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Title: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on August 10, 2010, 09:12:03 PM
Love today's two-shot of Liz and Roger from 1966.

Liz looks deeply concerned, while Rog is smugly gloating--this pretty much encapsulates their respective views on David from the time of the original storyline.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on August 11, 2010, 04:46:29 AM
today's shot of liz and carolyn from 1966 appears to feature liz during the very odd and mercifully brief moment when she trades her usual towering beehive for the weird "geisha" hairstyle.

hamalain went off the deep end with that one.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on August 11, 2010, 05:00:45 AM
mscbryk, I was just about to comment on that!  This is a great showcase of that very dowdy hairdo poor Joan was saddled with for a few episodes.  I do love the shot overall--again, it really seems to capture something essential in Liz's troubled relationship with Carolyn during the 1966 storyline (which of course continued well into 1967).

It's too bad we never saw whichever of the local beauty salon ladies would come up to Collinwood every couple of weeks to do Liz's hair during her years of seclusion at the Great House.  I remember in the mid 1960s my Great Aunt Madleine, who was a trained beautician, doing hair on the side in her kitchen.  We'd go over to visit and the entire kitchen had that odd chemical odor from the hair products; hair-clips and newspapers were everywhere, and the gossip and chatter were at a terrific volume, and I think the radio was tuned to the latest pop hits (no doubt, the music of the Shangri-las, the Supremes, the Ronettes, and all the other wonderful artists we had back then).

It would have been great fun to see Liz venting to her pet beautician about how everyone at Collinwood was driving her nuts.

Shortly thereafter, of course, we would have cut to a scene of Liz, in pearls, drop earrings, black cocktail gown and high heels running the vacuum cleaner...

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 11, 2010, 05:06:40 AM
Love today's two-shot of Liz and Roger from 1966.

Liz looks deeply concerned, while Rog is smugly gloating--this pretty much encapsulates their respective views on David from the time of the original storyline.

And here it is:

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1966: Ep #32 - Roger wants to know why Liz didn't tell him
about David.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Julia99 on August 11, 2010, 07:51:11 PM
wow that is bad...and ages her 15 years!
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 12, 2010, 12:39:09 AM
today's shot of liz and carolyn from 1966 appears to feature liz during the very odd and mercifully brief moment when she trades her usual towering beehive for the weird "geisha" hairstyle.

Yes that is one, uh, interesting hairstyle:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0810ds_0.jpg)

Thank heavens it didn't stick around. Although, as I recall, it was often seen on, um, more mature female TV characters. Why? Only the hairstylists of the time know for sure.  [wink2]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on August 13, 2010, 04:38:22 AM
On the capture from yesterday, I was charmed by the detail of the big seashell ashtray in the Blue Whale.  That gave the scene a genuine touch of an old seaside resort in New England.  And Vicki's dress, even with the familiar sleeveless design, seemed unusual.

Great choices on these, MB!

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 13, 2010, 06:03:19 PM
Here's that capture from the Blue Whale from Ep #34:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0811ds_0.jpg)

And, yes, Vicki dress is something different for her. Here's a better shot of it from the current slideshow:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0812ds_1.jpg)


(Ep #34 also features the scandalous scene in which Joe catches Vicki in Burke's hotel room with him. The slut!! ... [lghy])
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: B.Collins on August 15, 2010, 07:28:04 AM
I've been reading these Robervations as of late. & i quite Enjoy Her notes at the bottom on the current episode that i happen to be reading. & you guys  & gals are right though the hairstyles back than & hell even NOW are & can be funny looking on some people. it's kinda like the stylist didn't know what they were doing.


i've seen some pretty bad ones on different people as i'm sure everyone here has that makes me question what made these people get that particular style? he he. but you are right of course about poor Joan, you tend to wonder what her thoughts were behind the scenes? i would have asked for a raise if i had to have a hair style like that! wouldn't you? he he
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on August 16, 2010, 02:04:48 AM
Tonight's new Robservations capture highlights how in 1966 characters in the same scene appeared to be inhabiting different seasons.  Liz's stylish matronly wool coat-dress looks perfect for a brisk Fall morning in Maine, while Vicki's summery sleeveless number (the same dress we've seen in the recent captures, which makes perfect sense because Art Wallace was still writing the series as if it were playing out in real time, one half hour per day) seems like just the thing for a hot aestival afternoon chasing after that little devil David.

I love the expressions the two are wearing in this snapshot.  Liz seems to be saying "I don't think I can bear this ghastly coiffure much longer!" while Vicki seems to be offering sympathy--"It really doesn't make you look as if you're pushing 70, Mrs. Stoddard."

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 17, 2010, 08:27:12 PM
A bit late, but here it is:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0815ds_0.jpg)

As for the clothes choices, apparently even the August nights are cool at Collinwood, hence Liz' outfit - but Vicki must have been a lot more hot blooded than we ever realized.  [b003]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on August 17, 2010, 09:39:40 PM
Thanks, MB.  As for Vicki, Carolyn at least was in no doubt whatsoever as to what Vicki was doing, UNCHAPERONED, in Burke Devlin's room at the Inn! (i. e., exactly what Carolyn herself had planned for Mr. D.)

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on August 18, 2010, 03:57:17 AM
so true gothick,

in an era when "does she or doesn't she?" applied to more than just haircolor miss winters certainly risked her "rep" heading in and out of mr.devlin's suite unescorted.

and yes the paisley sleeveless was something of a one-off. i believe she also wore it to the infamous "dinner party" at casa evans. much like liz's "geisha style" it never reappeared after this little batch of episodes.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on August 19, 2010, 03:49:10 AM
and of course these pictures remind me of what an elaborate hairdo vicki was outfitted with in the early days. here it's exquisite.

as delightful as it was the massive fall was somewhat unnecessary since in later years we see that alexandra already possessed the most lustrous head of hair imaginable.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on September 06, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
Love the two-shot of Stokes and Julia from episode 835 (1969) posted on Robservations today in the slideshow (you have to click all the way through the arrows to get to it).  Not only is it an atmospheric shot of the two (although the lighting and angle could be improved for Stokes), it somehow sums up a lot of what so fascinated me about the series back in the day.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 07, 2010, 06:29:07 PM
Love the two-shot of Stokes and Julia from episode 835 (1969) posted on Robservations today in the slideshow (...).  Not only is it an atmospheric shot of the two (although the lighting and angle could be improved for Stokes), it somehow sums up a lot of what so fascinated me about the series back in the day.

Here it is:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0905ds_15.jpg)

I love it too. And I also think that occasionally and deliberately having characters (like Stokes there) in half-shadow and/or low-level colored lighting was very effective and atmospheric.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on September 08, 2010, 01:13:26 PM
Thanks for sharing that image here, MB.  I agree about the atmospheric use of shadowy lighting and chiaroscuro on the show.  If I'm remembering correctly, it was very unusual to have such lighting effects on a soap opera in 1966--another area in which the series production team pioneered.

