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Title: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Philippe Cordier on July 27, 2012, 03:33:06 AM

I thought it would be fun to start a thread that people attending the festival could report on. After some stressful moments in travel preparations (a misplaced VISA card, getting lost in finding my airport due to roads closed from recent flooding), I finally made it first to Chicago and then on to Tarrytown. I had barely checked into my room when a letter was hand-delivered warning of impending strong storms, tornadoes, and possible flooding. The hotel lobby is very comfortable and feels a little like the hall of an old castle. Visited already with Teresa who was in the lobby sipping wine with her friend. Because of the threatening storm, I didn't go out to eat but had a wonderful penne pasta (with jumbo shrimp and fresh artichoke cooked in a wine broth) here at the hotel. Tomorrow I hope to spend some solitary time at Lyndhurst, providing all goes well; and would also like to investigate Tarrytown, though that is in the opposite direction. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that Professor Stokes will be here and am looking forward to seeing her, Jimbo, and others. I've also just learned that there won't be any DS events here at the hotel other than the luncheon on Sunday. One thing I enjoyed at the other festivals I've attended was how you could watch DS episodes playing in one of the banquet rooms practically all night if you wanted, but that won't be the case this time.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Annie on July 28, 2012, 12:52:46 AM

Hi  Phillippe  thanks so much for the report  from  TarryTown.   Glad  u are having a great  time!
                              Enjoy   !!  Love  Anne  [ghost_smiley] :) :)

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Philippe Cordier on July 28, 2012, 03:03:58 AM

Thank you, Annie! I've just come from the hotel lobby to use one of the public computers, and Teresa says "hi" to everyone. Jimbo is here now and I saw Even Hanley among others in the lobby. Kathryn Leigh Scott looks lovely and sparkling with energy, and I found I was accidentally standing behind someone who had stopped who turned out to be Lara Parker; I walked by her nonchalantly (I hope). Annie, I'll mention your greeting if I see the others again later.

I didn't get into Tarrytown after all, but I did walk to Lyndhurst and my first glimpse of the Gothic house as I walked over a rise in the road was quite remarkable. I felt that the setting of Lyndhurst with the long road in off the main road really gave a feeling for what Collinwood must have been like. I can't compare it to the setting of Seaview Terrace since I haven't been there, but I think this is closer to what we imagine from the show itself. Yet approaching the house all the images that came to mind were those from the two DS movies, not the TV show. The way that I was able to reconcile the two different Collinwoods and the very different stories of the movies as compared with the TV series is that the movies represented a parallel time Collinwood. The same people were there, but they had made different choices and fate played out differently.

There seemed to be no one around the house and I had been told I would be able to get in. I tried the front door and it was locked, so I walked around and thought I could hear voices from the second floor but couldn't see anyone. I tried another door and that was locked too, so I continued walking around, viewing the tower from both the front and back of the house. I saw where Carlotta had jumped from and stood where her body must have landed. I looked for the tree where Angelique was hanged but couldn't tell which one it might have been.

There wasn't much else to do though I did see the large tent and believe Darren was probably one of the few people inside getting things ready but didn't want to disturb them. So I continued walking in the direction where I thought Washington Irving's estate, Sunnyside, would be. I walked what seemed to be about a mile on a packed dirt road; fortunately it was shade-covered because the day was getting hot.

Before I finally found Sunnyside, I had a strange deja vu experience. I came to the end of a street at the bottom of a hill marked "Dead End," but something compelled me to walk further. Before me was a smallish two story old home that I thought, oh, I've been here before, because I recongized it the house and remembered having been there. Then I realized that that was impossible because I've never been to Tarrytown in my life. I looked at the house very carefully and even tried to see the side of it where I remember being at an evening party, although by then I realized that I was remembering the house from a recurrent dream I've had some years ago. It wasn't anything from another era - in my dream it was just a place where I was with friends, and I remember a party taking place at dusk. What the explanation for this is, I don't know.

I retraced my steps and found the entrance of Sunnyside. This turned out to be a most interesting experience. I was just in time to join a small tour of about six people. By this time the sun was beating down and I was glad I had used sunscreen as someone had recommended and wished I had brought my cap - but it had looked like rain when I had left the hotel an hour or so earlier. The guide wore a period costume and presented very detailed historical information at every step. I came to find the house interesting in the context of Dark Shadows because I thought this must have been much like the Old House and the lifestyle there. The rooms were very small, close, and hot. Stairways were extremely narrow and very steep. Beds looked tiny and were often shared by relatives living there. I came away with a new interest in Washington Irving.

Events begin at Lyndhurst at noon tomorrow and the schedule is full until evening. The first event is a DS fan film filmed at Seaview Terrace. I just met Kim and Ken who made the movie, and was under the impression that information about it had been posted on this forum, but I didn't find it here. Both HODS and NODS will be shown Saturday night. The tribute to Jonathan Frid is at 5 p.m., I think. On Sunday, I was excited to see that Nancy Barrett will be giving a dramatic reading or performance with Jerry Lacey. This will be the first festival I've attended when Nancy Barrett has been there. Having always admired her acting, I think this will be something to really look forward to.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on July 28, 2012, 05:04:52 AM

Philippe, that's a lovely account of your day.  Thanks so much for taking the time to share!  I've been to T'town a few times but never managed to get to Sunnyside, nor the Sleepy Hollow cemetery.  I've always been taken to Lyndhurst in a car so I have missed the magical views you describe of the approach to the house, although I do think of the opening of Night of DS and how there is that sense of anticipation as they approach the gracious old mansion (where secret horror lurks... heh, heh)

I am thrilled for you that Nancy Barrett will be performing.  Had that been announced, I might have made more of an effort to try and be there since I always enjoy seeing Nancy.  And Jerry Lacy!

Sometimes there is a fan, or a few fans, who have DVD players in their rooms and show videos.  Maybe you'll stumble across somebody who will invite you to one of those parties.

I hope you are enjoying your evening!

cheers, Gothick

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Midnite on July 28, 2012, 06:10:44 PM

Philippe, thanks from me too for the reports!  Hopefully the weather isn't too terrible today.  Can't recall another Fest that had rain during the events, at least not in the last 15 years.

Info on Ken and Kim's video is on the Calendar/Announcement Board, posted by JVjr (Ken).

I looked forward last summer to that dramatic reading by Nancy and Jerry Lacy (a piece he wrote, IINM), but unfortunately she canceled her appearance at the last minute.  Oh well.  Would love to hear about it when you have the time.

I hope you're having a fantastic time.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Philippe Cordier on July 29, 2012, 05:42:23 AM

It's after midnight and I've just broken away from the lobby, where the partying is still going strong. Marie Wallace is taking pictures of people. I've heard that Ken and Kim's video went over well, and I unfortunately missed it. Evan Hanley was in the movie and he was telling me that he didn't like some aspect of his performance, and a woman overhearing him said, "You were great!" I'm sorry I wasn't there to support the filmmakers but perhaps posting about it here will help. I saw Julia99 at a table and she was very friendly. I hated to admit that I hadn't read her book on Grayson Hall, even though I had been intrigued by what I've heard about it, but I will definitely be ordering it from amazon now.

I was able to get inside Lyndhurst today just before the announced opening time, so there weren't many people inside yet which made it easier to see and enjoy it. It was very impressive; my favorite area was the gallery (which I learned was originally the library). There were guides posted throughout the house and the man in the gallery was very versed in every aspect of the room, the art, and Lyndhurst's history in minute detail.

As far as the DS actors appearances, I saw Lara Parker and Katherine Leigh Scott. I caught the tail-end of Jerry Lacy's. I learned today that he had been at the table behind me in the restaurant last night but I hadn't noticed then. I saw him earlier today and he is very distinguished looking. It's surprising that even though I have heard Lara Parker and KLS several times, I found myself fascinated by what they had to say. I took a few notes later and will try to post more another time. A clip was shown of a film (apparently an independent film) that they are both in, along with Jerry Lacy I believe, called "Dr. Mabuse." I'm not sure exactly what this film is about or how to describe it, but I definitely want to keep my eye on this. It looks very, very interesting!

