dead-at-the-cw/

Again, as discussed earlier in the thread, not sure of their track record of accuracy on these things...  [hall2_cry]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: michael c on December 20, 2020, 07:27:42 PM
Covid shut down production of most film and television around the world for months on end. perhaps this attempted revival fell prey.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 09, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
The 4400 Reboot Gets Straight-to-Series Order at The CW (https://tvline.com/2021/02/09/the-4400-cw-series-order/)

Apparently some DS fans can't let go of the CW dropping DS:R.

"Michael Bailey says:
February 9, 2021 at 11:04 AM
After pulling the rug out from under fans TWICE announcing Dark Shadows projects, this is the best they can do? What’s next a bold new imagining of “my mother the car”?"


Though I'm sure many of us can relate - though we're trying to move on...

I was a big fan of the original The 4400, so I have to admit I'm really curious to see what the CW will do with their version. And note that the article says this project had been in development for more than two years. Plus this version is even moving forward with a different creative theme. Not that we should read anything into that concerning DS:R. But recall we were told that in some fashion still left to our imaginations DS:R is still being worked on, so who knows if one day we may get a shock that the CW is giving it a second look like they have The 4400, which was also supposedly dead there...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 29, 2021, 05:46:14 AM
Pilots We Wish Had Been Ordered to Series: DARK SHADOWS: REINCARNATION (The CW, 2019) (https://tvline.com/lists/cancelled-pilots-beverly-hills-cop-cruel-intentions-photos/jane-the-novela-the-cw-2019/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 29, 2021, 04:52:01 PM
A comment:

      Ric says:
April 29, 2021 at 5:23 AM
Dark Shadows should still be made. Would be a great fit for Netflix. Gothica sounds good too
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 29, 2021, 11:33:32 PM
Another comment:

      Vi says:
April 29, 2021 at 3:20 PM
I was really excited about Dark Shadows. Bummed it wasn’t picked up.
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 22, 2021, 12:36:57 AM
Apparently I've been so consumed with doing things for NoDS' 50th that I totally missed this two days ago:

“Dark Shadows: Reincarnation” – Mark B. Perry Reveals the Sequel Series That May Still Come to Life [Phantom Limbs] (https://bloody-disgusting.com/exclusives/3679280/dark-shadows-reincarnation-mark-b-perry-reveals-sequel-series-may-still-come-life-phantom-limbs/)

Finally, some of an idea of what we might expect!! Sounds intriguing...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 24, 2021, 02:42:05 PM
I just checked my e-mail and Google Alerts are definitely slipping behind the times because I didn't receive an alert for Bloody Disgusting's Mark B. Perry article until 6:30pm last night, fours days after it had been posted. There was a time when alerts came in well under 24 hours of things being posted on the Internet, if not within a few hours...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Robot_Quentin on September 15, 2021, 09:31:25 PM
Apparently I've been so consumed with doing things for NoDS' 50th that I totally missed this two days ago:

“Dark Shadows: Reincarnation” – Mark B. Perry Reveals the Sequel Series That May Still Come to Life [Phantom Limbs] (https://bloody-disgusting.com/exclusives/3679280/dark-shadows-reincarnation-mark-b-perry-reveals-sequel-series-may-still-come-life-phantom-limbs/)

Finally, some of an idea of what we might expect!! Sounds intriguing...

Really a great story of pitching a TV show, and to have Dan Curtis' daughter as part of the story is really heartwarming.  [love7]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Josette on September 16, 2021, 08:38:25 AM
Wow!  So interesting - and it really sounds like it might still happen.  His background with the show and what is written here sounds very promising!!!
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Robot_Quentin on September 17, 2021, 12:00:49 AM
IF this happens, I might even watch the last DS episode!  [ghost_cheesy]
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 21, 2021, 09:34:32 PM
This isn't directly connected to DS:R - but it is directly connected to Mark Perry and his work on Revenge, which, as I've mentioned in an earlier post, we should only be so lucky DS:R gets to be plotted as intricately and brilliantly if it should ever come to be...

Revenge’ 10 Years Later: Creator Mike Kelley Reflects on Reviving the Primetime Soap (https://www.tvinsider.com/1014802/revenge-abc-pilot-season-1-legacy-mike-kelley/)
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: B.Collins on October 08, 2021, 02:51:47 AM
i do hope this sequel show is made i hadn't heard anything about it since before Covid Hit to be honest. i just assumed it was still in Development and still in finding the right script to use but that's my own guess cause last i heard the CW was gonna do it
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 06, 2021, 06:39:14 PM
It's quite interesting how often in the past few years the CW has spent years developing something only to decide not to move forward with it. Just the latest:

The 100 Prequel Not Moving Forward at The CW, After 2 Years in Development (https://tvline.com/2021/11/05/the-100-prequel-spinoff-cancelled-the-cw/)

Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 04, 2022, 11:10:02 PM
If you have any interest in the DS:R project, you definitely need to check this out:

Terror at Collinwood Episode 20: Dark Shadows: Reincarnation with Mark B. Perry

I haven't finished watching the whole thing yet, but it's filled with very interesting info about what this show could be and PennyDreadful certainly asks the questions we would all ask...
Title: Re: **‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood As CW, Warner Bros Television Set Pilot Script Deal**
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 12, 2023, 08:29:14 PM
Inside Line: Scoop (https://tvline.com/lists/fire-country-season-2-spinoff-spoilers/euphoria-season-3-angus-cloud-fez/)
(Scroll down to the 18th question.)

Seemingly the person answering the question isn't aware that the project is still active and there are still hopes for it to find a home. But then, the person asking about it probably should have framed their question that way. If so, they may have gotten a better answer...
Title: Who is...
Post by: Patti Feinberg on January 27, 2024, 01:09:46 AM
Mark B. Perry?
What has he have to do with DS?
Will there be a reboot?

Inquiring minds want to know, and even I am also.

Thank you!

Patti
Title: Re: Who is...
Post by: McTrooper on February 18, 2024, 09:34:53 PM
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/dark-shadows-reincarnation-in-development-at-the-cw.3089886/
#1 · Sep 10, 2019
‘Dark Shadows’ Gets New Blood With Sequel Series In the Works At the CW From Writer Mark B. Perry

Is it old news resurfacing? Seems odd that there would have even been that 2019 attempt, since they already had a failed pilot in the early 2000’s  . . .  CW is the same as The WB right? 

I think I’d prefer an inspired by effort rather than a continuation or a reboot.  Not that I didn’t really enjoy 1991  . . . It is just reboot fatigue and fears about botching up something.