It's not quite as dramatic but I do love today's shot from episode 314 of Julia and Willie.  It underlines how subtly these two actors played many of their scenes together.  I always love watching them do their thing on the show.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on September 09, 2010, 03:17:06 AM
And tonight, there's an even more fabulous snapshot of Barnabas and Julia from episode 315 which encapsulates the dynamic between the two in the original 1967 story even more dramatically than yesterday's still from 314 with Julia and Willie.

Barn gloats, and Julia struggles to hold her ground--but still has an ace up her sleeve.  Love it.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on September 10, 2010, 03:43:05 AM
Tonight's highlights for me are a wonderful shot of Edmonds and Bennett having a chin-to-chin confrontation in the Great Hall from 1966, and Julia looking like she's coming very slowly out of the hangover that ate the Universe in 1897 with a worried Edward and Pansity hovering nearby.

Fabulous shots. Thanks MB!

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2010, 07:05:47 PM
So that people will still be able to tell what's being talked about, here's the shot/caption from Ep #314:

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1967: Ep #314 - Dr. Hoffman encourages Willie to keep what
he's learned a secret from Barnabas for David's sake.

And here's the shot/caption from Ep #315:

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1967: Ep #315 - Dr. Hoffman tries to persuade Barnabas not
to harm David if he finds him.

(The expressions on their faces do indeed perfectly encapsulate their '67 relationship.)


And while we're at it, I have to add that I love this moment from 9/8's Ep #54

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1966: Ep #54 - Burke accuses Roger and Sam of having set
him up.

(Love the expression on Roger's face.)

And this moment from 9/8's Ep #836

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1969: Ep #836 - 1969: After Julia declares that David is dead,
 Quentin's laughter fills the room.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 11, 2010, 03:16:51 PM
Tonight's highlights for me are a wonderful shot of Edmonds and Bennett having a chin-to-chin confrontation in the Great Hall from 1966, and Julia looking like she's coming very slowly out of the hangover that ate the Universe in 1897 with a worried Edward and Pansity hovering nearby.

And so that people will still know what these are about, here they are:

Ep #55

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0909ds_2.jpg)

And Ep #837

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0909ds_8.jpg)
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Julia99 on September 13, 2010, 01:15:12 PM
I really really wish this last one was on "Caption This". . . I might offer up something like this--
Edward-listen Pansy, I've found a third for tonight.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on September 13, 2010, 04:45:16 PM
i haven't seen the 1897 storyline in years so could someone please refresh my memory?

how did julia end up in 1897? and why? wasn't one grayson hall character(magda)enough?

at least she traveled with her plaid coat. the characters were always so vulnerable,so defenseless to whatever supernatural shenanigans the writers could cook up that sometimes i think that they wore heavy,stiff wool and tweed coats year round almost as a defense mechanism. almost like some sort of armour. it made them feel somehow less exposed.

it's a thought at least.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Julia99 on September 13, 2010, 09:17:37 PM
how did julia end up in 1897? and why? wasn't one grayson hall character(magda)enough?

via the I Ching 'cause Barnabas writes to her (and she finds the letter in that secretary in the front room of the Old House) that he is trapped and going to die.  She throws the wand and ends up passed out on the front lawn of Collinwood in her scandalous short skirt and short hair.  

And 1 Grayson character enough?  What are you tempting the gods today?     [ghost_wink]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 14, 2010, 03:32:40 AM
I really really wish this last one was on "Caption This"

Your wish is my command:
Re: Episode #0837
[ghost_smiley]

One slight correction, though:

She throws the wand

She actually sits down in front of the wands that Barnabas had already thrown and arranged, which is interesting because it appeared from the explanation of the I Ching that the person was supposed to throw the wands themselves. But hey, DS would hardly be DS if it always stuck to the rules.  [ghost_grin]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on September 18, 2010, 04:02:01 AM
The final image in today's Robservation slideshow includes a shot from what I recall as having been Clarice Blackburn's final appearance on the series.  It seems fitting somehow that what we are shown is a moment from a scene with Grayson; I always thought the two actresses had wonderful chemistry onscreen whenever they worked together.

It's nice to reflect that Clarice's debut on the series as Sarah Johnson in 1966 will be coming up soon, I believe (I may have missed it already).  Maybe there'll be a shot of her handing Maggie Evans a dime and saying something like "Thank you dear; you've been very kind.  Now, don't spend it all in one place."  Maggie's expression at that moment is really worth the price of admission...

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 20, 2010, 06:10:18 PM
A bit late, but here it is:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0917ds_11.jpg)
1970: Ep #1104 - Under Gerard's influence, Mrs. Johnson
lies to Julia that she had a dream that Barnabas is in danger.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on September 30, 2010, 12:59:14 AM
In tonight's new slide-show for Robservations, I love the first image for episode #69, and the first one for episode #330.  A gimlet-eyed Mrs Sarah Johnson hits the scene with a bang (did I miss her big scene in Sheriff Pat's office yesterday?) and Burke is understandably both delighted and maybe a little intimidated by this determined new ally.

The capture at the start of the four for episode 330 is a wonderful shot of Julia wearing THE coat--why on Earth she wasn't allowed to keep this one, and why they made her switch to that other nubby horror, has always mystified me.  (Of course I sometimes wonder whether Grayson simply walked home wearing this coat and conveniently forgot to bring it home--but I don't think that grey was her favorite color, judging from the candid snaps I've seen of what she wore on her way to and from the studio.)

I loved the image of Julia and Ben that figured in yesterday, or the day before's sequence from 1840. Julia looked just like a little girl at a party being told she couldn't have any ice cream when Ben was laying down the law about going anywhere near Barn's coffin.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Midnite on September 30, 2010, 01:30:43 AM
That is a beautiful coat!
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on October 22, 2010, 02:45:16 AM
The first image in the slideshow for episode 85 really captures the flavor of the early months of DS.  Liz is in the infamous roll-neck lime-green shroud, Carolyn has her hair up, and both women are absorbed in a heated discussion about the dating life of Miss Carolyn Stoddard and the not so minor peccadilloes thereof.

Just a marvelous moment that seems worthy of note.  Thanks for continuing this series, MB!

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 24, 2010, 06:07:28 PM
The first image in the slideshow for episode 85 really captures the flavor of the early months of DS.  Liz is in the infamous roll-neck lime-green shroud, Carolyn has her hair up, and both women are absorbed in a heated discussion about the dating life of Miss Carolyn Stoddard and the not so minor peccadilloes thereof.

Just a marvelous moment that seems worthy of note.