The tribute to Jonathan Frid was very well done, with a series of clips from DS that Mr. Frid had chosen to have shown at the fest. His young webmaster spoke and showed some videos of Mr. Frid rehearsing at home. The scene from Richard II was powerfully done. There was also a clip of him reading from one of the New Testament epistles in his church. Finally, an eloquent talk was given by Mr. Frid's nephew that gave a personal sense of why this man was so much loved and admired. It was a fitting tribute.

During much of this, it was raining torrents outside, and the air-conditioning in the tent was freezing. Suddenly everyone was pulling out sweatshirts or buying jackets. When I finally got outside the temperature seemed to have plummeted, which seems to happen at every festival I attend. After returning to the hotel to put on warmer clothes, I walked back to Lyndhurst. It was almost dark and I made the mistake of taking a shortcut through the woods. No, I didn't stumble on a werewolf or vampire, but the path was muddy and wet and I sometimes had to walk off the path in the grass. I ended up with wet tennis shoes as well as the hem of my jeans. Also, I had seen deer earlier and remembered about deer ticks carrying Lyme disease, but I don't know if that's a problem here in NY or not. I stuck to the main road when I walked back later, after watching about 45 minutes of NODS. Seeing those movies will take on new significance now having seen much of the locations.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: MsCriseyde on July 29, 2012, 05:45:45 PM

Here's a local media article with some photos of the event. Be sure to click "Show Caption" in the sideshow.

http://www.lohud.com/article/20120729/NEWS02/307290036/Fans-recall-gothic-soap-Dark-Shadows-festival-held-Lyndhurst-mansion-Tarrytown?odyssey=mod_sectionstories

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on July 29, 2012, 07:50:39 PM

Thanks, Ms C.  Those are great photos.  I spotted Jerry Lacy but he wasn't identified--wonder why not.  And I spotted some other familiar faces in the snaps.  Looks as if that tent had a lot of empty seats even though the event was officially sold out.

It was odd to see the giant poster/standee set up for the Burton/Depp film.  I wonder if that was the only element from what one would have thought would have been this year's hot theme on evidence at the event.

And thanks again to Philippe for his very personal, beautifully written report.  Once upon a time, we had several fans on here reporting from the Festival floor.  Now you alone remain to tell the story (I think that's a quote, but can't recall from where).

Thanks, Steve

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on July 29, 2012, 09:04:34 PM

given the massively scaled back nature of this year's "event" i just couldn't justify the time, travel or expense of attending. scott and parker hawking their books wasn't enough of an enticement.

and frankly the outrageous behavior of the outer fringes of this fanbase over the movie(i'm recalling tears, pleas and threats of suicide on other boards)the very idea left me uncomfortable for some time.


that said i'm glad it seems as if the guest list and activities planned have been improved and those in attendace are enjoying themselves. there's always next year.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Julia99 on July 29, 2012, 11:21:18 PM

So the AC was in the tents eh?  We were melting in the area I was at which included LP, KLS, Jerry and Marie.
Thanks to everyone who stopped by to say hello.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Philippe Cordier on July 29, 2012, 11:54:51 PM

Thanks everyone for their comments ... I am somewhat surprised that no one else attending the fest has added their experiences here, but it may be because this event is shorter and there isn't a lot of time. Professor Stokes mentioned last night that she prefers the original format for the festivals, and that is certainly understandable. In my view, what the festival has lost in the number of panels by DS personnel and more dealers was balanced by the opportunity to have events held at Lyndhurst. That had more meaning in some ways than having everything in dark hotel ballrooms.

The photos someone mentioned concerning empty seats at the tent simply means that may have been at a non-peak time. There were 700 registrants for the festival and I heard of several people who were turned away from Lyndhurst. During the panels I attended, the seating was 90 percent full.

I neglected to mention that the opening to the tribute for Jonathan Frid was a recorded reading/video from David Selby. His words were beautifully expressed and ended to the effect that the night is long, but candles burn on in the night. I would like to get a copy of what he wrote.

Lara Parker spoke about the longevity of fandom for the original series - that though a new movie has come and gone, the festival was a testament to the enduring nature of the original show. At the banquet luncheon today, she gave the closing remarks, carefully giving credit to the talents of those involved with the new movie which was inspired by and ultimately a tribute to "our show" of so many decades ago.

Not finding anyone I knew at the vast banquet hall, I was invited to take a place at a table in the exact center of the floor, which turned out to be primarily volunteer staff. My appreciation to those who offered me the seat; it turned out that this was Marie Wallace's table. What a fun lady she is! I decided to buy her book later just to learn more about her career.

A highlight of the banquet was the performance of Nancy Barrett and Jerry Lacy. Ms. Barrett was as talented as ever, and Jerry Lacy's reading of his lines was so naturalistic you felt you were overhearing a conversation. The brief play, really one extended scene, returned to DS's roots as a character drama, with a chance meeting in the present day of Carolyn Stoddard and Tony Peterson at the Blue Whale, where they at first don't recognize one another. It was really very lovely with no supernatural overtones. Now something like that would make the basis for a DS updating that would interest me.

As far as announcements made by Jim Pierson, the restoration of NODS is proceeding - the upcoming October release of the two original movies on DVD hasn't stopped those plans, so that was exciting and welcome news. The other big announcement was that they are contemplating a new format for the festival next year -- a cruise somewhere off New York. That came as a surprise to everyone. New and surprising, but the more I think of it, personally I'm not sure I would want to be trapped on board with 700 DS fans, but then there would always be the next year.

On a side note, I made it into Tarrytown late in the day and walked to Sleepy Hollow but couldn't find the historic cemetery. I thought the vague line maps I had seen would be sufficient, but I should have researched it first. Back at the hotel now, I've been doing just that, and it would have been quite a ways further. The cemetery looks enormous and would take some advance planning to appreciate. Also, the burial ground in Washington Irving's story is actually the adjacent Old Dutch Church burying ground, not Sleepy Hollow Cemetery, which was founded later.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Philippe Cordier on July 30, 2012, 01:21:16 AM

A quick addition about merchandise -- other than the DVD sets and DS-related books, I've never been too interested in the sort of memorabilia things that so many fans love, which may explain why a smaller vendor showcase didn't concern me. It's usually difficult to pack anything additional for a return flight home -- probably the one larger item I really wanted to take back some years ago was a poster, but no packaging tube was available. I'm not an autograph collector either, and normally order my books (such as all of KLS's) online rather than at DS events. I made an exception with Ms. Wallace's book today. If R.J. Jamison should read this, never fear - I have already placed my much-belated order for the Grayson Hall biography on amazon. Her revised and expanded edition of Craig Hammrick's "Barnabas and Company" will be another anticipated addition in the future (haven't read the original but it seems to be another must-have). Fortunately there is no dearth of DS-related publications to look forward to for future reading.

Speaking of merchandise, one of the gifts everyone attending the banquet today received was - gasp! - a Barnabas ring. I'm still somewhat awed. Could it be that one day the gift will be a replica Josette's music box? That would be more than I think would ever be possible.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Annie on July 30, 2012, 01:25:45 AM

Hi  Phillippe   thanks again for the wonderful report  from  Tarrytown.  It was very nice of  you
to take the time out of  your busy  schedule  to do this.
                         Love  Anne [ghost_smiley] :) :)

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: ClaudeNorth on July 30, 2012, 01:53:14 AM

Quote from: Philippe Cordier on July 29, 2012, 11:54:51 PM

The other big announcement was that they are contemplating a new format for the festival next year -- a cruise somewhere off New York...personally I'm not sure I would want to be trapped on board with 700 DS fans...

I'm with you, Philippe! [a1f5]  The great thing about the NY Fests is that I can indulge my interest in DS, and when it gets to be too much (as it always does...), I can hop the subway and spend a few restorative hours in a museum or just wandering.

Glad you were able to see Lyndhurst and Sunnyside, two of my favorite destinations.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: MsCriseyde on July 30, 2012, 03:10:12 AM

Quote from: Philippe Cordier on July 29, 2012, 11:54:51 PM

I neglected to mention that the opening to the tribute for Jonathan Frid was a recorded reading/video from David Selby. His words were beautifully expressed and ended to the effect that the night is long, but candles burn on in the night. I would like to get a copy of what he wrote.

