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Title: Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Patti Feinberg on May 22, 2003, 12:46:30 AM
Okay...maybe I shouldn't....but....


who's worse:




Roger Davis

or

Chris Pennock????


I MEAN ON DS...NOT IN REAL LIFE.

Patti
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 22, 2003, 01:00:18 AM
Well, for overall characters and time spent on DS, I'd have to go with RD's body of work. Truly frightening! [shockeyes]


However, if we're talking about one single role, well, hands down in my estimation the "honor" would have to go to:
[puke] Jebez "Cheap, Insufferable Pig" Hawkes!

(But after Jeb, CP turns in some truly incredible characterizations, chief among them Gabriel Collins in the 1840 storyline. [thumb])
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on May 22, 2003, 01:25:36 AM
Roger Davis. Christopher Pennock improved with time. I've seen him in 10 or so episodes of early 1840 and he's really good as Gabriel...he made me hate Gabriel so much lol. I always wished Samantha would slap him a dozen times. Now with Roger Davis, I wished I could slap him (well his characters) a hundred times.
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Patti Feinberg on May 22, 2003, 01:39:43 AM
Funny...I've only seen the 1970PT & 1840 once, so I HATED!! CP with a passion...maybe this time around, it'll be 'fun' to hate his characters.

Patti

PS...VictoriaWintersRox...nice pic ;)
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: TERRY308 on May 22, 2003, 05:51:07 AM
ROGER DAVIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God in Heaven, forgive me, but (in the words of Vicki Winters) I can't stand him.  It's like everytime he's on, I feel like I'm going to throw up. [puke]

"My hair, Oh God, my hair"
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: The Ghost of Sarah Collins on May 22, 2003, 06:24:07 AM
I must admit that I do not care in the least for Jebez Hawks, he loves to run both hands into Carolyns hair so much her face is hidden! she is so small I wonder if he is hurting her in some way.

although as Gabriel Collins CP's performance does improve, as does his other characters.

But as to who is worse? on DS of course...sorry to say it must be RD  :-[

  Sarah's [ghost]
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Cassandra on May 22, 2003, 08:36:54 AM
JEFF CLARK, PETER BRADFORD, NED STUART, CDT,[/b] The whole lot of them!!  So R.D. wins hands down![puke]

As irritating as Jeb is his character is still fairly new on the scene and to tell you the truth I think I've seen enough of R.D's characters!  I haven't seen enough of C.P's characters to really say how much worse he can get.   One things for sure though, at least Jeb doesn't scream all day at Carolyn the way Jeff Clark did at Vicky.[argue]
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: jennifer on May 22, 2003, 03:26:51 PM
i have to say that i hated Jeb more than all RD's role combined
but CP did get better with time as stated above so for me
it's a tie!

jennifer
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Julia99 on May 22, 2003, 05:08:04 PM
Mr. Roger Davies  gets my vote as worst. . i don't think I've truly liked any of his characters . . .
[/b]
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Gerard on May 22, 2003, 05:53:09 PM
Oh, without a doubt, Roger Davis.

Gerard
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Gothick on May 22, 2003, 07:04:53 PM
Davis wins hands down. Pennock had several extraordinarily good scenes over time on the show.   Plus I thought he was damn sexy, while Davis is simply ... nauseating.

Gothick
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Luciaphile on May 22, 2003, 08:42:56 PM
Roger Davis. Hands down.

I think the key for me is that Davis played about 4 or 5 parts. Each and every one of them was pretty much the same. Ranting, shoving the co-stars out of the frame, and hair grabbing gets old real fast.

Pennock is admittedly pretty bad as Jeb, but he improves dramatically with his successive characterizations, which are not only distinct, but highly memorable.

[spoiler]After all, who could forget the bit where he's playing Cyrus and he licks Maggie's hairbrush. It's gross and yet riveting. Plus, his characterization of Gabriel is really something to see.[/spoiler]
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Misty on May 22, 2003, 10:54:26 PM
 8) RD, no doubt. Chris P. really does a great job as Gabriel and I especially liked him as the Hyde character, although I don't remember the name. He was sooooo EVIL!!! To me he opened up a whole new dimension in the concept of evil.
                                                          Misty
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Gerard on May 23, 2003, 12:34:39 AM
Oh, Luciaphil, you hit the nail right on the head!  Pennock has some mighty good scenes in his other characters [spoiler]even though I hated the PT1970 Jekyll and Hyde schtick[/spoiler].  As for poor Roger Davis, I didn't like a single character he played, nor his thespian ability.