And here it (finally) is:

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1966: Ep #85 - Carolyn isn't going to listen as Liz tells her
that she's lucky Joe hasn't taken a dozen girls out.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on October 31, 2010, 05:40:24 AM
There are some delectable Halloween treats for Grayson Hall fans in today's new slideshow.  The scene in Josette's room where Carolyn is convalescing from the experience of being turned into Barn's new vampire slave rates as one of the most creepy moments in the entire series, at least to me.  I am particularly fascinated because there was a substantial chunk from this scene missing in the version of the episode that I originally saw on the MPI tapes. (I unfortunately missed the episode during the 1976 syndication of these shows in my home area--by the time they got to this point in the story, I was attending college and only saw the show very occasionally if I went up to visit my folks for a few days.) It wasn't until 2 or 3 years ago when I finally got the DVDs for this period that I was able to see the restored version, which I had heard about on some fan site or other (might have even been an early incarnation of this Board--I can't remember when MPI announced the restoration of this episode).

This episode also rates as one of the moments where you think Julia couldn't possibly abase herself any further in attempting to get Barn to keep her in his life.  Of course, this is all just the prelude to Julia turning the tables on Barn in a way that shows that trifling with the good doctor's affections was a big mistake for this not-so-vulnerable vampire...

G.

Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 02, 2010, 06:47:42 PM
Here are the two moments referenced:

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1967: Ep #351 - Julia asks Carolyn how she is feeling after
Barnabas' attack.


(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1030ds_2.jpg)
1967: Ep #351 - Even though Barnabas refuses to continue
with the experiment, Dr. Hoffman insists that he still needs
her.

I agree that they're great stuff, as is this next scene that was also alluded to:

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1967: Ep #352 - With Vicki once again under hypnosis, Julia
warns she must subconsciously resist everything Barnabas
tries to do.

The whole period of Carolyn under Barnabas' control has just so many great moments, particularly between Carolyn and Julia.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 03, 2010, 07:44:02 PM
From "sometimes vicki's a pain in neck"
Vicki's trip to Bangor is up on the Robservations slideshow tonight.  Ah, the memories...

Yes, some great stuff. Not the least of which is the introduction of Frank Garner.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1101ds_0)
1966: Ep #92 - Vicki meets with Collins lawyer Richard
Garner about the ledger sheet.


(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1101ds_2)
1966: Ep #92 - Frank Garner reassures Vicki that he's going
to dig until he comes up with an answer.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1101ds_3)
1966: Ep #92 - Garner warns Liz about Vicki's visit.

It's too bad Conard Fowkes didn't hang around longer. (Just think of him as Peter Bradford instead of a certain someone else.) But being offered the lead in a new soap will do it almost every time...
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on November 04, 2010, 04:07:32 AM
Tonight's scene selection from episode 94 again arouses poignant feelings, particularly the wonderful snapshot of Vicki and Frank having dinner. It's nice to think of the two of them in an alternate universe eventually marrying, settling down and having a wonderful family.

And from 1967, as always it's a treat to see the shot of Julia ordering Carolyn from her room.  Drama so high it's stratospheric!

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on November 04, 2010, 04:36:27 AM
and oh that bangor pine...

it's the creamiest set ever. the wallpaper is to die for.

and alexandra in these eps. hair up. coat draped across shoulders. dreamy. very much the proper soap heroine. [hall2_kiss]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on November 05, 2010, 04:07:51 PM
Loving today's further selection of scenes from Bangor '66.  The look on Roger's face upon receiving Vicki's phonecall is priceless.

And meanwhile, in 1968 Julia is wearing that fabulous blue dress.  I know some people really do not like the dress, but I think it goes so well with our pale titian-haired beauty.

It's a good day in Collinsport.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 05, 2010, 06:05:17 PM
Tonight's scene selection from episode 94 again arouses poignant feelings, particularly the wonderful snapshot of Vicki and Frank having dinner.

And here it is:

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It's nice to think of the two of them in an alternate universe eventually marrying, settling down and having a wonderful family.

Yes, as opposed to being tossed over Widows' Hill by the cheap, insufferable pig! Grrrr.  [angry1]

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And from 1967, as always it's a treat to see the shot of Julia ordering Carolyn from her room.  Drama so high it's stratospheric!

Yes, I love that too:

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Not to mention:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1103ds_6.jpg)
1967: Ep #355 - Having caught on to his ruse, Julia informs
Barnabas that his 'little helper' won't find what she's
looking for.

Julia really gets to zap it to Barn.  [wink2]  [thumbleft]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 06, 2010, 06:23:10 PM
Loving today's further selection of scenes from Bangor '66.

With, of course, THE most important being:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1104ds_1.jpg)
1966: Ep #95 - Vicki becomes unnerved when she realizes
that THE PEN she lost looks like the one Burke gave Blair.

 [b003]

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The look on Roger's face upon receiving Vicki's phonecall is priceless.

Isn't it though:

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And meanwhile, in 1968 Julia is wearing that fabulous blue dress.  I know some people really do not like the dress, but I think it goes so well with our pale titian-haired beauty.

That dress:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1104ds_6.jpg)

didn't even appear on
The Dark Shadows Forum Fashion Poll-Spotlight:  Julia Hoffman, M. D., Ph.D.

I'd never even noticed. And I wasn't aware that there was a sizable dislike of it. But still, one would think it still would have been a part a poll. Interesting...

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It's a good day in Collinsport.

Indeed.

I also love:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1104ds_11.jpg)
1969: Ep #877 - Petofi explains how he has caused the
deceased master of Dartmoor prison, Garth Blackwood, to
reappear to deal with Aristede.

And Gerard's greed gets him much more than he bargained for:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1104ds_14.jpg)
1970: Ep #1138 - After a dream, Gerard returns to the
underground vault to find the mask and...
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on November 06, 2010, 08:03:56 PM
The blue dress definitely deserved to be in there.  I can't believe the gorgeous grey herringbone tweed coat ranked below some of the other things on that roster, particularly that nubby orange horror.

My absolutely favorite thing she ever wore is this scarf from the summer of 1970.  She only wore it for one half of an episode which makes me wonder whether it might have been a personal item of clothing.

I also love the dark green dress with a beautifully embroidered scarf that she wears in the scene where she hypnotises Daphne, also from the summer of 1970.

I read somewhere, in some fanzine, a theory or statement that a deliberate decision was made after Parallel Time 1970 to make Julia's look more feminine and glam as an eventual launch for a full-blown romance with Barnabas.  Since the show was canceled and Frid was already making signs of potentially leaving in Nov.-Dec. of 1970, we'll never know.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on November 07, 2010, 02:39:36 PM
did julia get a few new frocks for 1970? as i recall some of the duds were starting to get pretty threadbare by this point. i seem to remember the green tweed suit from 1967 still getting a frequent outing. someone from ABC costuming just kept shortening the hems.

as our "junior sophisticate" kathryn leigh scott seemed to get the most frequent wardrobe replenishment. she and nancy barrett got a couple of MAXISKIRTS around this time. [hall2_shocked]

needless to say liz's insane chartrues caftan thing from 1966 was still in heavy rotation. DCP was obviously determined to get every penny out of that thing.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Julia99 on November 07, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
Julia seemed to get serious fashion adjustments after Vicki returned from 1795 and Miss Hoffman was revealed to the Dr. (rich rich--one assumes) Hoffman and after the story returned from 1895/7?  She sported the very clingy dresses when hanging out with Quentin when trying to figure out what the heck was wrong with barnabas.

