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Title: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: Charles_Ellis on April 29, 2006, 10:20:53 PM
Check out this particular these items for sale- look like original ABC-TV tapes!  Does Jim Person or Dan Curtis Prods. know about this?
Are these videotapes from the studio being sold illegally?

Item #4872726818 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4872726818&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Fcgiurl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.com%252Fws%252F%26fkr%3D1%26from%3DR8%26satitle%3D4872726818%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1)
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: Charles_Ellis on April 29, 2006, 10:32:24 PM
If the above link doesn't work (how does one put a link here on this board?  Apparently we're not allowed to paste links in, and I had to type the whole damn thing by hand!), go to eBay, and look up item# 4872726818.
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: Midnite on April 30, 2006, 12:00:17 AM
Quote from: Charles_Ellis
If the above link doesn't work

It's working now.

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(how does one put a link here on this board? Apparently we're not allowed to paste links in, and I had to type the whole damn thing by hand!)

Right clicking has long been disabled here, Charles.  You paste using Edit/Paste in the dropdown menu, or the Windows shortcut Control+V.
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: arashi on April 30, 2006, 01:18:32 AM
I don't see how it would be illegal unless they were acquired by nefarious methods.
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: petofi on April 30, 2006, 06:10:52 PM
Don't think they are "original," as the description refers to syndication.  These were probably issued for local broadcast sometime after DS went in to syndication.  Obviously, they originated from ABC, but not during the original run.  1980s, maybe?

Petofi
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: joe integlia on April 30, 2006, 08:27:19 PM
the ad says,three are 1" and one is 2" videotape. well legal or not, good luck playing the 2" videotape! there are very few machines left in the united states and perhaps the world that still operate anymore. they dont make them anymore and no parts can be replaced either unless u take a part from another machine. the 1" videotapes can not be originals cause the originals are on 2" videotape.the 1" tapes are most likely from the 80s syndication days. even to playback 1" videotape u need to know someone in the broadcast industry and even these machines arent used much anymore. one final note, original 16mm kinescope episodes of dark shadows have been sold by film collectors for years. i think the legalities come into play when you make copies and then sell the copies.
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: joe integlia on April 30, 2006, 08:43:26 PM
in the description it says "revisited" on 1" reel. anybody know what that could be?
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: jennifer on May 11, 2006, 03:11:44 PM
i think you can sell anything on Ebay except your children(they don't know that though >:D) or body parts! :o
husbands maybe ;D

jennifer
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: Gothick on May 11, 2006, 03:31:54 PM
The note on #4 sounds as if these were tapes used in the 1980s WorldVision syndication.

[spoiler]I wonder whether this could have been the episode where Barnabas and Chris dig up a coffin containing a baby in the woods?  In one of the Edward Gross books there was an episode guide that mentioned that that episode had been skipped in WorldVision syndies in the Eighties.[/spoiler]

Interesting!

G.
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: BuzzH on May 11, 2006, 04:02:36 PM
i think you can sell anything on Ebay except your children(they don't know that though >:D) or body parts! :o
husbands maybe ;D

You can't sell animals, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: Midnite on May 11, 2006, 04:12:42 PM
i think you can sell anything on Ebay except your children(they don't know that though >:D) or body parts! :o
husbands maybe ;D
You can't sell animals, that's for sure.

Also, in most cases, alcohol, food, tobacco, credit cards, weapons and fireworks:

Prohibited and Restricted Items (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/items-ov.html)
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: jennifer on May 14, 2006, 12:59:48 AM
Thats weird Midnite i've seen a lot of those items on that list for sale

jennifer
notice husbands aren't on the list >:D
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: joe integlia on May 14, 2006, 01:11:19 AM
well i dont think u can sell anything on ebay. i found this out when i tried to sell some footage i shot of celebrities getting their stars on the walk of fame on hollywood blvd. these are public events and no restrictions on photography or videotaping. so i put a dvd containing several of these ceremonies up for auction. the item was removed by ebay! they claimed i was selling copyrighted material. i tried to explain that it was my own footage and no different from people selling celebrity photos but they didnt agree and refused to list this item. yet it is ok to list videotape episodes of copyrighted dark shadows episodes!
Title: Re: Possibly 'gray area' DS ebay item- it this legal?
Post by: jennifer on May 14, 2006, 01:28:24 AM
well i dont think u can sell anything on ebay. i found this out when i tried to sell some footage i shot of celebrities getting their stars on the walk of fame on hollywood blvd. these are public events and no restrictions on photography or videotaping. so i put a dvd containing several of these ceremonies up for auction. the item was removed by ebay! they claimed i was selling copyrighted material. i tried to explain that it was my own footage and no different from people selling celebrity photos but they didnt agree and refused to list this item. yet it is ok to list videotape episodes of copyrighted dark shadows episodes!
that does sound stupid Joe if they belonged to you i've seen some pretty ? things on Ebay too !yours sounded fine
sjennifer