Gerard
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Luciaphile on May 23, 2003, 02:21:00 AM
Oh, Luciaphil, you hit the nail right on the head!  Pennock has some mighty good scenes in his other characters [spoiler]even though I hated the PT1970 Jekyll and Hyde schtick[/spoiler]

I hated most of PT 1970, so I tried to take my pleasures where I could find them, lol.

[spoiler]When you got past the horrors of the fake nose and that shoe polish hair they gave to Cyrus, it was quite a performance. Also, we got to see more of Elizabeth Eis, whose acting I rather liked.[/spoiler]
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Cassandra on May 23, 2003, 07:12:21 AM
Davis wins hands down. Pennock had several extraordinarily good scenes over time on the show.   Plus I thought he was damn sexy, while Davis is simply ... nauseating.


I agree Gothick.  Jeb may be a real s.o.b. but he plays the part well and he does have a sexy way about him.  As for R.D.  hard as I may try I just can't seem to find anything sexy about him.


Cassandra
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Happybat on May 23, 2003, 04:22:14 PM
Actually I don't think CP is all that bad as Jeb Hawkes.  He succeeds in making us hate him.  The worst actors are those that make us all too aware that they are acting ... or trying to.  Unfortunately, even our dear JF has had his bad moments there, although somehow that became part of his appeal.

The same can't be said for RD, unfortunately.  His characters all tend to be the same - irritating!  So I agree with everyone else that he wins hands down over CP.

But RD and CP seem like Oliviers next to the ghastly non-acting by whoever played Sky Rumson.  Now, that is BAAAD!!!  [puke]
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Cassandra Blair on May 23, 2003, 05:14:28 PM
Chiming in with the majority here, which I ain't always known for doing.   ::)

Can't STAND Roger Davis as any character he plays.  He is least objectionable as Peter Bradford in 1795, but still...

Chris Pennock gets off to a rocky start as Jeb Hawkes, who is way annoying and arrogant, but does have a sexy body.  His acting got lots better by the time the Leviathan storyline ended, and he was quite good as Cyrus/Yaeger and as Gabriel Collins.

And yes, the "hairbrush scene" is riveting in it's own sick way.  [shkdy]
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 23, 2003, 07:48:36 PM
But RD and CP seem like Oliviers next to the ghastly non-acting by whoever played Sky Rumson.  Now, that is BAAAD!!!  [puke]

Geoffrey Scott is in a class all by himself. His acting is legendarily bad! Just ask the editors of Soap Opera Digest. [wink2] I've never seen them say as harsh things about anyone else as they have about Scott. And in an industry that's often criticized for hiring based on looks rather than talent, singling Scott out as the worst among the worse is really saying something. [lghy]
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Annie on May 24, 2003, 03:23:20 PM
Hello gang i go with Roger Davis as well!!!
          Love Anne ??? :o
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Luciaphile on May 24, 2003, 08:58:58 PM
Geoffrey Scott is in a class all by himself. His acting is legendarily bad! Just ask the editors of Soap Opera Digest. [wink2] I've never seen them say as harsh things about anyone else as they have about Scott. And in an industry that's often criticized for hiring based on looks rather than talent, singling Scott out as the worst among the worse is really saying something. [lghy]

I remember when he got the GL gig to replace Jordan Clarke. Oy, that was bad. Really bad. I didn't recognize him immediately from DS, but I still thought he was atrocious.

The thing is though, he's only on DS for a relatively short period of time. RD just kept coming back again and again.
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Debra on May 24, 2003, 10:33:17 PM
The thing is though, he's only on DS for a relatively short period of time. RD just kept coming back again and again.


Yeah and each time he only got worse and worse! You would think with all that time and experience his acting would have improved, but apparently not so.   I know he had been on other shows, such as Alias,Smith and Jones for awhile, but I never watched this so i can't comment on if his acting did improve later on with time.

Deb
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 24, 2003, 10:55:37 PM
I know he had been on other shows, such as Alias,Smith and Jones for awhile, but I never watched this so i can't comment on if his acting did improve later on with time.