It does amaze me though to watch DS and see the actresses, Grayson and Alexandra who were both tall and lithe --appear to be squat and boxy in the dresses--i assume it was the camera they were using and off-the-rack (no tailoring) Orbach's outfits. Because just a few years before (3 to be precise), if you watch Iguana or in fan photos, you see how thin Grayson was -- you don't get that from the wool/twead wear or that blue dress--=BOX.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on November 07, 2010, 04:34:28 PM
"plastics".

that was the name of the game in the 1960's. so the fabrics were thick. and heavy. and synthetic. not an organic nor breathable fabric in sight.

this certainly lent the DS fashions a "boxy" look. come of the coats and dresses looked like they'd stand up on their own.

considering that a retailer was the credited supplier of the clothing i'm always surprised how much wear these garments got. some lasted the full five year run. i mean would have killed ohrbach's to send over new things now and then? [hall2_rolleyes]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 07, 2010, 04:59:25 PM
We're getting OT, but...

For what it's worth, about the only things that seemed to be updated with any regularity were coats (particularly the coats Liz wore - there's one stretch of eps where she seems to wear a new coat every time she goes out), and David's clothes. Though, of course, with David that was due in no small part to the fact that Henesy would outgrow David's old wardrobe.  [hall2_wink]  If DC had thought he could get away with David being dressed in pants that were up around his calves and shirts that were inches above his waist and bursting at the seams, he probably would have.  [hall2_grin]  [hall2_rolleyes]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 07, 2010, 05:23:04 PM
My absolutely favorite thing she ever wore is this scarf from the summer of 1970.  She only wore it for one half of an episode which makes me wonder whether it might have been a personal item of clothing.

Sort of getting back on topic, that outfit was featured in the September 3rd slideshow:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0903ds_9.jpg)

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I also love the dark green dress with a beautifully embroidered scarf that she wears in the scene where she hypnotises Daphne, also from the summer of 1970.

And that one in the September 16th slideshow:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0916ds_14.jpg)

and the September 17th slideshow (the capture of which is displayed back in Reply #26 on Page 2).
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Julia99 on November 07, 2010, 11:02:03 PM
DS fans stay on topic? heresey!

I like the orange outfit as well + her rocking the chain belt as she walks into the room before sitting at the desk to read..Later in the episode a bulky jacket covers up all the chicness going on there--
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on November 08, 2010, 09:26:02 PM
Today's slideshow is so cool!  First, we get episode 96 and a superb performance from Louis Edmonds in what really does incarnate the original Art Wallace concept of Roger Collins--the real monster of Collinwood.  That scene in the hut has a nail-biting suspense to it that really stands out.

Then, one of Julia's legendary showdowns with Nicholas Blair.  Every time fans kvetch about the Adam and Eve storyline and how much they hate it, I remember that that storyline gave us such classic, iconic moments as these.

And finally, Judith teaches the good Mr. Gregory Trask that revenge IS a dish best served cold.  Joan is so mind-blowingly fabulous in these scenes!  What class, and what utterly delectable gloating!  I originally wrote evil gloating but it was unquestionably an act on the side of the angels to remove Trask from the scene...

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on November 09, 2010, 02:47:54 AM
gothick...

of course today's showdown is the "better than heroin" catfight between "miss" hoffman and carolyn in the collinwood foyer. it's this scrumptious little subplot at it's "how dare you!" best. meow!

please, please don't forget that the collins family DRESSES for dinner and the cocktail hour and don't be late.

and by all means control yourself. YOU MUST.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on November 09, 2010, 03:55:37 AM
Ah yes, you're looking at the new show that MB switches in around 7 p.m.  I am saving those pictures for a bedtime treat.

I LOVE the Carolyn/Julia stuff and of course TOTALLY AGREE that it is better than heroin, better even the two sticks of land o'lakes lashed together in a rough-hewn manner.

When Carolyn starts talking about dressing for dinner, that whole scene just takes a detour into some weird zone all its own.  I can't imagine any other performers other than Barrett and Hall pulling that off. 

Solid platinum, just like Miss Carolyn's hair conditioner....

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on November 09, 2010, 05:00:39 AM
for this storyline nancy barrett got a series of A-line dresses...

combined with the scarves tied around her neck,her platinum halo of hair,her stiffened gait and odd monotone way of speaking she reminds me of some strange doll or android.

i forget if this confrontation was before or after carolyn was told by her mother to be polite to julia but i think the whole "dressing for dinner" line of conversation was supposed to be social niceties disguising the diabolical nature of the relationship during this period.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on November 09, 2010, 06:04:54 AM
In the shot included in the slideshow, Carolyn's attire has a very Addams Family look to it, at least in the big scene in the foyer with Julia.  I'll have to take another look at the episode soon.

Love the shot of Liz grilling Vicki upon the latter's return from Bangor.  And then the whole Betty Hanscomb kabuki.  Grand stuff!

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Lydia on November 09, 2010, 10:09:55 AM
When Carolyn starts talking about dressing for dinner, that whole scene just takes a detour into some weird zone all its own.  I can't imagine any other performers other than Barrett and Hall pulling that off.
Veering off-topic a bit...I was watching episode 196 recently, in which Jason McGuire worms his way into Collinwood.  He asks Liz if they dress for dinner, and she says no.  All I can figure is that Liz is always so elegantly dressed that she doesn't think about dressing for dinner, whereas Carolyn has to change her clothes to meet her mother's dinnertime standards.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 10, 2010, 06:58:15 PM
So much discussion that there's no way I can feature all of the recent captures, but here are several of my favorite moments (sorted by years rather than days):

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1107ds_2.jpg)
1966: Ep #96 - While taking refuge from the storm, Roger
tries a bit too eagerly to persuade Vicki not to mention
THE PEN to anyone, which raises her suspicions.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1108ds_2.jpg)
1966: Ep #97 - After Liz and Roger claim to see no
resemblance between Betty and Vicki...
(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1108ds_3.jpg)
1966: Ep #97 - ...Carolyn enters and says she thinks the
portrait looks exactly like Vicki.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1107ds_5.jpg)
1967: Ep #357 - Carolyn catches Julia with the notebook.
(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1107ds_7.jpg)
1967: Ep #357 - Julia feels 'almost safe' when Tony agrees
to put her notebook in his safe.
(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1108ds_5.jpg)
1967: Ep #358 - After Julia confronts Carolyn with the
hypodermic needle Carolyn put in her room, Carolyn
warns Julia that she must control herself.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1107ds_13.jpg)
1969: Ep #880 - ...all Judith will do is ask if he's enjoying his
'retreat.'