The recording was made in San Diego a couple of weeks ago. The words are drawn from a letter to Jonathan that was posted on David Selby's web site:

http://www.davidselby.com/blog/2012/04/19/a-letter-to-jonathan/

Word is that the audio/video will eventually make its way online via some official channel.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on July 30, 2012, 03:44:20 AM

Thanks again for the latest reflective notes on this year's Festival experience.  700 sounds pretty low as an attendance figure to me.  Don't the NY area Festivals typically take in between 2000 and 2500 attendees?

I think a cruise would have potentially a very different clientele from the typical fan who attends the Festivals.  It will be interesting to see whether they pursue that idea.

The short play with Nancy and Jerry sounds beautiful.  I would love to hear Carolyn and Tony exchanging their thoughts after all those years.  I'm sure the two actors portrayed it with sensitivity and depth.

Thanks again,

Steve

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on July 30, 2012, 03:55:39 AM

Thank you Philippe for you wonderful review of the fest! I am glad we got to spend so much time together this year and loved hearing about your adventures.  I must say I had such a wonderful time this year and thought the fest went splendidly! I met several new friends and spent some good quality time with some dear old friends which was my main reason for going. 
I really enjoyed my day at Lyndhurst and I was one of those who bought a sweatshirt due to the nasty weather and dropping temps.  I was freezing by the time I left Lyndhurst! The tent stayed busy most of the day as well as the carriage house which was packed to capacity.  I am very happy to say there were so many new fans there this year!
It was a wonderful weekend, I had a great time and am sad it's over~!

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on July 30, 2012, 04:00:25 AM

 A cast photo from this afternoon

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on July 30, 2012, 05:45:11 AM

That's beautiful Teresa! Who is the lady next to Marie--not Jerry, on the other side of Marie?

Glad to hear you had such a lovely time.  I regret not having been there.  It wasn't good timing for me, amongst other factors.

G.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on July 30, 2012, 12:37:35 PM

gothick i believe that's sharon smyth...even our little sarah's grown up.


it would be interesting to hear an exchange between carolyn and tony peterson. that was one of those relationships/storylines on the series that sort of fizzled out on the launching pad. the last time we see peterson is in the infamous diana walker "fake carolyn" episode. then the character disappears without a trace never to be mentioned again. [ghost_rolleyes]

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: jimbo on July 30, 2012, 03:41:59 PM

Thank you Philippe for your reviews on the Fest. You are such a good writer. It was great to see you again at a Fest. This was one of the most informal-like Fests I have attended. It was such a relaxing atmosphere. There was no rush to get autographs or a rush to be anywhere. The actors were not stressed out like in some previous Fests. Everything seemed to run smoothly. Yes there were some issues like the a/c unit in the tent not being secured when the heavy rains came and people got wet. All the events on the schedule seemed to be on time which was very nice. The tributes by friends, co-workers and family to Jonathan Frid were the highlight of the Fest. I just sat back and enjoyed the event which was a change for me. Typically I am running around like a chicken without a head at these events. I enjoyed meeting my old friends and making new ones. Thanks again Philippe for your wonderful detailed reviews and I am glad you had a great time.

Here are some pics from the Fest. http://broadwayworld.com/article/Photo-Coverage-Kathryn-Leigh-Scott-Lara-Parker-and-More-at-Dark-Shadows-Weekend-20120730

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on July 30, 2012, 03:55:12 PM

Thanks for that link, Jimbo.  michael, you're right:  the lady with the blonde bob is identified on Jimbo's link as Sharon.

I was wondering for a bit if she might have been Kathy Cody, but evidently not.

G.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Lydia on July 30, 2012, 08:06:35 PM

Not being sure exactly how far Lyndhurst is from the hotel, I drove over on Saturday, and then I left my sweater in my car because I was sure I wouldn't need it on such a day.  How wrong I was!  It was cold in that tent.  But the experience was worth the cold.

I never would have recognized Sharon Smyth, but when she was asked if she wanted to sit or to stand, she said, "I don't know," and the intonation was very much Sarah.  As Sharon talked, I kept thinking of something MB said a couple of years ago:

Quote from: Mysterious Benefactor on June 27, 2010, 05:48:52 PM

Sarah was played by Sharon Smyth (who I actually miss at the Fests - but I digress...).

Yeah, Sharon's fun.  Somebody asked her to sing London Bridge Is Falling Down, and she had us all sing it with her.  I thought: "Only at a Dark Shadows Fest could there be a group singalong of London Bridge."

Jerry Lacy was asked to say something as Trask.  He started with something that was, as I remember it, fairly generic, but then he thought a bit and said: "I have the witch!  I have the witch!" and said that as he dragged Alexandra Moltke away after saying that (in episode 400 - I just looked it up) he stepped on his cloak and (according to him) you can see him and Moltke descending out of the scene rather than just exiting stage whatever.

Kathryn Leigh Scott mentioned in passing that she's had a hip replacement.  Wow, modern medicine is something!  I never would have guessed.  But knowing what KLS is like, I figure she was no sluggard when it came to the post-op therapy.

The short play with Nancy Barrett and Jerry Lacy was great.  I feel privileged to have seen it.

I'm always surprised by how much fun the charity auctions are.  Also how hopeless.  Every time I think, "Hmm...I wouldn't mind having that; I might even bid $50!" you can bet the bidding will go into the hundreds.  The most interesting item, I thought, was sold at the banquet on Sunday: a visit to the tower at Lyndhurst, where, as Jim Pierson explained, visitors aren't usually allowed to go because there's no emergency exit.  It went for $200 to a woman from San Francisco.

The lobby at the Doubletree hotel is huge, with lots of very comfortable chairs and sofas.  I spent a lot of time in the chairs and sofas on Sunday looking at people waiting in lines - lines for the banquet (I myself just went in the end and was very satisfied with a table at the back of the beyond) and lines for autographs.  It must have been a little strange for any non-Dark Shadows guests arriving.  There was a wedding or two there that weekend, and a Green-Bryant family reunion, with family members wearing Green-Bryant Family Reunion T-shirts.  No Collins Family Reunion T-shirts, though.

I was surprised that Jim Pierson said they were considering a Dark Shadows Fest cruise, since we discussed the idea here on these boards a few years ago and the reasons not to do it seemed compelling.  Here's part of what borgosi was told when he looked into it:

Quote from: borgosi on September 24, 2007, 07:31:08 PM

I don't know how the actors would feel about being on a boat with fans. You can't sign up under an assumed name like you can at a hotel. There are legal manifests and with terrorism as it is those list are scrutinized. You have more freedom in a hotel to escape people but even on the biggest ship there isn't any place you can really "hide". Don't misunderstand, the actors do socialize. I have spent many an evening over drinks in the lounge with them, but there comes a time when they do need time to themselves or for private conversations and many fans don't understand.

But as I said at the time, a Dark Shadows cruise sounds like fun, with or without the stars.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Nancy on July 30, 2012, 08:30:26 PM

I would be flabbergasted if the DS actors agreed to a cruise with several hundred DS fans.  If it was a cruise of a few hours, maybe.

Part of the appeal of the DS fests/weekends is the locality.  From their hotel locale there are many other nearby attractions and things to do outside of the festival.   But I have been flabbergasted before and maybe the cruise will happen.

Nancy

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on July 30, 2012, 09:03:14 PM

yes i prefer the come-and-go options of the hotel fest setup...

a cruise sounds confining. claustrophobic even.


in recent years i've been fortunate with several fests at the brooklyn marriot. i live in brooklyn so when i'm feeling tired or "over it" so to speak i can just walk home.

it sounds like this year's event stepped up to the plate after all. glad those who attended had fun.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on July 31, 2012, 01:14:39 PM

The only thing I did not like about this year was that it seemed to end so early in the day Sunday.  Usually with the banquet being in the evening it keeps people up later and socializing into the wee hours.  I also did not like the fact that everyone could not be at the same hotel even though many seemed to make the Doubletree the place to hang out which was great since I stayed there. 