As hard as it might be to imagine for anyone who's only seen him on DS, RD is quite good in almost everything else he's ever done, both prior to and after DS. It certainly makes one wonder what sort of influences affected his work on DS so badly. ::) (Maybe it's the fact that in almost every other recorded environment actors often have the opportunity to do retakes until they get it right? ;) And then there's always the miracle of editing, which can frequently do wonders, making even a bad actor look good by piecing together only the best moments of each attempted performance. [wink2])
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Patti Feinberg on May 24, 2003, 11:13:55 PM
I've never seen Alias S&J, but on Twightlight Zone, younger, ergo 'cuter', but still somewhat obnoxious.

Patti
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: jennifer on May 25, 2003, 12:50:15 AM
I know he had been on other shows, such as Alias,Smith and Jones for awhile, but I never watched this so i can't comment on if his acting did improve later on with time.

As hard as it might be to imagine for anyone who's only seen him on DS, RD is quite good in almost everything else he's ever done, both prior to and after DS. It certainly makes one wonder what sort of influences affected his work on DS so badly. ::) (Maybe it's the fact that in almost every other recorded environment actors often have the opportunity to do retakes until they get it right? ;) And then there's always the miracle of editing, which can frequently do wonders, making even a bad actor look good by piecing together only the best moments of each attempted performance. [wink2])

i quite agree MB and have to add in thinking about this feel CP is worse i liked Alias!i hated Yeager more than Jeb if that is possible feel he overacted big time !!so go ahead
whip those curse buttons at me but i'm starting to like RD's roles the more i see of CP's i had it a tie before now feel i lkie Rd better!


jennifer

Sky is in a class by himself!

Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on May 25, 2003, 02:38:57 PM
Chris Pennock got better and better in my opinion. I really liked the overly dramatic scenes with him and Carolyn when he played Jeb.  I thought he was fantastic as Yeager and Gabriel.

Although RD was annoying to most people here, I rather liked his Peter Bradford, and Dirk Wilkins (sp?), and most of all Charles Delaware Tate. The other characterizations left a lot to be desired IMHO.
[spoiler]However, I did enjoy Angelique putting the bite on him, heh-heh.[/spoiler]
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Patti Feinberg on May 25, 2003, 03:55:11 PM
i quite agree MB and have to add in thinking about this feel CP is worse i liked Alias!i hated Yeager more than Jeb if that is possible feel he overacted big time !!so go ahead
whip those curse buttons at me but i'm starting to like RD's roles the more i see of CP's i had it a tie before now feel i lkie Rd better!
lololol.....BEFORE I read this, I had cured you honey...wish I could again...cause I [size=12]HATE[/size] loathe, abhor, detest...guess you could say I just don't like CYRUS/JEKYLL/HYDE...that (okay, tying with Adam) is
 T H E worst DS plot ever.

EVER!!!

EVER!!!!

Patti
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: jennifer on May 25, 2003, 07:36:25 PM
i quite agree MB and have to add in thinking about this feel CP is worse i liked Alias!i hated Yeager more than Jeb if that is possible feel he overacted big time !!so go ahead
whip those curse buttons at me but i'm starting to like RD's roles the more i see of CP's i had it a tie before now feel i lkie Rd better!
lololol.....BEFORE I read this, I had cured you honey...wish I could again...cause I [size=12]HATE[/size] loathe, abhor, detest...guess you could say I just don't like CYRUS/JEKYLL/HYDE...that (okay, tying with Adam) is
 T H E worst DS plot ever.

EVER!!!

EVER!!!!

Patti

thank you Patti (cured you back!) :-*and i agree i liked his roles as Gabriel
but Yeager was too WEIRD! That HAIR ALONE!

jennifer
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Cassandra on May 25, 2003, 09:00:22 PM
I've never seen Alias S&J, but on Twightlight Zone, younger, ergo 'cuter', but still somewhat obnoxious.


I saw that episode too Patti, and you're right,  he was screaming to high heaven during the whole show and acting like a lunatic!!  It's no wonder the poor woman who married him in that episode went mad!!![spin][rollb]


Cassandra
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 25, 2003, 09:38:35 PM
CYRUS/JEKYLL/HYDE...that (okay, tying with Adam) is
 T H E worst DS plot ever.

EVER!!!

EVER!!!!

I couldn't disagree with you more, Patti. And perhaps we'll get a chance to debate it once the 1970PT storyline gets underway. ;)
Title: Re:Playin' With Fire....but I Gotta
Post by: The Ghost of Sarah Collins on May 27, 2003, 05:39:32 AM
I would like to add that although CP is better as a performer in his roles... RD is that much better looking then CP, (at this time in their lives) :D
Sorry all you CP fans... he did become better looking as he aged.  ;D

  Sarah's [ghost]