And we mustn't neglect from '68:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1108ds_11.jpg)
1968: Ep #620 - Angelique attacks Barnabas with the intent
of leaving him to die.



Veering off-topic a bit...I was watching episode 196 recently, in which Jason McGuire worms his way into Collinwood.  He asks Liz if they dress for dinner, and she says no.  All I can figure is that Liz is always so elegantly dressed that she doesn't think about dressing for dinner, whereas Carolyn has to change her clothes to meet her mother's dinnertime standards.

Given Carolyn's remarks to Julia, I always took Liz denial to Jason to mean that they didn't dress to the nines for dinner, meaning gowns and expensive jewels for the women and tuxedos for the men, which is what one very often sees in films and other TV shows. At Collinwood one was simply expected to wear something more appropriate than their version of daytime casual clothes. Though considering how most of the characters daytime attire consisted of wearing dresses and suits, there really wasn't much need for most of them to change their dress all that much.  ;)  (Though something like slacks on women (which wasn't seen that often on DS) would have definitely been frowned upon at the dinner table back then.)
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on November 11, 2010, 04:13:36 AM
I really enjoyed tonight's slideshow from episode #99, particularly the shot of Carolyn and Vicki chatting in the drawing room while Mrs Johnson's sharp ears eagerly absorb every word for her report to Burke.  Again, there's something about the composition that marks it as of the first year and how much realness the  production unit put into giving these characters regular, normal lives.

MB, that's a fabulous gallery of shots, and thanks for including Angelique's lustful vamping of Barn--that storyline came up early on in my viewing of the series, and made a big impression on me.  It's almost as if DS was doing a tribute to Hammer horror, and actually ahead of the game in one respect--it wasn't until 1970 that Hammer really introduced the prototype of the lustful, ruthless blonde female vampire, as incarnated by Ingrid Pitt in The Vampire Lovers.

I enjoyed the glimpse of Lorna Bell (aka Mrs. Chris Pennock), too.  I wish Lorna had been allowed to strut her stuff a little while longer--seems as if she would have been a fun character, somewhat in the Suki Forbes vein, although the actress seemed a lot less polished at this point in her career than was the deft and vixenish Jane Draper.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on November 11, 2010, 06:31:32 AM
i'll bet we're the only fanbase in the world that could spend days quite enjoyably discussing the minutiae of a fictitious group of people's dinnertime attire.

love it! [hall2_kiss]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 12, 2010, 10:29:38 PM
I really enjoyed tonight's slideshow from episode #99, particularly the shot of Carolyn and Vicki chatting in the drawing room while Mrs Johnson's sharp ears eagerly absorb every word for her report to Burke.  Again, there's something about the composition that marks it as of the first year and how much realness the  production unit put into giving these characters regular, normal lives.

Mrs. Johnson is always a joy to watch, whether she's clutching her chest and venting her feelings of doom and gloom, or she's simply tidying up the drawing room while lamenting the latest real or imagined problem at Collinwood. But she was really a hoot when she was a spy for Burke.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1110ds_0.jpg)
1966: Ep #99 - While dusting, Mrs. Johnson eavesdrops on
Vicki and Carolyn arguing about Burke, and later...

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thanks for including Angelique's lustful vamping of Barn

I love the entire VampAng period. Some amazing stuff.

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I enjoyed the glimpse of Lorna Bell (aka Mrs. Chris Pennock), too.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1110ds_13.jpg)
1970: Ep #1142 - Lamar has overheard Lorna Bell tell a
clueless Quentin that she'll see him later.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1110ds_14.jpg)
1970: Ep #1142 - And after Lorna's body is discovered with
the mark of Satan on her forehead...

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I wish Lorna had been allowed to strut her stuff a little while longer--seems as if she would have been a fun character, somewhat in the Suki Forbes vein, although the actress seemed a lot less polished at this point in her career than was the deft and vixenish Jane Draper.

Yes, it's a pity Lorna didn't get to hang around a bit more.

(I often say this whenever her name comes up but it really is too bad that Jane Draper was never brought back for another character. But alas...)


i'll bet we're the only fanbase in the world that could spend days quite enjoyably discussing the minutiae of a fictitious group of people's dinnertime attire.

We'll even discuss what they won't wear, like, had DS continued into the mid '70s, how the ever fastidiously dressed Barnabas wouldn't have been caught dead (no pun intended) wearing a leisure suit.  [wink2]  
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on November 20, 2010, 05:36:46 AM
Wow, Alexandra's last scene on the show was played opposite Grayson.  Interesting. That never really sank in before.

Love the shot of Barnabas rescuing Julia in 1840.  I have a lovely t-shirt that a dear friend silk-screened with this image on it.  Whenever I wear it, someone is always sure to stop me and exclaim, "Hey, I remember Barnabas Collins!"

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on November 21, 2010, 05:44:34 AM
Love the last shot from episode 889 in tonight's show; just a great shot of Julia with Chris.  It has that wonderful Gothic flavor that characterized the early period of the Leviathans storyline.

And purely for its sense of composition I love a shot of Julia with Trask and Randall Drew from the 1840 slideshow tonight.  Again, a Gothic, evocative moment, beautifully shot.

Thanks, MB!

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 21, 2010, 06:29:48 PM
Wow, Alexandra's last scene on the show was played opposite Grayson.  Interesting. That never really sank in before.

Certainly no slight on GH intended, but AM probably begged the writers to give her something to do in her last ep other than work with RD.  [wink2]

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1119ds_3.jpg)

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Love the shot of Barnabas rescuing Julia in 1840.  I have a lovely t-shirt that a dear friend silk-screened with this image on it.  Whenever I wear it, someone is always sure to stop me and exclaim, "Hey, I remember Barnabas Collins!"

That photo was also featured on the October calendar back in '03 when we could feature calendar photos:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1119ds_8.jpg)

I'm hoping the calendar photo feature will return soon after we switch from SMF 1 to SMF 2. (And that switch is probably only a few months away because SMF has already released SMF 2.0 RC4, so SMF 2.0 Final can't be too far away...)
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 23, 2010, 07:55:18 AM
Love the last shot from episode 889 in tonight's show; just a great shot of Julia with Chris.  It has that wonderful Gothic flavor that characterized the early period of the Leviathans storyline.

Here it is:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1120ds_11.jpg)

Poor Julia and Chris - they had no idea what was going on with Barn...

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And purely for its sense of composition I love a shot of Julia with Trask and Randall Drew from the 1840 slideshow tonight.  Again, a Gothic, evocative moment, beautifully shot.