Usually I pass on the banquet/dinner but decided to do the luncheon and was really happy I did.  I enjoyed the skit with Nancy and Jerry very much and my vegetarian lunch was delicious!  The gift bags had lots of goodies in them and I was pretty much last in line to get in but had no problem getting a table with 4 other friends.  My biggest complaint for the entire weekend is that the hotel was freezing.  You would think I'd learn after all these years to bring plenty of sweaters but I purchased a sweatshirt from MPI for $15 that hit the spot!

It was a fun weekend and my Dark Shadows friends have become family.  I always hate that last day saying goodbye.

I have attached a photo of Philippe, myself and Amanda taken on Saturday night.  We make sure we take one every year the three of us are all together in one room! [ghost_cheesy]

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on July 31, 2012, 04:14:03 PM

What a sweet photo!

G.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Midnite on July 31, 2012, 06:58:09 PM

Wonderful photo, thanks!

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gerard on July 31, 2012, 11:16:52 PM

Quote from: ClaudeNorth on July 30, 2012, 01:53:14 AM

The great thing about the NY Fests is that I can indulge my interest in DS, and when it gets to be too much (as it always does...), I can hop the subway and spend a few restorative hours in a museum or just wandering.

Well, it depends upon the ship.  If she's one of those collosal RCCL Allure of the Ever-Expanding-Universe floating shoe box things, you'd be among over 5,000 passengers (and I'm sure not all would be part of any DS on-board festival; I've done cruises as same-interest-orientated fund raising things and were just a bunch within the throng who had access to whatever reserved public rooms were given us;  after that, we all just melded in with the passenger load and you might not see another fan for the rest of the day).  Plus, there's lots to do on-board a cruise ship - quite often, they are the destination because of what they offer in limitless activities and things to see (there are art galleries and museums on many of them).  Stopping at some port or island is now becoming more secondary.  But they're still offered, and you can spend half the cruise, if not more (some stop at a port every day, anathema to those of us who choose to sail on a ship because we want to sail on a ship) joining a tour (usually over-priced) or just heading off on your own.

If they decide to have a festival on a ship, I hope they will consider the transatlantic ocean liner Queen Mary 2, which also does cruises.  Usually, she does a week-long New England/Maritime Provinces autumn cruise in between transatlantic voyages.  She stops at ports from Newport to Bar Harbor, so that would be perfect to take in some DS scenery.  I spent a month on board her during her maiden season in 2004.  She's grand, glorious and a tribute to the classic ocean liners of the past, and while being the same size as the RCCL Allure monstrosities, she carries less than half the passenger load so there are larger cabins, less crowded public rooms, no need to line up (unless you want to go into the Planetarium, the only one of its kind on the seas).

The only time I ever attended a DS festival was after completing a cruise to Bermuda on the ship Zenith.  After we disembarked and a friend picked us up, we headed off to Brooklyn.  As we talked with Robert "Adam" Rodan, he commented on where we got our tans.  He said (paraphrasing):  "Wouldn't a festival on a cruise ship be a great idea?"

Gerard

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gerard on July 31, 2012, 11:42:34 PM

Quote from: Nancy on July 30, 2012, 08:30:26 PM

I would be flabbergasted if the DS actors agreed to a cruise with several hundred DS fans.  If it was a cruise of a few hours, maybe.

On the several cruises/crossings I've been on, I've seen scores of celebrities, from actors/actresses to authors to politicians.  From my experiences, it's rather remarkable how other passengers leave them alone when they're "off duty" - many will give lectures and presentations, and have a time set aside for autographs, but beyond that, I've never seen anyone bother them on the "confinement" of a passenger ship.  They go about, enjoying a drink in one of the lounges, taking a walk on the promenade deck or resting in a deck chair, and no one bothered them.  It was like an unwritten rule.  (Not to sound gauche, but one time when I was in the men's room, Telly Savalas stood at the urinal next to me - we both did our business without exchanging any words.)  On a transatlantic crossing on the retired Queen Elizabeth 2 (the same one with Telly Savalas, who gave an incredible lecture on the history of television) was Edwin Newman, the noted newsman, journalist and author (who also gave several lectures).  I and my friends, one day, saw him standing alone at the railing of the QE2's First Class sundeck (we were interloping from Tourist Class) and we decided to approach him sheepishly.  He said:  "Well, finally, someone wants to talk with me.  I thought I was all alone on this ship."  We stood there, in the 32-knot wind, and talked for over an hour.  He thanked us profusely afterwards.  We could've gone on, but that mighty breeze made things chilly, even though it was August, but it was the North Atlantic.

So I don't think DS stars would have to worry about being stalked constantly while "confined" on a ship by exuberant fans.  I know some of us DS fans are nuts and go overboard (which might not be a bad idea on a ship if they behave badly), but I've never, ever seen a celebrity driven to the confines of his/her stateroom/suite by constantly annoying fans.  Ever.  I've actually seen them looking for some human connection because everyone knows not to bother them to the point of loneliness.

Gerard

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Heather on August 01, 2012, 11:52:12 AM

Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts about the Fest....I couldn't make it this year, but I am damned determined to make it next time, if I can afford it. It would be so great to meet some of my fellow DS cousins!!!

Big hugs,

Heather :)

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 01, 2012, 12:38:48 PM

I thought I took so many photos while I was there but now they are downloaded it appear I don't have as many as I thought.  Here are a few from Lyndhurst

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Nancy on August 01, 2012, 04:06:47 PM

Quote from: Gerard on July 31, 2012, 11:42:34 PM

On the several cruises/crossings I've been on, I've seen scores of celebrities, from actors/actresses to authors to politicians.  From my experiences, it's rather remarkable how other passengers leave them alone when they're "off duty" - many will give lectures and presentations, and have a time set aside for autographs, but beyond that, I've never seen anyone bother them on the "confinement" of a passenger ship.

That's a remarkable experience.  In all the years I've been at fests I have yet to see a single actor eating in the restaurant or walking in the hall who was not accosted by a couple of fans.  I had to physically block one woman from following Jonathan Frid into the men's bathroom not once but several times.  When he has stayed at hotels off-site of a performance, fans have walked through the halls and hunkered down in the restaurant/bar/lounge just waiting to see if he will go in there.  I could write a book on such experiences.   When he was on the Norweigan Cruise some years ago, he had a few issues with fans not leaving him alone.  Obviously he won't be on any future cruise but I am sure he is not the only DS actor who has a problem being left alone when "off duty." 

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gerard on August 01, 2012, 07:23:03 PM

I wonder, Nancy, if DS fans are just a different lot.  Like I said, on every cruise/crossing I've been on, celebrities were left alone to the point of craving human contact.  I've seen them sitting by themselves in lounges and bars, forlorn looks on their faces, at times trying to make eye-contact and give an inviting smile to anyone they maybe thought would join them.  On one transatlantic crossing on the QM2, there was a noted maritime/nautical historian and author who published over 60 books.  He gave lectures and had several autograph sessions (which I attended, both, faithfully and got his autograph on several of his books that I owned and had with me).  The planetarium/lecture hall was packed with standing room only, and there was always a line weaving through the immense library and out the door.  But when he was no longer lecturing or signing, everyone stayed away.  When I and my friend went into one of the bars for a pre-dinner drink, there he was, sitting at a table, by himself.  He called out our names and insisted we join him.  After that, we all became fast friends and he finally had someone to have meals with and to invite to his stateroom. 

But then, of all the celebrities I saw none of them were DS who just might draw a more, shall we say, "unique" fan base.

Gerard

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 01, 2012, 07:51:54 PM

I have seen a few "fans" overstep boundaries at the fest.  Just this past weekend I noticed a few hovering over Lara as she checked in with camera ready and paper to sign.  I saw KLS being followed into the ladies room and the women following her had a camera which is very rude.  Not the place to take a photo.  In years past I have seen people follow them to their rooms, bathrooms and into restaurants ( uninvited).  In your case Gerard I think the person on  your cruise just recognized that you were not one of those types of fans and felt comfortable and safe inviting your to join him.  Several years back I was in my hotel room when I heard a knock on my door.  I opened it and a fan said he was knocking on all the door on my floor because he heard a cast member was on that floor.  I called security after I closed the door.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gerard on August 01, 2012, 11:33:07 PM

It's so sad that some fans extend their devotion into the root word of fan and fandom - fanatic.  They become so obsessed that they don't care about being rude, obnoxious and even dangerous.  Although I have no statistics to bear it out, but I would think that those who enjoy the genre from which DS sprang (and those in the same ballpark, such as Star Trek) can have a tendency of being well over the top in their "devotion" to the point of being bores.  I give kudos to all the DS celebrities who have had to put up with type of behavior time and again for decades, but still avail themselves to their fans.

The one good thing about doing a DS-themed cruise is that the problem can be easily nipped in the bud.  Warning can be given that anyone who harasses the stars (or anyone else) will be confined to their quarters until the ship reaches the next port where they will be summarily deposited, with bag and baggage, on the pier and told that they have to find their way home at their own expense.  Cruise lines do it all the time with boorish passengers and it's perfectly legal and beyond litigation; I've seen it done.  It works like a charm.  After just one incident of dumping an annoying passenger who now either angrily or with supplication asks how he/she is suppose to get home, especially from some foreign port, when his/her credit card is already almost maxed out (quite often from his/her on-ship bar-bill) and is left there in rage or tears as the ship sails away, I can tell you, it never happens again.  So, should some DS "fan" get too "up-close-and-personal" with any star, he/she can enjoy Martinique longer than Josette did.

Gerard

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 02, 2012, 01:25:26 AM

one thing that struck me at last year's fest was how approachable...and readily available...most of the DS stars were.


when i arrived friday evening(granted, probably not the most populated time)david selby...david selby...his wife and an assistant were sitting alone at a table selling david's books. i got his autograph instantly. for a large part of the weekend it was a similar story with most of the actors. there were some peak times but david, kathryn, marie, christopher pennock, and most of others were pretty accessible. only lara parker was inundated for most of the time.

speaking of lara and kathryn what were their new offerings this year? or the new offerings in general? anything worth hunting down?

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 02, 2012, 01:45:57 AM

I was in and out of the tent so much I missed a lot of what was new.  The only thing I watched in it's entirety was the video by Spencer Productions which started at noon.  The house tours closed at 4:00 and I did that right after.  The only person I got an autograph from was Jerry Lacy because 100% goes to animal charity!! Yah Jerry!  His line was very short at the time so I asked for a photo and sadly it did not turn out.  He was very nice.  My biggest thrill was at the banquet.  I had worn a hair fascinator made of flowers, feathers and beads that a friend made.  It was quite lovely and as Nancy Barrett left she leaned over to me and told me how much she liked it. 

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 02, 2012, 01:49:14 AM

i guess roger davis wasn't there selling pictures of himself with his ex-wife jaclyn smith like he was last year...


always in the height of good taste. [ghost_rolleyes]

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 02, 2012, 02:05:26 AM

No [ghost_cheesy].  Does he really do that?  Well, she is a lovely women.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: ClaudeNorth on August 02, 2012, 04:00:45 PM

Quote from: michael c on August 02, 2012, 01:25:26 AM

david selby...david selby...his wife and an assistant were sitting alone at a table selling david's books.

That's because everyone was waiting in line to purchase a Bobbi Ann Woronko t-shirt, the "must-have" garment of the season.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 03, 2012, 12:12:15 AM

I kind of liked that t-shirt with the nurse photo but all she had was extra large.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Philippe Cordier on August 03, 2012, 03:00:54 AM

Some further impressions after returning home ...

I was thinking about Lara Parker's comments during her appearance on Saturday in the "big tent," and she referred to "Dark Shadows" as "our little show," in comparing it with the big, expensive, explosive Burton-Depp collaboration. She indicated that the new movie deviated greatly from the vision and tone of the original series. She was careful not to push that point into negativity, but one sensed a wistful disappointment from her. Her observation was that "our little show" would outlast (and probably has already outlasted) the blockbuster movie.

At Lyndhurst, I was surveying some of the books behind locked glass doors in the tall bookcases in the library, and one ancient tome caught my eye, a red clothbound volume with gold lettering, I think it was, on the spine, that said "Linton's Witch Stories." A quick search this evening yielded only a little information, but the book was published in 1861, the author was Mrs. Eliza Lynn Linton, and the book concerns 17th century witch trials, though whether in America or England I don't know. She was a British author.

After checking out of my room on Monday and having a few hours before my flight out of Westchester County, I settled in the lobby and began reading a copy of "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" that I had purchased a few days earlier. I'm not certain whether I had actually read the original story years ago, though I know I had read a simplified children's version (possibly the Classics Illustrated version) growing up. So while I remembered every detail of the story, I felt that I was reading many long passages for the first time, including the two following:

"A drowsy, dreamy influence seems to hang over the land, and to pervade the very atmosphere. . . .  [T]he place still continues under the sway of some witching power, that holds a spell over the minds of the good people, causing them to walk in a continual reverie. They are given to all kinds of marvellous beliefs, are subject to trances and visions, and frequently see strange sights, and hear music and voices in the air. The whole neighborhood abounds with local tales, haunted spots, and twilight superstitions.

". . . [T]he visionary propensity I have mentioned is not confined to the native inhabitants of the valley, but is unconsciously imbibed by every one who resides there for a time. However wide awake they may have been before they entered that sleepy region, they are sure, in a little time, to inhale the witching influence of the air, and begin to grow imaginative, to dream dreams, and see apparitions."

I can't help feeling that my own experience of déjà vu going back to dreams I had a few years ago falls right into the bewitching influence surrounding Tarrytown that Washington Irving describes.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on August 03, 2012, 02:23:35 PM

Ah, "the witching influence of the air"!  Beautiful.

G.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: ProfStokes on August 04, 2012, 08:25:18 AM

This is the first opportunity I've had to check in since returning from the Fest.  It was delightful to be able to see Teresa, Philippe, jimbo, evan_hanley, Julia99 and others again, though I'm very sorry to learn that I missed meeting Lydia!   

Philippe, thank you for sharing your report of your time in Tarrytown.  I didn't realize this was your first time seeing Lyndhurst. It sounds like you made the most of your weekend by checking out the local sites of interest.  Your description of your dream-induced deja vu reminds me of the plot of Michael Balcon's Dead of Night! What an eerie experience that must have been!

I no longer have the stamina to write full-length recaps, but I will hit a couple of the high points.  It was a thrill to see Back From the Dead to Haunt Me played on the big Festival screen.  This was my third time getting to see the film, and I notice new nuances to the performances every time.  I know how much work everybody put into this project, and I was gratified by the audience's positive reaction to it (and especially to the twist ending).  The film was shot on location at Seaview Terrace with the participation of the owner, Denise Carey, and so it includes a number of inside jokes geared toward people who have been to Seaview.  However, I was glad to see that a general audience was able to relate to the movie and appreciate its humor too.

I only attended three of the star panels, Sharon Smyth's, Marie Wallace's, and Jerry Lacy's.  Sharon was a delightful speaker, very down-to-earth and friendly.  She recognized several people in the audience as her Facebook friends and greeted them by name.  She was also the first person to address the "controversy" of the movie, even polling the audience as to who did and did not like it (the split was about 50-50).  Sharon herself seemed to lean toward the latter camp, admitting that she thought certain scenes in the movie didn't need to be there and extolling Jonathan Frid as the one and only Barnabas.  However, she expressed her dismay over the polarization of the fandom in the wake of the film, and did not try to fan the flames between the camps.

Sharon also shared a funny anecdote about working with David Hennesy, remarking that she naively trusted him because of his experience on the show, and sometimes allowed him to get her into trouble.  For instance, he once persuaded her to get inside Barnabas's coffin, then sat on the lid, trapping her inside and causing her to miss her cue!  She explained that she didn't have many friends her own age because of her odd work schedule (commuting to NY during the week and returning to Philadelphia over the weekend) and didn't mingle with the much older adult cast members, so it was a real thrill to work opposite someone her own age.  She also freely confessed that her acting career came to an end because she became cocky and uncooperative as she entered her teens.  Finally, when her exasperated mother confronted her about whether she wanted to continue acting or not, Sharon declared she wanted to quit.  However, she didn't seem to think the move was a great loss to the acting world, and joked that she got the role of Sarah more because of a superficial resemblance to Jonathan Frid than because of her talent.