And here it is:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1120ds_14.jpg)

Love the look Julia is giving Lamar.  [wink2]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Julia99 on November 24, 2010, 08:48:13 PM
okay...that capture of Chris and Julia begs to be added to "Caption This!"
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 25, 2010, 01:14:08 AM
Two captures from that scene are available:

[gorgeous]
[bawl]

But if whatever you have in mind requires the specific body language and expressions form the slideshow capture, it would be absolutely no problem to post it as well.  [hall2_smiley]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Julia99 on November 25, 2010, 01:58:17 AM
that top one is pretty good...but i could think of other things that would go with this specific slideshow capture..Julia's expressions are quite different in each shot, whereas Chris--his intense look in this shot conjours up ideas.   [hall2_rolleyes]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 25, 2010, 02:21:09 AM
OK - I will post it.  [hall2_smiley]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: B.Collins on November 30, 2010, 03:08:55 AM
in the 2nd one she looked like she was saying 2 things one what the hell do you want? & or you were the one who farted weren't you. with Lamar going IT WAS ME!  [hall2_grin] i can't think of anything for the 1st one.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on December 01, 2010, 04:38:18 PM
Ah, Mrs Sarah Johnson... you light up my life.

Thanks, MB.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on December 03, 2010, 06:45:32 AM
Just love tonight's shot of Liz and Vicki.  Joan Bennett could be so gracious and elegant, even when her character is called upon to read Vicki's beads.

That shot of Julia from 1968 at the top of this page always makes me laugh.  Of course it's a grimly tense moment in the story...

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 03, 2010, 06:42:10 PM
Ah, Mrs Sarah Johnson... you light up my life.

And here are her captures/captions from that day's slideshow to light up your life whenever needed:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1130ds_0.jpg)
1966: Ep #113 - Mrs. Johnson informs a shocked Burke
that Matthew has been the guilty one.


(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1130ds_2.jpg)
1966: Ep #113 - David reveals that he believes
Mrs. Johnson went to see Burke.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: B.Collins on December 04, 2010, 04:07:15 AM
as for Julia, i NEVER did like that hair-cut she got, well granted when she was introduced it was a wig. but that short hair on her didn't look good at all.  is it just me or do these pics make the show look like it needs

remastering? at least in the black & white episodes. good pics too
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 04, 2010, 06:47:56 PM
is it just me or do these pics make the show look like it needs remastering? at least in the black & white episodes.

The forum doesn't use captures taken from the DVDs (or the MPI tapes) because we don't want to infringe on MPI's copyright (enough people already get into trouble with that on YouTube). The captures are taken from videotapes made back when DS was running on the Sci-Fi Channel. And even though it was recorded from cable, the quality was still a bit iffy from time to time...
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 04, 2010, 06:57:35 PM
Just love tonight's shot of Liz and Vicki.  Joan Bennett could be so gracious and elegant, even when her character is called upon to read Vicki's beads.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1202ds_0.jpg)
1966: Ep #115 - Liz advises Vicki not to live in the past.

At that point Liz was certainly the person who would have known about living in the past.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on December 04, 2010, 09:05:39 PM
did liz ever actually WEAR that jacket or was it always over the shoulders?

funny that they just sort of drop the part of the plot that mrs.johnson hated the collins family and was just spying for burke. after the barnabas intro she becomes the devoted family servant but then nearly all the pre-barnabas plots get dropped.

i guess work is hard to find in collinsport.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: B.Collins on December 05, 2010, 02:07:32 AM
if you really think about it, when the 1st started Burke was really the main plot. yes there were others. & after he confronted Roger, he was pretty much background Material. yes they wrote a relationship in where he does eventually hook up with Vicki. but other than that he wasn't really the focal point anymore for some weird reason.


i don't think it had anything to do with "Mitchell Ryan" getting fired. this is just how it feels to me. my guess is they pretty much ran out of idea's of what to do with him? so they killed him off. yes i realize that "Anthony George" only had what  a 6 months contract wasn't it? or something like that. anyways,

that's my guess why they didn't keep the character at the very least. also that's my guess why they pretty much stopped the Mrs. Johnson Angle as well. i think they prolly felt both things had run it's course. which


makes sense to be honest. but the downside is they didn't come up with another good storyline really for either character.  if you also recall that Mrs. Johnson even later at some point also dissapeared as well.
sorry for my bad spelling he he. anyways, she at 1st just showed up less, than none at all until we see her in (1995) than never again at all. my guess "Clarice Blackburn" contract ran up as well. & just worked

when needed i guess i dunno? & thanxs for letting know about screen caps. i was curious as well. i recall watching my Old VHS tapes & than when i 1st started buying the dvd's i DID notice the difference on the picture/sound etc.. but thanxs for letting me know. i was just curious that's all
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 05, 2010, 02:54:06 AM
did liz ever actually WEAR that jacket or was it always over the shoulders?

The answer to that will be coming very soon - like the Robs slideshow after 7pm ET/4pm PT tomorrow.  [santa_wink]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on December 05, 2010, 06:15:50 AM
LOVE tonight's snapshot of Julia and Maggie from '68.  I always enjoy that scene; part of it is the irony, which truly is "the elephant in the room," that Julia's giving Maggie the message that she's lost an entire day.  It would have been cool if the writers had included dialogue for Maggie along the lines of "oh no, not again" but of course they didn't.  I just really like how that scene is played by the two actresses.  It's a moment of something approaching human reality in the midst of what has been an ultra phantasmagorical period in the storyline.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on December 06, 2010, 03:51:44 PM
maggie abruptly goes from bright red to dark brown hair during this moment.

"ultra phantasmagorical" is certainly a colorful...and generous...way to describe this period on the series. i actually found these weeks to be so schlocky and juvenile as to be almost unwatchable.

the storyline was in it's last dying gasps but it wasn't going down without making alot of noise first. adam and nicholas were on their way out and with betsy durkin hanging around as vicki it was a very odd little moment.

but the show has a way of turning itself around and just a few weeks later the quentin storyline wiped the slate clean and returned the show to it's rightful self.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 06, 2010, 10:49:40 PM
The answer to that will be coming very soon - like the Robs slideshow after 7pm ET/4pm PT tomorrow.  [santa_wink]

Just for everyone's benefit, here's the actual evidence:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1205ds_1.jpg)

And believe it or not, Liz is featured actually wearing the jacket for four slideshows in a row (12/5 - 12/8). I know - shocking, huh?! For a long while there it really did look like Liz would only throw the jacket over her shoulders and never actually wear it.  [b003]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 06, 2010, 11:00:14 PM
LOVE tonight's snapshot of Julia and Maggie from '68.  I always enjoy that scene; part of it is the irony, which truly is "the elephant in the room," that Julia's giving Maggie the message that she's lost an entire day.  It would have been cool if the writers had included dialogue for Maggie along the lines of "oh no, not again" but of course they didn't.  I just really like how that scene is played by the two actresses.  It's a moment of something approaching human reality in the midst of what has been an ultra phantasmagorical period in the storyline.

And here it is:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1204ds_4.jpg)
1968: Ep #638 - Maggie is upset to have 'lost' a whole
day of her life, but is relieved to learn that Nicholas is
gone.