Marie Wallace was very gracious, thanking the loyal fans from around the country who have turned out to see her recent stage performances in the NY area.  She shared her memories of performing in "Gypsy," especially of participating in the legendary "Christmas Tree number," which has never been replicated since the original run due to prohibitive costs.  She also described an art show that the cast put together, as many of the actresses had taken up painting as a hobby during the show's run.  Ethel Merman purchased two of Marie's paintings to gift to relatives.

Jerry Lacy spoke about working with Woody Allen on Play It Again, Sam, saying that Allen's even more neurotic than the characters he plays.  He also revealed that the Trask-bricking scenes were accomplished using a three-sided wall.  I asked about his work on Dr. Mabuse.  Citing the original film and emphasizing that this movie is a new incarnation, Lacy described his role as that of an evil hypnotist who wants to enslave the world and rule over the ashes.  The movie will likely not be ready for release until December at the earliest.  Evidently, the director is some kind of prodigy, a man in his early 20s with some 20 films already under his belt.

I missed Lara and Kathryn's panels (and the Mabuse teaser) because I took that time to walk through Lyndhurst and its greenhouse/rose garden.  Unfortunately, I made a wrong turn on my way back and ended up trudging through the woods on the River Walk path (aptly named because the walkway turns into a river during a heavy downpour) just as the rain started to come down in earnest.  After carefully retracing my steps along the slippery road back to the Fest tent, I was completely soaked and more interested in getting back to the hotel to dry off and change clothes than in sticking around to watch videos or hear the Frid tribute.  I would love to hear details of what Don Frid had to say about his Uncle Jonathan from anyone who did attend this event.

Considering the small scale of the Fest event, it was a much fuller and more satisfying day than I had anticipated, but it still flew by much too fast. I can't believe that the biggest event of my summer boiled down to only a few hours in a day.  Whether next year's event is on land or sea, I certainly hope for a return to the 2.5 day format so that I can at least have more time to visit with my friends,  in addition to checking out more elaborate programming.

ProfStokes

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on August 04, 2012, 08:17:12 PM

Thanks, Amanda, for that report--beautifully written as always, and I always find the stories you choose to share of particular interest.

I never knew that Marie had been in the original production of Gypsy.  I've long regretted that Ethel didn't get to do the film.  Intriguing to learn that Marie's interest in fine art goes back that far.

I guess I'm grateful, vicariously, to Sharon for raising the question about how the Burton/Depp movie polarized the fandom.  I have to say that I feel to a growing degree in a separate camp now from mainstream fandom since to date I have not really cared for any of the attempts to do remakes of DS.  (I make an exception from the original 1970-71 feature films; for one thing, they were done with the same cast, writers, and production unit by and large as the original series.)  I find the topic of the Burton/Depp film a profound bore.  And no, I haven't seen it yet.  I think about seeing it and then think of 99 other things on my list of things to do...

It would be interesting to see the Spencer productions fanvid in its entirety.  I have to confess that apart from Daryl's deliciously over-the-top performance as Julia, the trailer just seemed to lack that "spark" I recall from "Save our cemeteries."  I'd still like to see the entire video.

G.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 05, 2012, 02:20:42 PM

One of the things I did take note of during the weekend festivities was the lack of checking badges and no one picked up our little blue tickets at the banquet.  I was told going in to keep it out on the table and someone would take it but that never happened.  I tucked mine in my bag before the entree came for a keepsake and not one person asked for it. At Lyndhurst I wore a sweatshirt most of the day and had my badge under that.  No one asked me where it was. At the very end of the day on Sunday as some of the fans were in line for autographs I overheard a women check in to the hotel and ask what was going on.  One of the hotel workers told her a Dark Shadows convention and she asked " Is it free" and he told her Yes!

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 05, 2012, 04:10:37 PM

Regarding the Depp/DS film, given the intense situations that have broken out on Facebook, it was probably an extremely smart move on Sharon Smyth's part that she didn't try in any way to fan the flames between the two camps. Though when the subject of the film came up, one thing that could have been interesting might have been if Pierson had mentioned how really well the film has been consistently doing at the box office for more than the last month. Though maybe he did and no one has yet mentioned that in their reports, or maybe they simply missed him saying it. Pierson often makes remarks that are complete tangents to what's actually going on, so one never knows when he's likely to say something.  [wink2]

On the other hand, it was great to read in the reports that Pierson said the NoDS restoration IS still moving forward.  [clap]

And when it comes to the idea of a DS Fest Cruise, I'm sort of down the middle. I do think it could be fun - but at the same time I'd miss being able to get into the city if the mood struck me, which more often than not it does at some point during the NY Fests. I suppose we'll just have to wait to see if the cruise even materializes before any of us decides to attend.  ;)

As for the reports, links, and photos shared, thanks so much to everyone who has done so. Everything that's been shared has been fantastic!  [thumb]

And speaking of fantastic, I love your new "Collins Clan" avatar, Teresa.  8)

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 05, 2012, 05:10:03 PM

other than parker and smyth's brief remarks what was the attitudes about the film at this year's fest anyways???


it's sounding like it barely came up...which is remarkable given that a 100+ million dollar film based on this source material just came out two months ago. i mean scott and parker were IN the darn thing and since it's been released to the public they're no longer bound by confidentiality agreements. didn't they have anything interesting to say? what about pierson?

was there any merchandising other than scott's book? or was the whole thing the elephant in the room? there certainly are many at this board who enjoyed the film, were fans of it in abundance?

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on August 05, 2012, 05:56:50 PM

I agree michael.  It looks from the photos that have been shared as if in at least one major space, the decor of the room was provided by these giant standee posters from the Burton/Depp project.  Amanda's notes about Sharon's remarks are the first I've heard of the movie being explicitly mentioned.

It all seems quite strange...

G.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 05, 2012, 06:27:14 PM

No , they all  mentioned it and talked about the fact that they know there is a separation of fans who like and dislike the movie.  The area where the chair and big poster board was in a corner.  It may look ominous but wasn't and many enjoyed getting their photo.  Everyone agreed that the movie does not take the place of the original .  Once all the fans were in the same room, seeing the people they have grown to love over the years and listening to what the cast was up to, I think we all just had a good time.  I think it was KLS that said Johnny Depp was very gracious to them and made sure he said in front of the movie crew and other stars that if it wasn't for Jonathan Frid they wouldn't be there. One of the ladies mentioned liking the 1970's clothing in the movie. While it was a smaller crowd and venue it still had some of the aspects of the bigger fest as people came up to a microphone to ask questions, there was merchandise to buy, plenty of time to get autographs, see the house and chat with friends.  So nothing really strange or unusual.  The new movie is such a small part of Dark Shadows regardless if you love it or hate it so I didn't think it would take up too much discussion time.  I did meet many first timers who said they got into the original series once the marketing came out for the new movie.  That is awesome!

As far as Jim Pierson, I did notice that he wasn't running around as much and I actually saw him sit down and eat something.  He was sitting at the registration table at one point just chatting with people and complimented my friend on her outfit.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 05, 2012, 06:42:10 PM

i guess there are different ways of looking at things but i can't consider a 100+ million dollar film, with an a-list cast, that's just been released around the world and seen by millions of people and made many, many millions of dollars a "small part" of dark shadows. at all.


it strikes me as HUGE. which is why it's odd it seems to have gotten so little play at the fest.


i mean what's "bigger" on the DS landscape at the moment? some crappy, juvenile comics? another of lara's awful books? weird.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on August 05, 2012, 07:21:32 PM

I think somewhere up there Philippe mentioned that Lara alluded to "our little show" and speculated that it would still be remembered--and watched--long after the Burton/Depp behemoth had been relegated to a footnote.

I'm imagining her saying this with one of her catlike smiles...

G.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 05, 2012, 07:23:21 PM

Nope, definitely was not a huge part at least from what I saw.  I was in and out of the tent quite often enjoying the grounds when it wasn't pouring rain,  taking photos of the house and just taking in the beauty of Lyndhurst so I may have missed some of that part but it wasn't a big topic of conversation while conversing with other fans.  Most just asked one another if they had seen it and their thoughts.  They gave away some small movie posters for the new movie but mine was destroyed by the rain.

I purchased a DVD from MPI ( The beginning  of the series) for $20 and wish I got more, as well as a sweatshirt $15 and t-shirt $10.  There were lots of photos for sale, videos and of course each cast member had their own photos for sale.  Some bobble head dolls seemed to sell quite well.  I looked at some things and wondered  " who would buy that" but then I guess it comes down to one mans trash it another mans treasure. There were some cool t-shirts with the new movie cast but I did not see where they were selling them and thought maybe someone just made them up themselves to sell. 

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 05, 2012, 07:28:49 PM

Also wanted to mention that the food they had available at Lyndhurst was awesome! I had worried about that since I don't eat meat and was pleased to see them setting up grills outside where you could get burgers including a lentil burger, salads with or without grilled chicken, chips and ice cream.  They kept cost down as well .  I ordered the lentil burger, salad and a drink for under $10.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 05, 2012, 07:30:55 PM

interesting. odd but interesting. i'm stunned pierson wasn't plugging the dvd release like nobody's business.


i suppose i shouldn't be that surprised given that the 1991 series is a virtual nonentity within the fest community. it would appear that the whole enterprise concerns itself almost exclusively with the OS.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 05, 2012, 07:47:11 PM

Here are a few photos from Saturday night at the Doubletree where most seemed to congregate.  The lobby was pretty much a big Dark Shadows living room with many of us lounging around quite comfortably.  There is also a photo of Joan and I ( she is on here I believe) taken after the banquet on Sunday afternoon.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 05, 2012, 07:59:25 PM

It's terrible to say, but one reason the film may have been kept as a low profile was just so that there wouldn't be even the slightest chance of any incidents during the Fest like those that I previously referenced have occurred on Facebook. Most fans do behave civilly toward each other and there's never really been such incidents at a Fest. But then, there's never been a division in fandom to the extent that there has been one over the Depp/DS film. There were certainly people who loved the '91 DS and those who didn't. And it's only natural for fans to voice their likes and dislikes when it comes to a particular DS version/storyline. That's the whole point of forums like this and elsewhere. But having been active in fandom for over 25 years, to my knowledge there have never been such unfortunate verbal melees as there have been with regard to the Depp/DS film.  [ghost_blink]  And the fact that there have been is actually quite sad when one considers that we're all supposed to be mature adults.  [ghost_sad]

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 05, 2012, 08:02:58 PM

Thanks so much for sharing more of your photos, Teresa.  [ghost_smiley]

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 05, 2012, 08:08:41 PM

I think you hit the nail on the head MB! I wish more people would post photos. I love seeing the fest through other peoples eyes.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on August 05, 2012, 08:23:08 PM

I personally am much, MUCH more upset over WB's reneging of their promise to restore the NoDS film for the disc release than I am over anything to do with the Burton/Depp ... project. I am nearly as upset over various aspects of the handling of the October release of the films but won't go into that now.

I haven't spewed the vitriol here out of respect for the general tone of civility that MB and Midnite prefer to maintain here, but believe me, my opinions on the matter would sound right at home amongst the Collinsport longshoremen after a long day spent out in the boats.

cheers, G.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Cousin_Barnabas on August 05, 2012, 09:21:22 PM

Quote from: Gothick on August 05, 2012, 08:23:08 PM

I personally am much, MUCH more upset over WB's reneging of their promise to restore the NoDS film for the disc release than I am over anything to do with the Burton/Depp ... project. I am nearly as upset over various aspects of the handling of the October release of the films but won't go into that now.

I feel you, G.  I really do. 

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 05, 2012, 09:29:35 PM

Though at least if we can believe Pierson, the restoration of NoDS will eventually take place.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Lydia on August 05, 2012, 09:33:33 PM

Those stand-up pictures of characters from the Depp movie that were on display at Lyndhurst are going to be thrown out in a couple of months if nobody wants them, Jim Pierson said.  He tried to auction them off with a beginning bid of $100 (complete with instructions on how to set them up; Jim seemed especially smitten with those) but nobody was interested.  I liked them (the pictures, not the instructions, though I didn't get to see the instructions close up the way Jim did) and hope somebody wants them.  I don't have room for them myself.  If anybody is interested, he or she should call Lyndhurst and see what can be worked out.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 05, 2012, 09:41:09 PM

Cool Lydia, I missed the auction and did not know that. 

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 05, 2012, 09:59:09 PM

As much as I love the Depp/DS film, I wouldn't have bid on them either. Like you, Lydia, I'd have no place to put them.  [ghost_nowink]  But worse still, I have no idea how I would have gotten them home - well, unless the Fest was going to mail them to me.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Darren Gross on August 05, 2012, 11:17:36 PM

Quote from: Mysterious Benefactor on August 05, 2012, 09:29:35 PM

Though at least if we can believe Pierson, the restoration of NoDS will eventually take place.

Well, I'm not going to give up trying, that's for sure.  We'll keep trying to get other divisions at WB to make it happen.

That said, what Jim was referring to was only that we're going to keep soldiering on, and we'll finish up the re-looping at least in the near future- so at least we'll be safely covered should things begin to move forward 5 or 10 years from now.  The actors aren't going to be around forever.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gothick on August 06, 2012, 01:17:07 AM

Thanks, Darren, for not giving up.

I think at this stage in the scheme of things, you're a better man than I am with all of this... if there were a possibility of an outfit like Criterion having a swing with it, that would be different, but from what I understand the rights to the material remains under the evil thrall of the Deatheaters at WB Home Video.  And do they care?  NO.

hugs, Steve

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Post by: Gerard on August 06, 2012, 01:57:07 AM

I am shocked - shocked - that the film was downplayed at this festival.  Too bad some didn't like it.  I wasn't enamored of the '91 remake (palm trees, palm trees, palm trees!!!!!) and thought it was an overblown remake of HoDS, rather than being "true to the original" (a statement that has been oft used with regards to those who didn't like the Depp/Burton film).  But I watched it religiously and was very upset at its cancellation.  No one "down-played" those from that version who attended, with all glory, laud and honor, other DS festivals.  Then there was the 2004 version that never saw the light of day, and had plenty of critics, but it appears they had no problem showing the unfinished pilot at following festivals over and over and over again.

The Depp/Burton film should've been the who reason for this festival, held up high and honored (just as the other versions based upon the OS have been honored).  People involved in the movie should've been invited to attend (maybe they were, I don't know).  Again, so what if some in DS fandom didn't like it because it didn't stand up to their "ideal" of the original.  They didn't have to come.  They could've stayed home and sulked.  Nothing about any of the remakes (and that includes HoDS and NoDS) was true to the OS.  All had stuff that deviated from the OS and were blatantly stupid.  Heck, much in the OS was stupid.  I know this has been discussed before, but having Barnabas trying to figure out the world of 1972 in the Depp/Burton film made far more sense, even when done comedically (of course it would be comedic), than all the remakes that had him showing up at Collinwood a few days after being released, perfectly clothed by Birkenstock's (would Barnabas know and understand how to use a zipper?) and fitting right in.  That was stupid.  It was stupid when Jonathan Frid did it in the OS and HoDS, and it was stupid when Ben Cross did it in '91.  (I don't know how it was handled in the aborted '04 remake because I never saw it.)

Stupid.

But we loved it all.  It's DS.  The Depp/Burton film is DS, just as much as is the OS, HoDS, NoDS, '91 and '04.  To try and "keep it on the down-low" at that "festival" so some fans wouldn't get upset and make a scene is simply shocking.  Millions were spent bringing it back to us and it has made $335 million dollars world wide.  That's not something to ignore, but to celebrate.