Actually, I'm always saddened when the latter half of the 1968 storyline ends because, while I cannot stand Adam, I love the whole Ang-as-Vamp plot and everything associated with it.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on December 07, 2010, 01:26:56 AM
There's something quietly heartbreaking about Vicki's "sad plaid" little suitcase left abandoned in the foyer.  I seem to recall mscbryk writing quite an eloquent post on that suitcase.  There's such an air of "second hand Rose" about it.

Great captures from today's 1966 show.  On another topic, I agree with MB about the end of 1968.  I'm always sad to see that odd little batch of episodes come up.  There's something so jarring about these--the writing is for the most part horrendous, the direction for Rodan just doesn't work and poor Betsy Durkin sticks out like a sore thumb (not her fault).

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 08, 2010, 06:43:57 PM
The "sad plaid" suitcase in question:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1206ds_3.jpg)
1966: Ep #117 - Joe has discovered that Vicki's suitcase
is still there.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on December 09, 2010, 03:40:41 AM
i don't recall my whole commentary on the "sad plaid" suitcase but one poignant thing that comes to mind is that it was MONOGRAMMED.

i mean it's not like vicki went to louis vuitton and picked this up. so it's sort of bittersweet to think of her having this very cheap piece of luggage monogrammed with her initials. almost as if she was trying to prove to others,and to herself more importantly,that she did indeed have an identity. that she was someone.

another sad thought. that it was a gift to vicki from the foundling home's administration.

anyone trying to assess vicki's status via her worldly possessions(to paraphrase midnite "a handful of dresses,some ugly shoes",and this sad,cheap suitcase)would have an inaccurate view of her entirely.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on December 11, 2010, 10:06:42 PM
a few more words on the "sad plaid" suitcase and today's slideshow...

i read somewhere that budgets were so tight for the pilot episode that for the scene where vicki meets burke at the collinsport train station alexandra moltke and mitch ryan were asked to supply their own personal luggage. [santa_rolleyes]

in later years vicki tends to travel with the tiny blue suitcase that all the ingenue characters carry.

on to today's slideshow funny that during the leviathan episodes the writers acknowledged that david had indeed "grown up" and was a teenager only a few months later during the summer of 1970 storyline to have him revert to a "child" with a nanny and a playroom and a dollhouse. [santa_undecided]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Lydia on December 12, 2010, 04:20:14 PM
on to today's slideshow funny that during the leviathan episodes the writers acknowledged that david had indeed "grown up" and was a teenager only a few months later during the summer of 1970 storyline to have him revert to a "child" with a nanny and a playroom and a dollhouse.
I don't think that's quite fair.  David was the one who said he had grown up.  Nobody else said it.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on December 12, 2010, 06:24:55 PM
i'm sorry but i'm not really seeing your point lydia,

david was not a real person,just a character,and the actor playing him was just reading lines given to him by the writers. thus the writers had acknowledged that the character,and the actor,were growing up. yet in the next storyline he was written as a "child" again.

i'm not seeing what's "unfair" about my remarks.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on December 13, 2010, 06:12:15 AM
Today's 1795 episode slideshow is really diva-rich, with a classic scene involving Abigail, Natalie and Naomi--three of the strongest actresses in the series all together in one scene, and how beautifully this snapshot from that event captures the iconic energies of the moment.  And I do love the dramatic horror of the expressions on Grayson and Clarice's faces as they act out the shocking discovery of Vicki's charm bracelet.  Fabulous stuff.

Great shots of Clarice and Joan together in the drawing room in the 1966 episode, too.

Thanks, MB!

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Lydia on December 13, 2010, 12:09:28 PM
i'm not seeing what's "unfair" about my remarks.
I'm sorry I was unclear.  What I meant was: Just because David said he had grown up did not mean that in fact he had.  Kids always think they're more grown-up than they are.

Also - a couple of things that I didn't comment on in my previous post - there was no nanny, only a governess, which is a different thing, and Tad, when he was occupying David once, commented that he was getting too old for the playroom.  But again, that doesn't mean that he was.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on December 14, 2010, 12:01:00 AM
boy is today's slideshow loaded with moments to cherish and remember. great stuff from joan bennett from all four years.

gothick i knew you'd be impressed. love the scene with liz and mrs.johnson from 1966. i recently watched the scene with naomi,abigail and countess dupres and i'm always mesmerized by the virtuosity of that trinity. alexandra later joins joan,clarice and grayson in this episode and as lovely as she is she's totally outmatched by these thoroughbreds. she almost disappears.

of the scene during the quentin storyline one thing i love about that period is that after having handed the show over to adam and company for most of 1968 the core collins family reclaims their rightful place at the storyline's center. great stuff.

and really, what can one say about liz's leviathan dream? it defies accurate description. it truly must be seen to be believed. [santa_shocked]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on December 15, 2010, 06:36:37 AM
I remember the last time I watched it, I was able to kind of figure out an explication for Liz's Leviathan dream.  I can't recall now just what it was.  I wonder whether this was one of the instances where they were improvising on the spot... the only dream sequence I can recall that was creepier was the one from 1897 where Jamison dreamt that he was David in 1969 being given a fake birthday party because he was about to die or already dead.

Love today's shots of Diana Millay's big entrance in 1966.  This may be my favorite introduction of a new character.  Interesting how both Diana and Grayson played their first introductory scenes opposite KLS.

I always thought Laura's lunching hat was too offbeat for Ohrbach's; could it have been from Diana's own wardrobe?

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 15, 2010, 07:54:30 PM
Today's 1795 episode slideshow is really diva-rich, with a classic scene involving Abigail, Natalie and Naomi--three of the strongest actresses in the series all together in one scene

And here it is:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1212ds_4.jpg)
1967: Ep #382 - Natalie tries to persuade Naomi to question
Vicki about the recent events.

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And I do love the dramatic horror of the expressions on Grayson and Clarice's faces as they act out the shocking discovery of Vicki's charm bracelet.  Fabulous stuff.

I love that scene too.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1212ds_7.jpg)
1967: Ep #382 - Natalie and Abigail are shocked to discover
Vicki's bracelet with signs of the Zodiac and a charm of the
Devil himself.

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Great shots of Clarice and Joan together in the drawing room in the 1966 episode, too.

Classic Mrs. Johnson - always the optimist - not!  [lghy]

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1966: Ep #121 - Mrs. Johnson believes Matthew will get
what's coming to him, but fears how many he may take
with him.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on December 16, 2010, 05:26:02 AM
the "diva-rich" nature of this week's slideshow certainly continues with la millay's diner entrance as laura collins. one of my favorite character introductions too.

even before the whole pheonix thing got going i was hooked. diana's delivery was so odd i was just mesmerized by this strange woman and storyline.

as for the hat i suppose it could have been diana's own. note however how trim diana's suit is here and how increasingly blowsy her outfits get as the plot progresses. mostoller was certainly creative at disguising her "condition". [santa_wink]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on December 16, 2010, 05:42:00 AM
In tonight's show, I just love the look of prim, cat-like disapproval on the Countess's face as Vicki's "shocking" attire is being paraded for the Reverend's examination.  Such bluestockinged distaste is usually more the province of Miss Abigail Collins, but the Countess more than holds her own in this delicious little moment.

Isn't there a scene where Trask comes in while Natalie is reading her cards and thunders:  "the Devil's picture-book, madam!"  It's been a really long time since I watched this storyline...

There are some great shots from Leviathan too.  My favorite is when Julia gets in Barn's face about the discovery of Quentin and he tells her to stop wasting her time.  The look on Chris's countenance seems to say, "Whoa! skating on thin ice there with the good Doctor!"

I just love these shows...

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 16, 2010, 06:49:31 PM
boy is today's slideshow loaded with moments to cherish and remember. great stuff from joan bennett from all four years.

A couple that weren't featured in the previous post:

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1968: Ep #644 - Liz, Carolyn and Roger are startled as
Jamison's name begins to spell out on Carolyn's mirror.


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1969: Ep #904 - Liz takes the book away from David and
grounds him.

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and really, what can one say about liz's leviathan dream? it defies accurate description. it truly must be seen to be believed. [santa_shocked]

Indeed it must be seen to be believed!  [b003]

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1969: Ep #904 - Liz experiences one of the singlemost
bizarre dreams in DS history (if not ALL of entertainment
history)!
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 18, 2010, 07:30:18 PM
I remember the last time I watched it, I was able to kind of figure out an explication for Liz's Leviathan dream.  I can't recall now just what it was.

I wish you would have posted your explanation because I would have loved to have read it. Perhaps it will come back to you one day...

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Love today's shots of Diana Millay's big entrance in 1966.  This may be my favorite introduction of a new character.

Here they are:

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1966: Ep #123 - A mystery woman enters the coffeeshop,
and...


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1966: Ep #123 - ...Maggie learns that the woman is
'sort of' back for a visit.

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I always thought Laura's lunching hat was too offbeat for Ohrbach's; could it have been from Diana's own wardrobe?

The Ohrbach's slogan was "high fashion at low prices," so perhaps not. And while this is a bit OT, I've been regularly watching The Patty Duke Show in syndication recently and in its last year the clothes were provided by Ohrbach's, and you'd be surprised how sophisticated some of the clothes are. And we're talking basically the same period of time as Laura's entrance because TPDS' last season ran during the '65-'66 season.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 21, 2010, 07:17:57 PM
In tonight's show, I just love the look of prim, cat-like disapproval on the Countess's face as Vicki's "shocking" attire is being paraded for the Reverend's examination.  Such bluestockinged distaste is usually more the province of Miss Abigail Collins, but the Countess more than holds her own in this delicious little moment.

And here it is:

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1967: Ep #385 - Reverend Trask is scandalized by the
'indecent' clothing Vicki was wearing on her arrival.

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Isn't there a scene where Trask comes in while Natalie is reading her cards and thunders:  "the Devil's picture-book, madam!"  It's been a really long time since I watched this storyline...

In Ep #386, when Trask sees Natalie's Tarot cards and learns she uses them to predict the future, he refers to them as "the Devil's playthings." Of course, he also rambles on about how only God determines the future and how Natalie can't possibly be a religious woman - but Natalie soon puts him in his place.  [wink2]

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There are some great shots from Leviathan too.  My favorite is when Julia gets in Barn's face about the discovery of Quentin and he tells her to stop wasting her time.  The look on Chris's countenance seems to say, "Whoa! skating on thin ice there with the good Doctor!"

And here that is:

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1969: Ep #905 - Barnabas refuses to believe the man is
Quentin and feels Julia shouldn't be spending so much
energy on a quest that can only end in disappointment.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on December 23, 2010, 10:09:20 PM
You know I adore the shot of Julia and LeviaLiz in their pearls from 1969.  Grayson and Joan, THE Divas--what more fabulous Xmas glamour could one imagine?

I hope the Barn and Ange shippers get to see the shot of them together featured on the Current Talk page today.  It's one of the best shots of them together I have ever seen.  And it really conveys the tension of their relationship.

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 24, 2010, 08:35:54 PM
You know I adore the shot of Julia and LeviaLiz in their pearls from 1969.

And here it is:

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1969: Ep #910 - Liz tries to convince Julia that everything
Paul has been saying is fantasy.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on December 26, 2010, 02:57:06 PM
there was something super-chic...and super icy...about leviathan liz.

i'm recalling lots of little black dresses and gobs of jewelry.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Gothick on January 01, 2011, 12:18:01 AM
Haven't been able to check in here in awhile due to holiday travel.  It's always such a treat to see the latest delights on the Robservations slideshow.

I'll have to re-watch the episode (a good one, as I recall) where Liz and Roger invite Laura to live at Collinwood.  The dress Liz wore for that scene, as shown in today's snapshot, is blinding in its display of Chanel-inspired diva glamour.  Liz clearly was defining battle lines with Laura, even before the two had started with the raised eyebrows and defiant pouts.

Happy New Year to all!

G.
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: michael c on January 01, 2011, 07:30:45 PM
yes in later years the show becomes something of a boys club with jonathan frid and david selby dominating the proceedings but during the first year the female characters ruled the roost and that was never finer than during the laura collins storyline.

joan bennett and diana millay were perfectly matched. their scenes together will always stand out as series favorites to me.

i always thought it was funny that when vicki was trying to reach her friends from the past she did so by filling the closet with a bunch of sleeveless dresses. nothing could possibly speak victoria winters more. [santa_rolleyes]
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 02, 2011, 04:00:59 AM
I'll have to re-watch the episode (a good one, as I recall) where Liz and Roger invite Laura to live at Collinwood.  The dress Liz wore for that scene, as shown in today's snapshot, is blinding in its display of Chanel-inspired diva glamour.

Here it is:

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(And just in case anyone missed this notice in its own topic:
The Quotes Slideshow for the original DS has moved atop Page 1 of the Robservations board. And the Episode Captions Slideshow can now be found atop all the other pages of the Robservations board.
  [santa_smiley])

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Liz clearly was defining battle lines with Laura, even before the two had started with the raised eyebrows and defiant pouts.

I always got the impression that Liz was none too fond of Laura from day one of her relationship with Roger (perhaps even before then) and things just got worse after Laura returned.  But then, Liz always had excellent instincts about people...
Title: Re: Today's Robservations Slideshow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 02, 2011, 04:03:32 AM
joan bennett and diana millay were perfectly matched. their scenes together will always stand out

Indeed!  [santa_thumb]

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i always thought it was funny that when vicki was trying to reach her friends from the past she did so by filling the closet with a bunch of sleeveless dresses. nothing could possibly speak victoria winters more.

Absolutely!  [santa_cheesy]