But I will say, that JP person trying to auction off huge cut-out billboards starting at a hundred smackers each, or else threatening to send them to the trash is also stupid.  I always wonder if the JP guy has his head screwed on tight.  I have thought for a long time that it's been time for the Curtis family and anyone else associated with DS to find some way to flush him.  The guy doesn't have an ounce of business sense inside his head.  He scowers youtube and other places to remove anything that doesn't make money for whatever he does regarding this franchise.  Having lots of DS stuff on youtube and elsewhere in cyberspace is free publicity and brings in more potential customers for the stuff he wants to sell to make more money.  He can't figure that out?  Call out the lawyers?

Now that's really, really stupid.

Gerard

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 06, 2012, 02:34:53 AM

having learned during this filmaking process, although not at this fine board, how many emotionally unstable and even disturbed people there are in this fanbase i guess maybe they wanted to keep people pacified and not "upset" anyone.  [ghost_rolleyes]

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 06, 2012, 02:51:05 AM

AND since the depp film has largely left theaters and will very soon be out on DVD you'd think they might have actually, you know, showed it at some point in the event's programming.


or were they running HODS for the hundredth time???

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Teresa on August 06, 2012, 07:52:08 PM

I have no idea of the legalities of showing something privately before the DVD comes out but I am sure there would have been an interest especially for those who have not had a chance to see it. I myself just recently went to see it.  They did show both NODS and HODS starting at 6:00.  I left at around 4 so not sure who stuck around but I know a few in the hotel mentioned staying until the end.  I am very pleased that those I came into contact with seemed to be respectful to each other in person but I have seen some of the negative postings on Facebook pages. I tend to ignore that behavior and anyone that tries to instigate which is why I removed myself from most of the pages on there.  Obviously there is still a huge interest in the fest and I think the DVD will do well and have more of an impact at future fest.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: KMR on August 06, 2012, 08:37:47 PM

Quote from: michael c on August 06, 2012, 02:51:05 AM

AND since the depp film has largely left theaters and will very soon be out on DVD you'd think they might have actually, you know, showed it at some point in the event's programming.

I think it probably would have been very difficult negotiating with Warner Bros. to arrange a screening of the new DS film at the fest, especially seeing as it's still in its theatrical run (regardless of how many or few theaters are currently showing it). And of course, even if it were already out on DVD, they'd still have to negotiate with WB for a public exhibition (yes, showing it at the fest would be "public").

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Cousin_Barnabas on August 07, 2012, 12:18:43 AM

Publicly showing major, and I mean major, films before their release on DVD is definitely doable.  I know a group that did it with The Dark Knight and continues to do it with every large release, though they are skipping Depp Shadows for the time being.   

But, for a film to qualify, it usually has to have finished its theatrical run.  Plus, a public exhibition costs a fairly hefty sum.  So showing Depp Shadows at this year's fest had, at least, two things going against it. 

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Janet the Wicked on August 07, 2012, 12:44:58 AM

Quote from: Gerard on August 06, 2012, 01:57:07 AM

I always wonder if the JP guy has his head screwed on tight.  I have thought for a long time that it's been time for the Curtis family and anyone else associated with DS to find some way to flush him.  The guy doesn't have an ounce of business sense inside his head.

Thank you. I rather enjoyed that. LOL!

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: KMR on August 07, 2012, 12:48:23 AM

Quote from: Cousin_Barnabas on August 07, 2012, 12:18:43 AM

But, for a film to qualify, it usually has to have finished its theatrical run.  Plus, a public exhibition costs a fairly hefty sum.  So showing Depp Shadows at this year's fest had, at least, two things going against it.

Yep, CB, that's pretty much what I was getting at. I know that it's not at all unusual for, say, college campuses to show fairly recent releases before they are out on DVD, but again, the first theatrical run has been played out, and it probably costs a pretty penny. (Old films are going to be much cheaper.)

It'll be interesting to see if the film makes it into the screening rotation at future fests, though!  (Will they have to check bags at the entrance, confiscating tomatoes, eggs, etc.?  [ghost_wink])

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Cousin_Barnabas on August 07, 2012, 02:44:15 AM

Absolutely, KMR!  And with Depp Shadows, they also have to tack on the cost of Event Security to stop people from vandalizing the screen, as you so rightly pointed out.   [ghost_wink]  The costs just keep adding up!

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 07, 2012, 02:59:41 AM

Of course you're both just joking.  [ghost_grin]  And I'm always up for that - even at any version of DS' expense.  [ghost_tongue2]  But one would certainly hope that in reality no one would ever be so immature as to even attempt to throw much less actually throw tomatoes, eggs, etc. at the screen or at each other.  [ghost_shocked]

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 07, 2012, 03:05:34 AM

this is second hand but i heard on FB that during the q&a with KLS she was asked what she thought of the maggie/vicki "merger" in the film...

supposedly she replied that it was "ridiculous" and "made no sense". i'll second that. it was my least favorite part of the film.


can anyone here confirm her remarks?

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Gerard on August 07, 2012, 04:04:29 AM

I loved the merger of Maggie Evans and Victoria Winters in the film.  For those of us who are die-hard fans of Maggie, we were able to get her.  Besides, let's be honest - Dan Curtis did it in the OS, and did it poorly.  He took Maggie, who was a tough broad that survived some of the worst things thrown at her and became milque-toast like Victoria when she took on the role of being the ingenue who was almost as dumb as Vicki - almost as dumb, because no one can be that dumb.  When I explained to friends who went to see the movie about Maggie Evans and Victoria Winters and how they were melded in the movie, they thought that was fantastic.

Gerard

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 07, 2012, 04:18:30 PM

with all due respect i think that you were so pleased that maggie was unexpectedly in the film you're willing to overlook anything. like the fact that she changed her name on the way to a job interview she was already expected for. [ghost_rolleyes]

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 07, 2012, 05:44:54 PM

Honestly, it didn't matter to me one iota if Maggie was in the film or not ([ghost_nowink]), however, I mostly agree with what Gerard said regarding the Magtoria situation of the original series - and I thought the Maggie/Vicki twist in the film was a clever acknowledgement of it to original fans, even if it may have come across as a bit illogical. Though I would gently remind that this is a topic to discuss the Tarrytown event, so I would ask that if there is to be any further discussion of that particular plot point that doesn't directly relate to whether or not KLS made the remarks mentioned in reply #78, please let it be addressed in the "Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Is In Release!!" topic on the "Current Talk" board.  [ghost_wink]  Thanks.  [ghost_smiley]

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: CastleBee on August 07, 2012, 08:14:10 PM

Well, I have to say - this thread has been one of the most entertaining things I’ve read online in a long time.  My sincere thanks for all the fest reports and a special thanks to Philippe (who I still think of as Vlad from the old days) for starting the thread.   Gerard – you really crack me – I was laughing out loud more than once.  I think you were spot on with the Maggie-Vicki meld too.  Thanks again for the great read everyone. 

Unfortunately I missed the festivities once again so I can’t contribute anything new – written or graphic.  So, instead here is my (now antique) addition to the photos...a trip down memory lane so to speak…which, regardless of age, I'll bet many of you may recognize.

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z71/castlebee/PathSunnyside_TarrytownNY.jpg)

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: Lydia on August 08, 2012, 03:25:07 PM

Quote from: michael c on August 07, 2012, 03:05:34 AM

this is second hand but i heard on FB that during the q&a with KLS she was asked what she thought of the maggie/vicki "merger" in the film...

supposedly she replied that it was "ridiculous" and "made no sense". i'll second that. it was my least favorite part of the film.


can anyone here confirm her remarks?

Michael, I was there for all of KLS's question and answer session, and I don't remember anything like this.  And I find it hard to imagine her saying such a thing; she's always very diligent about putting a positive spin on everything.

Title: Re: Reporting from Tarrytown
Post by: michael c on August 08, 2012, 07:58:00 PM

thanks for the clarification lydia...


i would find it surprising if KLS had that to say. on the contrary since she enjoys inserting herself into the center of all things DS i'll bet she was pleased as punch that "maggie" ended up having a part in the film.